Thread 17970811

Where can I get a non-kiked version of the Bible? I grew up Catholic however, I have now realized Orthodoxy is the way. When researching different sects, I learned about the masoretic text and how the Jews changed the Old Testament to downplay Jesus. Recently, I have also learned about the council of Jamnia...

I want to purchase a Bible that has 0 Jewish manipulation (of course the Apostles were Jewish but you know what I mean)

I was thinking the Orthodox Study Bible, but that uses the NKJV and I think that might be kiked (I do not know)

Any help? I hate the Jews.

>>17970811 (OP)
>I have now realized Orthodoxy is the way
Enjoy Hell!

Maybe start by visiting your priest what resources you should use to read scripture instead of consulting random laymen online.
Also antisemitism is retarded and the threat the Jews pose to the faith is substantially smaller than what Muslims and communists pose.

>>17970811 (OP)
Sounds like you don't go to church. Because an orthodox church should be able to tell you where to get one or give you one

>>17970811 (OP)
KJV

>>17970830
I do, I purchased and have read "The Law of God" as well as a book on the catechism. I was just wondering if anyone else had any insight as the Jews seem to infiltrate a lot.

>>17970856
Well if you think jews infiltrated everything then what's the difference between orthodox and Roman catholic

>>17970821
The Jews hate and killed Jesus, then went on to rewrite the Old Testament to change the prophecy of him coming. Modern day Jews are demonic and the Talmud teaches to actively hurt anyone who is not Jewish. Of course, most Jews are fine people just as most muslims, but that is due to their own lack of knowledge of their faith.

>>17970858
The Orthodox follow the Septuagint, which was written before Jesus. Of course, I agree with Orthodoxy for many more reasons than that (theosis, no purgatory), I genuinely believe that the papacy has been infiltrated by the Jews.

>>17970811 (OP)
>I grew up Catholic however, I have now realised Orthodoxy is the way.
how's 9th grade going?

>>17970864
Most Jews are atheist and couldn't care less about persecuting Christians. They only do that in Israel because they want an ethnostate, not because of any real religious conviction. Compare this to Muslims and communists who actively work to try and undermine the beliefs of Christians and work to encourage apostasy. Antisemitism doesn't help with the proliferation of the gospel and is a waste of time.

>>17970811 (OP)
>non-kiked bible
They wrote the bible.

>>17970811 (OP)
>>17970864
Nobody is convinced you've ever actually spent any significant amount of time in a brick and mortar church btw.

>>17970811 (OP)
>where can I get a non kiked version of a kike book?

>>17970811 (OP)
Impossible

Ok, I'll bite. What evidence do you have that "the Jews" changed the Old Testament? Which ancient, pre-0AD versions of the Old Testament have you read to make such a comparison?

>>17970811 (OP)
>downplay Jesus
How would Orthodoxy help in this regard? They actually play up Mary instead by making a case for her also having an immaculate conception, giving her additional feasts, and then making up a story how her body disappears from the tomb after 3 days (and ties her to Aphrodite by making mention of a girdle, which is known to be her tool).

The most non-kiked version of Christianity is unironically Gnosticism, they even say that the Old Testament Jewish God is evil

>where can i find non-jewish literature about the jewish desert storm god?
Lmaoing @ ur life

>OP actually crawls out of its pit and goes to an actual church for once in its loathsome life
>How can I help you my son?
>Yeah yeah yeah I heard that like Orthodoxy is like, based and trad. The anons on 4chan sent me!
>What is a 4chan my child?
>It's a based and trad Internet image board originally dedicated to Japanese schoolgirl cartoons and you're never more than 2 clicks away from hard-core tranny porn and Mexican cartel torture videos! It's so FUCKEN based!
>......... get off the premises

>>17971394
People on this site need jesus and the church would call him courageous for showing up and starting to redeem himself

>>17971658
>redeem himself
>yeah yeah, so when do I get handed my demure obedient tradwife who's also a complete psychopath in the bedroom, mister father or your holiness or whatever?

>>17971674
Right, presumably, by walking the path of christ you would realize that line of thought is wrong

>>17971263
Look into the masoretic text which was curated by a group of Jewish scribes (Masoretes) between the 7th and 10th centuries AD. This is the basis for almost all modern Protestant translations of the OT (including the King James version) and is the official text of Rabbinic Judaism.

Compared to the Septuagint, there are many major differences such as:

>Isaiah 7:14:
>Septuagint: "Therefor the Lord himself will give you a sign. Behold, the VIRGIN shall conceive and bear a son..."
>Masoretic Text: "Therefor the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, the YOUNG WOMAN shall conceive, and bear a son..."

