Thread 17950133

How is this even possible?

Just the boredom alone of having absolutely no stuff or things to interact with or think about, would kill me and most people on earth.

What is the reason for this?

>not even writing
why blatantly like like this

Are you stupid? Fuck off

Uh, are you sure? Ethiopians had most of the prerequisites for what we’d call a civilization—writing, governance, tools, trade, and religion. It might not have been as impressive or advanced as other civilizations like the Chinese, Indian, Byzantine, or Persian, but it was still a long-lasting, functioning society."

>>17950166
Yes, ethiopians were civilized, but the OP says "inventions".
I would say that subsaharians did discovered the iron metalurgy independiently in central africa

>>17950172
Zero proof of this at all. Just more globohomo "theorizing" and laughably dubious "evidence". The funny part is that the more "advanced" they try to make the Nogs seem in Antiquity, the less advanced they appear as a result. After all, if dhey invented iron n'sheiiit, why are they still in mud huts thousands of years later? Better to just say there was nothing going on in the first place. At least then they can't be blamed for having literally zero "progress" despite other peoples doing so under the same conditions.

"Ethiopians" may be below this arbitrary line, but they are not "Sub-Saharan, Black Africans" and never have been.

>>17950133 (OP)
Invention jerking contests are retarded though. More so when pretty much everything today is pretty much not really owned or made by any group.

>>17950256
>they are not "Sub-Saharan, Black Africans" and never have been.
Lmao. Your whole post reek of schizo slop.

>>17950256
There is proof.
Radiocarbon dating studies have revealed some of the iron articles found in central africa and Niger date back to the 3000 b.c.

>>17950267
You do know you can sage your posts right?

Blacks will always think in term of sex. You cant invent things if you’re always trying to please women.
Theres that carver guy i bet he was a volcel and i do find it interesting cause peanuts really are dirt cheap so idk why thet didnt take off.

>>17950275
>Blacks will always think in term of sex. You cant invent things if you’re always trying to please women.
You are creepy. Don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.

>>17950256
>After all, if dhey invented iron n'sheiiit, why are they still in mud huts thousands of years later?
This isn't a fucking paradox game where you advance step by step gaining technology mana points over time. By this logic, you'd assume that China would've been ahead in gun technology since they invented that before the Europeans.

>>17950256
>"Ethiopians" may be below this arbitrary line, but they are not "Sub-Saharan, Black Africans" and never have been.
calling pic related anything else but a "black african" is the biggest /pol/ tier cope I have ever seen.

>>17950133 (OP)
The answer is because nobody lived there. I'm being 100 percent serious. For most of human history, Africa was very sparsely populated compared to Asia and Europe

Also, Native Americans north of Mesoamerica didn't do much in the way of inventions or written language either, so you're holding blacks to a double standard in this regard.

>>17950461
And it still is to this day. It's weird seeing people think it has a lot of people yet fail to realize if it had the same matching densities as Asia or Europe provided we cut the Sahara out it would be way way way more numerous.

>>17950256
>"Ethiopians" may be below this arbitrary line, but they are not "Sub-Saharan, Black Africans" and never have been.
In ancient times, some Arabians crossed over into the horn of Africa, where Eritrea and Ethiopia are today. You can still see some inscriptions with Old South Arabian language carved on it.

Later, Sub-saharans largely drove out these Arabian colonies by, as it would seem, chimping out at them. Nowadays these areas are largely negro as a result.

>>17950461
The real answer is that anon is bullshitting.
agriculture, stoneworking, metalworking, complex governance, construction, trade, sea-faring, astronomy, math, and in a certain regions written language were already developed in Sub Saharan Africa across millennia and most of these technologies developed independently.

Yes sparse populations, along with disease, climate, isolation, lack of domesticable animals, jungles, deserts etc. etc. prevented certain developments from appearing at certain points in certain regions. But SSA was never developmentally "stagnant" in its totality.

>>17950465
Did you rip this off from some super dated text?

>>17950261
I owned everyone in one post, didn't I? :)

Just facts. Ethiopians are 1/2 "Arab" and have always been noticeably distinct from "Black Africans". You're grasping, which proves just how correct I really am, doesn't it?

