Thread 17947296

Jews are displeasing to God and enemies of the whole human race.

Post Christ is Lord below if you love God, or
Post your best cope below if you serve the devil.

The verse you referenced reflects the tensions between Jews and Gentiles at the time. Pretty sure one of the main points of Christianity is to love all your sisters and brothers.

>>17947355
devil worshiper cope

>>17947296 (OP)
there is no difference between jews, christians, and muslims

>>17947296 (OP)
I can't wait to see you cry out in pain as יהוה eternally condemns you to burn in גיהנום for worshiping Rabbi ישוע instead of him alone. לא יהיה לך אלוהים אחרים על פני.

>>17947382
>jews
Talmudic Remphan-worshipers
>christians
Biblical Christ-worshipers
>muslims
Quranic Allah-worshipers

>>17947400
>Talmudic Remphan-worshipers
larping as hebrews
>Biblical Christ-worshipers
larping as hebrews
>Quranic Allah-worshipers
larping as hebrews

>>17947396
>worshiping
is not an original part of the religion created for the salvation of the people that are of God

>>17947296 (OP)


>>>/wsg/5957025

>>17947296 (OP)
>I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew.
>11 Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond recovery? Not at all!
>17 If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you.
>25 I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved.
>28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.
Romans 11

Christ is Lord!

>>17947296 (OP)
Christ is in a boiling pit of sewage right now.

>>17947396
You couldn't write the whole sentence in Hebrew, Hershel?

>>17947522
That passage doesn't mean that every person who lies and falsely claims to be an Israelite actually is one. It's specifically referring to the historical Jews of the Biblical era. It's not referring to those who falsely claim to be Jews now.

>>17947296 (OP)
>>17947489
Bot

>>17948115
>those who falsely claim to be Jews now.
If that's true, then Matthew 27:25 doesn't apply

>>17947522
>Israel
Jews aren't
Christians are

>>17948256
Paul clarifies in the very letter I have quoted that he is speaking about biological jews.
>I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin.
>I am talking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the apostle to the Gentiles, I take pride in my ministry 14 in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to envy and save some of them.
>If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 18 do not consider yourself to be superior to those other branches. If you do, consider this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you.
>After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!
>they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.

>>17948350
And? They are enemies of God is they do not hail the Son as Lord. They have forsaken their salvation and make war on the Lord of Heaven. Jews are worshipers of themselves, idolators and usurpers, murders and liars.

Those of them that are of God have the right to take a place in Christ if they hail the Son as Lord, but they do not and so have made themselves the enemies of all mankind.

>>17948402
>They are enemies of God if* they do not hail the Son as Lord.

And they are not all that are of God because they constitute only one branch of that tree. Jews would forsaken the wild growths and have it be, if they could, that they alone constitute the tree. That is why the jews murdered him, and so it is said that he died and defeated death for his people.

>>17948402
>And? They are enemies of God is they do not hail the Son as Lord. They have forsaken their salvation and make war on the Lord of Heaven.
Paul answers this in Romans 11, you should really open your Bible for once.
>I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in, 26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved. As it is written:
>“The deliverer will come from Zion;
>he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
>27 And this is[f] my covenant with them
>when I take away their sins.”[g]
>28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, 29 for God’s gifts and his call are irrevocable.
>>17948411
>That is why the jews murdered him, and so it is said that he died and defeated death for his people.
To be clear Jesus was murdered by the biblical jews. The modern jews according to you bear no relation to the biblical jews so they do not carry any culpability for that according to Matthew 27:25.

>>17948702
Paul there is just saying jews have the right to take a place in Christ if they hail the Son as Lord, but they don't.

Modern jews who claim to be blood line descendants of Abrahm are liable to this day for the murder of Jesus. That was their demand, to have their descendants bear the responsibility.

>>17948808
>Modern jews who claim to be blood line descendants of Abrahm are liable to this day for the murder of Jesus.
If you don't believe they are then they cannot be culpable.

>>17947296 (OP)
The entire book of Romans refutes your position that the New Testamemt is anti-semetic.

>>17948820
If they claim to be jews then they are guilty of murdering Jesus.

>>17948824
Obviously not, since the persecution of jews was the normal Christian thing to do for most of the last 2k years.

