Thread 17948659

If Jesus claimed to be God (John 10:30) and God inseminated the Virgin Mary (Matthew 1:18) then that means Jesus impregnated his own mother to give birth to himself in an act of magical incest. Disgusting.

>>17948659 (OP)
Hercules is just as much God as his father Zues. They are of the same essence, God, of which there is only one.

>>17948659 (OP)
It was the Holy Spirit who conceived Jesus. They are two different persons of the same God.

>>17948661
Hercules was a demi-god and Zeus was a demon. Their essences were created, unlike God.

>>17948670
>Zeus was a demon. Their essences were created, unlike God.
Retarded gibberish.

>>17948670
Nowhere in the Bible does it say that Jesus is separate from the Father / Holy Spirit, that's a later narrative invention to obfuscate the incestuous connotations of his birth. What the Bible ACTUALLY says is:
John 10:30
>I and the Father are ONE

God didnt "inseminate" his own mother. This is part of a wider discussion that also needs to explain the nature of the Trinity. The God-head (The Father) is not the same as the Son but they share the same essence. Along with the Holy Spirit, they all shared in the Miracle of the Virgin Conception of Jesus Christ. In catholic and orthodox dogmas this is defined as a Holy Mistery, meaning it cant be explained or comprehended by human mind. But since this was a virgin conception its only normal that God didnt do any human biological insemination. I havent read anything further on this subject except what i already said, which is common knowledge in theology.

So, to summarize, No - Jesus didnt inseminate his own Mother, he existed before time, same as the Father and the Holy Spirit. God chose Mary as a holy vessel to send his Son into the world for our salvation. The said conception was fully holy and didnt imply any human reproductory stages. It was God the Father who chose Mary. Jesus (the Son) did his Father's will and accepted his mission as saviour of Mankind.

>>17948686
consubstantial with the father

>>17948699
John 10:30
>I and the Father are ONE
Your interpretation is complete headcanon

>>17948686
Jesus says "I am going to my Father and your Father". The sentence is not only meaningless if they're non-separate, it implicates the Apostles in this confusion of identities since the relation "my" and "your" are logically the same.
>>I and the Father are ONE
Of course. One God. Different persons.

>>17948714
What you're describing is polytheism

>>17948725
>>One God
>polytheism
I honestly doubt it.

>>17948731
One God with two distinct persons isn't one God, it's a bipartite Deity and therefore its worship is absolutely polytheism. That's not actually Biblical canon though.

>>17948743
You might be surprised to find there are three persons (hence Tri-nity): the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Three entities sharing one name, as Christ himself:
> ...baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit" (Matthew 28:19)

Anyway, you might argue that the term 'god' or 'God' always refers to one single consciousness or person, which is a popular objection rooted nowhere in the Bible. But as far as the amount of Gods, there is one, hence it's not polytheism.

>>17948659 (OP)
well mooooslimes fuck goats so there is that

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>top kek

smells awfully mythological in here

Anthropomorphizing the "mother" has been the worst mistake that we haven't recovered from in the past couple of millennia

Just think for a second about how silly the concept of "Mary" is and how her self-importance has caused so much damage. The holy spirit could just get in the body of a man the same way it could in the body of the woman.
Its not possible for a spirit to "inseminate" a vagina when a spirit is only compatible with the brain waves.
Have you people even thought about the process in a quantum, metaphysical way? Most of the time this shit is metaphorical. Hint: think about a hard drive.

>>17948709
>>17948686

Stop playing stupid Satan's servant. Jesus and the father are one in essence not in personhood. And infinitely more complex being that exists beyond space time and matter is not bound to the rules he himself created to our world, so one being being 3 persons is not in anyway and crazy thought to have

Luke 3, 21-22
>> When all the people were being baptized, Jesus was baptized too. And as he was praying, heaven was opened and the Holy Spirit descended on him in bodily form like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.”

Mark 1, 9-11

>> At that time Jesus came from Nazareth in Galilee and was baptized by John in the Jordan. Just as Jesus was coming up out of the water, he saw heaven being torn open and the Spirit descending on him like a dove. And a voice came from heaven: “You are my Son, whom I love; with you I am well pleased.”

>>17950192
Either Jesus is talking to himself or he was being metaphorical in John 10:30 and wasn't actually claiming to be equal to God or Christians are just closet polytheists but either way the incestuous implications of the Virgin Mary are still very palpable.

>>17951026
In any case there is more evidence of Jesus being in an incestual relationship with the Father, whom he joins back with, like Mithras and Sol Invictus.