Thread 17954771

>Pioneers french ballet
>Pioneers baroque art
>Genocides jew worshipping protestant hillbilly rednecks making france a "no protestant nigger zone"
>Builds the palace of versailles
>Claims he is Apollo incarnate, dresses as the sun god and is named the sun king for it
>Btfos everyone in wars
>Has 15+ mistresses all at the same time
>Longest reigning monarch
He is the most based frenchman, Napoleon included.

>>17954771 (OP)
>>Pioneers french ballet
>>Pioneers baroque art
cringe faggot shit
>>Genocides jew worshipping protestant hillbilly rednecks making france a "no protestant nigger zone"
dangerously based but at the same time he turned the clergy into glorified nobles
>>Builds the palace of versailles
Its ok
>>Claims he is Apollo incarnate, dresses as the sun god and is named the sun king for it
cringe LARP
>>Btfos everyone in wars
I will forever hate him for aiding the Turks when the Habsburgs were taking out the trash
>>Has 15+ mistresses all at the same time
He was French so I assume at least half of them were little boys with their balls cut off
>>Longest reigning monarch
should have retired a decade or two before his death
5/10 Monarch

>>17954783
Back to work prole before you get whipped.

>>17954791
Scusi?

>>17954797
*whips*

Back to work prole, your prole opinion is disgusting and doesnt matter.

>>17954783
>He should have retired cause…cause…h-he just should have okay…!

>>17954771 (OP)
Well I heard he modified the court into a giant social frilly necked hangout for the nobles where fashion and dancing was competitive to gain his favour. Sounds kind of not based and may have led to the environment that enabled the revolution.

>>17954771 (OP)
cute prince

>>17954771 (OP)
I grew up in a former European colony with a lot of Huguenot settlers who fled France during their persecution under his reign. The settlers became quite wealthy and opened a lavish museum dedicated to their history. There is a section desicated entirely to basically demonizing Louis XIV.

I read every single word on display in that section and walked away with the conclusion that the Sun King was based af.

>>17954783
Not every thread has to have some faggot contrarian take in it

>>17954845
>Well I heard
You cant be fucking serious.
>that enabled the revolution.
He was dead for 2+ generations when the revolution happened moron.

What is this shit drunk boomer pub gossip in text?

>>17955048
I heard he fucked your mother too.

>>17955053
I know thats why Im immortal with Apollo's divine blood in me while you are a retarded boomer gossip retard who will die with shit in his pants.

>>17955071
>Apollos divine blood
Based Catholic

>>17955076
Uh since when do catholics believe in Apollo?

>>17954948
South Carolina?

guiding his chariot pulled by wild horses with a strong hand, facing west. The sun rises and sets
by Apollo, and therefore Louis, making him symbolically central to Versailles and to the very
life of each person in his orbit.
The mythology of the Sun King was created with the construction of the gardens, but
Louis had to draw nobles to Versailles and keep them there. Due to Louis heavily restricting the
Parlements power, it was understood that any nobleman of any ambition had to get the king’s
approval, and that meant going to Versailles. Relocating to Versailles forced nobles to follow and
Louis had to get clever about how to make them stay. As part of this effort, Louis turned to daily
ritual. Daily ritual served the dual purpose of furthering his god-like image and fracturing
nobility.
41 For the purposes of this paper, those who stayed at Court expressly for the king’s
approval will be categorized as ‘the desperate’. The desperate came to Versailles with requests
for the king, but quickly discovered there was a particular way things must be done. The king
kept a regimented schedule peppered with ceremonies, some of which date back to the sixteenth
century.
42 One such ceremony was lever, in which only the most honored members of the Court
attended the King as he woke up and an even more select few partook the grande entrée, where
they dressed the King.43 With this regimented hierarchy and the correlating honors, the nobility
was effectively turned against itself. To this effect, those who came to Versailles with requests
for the King were faced with this social order. In order to gain a meeting with the King, one had
to become familiar with his daily ritual and obtain an audience by interceding his routine. Louis
intentionally made himself very available, taking the same path from his chambers to the chapel
daily.