>>17950267

Studies don't "reveal" anything, but even if they did, it's all the more pathetic that they "discovered" something as useful as iron, only to do nothing of value with it for thousands of years. Again, it only makes them look worse. Not better.

>>17950280
Yes, China should've been well ahead of the West, but they too are genetically inferior and devoid of creativity or engineering insight. Name one Chinese invention in your life today.....or song......or novel......or play......or poem......or anything other than fake "Chinese Food(tm)".

See, there's literally nothing. Kind of amazing that 1 billion people could accomplish so little in 5,000 years. Hell, they even get all of their religions from the Jeets, ffs.

>>17950455
"I am a Caucasian." -Emperor Hailee Silasee

Go look at their own sacred art, and you'll see they depict themselves as being very light, indeed. Just like the Vedic Elites.

>>17950465
Correct. The Slave trade in the region is older than History and there has always been lots of geneflow back and forth, until the "Modern Era".

Certainly, all of the "elite" in Ethiopia have been quite light for thousands of years, as can be seen in their own art and architecture. There are many "Ethiopians" in the Bible and Greek Myths, as well, but the term was a bit nebulous and just sort of meant anything South of Egypt, which is why they're confused with Nilotic types, such as the Sudanese, who are the "blackest" people on Earth.

>>17950468
>Yes sparse populations, along with disease, climate, isolation, lack of domesticable animals, jungles, deserts etc. etc. prevented certain developments from appearing
I can play this same game too, anon.

Listed below are a multitude of reasons why the lower 48 states are impossible to develop technologically:

>1. Isolation & Access
- Nevadan & Texan Desert blocks East-West connection
- Deep South coasts lack natural harbors
-NorthEastern Rivers blocked by rapids/waterfalls.

>2. Triple Transport Trap
- No deep-South water ports
- Few ocean-navigable rivers
- Most landlocked states globally (27)

>3. Disease & Agriculture
- Only continent fully spanning subtropics
- CowPox & Bird flu prevents livestock use
- Limited, fragmented farmland in Western half of America due to 40+ year drought

>4. Resource Paradox
- World's richest mineral (Lithium, Aluminum, Iron, Copper) deposits hidden deep inside national parks.
- Highest extraction and transportation costs locally
- Geography prevents efficient resource use

This creates a devastating cycle: Rich resources can't efficiently reach global markets compared to Saudi Arabia & China, thus limiting development in the Rust belt, which in turn prevents infrastructure improvements that could overcome geographic barriers.

Therefore, in theory the "lower 48" states should be equally as impoverished as Africa is, given that we can find the exact same kinds of geographical challenges.

>>17950468
>But SSA was never developmentally "stagnant" in its totality.

You can smell the COPE from here. Ok, show us all the "advancements" they made in that time. Go ahead. Show us :)

"N-n-n-no, really! They did a lot.....I-I-I can't really show you, but just t-t-t-take my word for it o-o-o-ok?"

>>17950491
Technology is built off of incentives, not random ingenuity. All that reflects is just that the societies in Sub-Saharan Africa weren't organized particularly in a way where it would incentivize all the technologies that came about in empire-building cultures like Europe or China, for whatever reason.
>>17950498
Dumbass. We know why China didn't keep up with gun technology. It was due to lack of incentives in developing gun technology. Traditional Chinese style of forts were impervious to early cannons, while the European castles were particularly vulnerable to them, prompting the European to innovate on fort technology which led to an arms race between fort and cannon technology thus leading to better gun technology in general.

>>17950512
>Certainly, all of the "elite" in Ethiopia have been quite light for thousands of years
Lmao how deranged are you?

>>17950513
>>17950517
Why are you like this? Did someone cuck you or accidentally hurt your ego and you lash out like this?

>>17950498
I can name romance of the three kingdoms from the top of my head for novels. But I cant read or speak Chinese so it doesnt make sense that I should know any other cultural artifacts. The only reason none english speakers know about anglophone culture is either because of the internet or colonization, two things the Chinese didnt care for throughout their history.

lol I already debunked this pic rel a long time ago lol try baiting a bit harder next time lmao

>>17950487
Weird seeing chuds suck Arab cock this hard whenever they can use it as a platform to be racist towards other groups.

