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Anonymous No.17953871 >>17953877 >>17953883 >>17953890 >>17953907 >>17953937 >>17954047 >>17954712 >>17955007 >>17956207 >>17956724 >>17957109
historically speaking why does Russia have no popular cultural exports, hell Japan has more and they were losers in the textbooks
Anonymous No.17953877 >>17954573
>>17953871 (OP)
I think unironically this is their biggest export
https://youtu.be/gEbbHlMXE9Y
Anonymous No.17953883 >>17954093
>>17953871 (OP)
Russia historically had like 0 softpower so they never appealed anyone besides retards in france or germany who looked at map and were like 'uhhh so big me like'
Their culture was so weak they couldn't integrate balts, ukrainians or noname steppeniggers
Anonymous No.17953887
only thing they really have is pro chess players if you're into chess
Anonymous No.17953890 >>17953900
>>17953871 (OP)
And Eastern Orthodox Church as an russian export product?
Anonymous No.17953900 >>17953994
>>17953890
thats not even a good example, there are plenty of protestant and catholic countries outside of where they started but name an orthodox country outside of eastern europe
Anonymous No.17953907
>>17953871 (OP)
Cheeki breeki
Anonymous No.17953937 >>17953986 >>17954047 >>17954244
>>17953871 (OP)
Russchads excel at making cult classics.
Sergei Eisenstein, Tchaikovsky, Baryshnikov, Stalker among others.
All appeal to niche audiences with fairly high IQs. I hope it stays that way.
Anonymous No.17953986
>>17953937
>All appeal to niche audiences with fairly high IQs
ironic considering their communist history
heard one story of Khachaturian getting in trouble for a concerto he wrote... that he had dedicated to the Russian revolution
Anonymous No.17953994
>>17953900
>orthodox country outside of eastern europe
Ethiopia says hello
Anonymous No.17953998
I heard this guy was a big deal. There were also influential Russian composers. I’d also that the communist aesthetic they cultivated was exported throughout the world and remains relevant to commies and in depictions of communism, whether you like communism or not (I don’t).
Anonymous No.17954047 >>17954174
>>17953871 (OP)
>>17953937
>be Russian artist
>feel owerwhelming despair over the absolute state of the shitshow that is Russia in any time period
>channel the pain into art
>get banned and persecuted by authorities
>150 years later, latest Russian despot presents you as evidence for the superiority of Russian culture while continuing to persecute contemporary artist

Every single time. Ironically, state-sanctioned artists tended to copy Western art very closely, so that the Tzars could flaunt how cultured they are to diplomatic partners, which is how you get things like Russian ballet and opera.
Anonymous No.17954093 >>17956712
>>17953883
That's a myth, Russia has had massive soft power since Soviet times. They micromanaged the entire global Communist movement since the 20s basically with only words and ideology. They ran some of the most effective sciops ever against the US and Western Europe. Most of their assets worked and work for them genuinely thinking that the Soviet Union/Russian Federation is and example to follow.

The "no soft power" myth comes from the fact that they have an imperialistic agenda so when they get influence over a country they quickly turn to violent oppression because that was the whole point. So Russia's neighbors who are all former imperial subjects usually hate them so much that no soft power will overturn it, so they don't try to do that anymore (they still do destabilization pysops though).
Anonymous No.17954174
>>17954047
that's nothing unique all art has that in common. a guy who was scorned in his day as degenerate subversive trash will with rare exception get lionized in a few generations as an exemplar of art to be aspired to while shitting on whatever is currently happening in art.
Anonymous No.17954238 >>17954248
For some reason Russia exported highbrow art instead of pop slop. Poets, novelists, composers, film, ballet, etc. It’s funny how during the Cold War the West didn’t cancel Dostoyevsky or Tchaikovsky, seeing them as expressions of Russian soulfulness temporarily stifled by the commies, but in recent years these artists have been shitcanned from symphonies and literature classes in the U.S.
Anonymous No.17954244 >>17954562 >>17954690
>>17953937
>Sergei Eisenstein, Tchaikovsky, Baryshnikov, Stalker
how many of them racially russoid?
Anonymous No.17954248
>>17954238
dostojewski was a belarus, czajkowski an ukrainian
Anonymous No.17954552
Japan had lots of merchant ships since the Edo Period, as well as investing a lot in video games and entertainment. Also Russia took a long time to industrialized, while Japan had the Meiji Restoration and modernized early.
Anonymous No.17954562
>>17954244
Depends on the field and particular person.

