Thread 17968442

Jesus Christ is our lord and savior.

>>17968442 (OP)
Jesus was a pedophile schizo with a God complex.
>Every one of Jesus’ apostles besides Peter was underage (neaniskos is the Greek word used)
>When a woman questions why he hangs out with kids he says “don’t scandalize me”
>Tells these boys he will make them “fishers of men”
>Goes into upper rooms and washes their feet while naked
>Tells them to “eat his flesh and drink his haima” (if you think this means “blood” here, see Ezekiel 23:20)
>Is arrested in a public park at 4am with a naked boy (see Mark 14:51-52)
>When the cops show up he says “why do you come for me with swords and clubs like I’m some kind of leistes”
>The word leistes, which gets translated as “thief” is actually “pirate” and was used in contemporary texts (many examples such as Lucian’s Alexander) to refer to sex traffickers
>Sex trafficking was a big problem in the Mediterranean and one of the big things the Romans did was crack down on the pedo pirates. Julius Caesar himself was kidnapped by them as a kid and afterwards had them all crucified
>Jesus Christ was in fact crucified between two other leistes
There's a reason Jesus's "Most Beloved Disciple" is always depicted as a beardless boy whereas the rest of his followers had beards. Dude liked em young.

>>17968449
shouldn't you kikes be running overdrive on PR with the normies after double tapping a hospital? Why are you here shitting up /his/ as if every anon who frequents this site wants to see you brutally eradicated?

>>17968454
Feel free to try to refute any part of that post you're replying to

>>17968459
>debate me bro
No. You're a jew.

>>17968442 (OP)
Amen

>>17968449
Bot

>>17968442 (OP)
And He's in (you)

>At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

>Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

>>17968472
He Gets Us

>>17968442 (OP)
Based

>>17968442 (OP)
>Lord
Never ruled a kingdom
>Saviour
From what he's going to do

>>17968449
>posts this kikeslop bullshit everyday
>xe does it for free
moshi you're overpaid

>>17968469
kek that's the only way to talk to these demons
well played anon, God bless you and your descendants

>>17968442 (OP)
Sacred Heart of Jesus
I trust in you

>savior
from what?

Amen.

>>17968983
>>17969068
>be serial killer
>president offers to pardon you out of mere love
>tfw this monster is offering to save you from what he's going to do to you

>>17968442 (OP)
Jesus didn't exist.

>>17968442 (OP)
No physical evidence
No one who knew him wrote anything down
No return within his follower's lifetime as promised

>>17969944
>>17969948
Seething anger for your creator

>>17969955
Your jewish fairytales are a joke

>>17969955
Thats just a first century jewish preacher man just let it go

>>17969957
>>17969958
You will not escape the judgement of God

>>17968442 (OP)
Prove it.

>>17969965
No one is afraid of your jewish god that you only pretend to believe in to feel superior to people you don't like

>>17968449
The temple tax
In Exodus 30:14-15, Jewish law states that every male over the age of 20 is to pay a half-shekel as census offering when they visit the temple of God. In Matthew 17:24-27, Jesus instructs Peter to “fish up” this tax. Peter finds a shekel in the mouth of the fish he catches; enough to pay the tax for two men, himself and Jesus. You could conclude that the others were underage and did not need to pay.

The use of the term “little ones”
In Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21, and John 13:33, Jesus calls his disciples little children; a bit insulting if they were adults.

They were unmarried
We learn that Peter had a wife when Jesus healed his mother-in-law (Matthew 8:14-15). In those ancient times, a Jewish man receives a wife after the age of 18. Again, no other disciples’ wives are mentioned. You could deduce then, that they were unmarried, hence under the age of 18.

>>17969992
I'm not superior, if it were not for the grace of God I would be as depraved and evil as you.

>>17970013
Prove that Jesus is God or the son of God or whatever.

>>17968442 (OP)
amen

>>17969913
What is God going to do to me, and what crime did I commit to deserve it?

>>17968442 (OP)
Truth NVKE!

>>17970025
>>17969967
Waiting for Christians to prove that Jesus is God or the son of God or whatever the claim is.

>>17970025
No.
>>17970070
He's going to send you to hell, and more than can be counted.

>>17970135
>more than can be counted
What are the most serious? Can't repent if I don't know...

>>17968449
I’m so glad Hell exists for termites like you. I’ll enjoy watching you burn in white hot flames, from the comfort of heaven. You’re done. :)

>>17970137
You can’t repent, period. You’ve been given over to a reprobate mind. Every day you live, you stoke the flames of Hell. It’s going to be completely unbearable when you go there, but you’ll be forced to bear it without rest, ever! :) I hope you live 100 years.