>>17950498
>Name one Chinese invention in your life today
Paper

>>17950468
> we wuz kangs

>>17950766
>poor and primitve
Cape Dutch stole Khoi cattle, Khoi and San land, nearly killed them after two wars, and enslaved and/or them.

>>17950776
How many roads did Khoi and San land have?
How many brick houses or hospitals did the Khoi have?

>>17950781
Totally ignoring the whole "we tried to kill you off and decided to enslave you and then later after abolishment keep you as bounded labourers with no real hope to escape".

>>17950788
African countries throughout history tried to kill off and enslave their neighbours, keeping prisoners of war as bounded laborers.
Why did they never manage to colonize Europe and enslave them? Clearly they had it in them as they enslaved their neighbors. Why didn't they manage to enslave Europeans?

>>17950790
And you still are avoiding the point because the Khoi and San did not have slavery in their lands, hell large swathes of Southern Africa mostly did not have.

>Why did they never manage to colonize Europe and enslave them? Clearly they had it in them as they enslaved their neighbors. Why didn't they manage to enslave Europeans?
You are psychotic.

>>17950517
>Ok, show us all the "advancements" they made in that time.
I just told you a broad summary of them.

There's also glassware from Aksum and Kush, The West African manuscripts from Timbuktu, swahilian dhow ships, great zimbabwe, the ethopian obelisks, the nubian pyramids etc.

Google is free retard.

>>17950513
Are you comparing the industrialized independent United States to pre colonial africa or pre colonial US to pre colonial Africa?

If its the latter than yeah, that works. Explains why the Natives lacked certain Eurasian developments same with large parts of SSA.

If its the former your a retard.
And I never said "impossible to develop technologically"

>>17950491
>but even if they did, it's all the more pathetic that they "discovered" something as useful as iron, only to do nothing of value with it for thousands of years.
By useful you mean like tools and weapons? something that has circulated in SSA since the Bantu Expansion?

>>17950267
Correlates with the introduction of r1b in the same region btw

why are there so many threads about ssa's

>>17950849
Because blacks are the most relevant race in the world, similar to why there are so many threads about Jews, because Jews are the most powerful race in the world

>>17950857
how are blacks relevant in any way?

>>17950863
Because they live in your head rent free 24/7

>>17950865
please answer my question

Entire thread is useless babble. their average IQ is 65. They are lteraly retarded, by definition.

>>17950887
You got btfo, stop seething about it so much.

>>17950891
brother I just got here. sybau brownskin

>>17950133 (OP)
Metallurgy. Agriculture. Art. Probably the wheel and a ton of other Neolithic shit.

>>17950893
>Using Black slang while hating blacks
You pale cucks are embarassing

>>17950166
Ethiopia was settled by Arabs.

>>17950503
Hailee Silasee founded the Pan Africanist league the times he went to the US he visited community black leaders in Harlem and DC....

>>17950133 (OP)
they didn't even care about their supossed "" kingdoms" to record them in writen format,or any format at all, which really shows how lazy and just frankly non interested in their own stuff were.

>>17950487
It's less than that any data saying Ethiopians or Eritreans are half Eurasian is counting Ancient North African as Eurasian when really their Black Africans and Natufian were a quarter negroid in itself, They're most likely only 25 percent Eurasian in total

The West is used to sensory overload. Africans enjoy the peaceful life.

>>17951124
>record them in writen format,or any format at all
But they were noted in oral lore and many areas with writing did document things.

>>17950984
Magic teleporting Ayrabs!!!

>>17950816
All made post-contact. They have ZERO indigenous "technology" or metallurgy of any kind. Try harder, Homie.

>>17950911
...so you're listing everything they never created. Very useful. Got it.

Plenty of folks did great, cool things despite "only being in the Stone Age". Just look at the cities and structures in the Amazon and all over South America, Asia, etc.....Starting in the Stone Age isn't the issue, it's staying there forever that's the problem. They're simply incapable of any meaningful level of complexity in the same way a penguin is incapable of soaring like an eagle. Sure, they're "both birds", but pretty much in name only and while they can both eat fish, only one has every conquered the heavens ;)

Go look at the cultures that have used the Eagle as their sigil. You might find a high correlation with technological advancement throughout all of History. Go check.