Of the composers Tschaikovsky is the most well known and he was some kind of Polish-Russian mixture. The more important(for development of actual russian classical music style) composers like Mussogorsky or Balakirev were like 3/5 fully Russian, one half-russian(the other half georgian) and one French-Lithuanian(and also a general in the Russian army).
When it comes to writers Tolstoy was Russian, Dostoyevsky 3/4th(the other 4th Polish), I dunno who else is commonly brought up(Bulgakov? Iirc his family can be traced back to Pskov and Voronezh, so most likely Russian, Pushkin famously an octoroon and I don't like niggers so one drop rule applies - not Russian).
Anonymous No.17954573 >>17954671
>>17953877
Don't you dare, Russian animation is kino
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Tchaikovsky
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Prokofiev
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Stravinsky
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Mussorgsky
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Nureyev
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Baryshnikov
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The Bolshoi Theater
Russchad supporter No.17954664 >>17956735 >>17957112
Viktor Tsoi
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Ilya Repin
Anonymous No.17954671
>>17954573
am I incorrect tho?
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Sergei Eisenstein
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Dziga Vertov
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Andrei Tarkovsky
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Aleksey German
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Yuri Norstein
Anonymous No.17954690
>>17954244
Pushkin was a Quadroon from his grandfather's side.
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Come and See
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The Ascent
Russchad supporter No.17954700 >>17956207
The Snow Queen
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Russian Ark
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Leviathan
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Hardcore Henry
Anonymous No.17954712 >>17954718
>>17953871 (OP)
Are we gonna pretend that Dostoevsky, Tchaikovsky, Tolstoy, Pushkin, Gogol, Nabokov, Kalashnikov, all the colonists who expanded into Siberia and Alaska, all the austonaurs, all film directors etc. didn't exist? Ofcourse Russians are less advanced than Germans, English and Scottish people. But to overlook them like this is just retarded. And no im not Russian.
Anonymous No.17954718 >>17954722 >>17956657
>>17954712
I didnt say they lacked culture im saying they lack the ability to import softculture
its the meme about how jeans destroyed the USSR
Anonymous No.17954722
>>17954718
Well if looked at civilisatioanly, they are kinda their own thing. Thats probably the reason. And being raped by Mongols probably puts into your blood memory that all outsiders are evil.
Anonymous No.17955007 >>17957040
>>17953871 (OP)
russians made the best classical music
Anonymous No.17956207
>>17954700
>>17953871 (OP)
Siberian anime?
Anonymous No.17956657
>>17954718
>they lack the ability to import softculture
Blame bolsheviks. During last decades before the revolution russian culture was very popular in France and was spreading to other european nations and even USA.
Anonymous No.17956712
>>17954093
Soviet union yes, definitely, but I assume op asked about imperial russia based on pic
Anonymous No.17956724 >>17956732
>>17953871 (OP)
I'm Bulgarian and grew up watching Nu Pogodi, my dad and most people in his generation are conversational in Russian because it was part of the school curriculum before '89. I'd call that a cultural export.
Anonymous No.17956732 >>17956741
>>17956724
>Nu Pogodi
the degenerate ripoff of tom and jerry? how would you rate it from an adult retrospecion? would you let your kids watch that filth?
Anonymous No.17956735
>>17954664
This is also a cultural export in the realest sense, millions of westoid zoomers listen to Kino lel
Anonymous No.17956741 >>17956749
>>17956732
what are you even talking about, schizo?
Anonymous No.17956749 >>17957089
>>17956741
it's the cartoon about the chainsmoking alcoholic wolf trying to rape a twink rabbit, isn't it?
Anonymous No.17957040
>>17955007
This
Anonymous No.17957089
>>17956749
>it's the cartoon about the chainsmoking alcoholic wolf trying to eat a twink rabbit, isn't it?
ftfy, great cartoon
Anonymous No.17957109
>>17953871 (OP)
>Russia have no popular cultural exports
https://learnodo-newtonic.com/famous-russian-novelists
Anonymous No.17957112
>>17954664
K-Rock legend, I kneel