>>17970135
>No I will not prove it.
Because you have no proof whatsoever you absolute clown.
Nobody is impressed or scared from anything you are saying.

>>17970144
>You can’t repent, period.
So the Bible is wrong. *mic drop*

>>17970150
>The Bible is wrong because the Bible is right.
I’m guessing you didn’t go to Princeton.

>>17970159
If assuming the Bible is right entails something the Bible says is wrong, then the Bible is wrong, yes. It's basic logic like you do in high school math. No need for Princeton.

>>17970145
OK
>>17970137
The most serious is the suppression of the knowledge of the true and living God which is implanted in your soul, and the worship of unworthy idols whatever they may be.

>>17970174
Those flames just got hotter.

>>17968442 (OP)
based and true
>>17968449
>>17968459
>>17969958
>>17969992
>>17970025
>>17970145
anons take note, the good book already has a couple of verses about such people
>Proverbs 23:9
>Do not speak to a fool, for he will despise the wisdom of your words.
>Proverbs 29:9
>When a wise man contends with a foolish man, the foolish man either rages or laughs, and there is no rest.

do not waste time on those who do not have ears to hear, for time is short. Instead of throwing your pearls to swine, instead keep them and rejoice for the day of the Son of Man is near.

>>17968442 (OP)
>>17968981
>>17969891
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>>17970524
Images of Jesus are sinful Exodus 20:4 Deuteronomy 4:15-19

>>17968442 (OP)
>our
He can be yours. But you can't speak for anyone else. Each individual chooses freely.

>>17970717
The Ark of the Covenant shows that religious image are not sinful. God bade the Israelites make images of Cherubiim. Therefore I think it reasonable to say that the commandment forbids veneration of the image not images of Jesus.

>>17970784
>The Ark of the Covenant shows that religious image are not sinful.
This is like saying "this very specific command of God shows I can disregard God's laws whenever I feel like it". The ark of the covenant did not nullify the 2nd commandment, nor was God in any way depicted by an image therein.
>God bade the Israelites make images of Cherubiim.
1. Which were not themselves God, and therefore irrelevant. 2. God bade the Israelites, not us. All of the very few images of the old law were tied very closely to the sacrificial system which was abolished in Christ, and there is no command under the new covenant to create any image. Therefore, all religious images are forbidden.

>>17970717
>>17970794
1. that commandment is about not making a image or idol and then worshipping it
2. An image of Jesus is an image of the Son of God, not God the Father Himself and using it in a casual way is obviously not the same as worshipping it
3. Jesus was the physical fulfillment/example of the spirit of the law and the old covenant and the new covenant through Jesus' sacrifice and his example overwrite it: Jesus says that the two greatest commandments to be followed above all else that guarantee you are saved if you have faith in Him are
>to serve and love God with your whole heart, mind and soul
>to love others
therefore I don't think you would be damned by casually posting a pic of Jesus

>All of the very few images of the old law were tied very closely to the sacrificial system which was abolished in Christ, and there is no command under the new covenant to create any image. Therefore, all religious images are forbidden.
the fact that you are approaching the new covenant in this legalistic technical way and pronouncing that anons must be damned if they fail to follow some inferred technicality of the law is Pharisee-tier and the opposite of what Jesus meant or intended and would mean the majority of humanity post-first century isn't saved
in fact, it would even mean that literally the very first Christians including the disciples themselves wouldn't be saved considering that they were drawing religious images on the walls of LITERALLY ST PETER THE DISCIPLES HOUSE according to archaeological evidence

>>17970717
Exodus 20: 4-6
4 You shall not make for yourself an idol or a likeness of anything in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the waters beneath the earth;
5 you shall not bow down before them or serve them. For I, the LORD, your God, am a jealous God, inflicting punishment for their ancestors’ wickedness on the children of those who hate me, down to the third and fourth generation;
6 but showing love down to the thousandth generation of those who love me and keep my commandments.