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Court uniform, and a very expensive one at that. Certain coats made with the finest gold buttons
and blue and red die could only be worn by the highest ranking members. Other garments were
created with precious metals and stones as well as fine fabrics such as silk. Each outfit cost a
fortune and nobles were expected to have entire wardrobes with dress for every occasion.52 The
pressure to be presentable at Court, both from the king and fellow nobles, made buying into such
a wardrobe an absolute necessity. Humiliation at Court, like what Bruyére often found himself at
the receiving end of, was not unheard of and Courtiers were anxious not to be ostracized. This
careful balance between humiliation and fashion is perhaps best illustrated by the painful
experience of M. de Luxembourg as related by Saint-Simon:
I had just arrived and was already seated when I saw at the back a great deal of muslin
(…) surmounted by a real stag’s antlers on a bizarre coiffure, so tall that it got caught in a
chandelier (…) when the mask turned and showed the face of M. de Luxembourg. The
sudden burst of laughter was scandalous.53
If Saint-Simon’s account is to be trusted, the humiliating costume that publicly marked
Luxembourg a cuckold was a suggestion from Louis. With this assumption, an interesting picture
takes shape, fashion as not only a means of marking rank, but being weaponized for outright
humiliation. By encouraging the nobility to make fun of and look down upon one another, they
would be far less likely to create alliances, as they would be more concerned with their own
standing at Court. Madame de Motteville, member of the Court and memoirist,54
relays, “The
King’s establishment is like a vast market, where there is no choice but to go and bargain, both to
maintain one’s own existence and to protect the interests of those to whom we are attached by.

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duty or friendship.”55 Courtiers either wore their fortunes or resulted in borrowing from the king
to fund their fashion.56 Nobles thus sunk into debt, becoming financially ensnared and unable to
leave Versailles due to their newfound impoverishment.57
Gambling was another snare in which fortunes were lost and Courtiers became indebted to
the King, with the added caveat of addiction. Louis participated in gambling, making it part of
his routine, Courtiers filed into the gaming tables and became caught up in the game. In an
almost frenzied environment, they bet staggering sums. Madame de Sévigné, a French
aristocrat,58 writes, “They play for enormous sums at Versailles. In Paris hoca59
is forbidden,
under pain of death, and yet the King and his Court play it: for 5,000 pistoles to change hands in
a single morning is nothing.”60 Versailles existed as its own world that did not abide by the rules
of Paris, and instead catered to the King’s pleasures, shown by the indulgence of gambling.
Courtiers thus became isolated from Paris by their own addiction, bogged down in the gaming
halls of Versailles. The Princess Palatine tells,
The players behave like madmen, one screaming aloud, while the other striking the table
so hard with his fist that the whole room echoes with the sound, a third uttering
blasphemous oaths so terrible as to make one’s hair stand on end; they all appear to be
completely out of their minds.61
The destitute stayed at the gaming tables, as if chained, hoping for a change in their fortunes.
Winning and losing such sums raised the stakes to the extent that nobles felt prompted to keep playing.

>>17954771 (OP)
>Builds the palace of versailles
Probably the greatest mistake he made

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playing, and while some won they often bet it back and others sank further into debt. Of course,
if one gambled with the King, it was expected that the King would win.62 While Louis partook in
gambling and normalized it at his Court, it only detrimentally affected the Courtiers, further
entwining the noble class with Versailles.
The final category of Courtiers are ‘the debauched’, which will encompass all those who
stayed at Versailles because of their ability to do what they wished. Louis kept the debauched at
Versailles through spectacle and tolerance of dissolution. Aside from the dysfunctional plumbing
that persisted until 1686,63 Versailles was a comfortable place for guests and part of this comfort
was having lax moral expectations at Court. Louis appeared to walk the line between being the
pious King and allowing at Versailles what would never be accepted in Paris. Who could flaunt
moral expectations was based strictly upon who was in the King’s favor.
64 Condé’s nephew, the
Prince de La Roche-sur-Yon, was one of the Courtiers who Louis had no tolerance of (while
never specified why, it can be inferred that this was due to his relation to Louis’ cousin and the
original traitor, Condé). Louis recalled the young man to Versailles and placed him under
surveillance, disallowing him any freedom.65 Conversely, the Duc de Vendôme’s debauchery was
entirely overlooked by the King, despite it being common knowledge at Court, much to
Saint-Simon’s outrage,
Vendôme was vilely plunged in the mire of perversions all his life, behaving quite
blatantly in public, as though he were conducting trivial and normal love-affairs. Yet the
King, who was well aware of his habits, never gave any reproach