>>17948848
No, they are not the descendants of those in Matthew 27:25

>>17948855
So you agree that being anti-zionist is jewish persecution?

>>17947382
You're a cringe paganlarper atheistcuck, Christianity is the soul of the European realms.

>>17948875
>So you agree that
No.

>>17948871
>they are not the descendants of those
Then they have no claim upon being those to whom the first covenant applied and are, as the Bible teaches regarding jews, the synagogue of Satan.

Modern jews literally are the direct descendants of the Israelite in the Bible. You retards don't know genetics.

test

>>17949015
>Modern jews literally are the direct descendants of the Israelite in the Bible.
Bullshit. Most are various western Europeans practicing jew religion while having no or negligible blood relationship to those with whom the first covenant was made.

>>17949015
Palestinians share about 60% Israelite DNA, while Ashkenazi have on average 30 something percent. You don't know genetics.

>>17949020
No, its not
>>17949025
I have a masters in the field. Protip, shit for brains: having one third of your DNA being from some ancestral population means you're a direct descendant of that population. That another population is ALSO a descendant population is not a contradiction. There can be multiple descendants with different levels of admixture, dumbass.

>>17949033
Post your name, drivers license and a picture of your degree or stfu about your so called expertise.

As I said, most "jews" are various western Europeans who practice jew religion but have no or negligible blood relation to the first covenant people.

>>17949039
>doxx yourself
No. Your claim that modern Ashkenazi have no relation is objectively false. Also the bible is not the word of God and there is no "first covenant". We're talking about actual populations here, not your jewish fairytales.

>>17949043
>Your claim that
That isn't what I claimed. Argue against me, not your strawman.

>>17949047
The claim that jews are not related to the ancient Israelites is false. The claim that the Bible is the word of God is false.

>>17949050
>The claim that jews are not related to the ancient Israelites is false
That wasn't what I "claimed"
Can you even argue honestly, or must you be always deceitful in all things?

>>17949057
My post was this >>17949015. It was not directed to anyone in particular, it was simply pointing out the fact that the lie that "modern jews have no relation to the Israelites" that's being posted in this thread is false. Then you and the other guy claimed I'm wrong,but I'm not.
The modern jews are direct descendants of the Israelites. So are modern Palestinians. Modern Palestinians have more admixture than modern European Ashkenazi jews,but they are both descendant populations. What about this is confusing?
Nothing I'm posting is "deceitful" or difficult to understand.

>>17949075
Some "jews" are partly blood related to the people to whom the first covenant applied. That is the only honest statement about the subject which anyone can make.

>>17949085
No, having a third of your DNA being descendant of a population is a direct descendants. Your dogshit white nationalist cope nonsense has nothing to do with reality.

>>17949075
>>17949085
But I'd say if they aren't pure blood of the first covenant people then they are not "jews" because they broke the covenant by polluting their blood.

>>17949095
The first covenant isn't real. It's a myth. The God of the Bible isn't real. Your religion is not true and is not the lens to analyze reality through. Jesus never rose and is never coming back.
We're talking about actual population genetics here, not jewish fairytales.

>>17949093
>a third
Not even remotely close enough to the threshold required to expect fulfillment of the first covenant.

>>17949097
Stfu Mr. "Race isn't real" your bitch ass says that crappie constantly but out the other side of your mouth you prop up the idea that "jews" is a completely legitimate classification. Don't even bother denying it either, you'll only embaress yourself.

>>17948992
Then what does that Pope's statement have to do with christian persecution of jews?
>>17948994
You don't need to be born jewish to become jewish

>>17949098
>7 Do not despise an Edomite, for the Edomites are related to you. Do not despise an Egyptian, because you resided as foreigners in their country. 8 The third generation of children born to them may enter the assembly of the Lord.

>>17949098
"Forbidden marriage" here means born illegitimately, not from a different ethnicity.

>>17949098
>>17949293

>>17949298
You think God didnt make the deal with only one tribe? And that that tribe isn't defined by blood purity?

Lol
Lmfao even

>>17949306
see >>17949293
It is made with one tribe but it isn't based on "blood purity" in the white supremacist sense because people can convert to judaism to join the tribe.

