Thread 17953337

Why did fascism failed to prevail against liberalism and communism despite purging degeneracy and embracing the will to power?

>>17953337 (OP)
Perhaps it had worse "public relations" for the average eater of bread than other political systems.

>>17953337 (OP)
Because they lost ww2.
Besides that, traditionnalist & fascist regimes believe too much that the individual cares about the nation or religion. In reality, they do to a certain extent but they care more about their material condition. It's why Franco had to liberalize Spain at the end of his rule, why Soviet leaders became disenchanted with communism, why Deng adapted marxism to capitalism, and why Salazar's regime got unpopular etc.
People care about metaphysical doctrines up until it starts preventing them to buy or consume certain goods.

liberalism is "embracing the will to power" when your IQ is above 80

>>17953337 (OP)
Because people are weak and indisciplined. Fascism is the cure for degeneracy and disorder. Once the crisis is resolved, people forget.

"liberalism" if you can even call it that, won solely due to its higher economic power
that's it, that's literally all there is to it
and if you don't believe me just look at how "liberalism" today is losing to china, which is winning because of its stronger economic power

>>17953337 (OP)
unfavourable material circumstances.
>>17953357
a post that could only be written by a sub 80 iq "person"

>>17953337 (OP)
Fascism was doomed the moment Mussolini decided to moderate himself to appease the Bourgeoise. D'Annunzio's Fiume should have been the model society of fascism and all fascist doctrine

>>17953337 (OP)
Too many enemies, they pissed off both the commies and the capitalists

>>17953403
sure mao

>>17953433
We were robbed

>>17953337 (OP)
No one is entitled to the Will to Power.

>>17953478
enjoy your next halfbreed indian-kike president kissing the feet of the israeli prime minister

>>17953692
as soon as US hegemony is threatened the 3 gorges dam will be popped by a mysterious unnamed terror group

>>17953793
>he doesn't know

>>17953337 (OP)
>fascism is the way

>>17953337 (OP)
another

>>17953337 (OP)
Never that smart to chimpout against your neighbours or any foreign nation that's equal to you in power

>>17953913
(Cont) that's one of the main reasons Francoist Spain lasted so long. They kept it on the down low

>>17953403
>losing to china, which is winning because of its stronger economic power
The gap in income between the median American and the median Chinese only keeps increasing. China talks a lot about percentages but never about the actual purchasing power of the median person because it actually shows who's doing better than who. A 10% increase in income for someone who makes 10k/year is 1k. Literally less than a 3% increase for someone who makes 50k, which would be 1.5k.

>>17953692
You have jew derangement syndrome.

>>17953337 (OP)
Fascism is literally behaving like street gang niggers on a national scale.

>Start a fight with Muttmercia, Bongistan, and Roosia all at once
>Act surprised when you get your ass beat

Such a mystery

>>17953337 (OP)
tldr Facism Nazism are ideologies that force to behave you like an asshole so they are not sustainable in the long run

>>17953916
Franco wasn't a fascist, he was closer to a latin american caudillo warlord than Mussolini or even Salazar, which is why Salazar especially is still seein as a great man in portugal while Franco's legacy is turning spain into the most globohomo leftist country in the EU

>>17953337 (OP)
They seemingly refused to build Alliances with Nations that didnt share thier ideology (shockingly race is a pretty clear barrier in that regard). And thier own populations weren't even completely behind them.
The Nazis went from semi revolution to world conquest in less than 20 years. What were they even thinking?

>>17953953
Holy shit, this meme is so ancient. Oldfags really were smart compared to us shartyniglets.

>>17954282
>They seemingly refused to build Alliances with Nations that didnt share thier ideology
meanwhile Nazi Germany allied with the USSR while Britain was unwilling to do so...

>>17954312
The U.S.S.R. the spreader of Communism which the Nazis hated so much. Thier alliance was merely a temporary hold on hostilies, which the Nazis broke as soon as they felt like it. So not really an alliance at all. They could have allied with every central European country that hated Communism. Yet even the Finns were not as strong an ally as they could have been. The "Allies" on the other hand, helped each other economically and militarily and didnt have to occupy each other's countries to keep them from betraying each other. Even the Soviet alliance paid off mostly. Though a big part of that was just geography.

>>17954339
>Thier alliance was merely a temporary hold
so what? every alliance is by nature temporary, non temporary alliances are called unifications. the nazi's desire was to expand eastward so of course they eventually broke the alliance, but that still shows they had no issue with allying with nations that didn't share their ideology.
they also tried to become Britain's best friends and failed. meanwhile it was also Britain who declared war on Germany.
>The "Allies" on the other hand, helped each other economically and militarily
America had enormous amounts of resources and used that to control the war. it doesn't get more complex than that. they also sent a ton of resources to the USSR, just to turn against them right after the war, curious huh?

>>17954353
Yes they broke thier Alliance AFTER the war was over. Germany apparently could not grasp this concept.
If you can't see the difference you are lost. The Soviets invaded many countries the Germans could have helped. They had to occupy countries they could have been full allies with, wasting troops and resources.

>>17953337 (OP)
>purging degeneracy

Don't make me click the Nazis in drag folder.

>>17954365
No, Germany tried to do that and failed. They initially made peace with USSR to focus on the western front, but failed to break Britain, so they broke the alliance with the USSR in a last desperate attempt at taking control of continental Europe, and failed again.

They overreached too much militarily. Also, Fascist economies rely on constantly conquering new territories.

>>17953337 (OP)
>Bro,
>lets just invade everyone,
>we are the master race,
>what can go wrong?

>>17954395
Probably the only reasonable reply in this shitshow of a thread

>>17953793
That means nuclear war you dumb gorilla nigger

>>17953337 (OP)
unrelated but I like the lineart
is there a way to know who's the artist?

>>17954375
You are a dumbass who is possesed by the same level of thinking the Nazis had. Instead of their fake alliance with the Soviets. They could have allied with all the country's the Soviets were taking over. Breaking thier alliance with the Soviets showed it wasn't an alliance at all. Which i am sure everyone already knew. And ruined international German trust and credibility.