>>17951113
........and he owned hundreds of Black slaves.....like any good "Caucasian" of fellow African noble of his time, or the Present.

You lose again ;)

>>17951147

You're only capable of extremely, simplistic, literal thinking, aren't you?

They ain't "Black". They ain't "Bantu". They ain't "Nilotic". They ain't "Bushmen". They ain't "Zulu", etc....etc.....

Ethiopians are Ethiopians. They've ALWAYS been their own people dating back to deepest Antiquity. Even their "fellow Blacks" consider them to be "not really Black" often times.

>>17950812
>Are you comparing the industrialized independent United States to pre colonial africa or pre colonial US to pre colonial Africa?
Neither, false dichotomy. If the geography of Africa is holding it back in impoverishment and stagnation today, right now - preventing postcolonial Africa, with the modern benefits of technology available now, from becoming Wakanda, as commonly taught due to its resource paradox/curse - the same geographic determinism must also be valid elsewhere.

Explanation: The lower 48 states are riddled with geographic barriers, including the Rocky Mountains, Appalachian Mountains, and the Great Plains in the midwest. These create natural divisions that isolate the communities separated by them. The Mississippi River is prone to flooding and unpredictable currents. These mountains and other barriers act as a permanent roadblock to any integration between far-flung communities separated by them. This makes it impossible for these communities to share resources or innovations.

The humid climate of the Southeast fosters diseases like yellow fever, discouraging urbanization in affected areas. Lyme disease and Rocky Mountain spotted fever are spread by ticks in the Great Plains region. In the Midwest, powerful blizzards and windstorms isolate rural communities, which is worsened by the dustbowl effect which can result in famine conditions.

The existence of oil in Texas and coal in Appalachia creates a resource curse, wherein economies depend on extraction. The discovery of oil in Texas and gold in California creates regional rivalries, trapping inhabitants into a fight over finite wealth that spirals into generational conflicts and "brush wars." The battle for control over these rich resources creates a neverending cycle of conflict, further compounding impoverishment and worsening corruption and economic stagnation. The abundance of resources only serves to fuel localized conflict, creating a serious roadblock to development.

>>17950166
Ethiopians are just black skinned white people.

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>>17952876
Dear God, you really are mentally unhinged.

>>17952919
>Dear God, you really are mentally unhinged.

>Heh, good one me, now I really beat them, factually and maturely.

>>17950138
OP is illiterate chuddie.

>>17950133 (OP)
Africans domesticated Sorghum, Okra, and Coffee. I'd hardly call that nothing.

>>17952747
So Ethiopians iz white? Alright. Let's send a million of them to your country

>>17952919
Schlomo admits defeat again......every. Single . Time.

Blacks didnt even have spoken language before white contact. Blacks used hand gestures, clicks and whistles to communicate.

>>17950455
>calling pic related anything else but a "black african" is the biggest /pol/ tier cope I have ever seen.
Hamitic =/= Bantu. Bantus are your arch type sub Saharan Africans who invented little or nothing.

>>17952747
>He owned hundreds of black salves
Like any other African noble man in the same era ????

There were habesha slaves also what does that prove nigga

>>17953768
The only people that use clicks in their native languages are the Khoisan people of Southwest Africa and the only people who use only whistles in their native language are the Silbo of the Canary Islands. While both are technically in Africa, neither are really considered black.

>>17952750
>Ethiopians are Ethiopians
Ethiopians never identified as "Ethiopian" or even "Habesha" until a few decades ago,

The term Ethiopian is the ancient Greek word for "black" if they aren't black than why would they rename themselves the "land of burnt faces"

>Nothing has ever been invented within the green area of this continent
Stone tools were invented and fire was discovered in Africa tho.

>>17950138
Retard.

>>17953993
>fire was discovered in Africa
Doubtful. They have no need for fire in Africa.

