Thread 17952639

As a very average looking man with an Eastern European face structure I literally think that looks do not matter and have no moral significance. There's health and sexual attraction, but this is irrelevant to morality. Even if someone is really ugly or obese, I generally talk to men and women in the same way. It confuses me when people act like this stuff has any connection to a person's actual worth. Maybe I'm a Gnostic heretic but the flesh is a thin veneer that's just cosmetic.

>>17952639 (OP)
You are ugly so ofcourse you find solace in thinking that ugliness is irrelevant to a person's worth. Ironically your entire belief system stems from your ugliness, proving that flesh is all that truly matters.

>>17952643
I'm not going to facefag but I'd probably be considered a 6/10 or something. This worldview you're proposing is so stupid and bizarre.

>>17952639 (OP)
You must have an awesome harem of old ugly gfs

>>17952666
I still care about sexual attraction I just don't think someone is a bad person for being ugly, old, or fat. Obviously someone has to look good enough for my dick to get hard and for me to want to fuck them.

>>17952684
I don't think this is different from me liking certain foods and finding other foods gross.

>>17952639 (OP)
>looks do not matter
>>17952684
>I still care about sexual attraction

the hypocrite reveals himself


appearance is correlated to morals, always has been that way

>>17952684
You need to examine your biases. Emotional connections can be much stronger than mere physical attraction. I think you're just using other people's attractiveness as a stand-in for myriad other things like age, wealth, social status, what you think they smell like, and other things. Labor saving assumptions.

In all seriousness, you're referring to the gap between human and nonhuman companionship, or life and death. If you have an NDE or dangerous experience it's obvious that humans and human life are the most important thing in the world, ego and attractiveness far down the list. That has nothing to do with the day-to-day working of the world, which is about surviving repetitive stress and growing as a person. In order to have adult relationships that help you instead of sapping energy, you need to be around compatible people. That's where physiognomy comes in. I can tell from your eyes and your expression the broad strokes of how you think. Anyone can tell things about you from how you dress. Real things, substantive things about your life. Not cosmetic only.

>>17952688
Are you retarded? I don't think there's any morality to me not liking chocolate. These things belong to the bottom of the hierarchy and are not connected to what is objectively "good" or bad."

>>17952639 (OP)
You're (probably) right. If an uggo does a lot of good then he should be considered good; the inverse is also true. The issue is that too many people know nothing of human weakness and don't probe beyond skin deep observations. Now someone becoming bitter and jaded because of how they're treated due to their looks and vice versa is very real. Ugly people are more cynical because they have been hardened by bullying and attractive people are softer for the same reasons. Behavior isn't always a result of looks but is rather a secondary consequence of poor treatment by trash.

This is because you are a normal person who grew up in a normal environment, detached from the psychic whirlpool of malice, envy and insecurity that you see on this website and elsewhere. A word of warning: if you keep looking at deranged insecure blackpiller retards scum, you will eventually receive some of their influence by osmosis, even if you otherwise keep your wits about you.

>>17952639 (OP)
I don't think "looks" matter, I think aesthetics and optics matter, both the way you talk or look exist to serve the impression of having self-awareness, and therefore being a reliable, trustworthy or stable individual, or someone who can have influence over people, so aesthetics is a form of power-play

>>17953518
An ugly face is just a more interesting and transgressive version of its perfect form. Successful ugly people are more likely to emphasize their distinct characteristic than hide it. That's right folks, all faces are beautiful. What really turns society off is a negative expression, a reflection of past wounds. No one wants to be downstream of your wound.

>>17953618
Not necessarily.

>>17953665
It is, just not the way you think. If a smooth symmetrical face is perfection, one flaw is a transgression. A series of fucked up flaws is increasing symbolic complexity. By the time you get to a scrunched up dark manlet face with bug eyes, it's symbolic chaos to the point of almost being, I dunno, a completely different cultural track or something. Even so, all you need to rise above it is mastery over the disparate elements. Every aspect of man is millions of years old and has dignity, you just don't know how to make a coherent man out of all your ancestors and all the parts of your face.

There are so many forms of human dignity that extend beneath the superficial, and you transform those into aesthetic by posing a threat to "do it again" whatever action your body was formed by. Someone who looks like a dad is a threat to impregnate and father you. A hard worker is a threat to out-earn you. Manlets tend to be dangerous people because of bullying and poor background. The only person who's no threat to anyone is one with a vacant expression who doesn't feel, doesn't think, doesn't see you coming. Get those eyes moving anon

>>17953618
>No one wants to be downstream of your wound
Thats some problematic language bud.

The only things that looks truly impact are Sexual attractiveness and health. Besides that, it's all strength and intelligence.