>>17949314
>people can convert to judaism
Laughable nonsense and inpermissible under the terms of the first covenant.

>>17949321
It's permissible in the very chapter of Deuteronomy you posted and it is the subject matter of the entire Book of Ruth.

>>17948350
>Paul clarifies in the very letter I have quoted that he is speaking about biological jews.
The issue is that the people claiming to be that today aren't actually related. Paul was talking about the Jews of his day.

>>17948702
>The modern jews according to you bear no relation to the biblical jews so they do not carry any culpability for that according to Matthew 27:25.
According to the New Testament, Jesus Christ died for all sins.

>>17949499
Ok? What does that have to do with anything retard?

>>17948820
>If you don't believe they are then they cannot be culpable.
They will be judged based on what they say. Just like the Amalekite who claimed to have killed Saul in 2 Samuel 1.

"And David said unto him, Thy blood be upon thy head; for thy mouth hath testified against thee, saying, I have slain the LORD's anointed."
(2 Samuel 1:16)

>>17948848
Right, that's exactly what the biblical position is. They will be judged based on the fact that they want to be a person who killed Christ. Jesus often told people they would be judged based on the words they themselves say.

"But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned."
- Matthew 12:36-37

>>17949506
Jews don't believe that they killed Jesus. That's something your book says, not theirs.

>>17949050
>The claim that jews are not related to the ancient Israelites is false. The claim that the Bible is the word of God is false.
You're making this easy. The Bible is the word of God, and it says that the synagogue of satan consists of those who claim to be Jews, and are not. It's right there for anyone to read. It's been there for almost 2000 years.

"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."
- Revelation 2:9

>>17949513
>They will be judged based on the fact that they want to be a person who killed Christ.
No jew has said this. Most either don't believe he was real or if he was that he wasn't the messiah.

>>17949524
>"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."
>- Revelation 2:9
That's a reference to the Black Hebrew Israelites

>>17949517
Thou shalt not lie, jew. So if they say they are the murderers of Jesus then they are damned as that, or damned as Law breakers for lying. Either way, all jews are henceforth judged deserving to be put bodily into the fire until dead.

>>17949532
They haven't been around that long.

>>17949534
You do know that the Jews don't accept the New Testament as scripture right? So they don't accept the claim that they killed Jesus. That's not a lie because no one is alive today who is responsible for killing Jesus. Your book says that supposedly the killers said the blood be on our children but then you claim that the jews of today are not those people's descendants. By your logic, they carry no culpability.

>>17949535
Revelation is about the future

>>17949539
See >>17949506
>>17949513

>>17949547
Both points have already been addressed. No jew alive witnessed the killing of jesus so is not lying when don't claim that they killed him. They don't accept the New Testament as scripture so they don't claim its telling of events as accurate.

>>17949553
They want to identify as Jews specifically because they hate Christ. That's the ultimate reason. Otherwise, they would be Christians.

>>17949558
Most jews, like most people in any religion, are born into the faith of their parents.

>>17949564
In Israel, they have banned the '+' symbol and a requirement to become a citizen there is specifically to not be a Christian. While some people convert, you will often hear those who identify as Jews act bewildered if you try to tell them about Jesus, because they assume you are supposed to implicitly understand that they choose to identify as Jews precisely because they reject Jesus Christ.

>>17949570
Yes this may come as a surprise to you, but most people don't want to convert to a foreign religion and prefer to practice the religion of their parents and community.

>>17949580
That just means they're in a cult and if they care about the truth they will find a way out of it, just like those who had parents who were JW or Mormon.

"Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice."
- John 18:37

>>17949594
God created JWs and Mormons so that Christians would feel the way Jews feel about their proselytizing

>>17949604
More like it's a fulfillment of this:

"Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;"
- 2 Timothy 3:12-14

>>17949610
>Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
But you are the one arguing for persecuting jews.
>But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
Applies to selling indulgences, blood libel, the crusades, the inquisition, pogroms, televangelism, all done by Christians in the name of Christ.

>>17949624
>But you are the one arguing for persecuting jews.
Am I become your enemy because I tell you the truth?