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remained on excellent terms with him. (…) His servants and junior officers were
continually called upon to satisfy his unnatural lust, were know to be his minions (…)”
While it is unclear why Louis favored Vendôme in this instance, a clue to Louis’ rationale can be
found in his tolerance of his own brother, Louis Philippe I, at Court. Scholar Mark Franco
explores the use of androgyny at Court, which Louis used in ballets to create a more ethereal
image.66 However it was this same androgyny that rendered his brother ridiculous. Several things
made Louis Philippe the perfect foil to Louis’ more dignified, imperial image; his affairs with
men and tendency to dress in women’s clothes not being the least of them.67 Members of Court
flaunting societal norms and making themselves the object of ridicule, or at least unable to garner
any serious respect, improved Louis’ own image by contrast. Louis played favorites in this way,
keeping some at Versailles with his tolerance and forcing others to stay there by subjecting them
to his intolerance. This created a sense of imbalance at Court, those who acted in ways that were
not generally accepted (from homosexuality and drunkenness to pedophilia) risked being exiled
for these reasons if they fell out of favor with the King. There were efforts to create pacts
amongst certain members of nobility (usually the younger Courtiers formed fraternities) to keep
their behavior secret from Louis.68
It is unclear the exact reason for some of the exiles, although
it can be assumed that Louis did not truly exile nobility because of their supposedly shocking
debauchery. These nobles might have posed a threat or it may have been Louis demonstrating the
extent of his power. One such case was in June 1682, where Louis expelled several members
from Court due to their ‘ultramontane’ debaucheries.69 The Marquis de Sourches in his mémoires
recalls the incident,

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The Duc de La Rochefoucauld used all his influence with the King to plead with him to
spare his kinsman, whom he loved so dearly, so terrible a humiliation. But the King was
inexorable. He did, however, grant M. le Grand’s urgent plea that the Comte de Brionne,
his eldest son, should not be exiled like the others, despite the fact that he was accused of
the same misdeeds.70
Louis allowing one man to stay at Court while banning the other exhibits his indifference to
morality, rather that Louis only is concerned with displaying his absolute power. This is done to
the point that Rochefoucauld humiliates himself by pleading with the King, Louis furthers this
humiliation by allowing le Grand’s son to stay. Rochefoucauld was one of the most active rebels
in the Fronde,71 and here Louis continues to punish him and his friends for his past
insubordination, making an example of him for the Court. The debauched found themselves
simultaneously able to indulge whatever behaviors they wished and fearful of these same
behaviors being used against them by the King.
Among historians, it is widely agreed upon that Louis created Versailles as a reaction to
the Fronde and that many aspects of Court life were oriented toward establishing his dominance
and stripping the nobility of their power. When it comes to categorizing those who wasted away
at Versailles as the desperate, the destitute.

>>17955131
The paper concludes by saying his son and grandson become the sort of fools he dereided at Court. And don't run things so well as he did. The Parlement revokes the powers he invoked immediately upon his death.

>In a
>strange twist of fate, Louis XIV’s own successors became victims of Versailles; their perceived
hedonism and ineffectual leadership eventually contributed to the call for the French Revolution
and thus the executions of Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette. The antagonistic relationship
between nobility and throne, while not created by Versailles, was certainly intensified because of
it. Similarly, a highly structured class system remained crucial to France, likewise enormous
wealth disparities between the upper and lower classes persisted. Historian, Franklin L. Ford
elaborates,
French noblemen thus saw their class excluded from civil offices, reduced to a breathless
reliance on the king’s pleasure, cowed by an initial show of royal power, prevented from
exerting group pressure on high policy (…) Yet the class survived as a privileged stratum
of the population.

>>17955122
>femboy enjoyer
holy based!

>>17955145
In conclusion you could say 4chan is a Versailles Palace of sorts.

>>17955113
>bet 60 bucks on blackjack
>pit boss drags you away and schedules an execution
Absolutist laws were kino.

>>17955151
martialy superior femboys is what EVROPA is all about

>>17954771 (OP)
>Genocides jew worshipping protestant hillbilly rednecks
that is not true btw French Protestants were mainly middle class while the redneck peasant types were ardent Catholics

>>17955179
Protestants come in the hive forms of the hillbilly redneck meth head and the automaton meddling puritan. Both deserve to be persecuted on sight and so differentiation doesnt matter.

>>17955203
Not that catholics are any better in pure form. They are like a pagan femboy chad who have a christian chud piggybacking them and take credit for everything the pagan femboy chad does. In the case of Louis XIV he was almost pure pagan hence why he was so based. The palace of versailles reflects this sentiment.

>>17955229
all the aesthetic superiority is thanks to the pagan femboy chad either though inspiration or patronage or direct involvement and all the stupid self-flogging and burning at the stake etc is because of the eternally seething christian chud piggybacking

>>17955203
>and the automaton meddling puritan
lol fucking protestant work ethic
>What is that you are iddling? Im gonna call the whole village and we will ostracise you if you wont prodoooooooce in the next 10 seconds

>>17955474
>W-what is that? You got a boner? How dare you sinner! You will burn in hell for this! I dont know what I did wrong when I raised you!