Deuteronomy 4:15-19
15 Because you saw no form at all on the day the LORD spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire, be strictly on your guard
16 not to act corruptly by fashioning an idol for yourselves to represent any figure, whether it be the form of a man or of a woman,
17 the form of any animal on the earth, the form of any bird that flies in the sky,
18 the form of anything that crawls on the ground, or the form of any fish in the waters under the earth.
19 And when you look up to the heavens and behold the sun or the moon or the stars, the whole heavenly host, do not be led astray into bowing down to them and serving them. These the LORD, your God, has apportioned to all the other nations under the heavens;

I don't think any here are bowing down to the images of Jesus or serving the images. Christians know that Jesus Christ, God the Son rules from Heaven at the right hand of God the Father. He is not within the image.

Colossians 1:15
II. The Preeminence of Christ
His Person and Work
15 He is the image of the invisible God,
the firstborn of all creation.

Jesus Christ, God the Son incarnated in the flesh. The earthly appearance of God the Son goes far beyond what Moses and the Israelites witnessed in the desert. To have an image of Jesus is to keep Him in our thoughts, as we do with all loved ones like parents, grandparents or children. Our photo albums are not idolatry.

Jesus Christ alone is worshiped in the Eucharist, the Blessed Sacrament.

>>17970807
>that commandment is about not making a image or idol and then worshipping it
The ten commandments are the summary of the moral law and each one contains more than one duty. In the second commandment it is declared "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image", and then distinctly it is said "thou shalt not bow down to them nor serve them". This does make it quite clear the images are religious, but it is also their very creation which is forbidden.
>An image of Jesus is an image of the Son of God, not God the Father Himself
Is the Son not the God of Abraham? Is He a different god? Is He no god?
>Jesus' sacrifice and his example overwrite it
There is not one verse of scripture which could be raised to the effect that Jesus sacrificed Himself for our sins, therefore we are permitted to sin. The Lord said "One who teaches you to break the least of these commandments shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven".
>Jesus says that the two greatest commandments to be followed above all else that guarantee you are saved if you have faith in Him
One's guarantee of salvation is solely from the promises of God given in Word and Sacrament, the only guarantee of life from the law is on condition of perfect obedience, without which it only promises a curse unto death. As far as the greatest commandment goes, how loving is it to God to defy His command by misrepresenting His being by capturing it in an image?
>I don't think you would be damned
You will be damned by a single failure of the law, including that of your father Adam. But for one who relies on Christ alone and in no way seeks to be justified by their own works of righteousness Christ is their righteousness before God, and His death on the cross was the full penalty of their sins.

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>>17970807
>the fact that you are approaching the new covenant in this legalistic technical way
Obeying the ten commandments is not "legalistic" or "technical", it is basic Christianity and the entire New Testament takes it for granted.
>pronouncing that anons must be damned
I never said this, I said you shouldn't do it.
>inferred technicality of the law
It's literally the explicit words of God through the prophet Moses.
>they were drawing religious images on the walls of LITERALLY ST PETER THE DISCIPLES HOUSE
There are multiple considerations
1. None of these images described are depictions of any person of the Trinity
2. It is questionable that this was Peter's house
3. If it was Peter's house, that does not imply it was a church
4. If it was Peter's house, there is no reason to assume these etchings were put there during his life
5. The images which are described are both simple graffiti, and simple images which clearly are intended as symbolic representations of salvation in Christ, and are not a proper likeness or simulacrum of anything.

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>>17970810
>I don't think any here are bowing down to the images of Jesus or serving the images
The passage of Deuteronomy serves as a kind of commentary on the 2nd commandment intended to clarify for us that we may not under any circumstances form an image of the Lord, who is by nature infinite and formless, who could not be contained by a body, whom alone is to be worshipped, since by it's nature an image will misrepresent His infinite majesty and insult His divine glory by confining it to a space. Now when God is so misrepresented it will not be long before the creature which is placed in His stead is made the object of His worship by the foolish and wicked. Therefore, He says "since you saw no form in the fire, take heed that you make no image" for God easily could and many times did represent Himself, but in this case set no figure before our fathers' eyes that we may see what we are not permitted to do; even as God often represented Himself to the eyes of His prophets, and especially in the person of Jesus Christ, we do not on that account have license to make an image, since here He made Himself clear it is not permitted in any form, whether men or beasts or celestial bodies. And it was pursuant to this command that Augustine forbad his parishioners even to cast an image of the Lord in their mind's eye.