>>17950863
they're the pets of white people

>habeshas aren't black
We are, but the word habesha today is used a bit too widely, when I say Habesha I mean ethio-semetic IE Tigre, Tigrayans+Biher, Amharas etc. Everyone else aren't. Semetic has been thought to be spoken in the area since 2000 B.C so the idea that ARABS migrated into the place when they didn't even exist is a bit disingenuous. Also said "arabians" weren't really lightskinned but rather brown, look into the extinct south-arabian languages and their folks they look like southern indians lol.
The name ETHIOPIA came after the Kingdom of Aksum conquered Nubia and larped as them due to their historical significance, it's a larp. And people in the countries of Ethiopia/Eritrea that are habesha even cushites regularly call themselves "red" not black, and thinking in racial terms is a bit stupid since we're looking from a western(or at least westernized) perspective. No such thing as a 'black race'. But we are "black", sure.

>>17953984
>neither are really considered black.
Technically they are black but Apartheid system had weird clauses in them. Khoi were considered "coloured" because they were so dominated by the Afrikaners that many were under their cultural umbrella. They were treated the same way they treated the Bantu groups in SA were treated because "coloured" in of itself was a multi-tiered category.

>>17953773
>Bantus are your arch type sub Saharan Africans who invented little or nothing.
They did create their own things.

>your arch type sub Saharan Africans who invented little or nothing.
Why do you think even think they are the "Archetype"? Christ, the sheer number of brown and brown LatAm chuds flooding 4chan is massive.

>>17954002
in that case how come most of the map isn't also highlighted in ops pic

>>17954770
Because he doesn't realize that the Romans were evil rapey bugmen that left no cultural legacy.

>>17950166
why are they so low iq and shitty despite all of this doe

>>17954832
Progress isn't instant and IQ is basically pointless to use as some sort of yardstick of comparison. More so since "high IQ" states like Japan have pretty ass salaries despite being apparently 109 (still within 1 SD so it's irrelevant" and many "high IQ" states can't even match flyover US states or even the worst of the South in white collar jobs.

>>17953707
Why, so you can forcibly sterlize them? LOL! You know they're the real Jews. Not you. You are an African people. Your "Patriarchs" fucked Nigger pussy at every turn. Who do you think those "foreign brides" were? Nice "Jewfro" you got there too ;)

Dat Afro-Semitic lyfe doh. Nothing but lips, nose and kinky locks for miles.

>>17953985
I already said that, Dummy. Try to keep up ;)

>>17955034
Is this the crazy terminally online Argentinian from /int/?

>>17952855
>the same geographic determinism must also be valid elsewhere.
Yes, it is.
And comparing the US to Africa in this regard is a false dichotomy.

Your comparing 54 countries with varying levels of development, cultures, political systems, and history, most of which have also just been made independent in the last 60-70 hell even the last 15 years, to one federal country that's existed for the past 248 that also had the benefit of utilizing British Industrialization practices.

Obviously geography isn't the only thing hampering development, but it's not a non-consequential factor either.

>>17950138
the only africans that invented writing are egyptians, and even that's debatable.
however europeans also never invented writing, they copied it from the semites of the levant so its not really the gotcha chuds think it is

>>17955066
The pathetic personal attacks only prove I'm winning more and more! Your boyz, Schlomo and Moshe, LOVED dat Nubian booty. It's in their stupid book, Dummy. I promise. Go look.

>>17955124
Wrong. The oldest "Writing" we have is in Europe, as is the oldest wheel, the oldest metal work, the oldest celestial observations, etc....

Europe is the "Cradle of Civilization". Not the Dark Continent.

>>17955190
>The oldest "Writing"
Source nig
>oldest wheel
True doesn't mean it originated there tho
>oldest metal work
Cope
>oldest celestial observations
Everyone stares at the sky chud

>>17955189
And the hit dog does holla

>>17950133 (OP)
what did euros do for 99% of human existance?
O wait the exact same thing as everyone else.

>>17950133 (OP)
The negroid is genetically inferior.

>>17954876
>measuring Japan's IQ against thwir wholly jew owned monetary system

>>17956125
Why is it always so funny when people talk about groups of people in the singular and using the definite article?

>>17950797
>You are psychotic
its good you know what you are

>>17950868
>Because they live in your head rent free 24/7
that IS your answer, they are relevant to you so you think about them. relinquish relevance retard