There are many other of these changes as well and can be especially seen when looking when the OT is quoted in the NT. The NT will most of the time use the exact same vocabulary from the Septuagint. The vocab will be different if comparing to the masoretic texts

Another Example:
>Luke 3:4-6 (NT)
>"... And all flesh shall see the salvation of God."'"

Now, when compared to the OT:
>Isaiah 40:5
>Masoretic Text:
>And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together; for the mouth of the LORD has spoken.
>Septuagint:
>And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see the salvation of God; for the Lord has spoken.

>>17971394
>>17971658

I have been going to an orthodox church for 3 years, of course I need to be going more than I should, but as a student in graduate school, sometimes it is difficult. I have read "The Law of God" by Seraphim Slobodskoy, as well as The Bible , but my NT version was the NKJV and the masoretic text for the OT. I am trying to look for a Bible that I can give my protestant friend who is interested in the church.

>>17971379
Gnosticism is retarded. However, I do believe that the "god" many of the current Jews follow is evil. BTW I am not talking about your Jewish friend who doesn't practice, I mean the rabbinistic Jews.

>>17971719
unfortunately this is one field the catholics really dominate
the orthodox study bibles leave a lot to be desired
the Ignatius press Catholic study bible dunks on everything else in the field

>>17971394
>>17971658

I think that >>17971394 belief that Orthodoxy is some "4chan" religion is actually interesting. He is almost admitting that Orthodoxy is better than other religions as people on 4chan discuss so many other religions and I actually see more posts about Atheism, Catholicism, and Paganism. He seems to be granting it a special status, almost as if it is a threat to his own worldview.

>>17971714
Have you personally looked at these texts though?

>>17971729
Interesting, I will have to look more into this. Thanks for actually giving some advice lol

>>17971739
Yes, but I have only spent a couple weeks on them. I am still trying to learn. That's why I made this post.

>>17971738
>thread about terminally online goblin realising orthodoxy "is the way"
>reply about how if he actually went to a orthodox church they'd be horrified at his repugnant practices
>attempt at psychoanalysis
Swing and a miss

>I hate the Jews.
You have fun playing pretend with the Greeks, enjoy yourself, we don't need you

>>17971658
>the church would call him courageous for showing up
How embarrassing

>>17971738
I don't think orthodoxy is a "4chan" religion. There are just a number of people larping as orthodox and trad catholics online.

>>17971762
Confession is a private affair anon.

>>17970811 (OP)
>can you guys please hook me up with an anti-jewish holy book
>of a religion with explicitly jewish origins

>>17971772
You wouldn't know that from all the larpers on here

>>17971775
And is inherently anti modern Jewish

>>17971777
Yeah thats why I'm suspicious of posters like OP

>>17970818
>>17971714
skip to ~20min in this vid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWKHUvSsjNQ
then watch this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyYc2vaQGoA

The protestants have corrupted the text.
All verses in the pic use the word tradition, the prots have changed it to teaching in Paul's letters.

NEVER FORGET:
Fiath without works is dead.

>>17971868
This has to be a bait post.

>>17971870
you're a muslim

>>17971872
I'll take that as a yes. Try harder next time

>>17971870
>>17971873
stop corrupting the Bible
can you read Greek?
read the Greek text in the passages mentioned in the pic

>>17971816
Explain how?

>>17971880
Because they reject christ who spoke against the pharissees.

>>17970811 (OP)
>I have now realized Orthodoxy is the way
cringe larping religion shopper, you will never be greek or russian or syrian or serbian or bulgarian, get fucked loser

>>17971879
Can you read English?
https://biblehub.com/2_thessalonians/2-15.htm
All the formal equivalence Protestant translations render it as tradition. The reason the NIV puts it as "teachings we passed on to you" isn't because of your schizo conspiracy theory, it's because it's a dynamic equivalence translation. And in that translation philosophy it is a correct rendering, because that's what Paul is talking about.
Always take a step back when cathodox cite 2 Thess 2:15 and remember that the argument is literally "this verse contains the word tradition, therefore it's ok to worship pictures".

>>17971892
Going against your own church's teachings

>>17970811 (OP)
The denomination doesn't matter. The translation doesn't matter. Hating the jews doesn't matter. Only Jesus Christ matters. Cling to Christ and the word and nothing else while the world collapses. Love God with your whole heart, mind and spirit, and love one another and have pure simple faith like a child that Jesus gave his life and rose again for your sins and cling to it in spite of anything else. This is the full extent of what he taught and what is required. Do not become attached to anything else but this or you are floundering and lost, still being attached to the world and wandering down twisting sideways paths that confuse you. This is true faith. Everything else is distraction.

>>17971992
that’s what he’s trying to do
which translation of the bible do you recommend?

