Thread 17955616

Why do the National Socialists have a reputation for being White supremacists, when they hated various White skinned groups of people (Jews, Poles, Russians, Ukrainians) but were fine with yellow skinned groups of people (Japanese and Chinese)?
Shouldn't the Americans be remembered as the real White supremacists, considering much of their propaganda existed to dehumanize the Japanese purely based on skin colour?

>>17955616 (OP)
The Nazis were pro-German, that's it. Their alliance with the Japanese was purely out of convenience in hopes that they'd keep the Soviets in check while they coerced them into chopping up Poland.

They weren’t really fine with them, it’s more that they didn’t care because they were not an immediate threat to Germany and were possible partners against Russia. They wanted to eventually wipe out Asians after several generations of colonizing Eastern Europe, in the Posen Speeches Himmler talks about how getting Lebensraum the Germanic race must take on Asians in a giant war.

>>17955624
Nevermind it wasn’t the Posen speeches but in Kharkiv.

>These clashes are the only evolutionary possibility which will enable us one day, now that Fate has given us the Führer Adolf Hitler, to create the Germanic Reich. They are the necessary condition, for our race, and our blood to create for itself and put under cultivation, in the years of peace (during which we must live and work austerely, frugally and like Spartans), that settlement area in which new blood can breed, as in a botanical garden so to speak. Only by this means can the Continent become a Germanic Continent, capable of daring to embark, in one or two or three or five or ten generations, on the conflict with this Continent of Asia which spews out hordes of humanity

>>17955631
By continent of Asia he means Russia though. Himmler praises the Japanese in other quotes
Then again Himmler was just Hitler's lackey who repeated whatever Hitler was currently saying so who knows what he really believed

>>17955654
Himmler was in fact a blabber mouth who said things for effect that didn't reflect Reich policy. Nor was he secretly saying this stuff and he made numerous copies of his speeches. But yes, Asia didn't refer to Japanese but more central Asia. In this way he was prophetic as Asia was bound to send its hordes west as it does today.

>>17955616 (OP)
Because the slavs were historically slaves of the germans, they were subject to german colonization and influence, even the eastern slavs, russians and ukrainians, it is not for nothing that the full surname of the Romanovs is Gottorp-Holstein-Romanov. The slavs were historically less rich and developed than the germans.

But after the defeat of Germany and Austria in WWI, the czechs gained independence and controlled the Sudetenland, the poles controlled Danzig. In the Baltics, centuries of german rule was overthrown. Many cities in Eastern Europe were populated by germans, but after WWI they were rapidly replaced by slavic peasants. The germans considered them ungrateful upstarts who had rebelled against them and were oppressing germans in their territories.

>>17955616 (OP)
>Why do the National Socialists have a reputation for being White supremacists
Anti-whites want to tie any kind of white advocacy to the nazis.

>>17955616 (OP)
>Shouldn't the Americans be remembered as the real White supremacists, considering much of their propaganda existed to dehumanize the Japanese purely based on skin colour?
American propaganda was borderline Nazi-tier in dehumanization. It's odd they don't get that much shit for it

>>17955667
>Anti-whites
You say this as if Nazi imagery wasn't always heavily associated with White Nationalist groups in general. I would unironically argue that White Nationalist Gangs in the US throughout the 80s and 90s (Aryan Brotherhood, Nazi Lowriders et al) were the last groups to really understand what white nationalism was all about, which was white brotherhood, standing toe to toe with black and Mexican gangs with similar motives, and nowadays /pol/tards dismiss them as some Jewish psyop.

>>17955616 (OP)
Because Americans are utterly incapable of seeing racial politicals without viewing it through the lens of their own utterly fucked nightmare.

>>17955616 (OP)
>WHITE POWERRRRRRRRRR

>>17955622
You mean pro-Germanic.

>>17955616 (OP)
>they hated various White skinned groups of people (Jews
Ashkenazi jews are more Middle Eastern
>Shouldn't the Americans be remembered as the real White supremacists, considering much of their propaganda existed to dehumanize the Japanese purely based on skin colour?
When people say "just skin color" in reference to black vs White racial tensions it's stupid but overall understandable I guess, but when they say it in reference to asiatic peoples it's quite strange indeed, since their physiognomy is all completely different
>>17955669
Yes the Germans based much of their policies off of pre-existing American policies.