>>17970810
>The earthly appearance of God the Son goes far beyond what Moses and the Israelites witnessed in the desert.
It also went much further beyond what one does with their grandmother and her photograph. How we are to keep Jesus in our thoughts belongs to His worship, and as such is done properly according to His appointment alone. That which the Lord gave us for a remembrance was not images which differ in as many ways as there are artists, but the sacrament of the Lord's Supper. Nor do we know nor have a means of discovering His exact likeness, unlike the photograph. Nor could it be supposed that the incarnation gives us license to make images of Christ, since 1. scripture never comes to such conclusions 2. God appeared under many visible figures before the incarnation, which I grant unlike the Lord Jesus were not proper to His being, but nevertheless were no less visible than Him, and 3. God assumed flesh to His person in perfect and inseparable union, in one indivisible hypostasis, so that He is true man no less than true God, and we could not say the man was one thing and the God another. Therefore, it is no more possible to depict the man Jesus of Nazareth without depicting God the Son than it is to depict Donald Trump without depicting the president of the United States. Photo albums are not idolatry; they also don't contain an image of God.

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>>17970810
>Jesus Christ alone is worshiped in the Eucharist, the Blessed Sacrament.
There was no greater abuse or abomination in the history of religion than when men took the name of Christ in vain to fall down before a piece of bread. Why would you assure me nobody believes Christ is within an image, as if I would be right to be concerned about that, and then without self-awareness immediately tell me you believe precisely that thing about a piece of bread? Is this not the religion of the Canaanites? This is no sacrament and no Christianity. That the grotesque sacrilege of worshipping a bread god must not be done appears from the following reasons, 1. there is absolutely positively nothing in the entire bible about worshipping the sacrament, not once is it mentioned in Paul's lengthy discussion, nor by any Evangelist's account of the Last Supper, 2. the elements of bread and wine are unchanged, nor is the true body and blood of the Lord in, with or under them, so that all that is in the room is bread and wine, 3. Christ said "an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth". Now under the old law God's worship was fixed to a place, so that if one was to worship God he did so by going up to the temple. But under the new covenant He is to be worshipped in spirit and in truth, which means that as infinite spirit He is to be worshipped spiritually, without respect to place; much less is He now to be worshipped in the Canaanite style, as having His essence contained in an object, as if He lived in a box in the back room and could be carried about by men!

This board is so predictable. You're a jew for calling out jews. Christcuck brain is truly wired to be a slave.

>>17970997

Matthew 26:26-28
26 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, “Take and eat; this is my body.”
27 Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you,
28 for this is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed on behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins.

Mark 14:22-24
22 While they were eating, he took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and gave it to them, and said, “Take it; this is my body.”
23 Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, and they all drank from it.
24 He said to them, “This is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed for many.

Luke 22:17-20
17 Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and said, “Take this and share it among yourselves;
18 for I tell you [that] from this time on I shall not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes.”
19 Then he took the bread, said the blessing, broke it, and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which will be given for you; do this in memory of me.”
20 And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which will be shed for you.

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>>17971113

John 6
35 Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me will never hunger, and whoever believes in me will never thirst.

48 I am the bread of life.
49 Your ancestors ate the manna in the desert, but they died;
50 this is the bread that comes down from heaven so that one may eat it and not die.
51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven; whoever eats this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give is my flesh for the life of the world.”
52 The Jews quarreled among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us [his] flesh to eat?”
53 Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you.
54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day.
55 For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.
56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him.
57 Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me.
58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever.”

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>>17968442 (OP)
Our Lord is God, his Father.

Real

>>17970254
>>17970524
I continue to receive no proof whatsoever that Jesus is God or that the Bible is the word of God or anything of the sort.
Do you believe in things for which there is no evidence? How do you decide to believe in somethings but not others, then?

You worship a dude who was killed for claiming to be the King of Jews.
>The King of Jews
Youre all retarded.

>>17972068
>Do you believe in things for which there is no evidence?
No, but you do.

>>17972170
>I don't believe in things for which there is no evidence.
Right, so since this is true and you also believe that Jesus is God, provide the proof that Jesus is God.

>>17972174
>provide the proof that Jesus is God
NTA, but there is no proof. So, stay in wait-and-see mode until the lightning bolt hits you (it eventually will if you live a moral life and become mentally flexible). At that point YOU will have the "proof" of how divinity works, but won't really be able to share it. It's a personal subjective experience, you can't learn those in classes or from books. Christ is one of the many, many humans who underwent that epiphany. The best news of all is, you're surrounded by a smallish percentage of people in all societies who are in the mode of existence Christ was in. It's possible for anyone to "save" themselves. Christ's moral teaching is a good starting point.

>>17968442 (OP)
Based

>>17969068
From the evil assholes that would drag us down to hell with them

>>17973655
Happy that he saves me from christcucks then.