>>17971918
he's not wrong though. you will never be a based conquistador or whatever jargon it is you ortholarpers use

>>17971756
You’re quick to call “swing and a miss,” but all you’ve done is step up to the plate and swing wildly with nothing but ad hominems. If anyone "missed," it’s you because you never actually made contact with anything useful in the first place. Thanks for the bumps btw

I am asking specifically on this forum because I feel a lot of other Christian forums are very against antisemitism

>>17971879
No nigga I can't fucking read Greek

>>17972332
Who brought up crusaders. Saying that to be orthodox you need to be a certain ethnic group is false

>>17971892
I am Russian though....

>>17971992
I enjoy your response, but I am trying to become closer to Christ by avoiding rewritten versions of the Bible that undermine him.

>>17970871
This is correct. There is no "Torah" older than LXX, which was written entirely in Koine Greek, just like the New Testament.

"Judaism" is an Alexandrian pastiche, fanfic, LARP cult that simply stole entire passages and stories from other cultures verbatim and called it their own. Many such cases.

All of the "greatest" Jewish thinkers of that era, Josephus, Philo, etc.....all wrote in Greek, as well.

Yes, the Catholic Church has been compromised for centuries. They even had a Lady Pope who gave birth in the middle of a parade, ffs.

>>17972541
Yes, so do you have any reading recommendations?

Also, if you have any readings against orthodoxy, let me know do I can see multiple sides.

>>17970811 (OP)
>Where can I get a non-kiked version of the Bible?

>>17972548
Yes no shit the OT was written by Jews. The difference is that there are versions written BEFORE Christ that pointed to him being the messiah (the Septuagint) and versions that have been made after Christ by Jews who deny Christ.

>>17972552
You are missing the point. I think most people who are Jewish and Muslim today hardly even follow their religion, they were just raised that way due to their cultural heritage. At least in America it seems to be that way...

>>17972560
So why would any Christian use the altered OT?

Orthodox 'Christians' will read and cite anything except the actual Bible itself

>>17970811 (OP)
>Where can I get a non-kiked version of the Bible?
Read the Septuagint, which was written in Greek, which is the liturgical language of the Orthodox Church.

>>17972754
Again, if OP thinks that the Jews infiltrated everything, then what use is it reading Orthodox writings?

>>17973048
>Again, if OP thinks that the Jews infiltrated everything
OP doesn't believe that. He's just talking about Bible translations. Jews actually despise the LXX because it contradicts the Masoretic text.

>>17972541
>he believes the pope joan myth
anon…

Look up the Isaiah 9:6 MT vs LXX

>>17970811 (OP)
>non-kiked version of the Bible
Try a reconstruction of Marcion's Apostolikon. That's about as non-kiked as it gets. Maybe https://www.theveryfirstbible.org/

>>17972750
bruh check this comment retard:

>>17971714

>>17973130
Okay, I looked into this website more and it links to a marcionitechurch.org, which has a "Prayer for the Vaxxed" in its table of contents, in case anyone who took the vaccine wants to apologize to God for it and pray for healing.
https://www.marcionitechurch.org/Prayer-for-the-Vaxxed.html

Seems awkward now that there's a few years distance from that without any mass deaths.

>>17970811 (OP)
>Non-kiked version of the Bible
Who’s gonna tell him?

>>17972572
St. Jerome argued that the hebrew truth was more important than the older Greek text, so he wrote a Latin translation from the masoretic texts and created the Vulgate.

Then, during the protestant reformation, Martin Luther and William Tyndale wanted to "return to the sources" so when they looked at the Vulgate and found it was originally the masoretic text and used that shit. Because the Jews hated Jesus so much (he literally ended their religion), the masorites made sure to preserve and duplicate their version of the OT as much as possible to pretty much oversaturate the market with their own Jew version.

Before the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in the mid-20th century, people believed the Septuagint was a faulty translation but the DSS actually confirm that the Septuagint is correct.

>>17972541
>Lady Pope
There is really no historical evidence to support this claim at all. You should really stop posting on this board and stop larping as a Christian as well

The bible is a Jewish story written by Jews about Jews.

>>17970811 (OP)
>Where can I get a non-kiked version of the Bible?
I kneel to peak retardation.

>>17973130
*Evangelion & Apostolikon

>>17972509
>I came here because I knew you'd tell me what I want to hear
>No, I don't treat it as the 4chan religion, why do you ask?

>>17972522
And that requires using hate filled slurs against jews?

>>17974355
No, I just do not like them.

>>17974342
Huh?

This post is just some retarded attempt at trying to make orthodoxy as le final 'hecking based' and 'trad-erino' option

You should learn to love Jews.
I recommend The Septuagint with Apocrypha: Greek and English.