>>17949626
No you are an enemy for advocating hatred and violence on your fellow man

>>17949631
It's true that I may have wanted to see violence occur for various reasons in the past, and I won't create excuses for it. But I have prayed to God for forgiveness and I know it's been forgiven.

"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness."
- 1 John 1:9

>>17949653
You have currently come in to the defense of an OP that says:
>burn jewish schools
>raze jewish homes
>kill jews on public roads and
>force jews into manual labor
You support demonic speech and then act appalled when those you are threatening with acts of cartoonishly evil violence don't want to convert to your religion.
>15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

>>17949662
Those people only identify as Jews though, they aren't actually Jews. That is what I have been saying.

>burn jewish schools
>raze jewish homes
>kill jews on public roads and
>force jews into manual labor
That's OP quoting from Martin Luther. If he thought those people were actual Jews, he was wrong. That's what makes me think OP has fallen into the same mistake. Already subverted by that false idea before he could even come to a single conclusion.

>>17949674
If you don't see that as satanic you are totally lost and completely reprobate.

>>17949683
It's nonsensical because the supposed target of the violence doesn't exist.

>>17949687
Yes it does. Martin Luther was targeting the people identified as jews in his time, not the jews of a book. OP is targeting the jews of today, even if you don't acknowledge them as descendants of the biblical jews.

>>17949539
>You do know that the Jews don't accept the New Testament as scripture right?
Irrelevant. Jews are bound by the Law of Mosses and are not permitted to lie or else they are to be killed. Jews are also guilty of murdering Jesus, so if they identify as jews then they are guilty of murder and also deserve for that reason to be killed according to the Law of Mosses.

>>17949709
Right but they don't accept the New Testament is true so they don't identify with having done any of those things.

>>17949713
All jews are guilty of trying to murder God. That is the purpose of Talmud jew religion, so any who identifies as a jew is guilty of murder and deserves to be killed according to the Law of Mosses.

>>17949694
Look anon, I've done all I can to show you how this is one big delusion. On your part and many others. It led to catastrophes like WW2. This can be traced back to the delusions of Moses Hess, who later influenced Nietszche and the whole "ubermench" movement that came afterward. I've done what I can to provide the truth to someone who might have a 1% chance of listening. The basic thrust of what I'm saying is, it's time to wake up. That's all I can do.

"Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise man, and he will love thee.
Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be yet wiser: teach a just man, and he will increase in learning.
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding."
- Proverbs 9:8-10

>>17949789
I think atrocities like the Holocaust were caused by murderous psychopaths like >>17949720
and not because of some confusion about the lineage of modern jews

>>17949836
Both things are interrelated and caused by satan, which is the originator of the deception.

"Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not."
- John 8:43-45

>>17949847
Thank you for admitting christian antisemites are satanic.

>>17949847
>jews are the lying spawn of the devil
Jesus was correct there

>>17949850
You mean these guys, anon?

>>17949853
I think the biggest condemnation is where it says they are even lying about what they are, in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9. That's usually the first lie they tell: "I am a Jew" or "As a Jew, I think [etc.]" Actually they have nothing to do with the ancient people group called Jews in the Bible.

>>17949854
>whataboutism
>>17949866
Then they are not culpable for killing jesus since they had nothing to do with it

>>17949876
If someone wants to claim to be a jew then they can die according to the condemnation placed upon all who claim to be jews.

>>17949876
>whataboutism
Dude, the so-called "antisemites" you are referring to with the "Holocaust" were funded by zionists and they were willing participants in the Haavara agreement. They were a tool for opposing the other faction of Bolsheviks. They were subverted by the same exact false ideology from the very start. That's why none of them ever questions whether these people even are Jews. They just blindly accept it, because they too have been subverted. I've been saying, that's really tragic. Mentally speaking, many of them never even got out of that box.

>Then they are not culpable for killing jesus since they had nothing to do with it
See the earlier replies where 2 Samuel and Matthew 12 were quoted.

>>17949879
That's in the afterlife, not persecution in life
>>17949897
So because 2 jews are culpable in the genocide, that absolves every nazi who participated, got it. You are purely bad faith, therefore you are operating under satan.

>>17949920
>So because 2 jews are culpable in the genocide, that absolves every nazi who participated, got it.
It means they're the same. And the two guys who claimed to be Jews actually weren't.