Thread 17971435

How were inferior Africans building this when most of Europe lived in mud huts?

>>17971448
Irrelevant you seething hick. Do you resign the argument that supposedly inferior blacks created greater civilizations and architecture than whites who lived in mud huts?

>>17971457
Black Africans in africa did not even invent the wheel on their own.

>>17971464
Wrong subhuman neanderthal

>>17971485
>>17971475
Oldest chariot remains are from the Sintashta culture next to the Ural mountains.
>muh pic cuz
The introduction of the horse and chariot to Egypt and Africa from Eurasia, sorry OG bro crip 4 life BTFO'd
>>17971435 (OP)
This is Egyptian, not kang

>>17971435 (OP)
iron metallurgy seems to have spread out of the area with this particular pottery at the same time as Berbers arrived from the north. It's also found in the Nok culture.

>>17971495
Its me
Since I know our friend is a provocateur, and I know his profile, I'll explain: Roulette pottery spread from this area (in gray) with iron metallurgy in the 1st millennium BC, at the same time as horse-mounted Berbers were arriving in the area. Source:
https://www.academia.edu/19766533/Histoire_du_d%C3%A9cor_%C3%A0_la_roulette_en_Afrique_subsaharienne?s=09
>>17971490
he will say that using some bizarre semantics now, get ready

>>17971435 (OP)
Haha, how cute! Africans didn't know how to create decorative patterns before the Europeans arrived. This decorative motif is common in Europe, on iron railings, gates, etc. Its use in metalwork dates back centuries and has origins in classical antiquity. It was likely introduced to West Africa by European traders, and they adopted it and gave it their own meaning. How original!
>kerma
Egyptian, not "nubian". In 2500 BC Nubian 'civilization' consisted of mudhut villages The earliest pastoralists in East Africa had Eurasian ancestry (c. 40%), li

>>17971435 (OP)
>we wuz kangs
Lol, no.

>>17971502
Forgot the pic
But you can Check-out

>>17971490
>Oldest chariot remains are from the Sintashta culture next to the Ural mountains.
I never denied that europeans created chariots, just Africans never independently developing wheels as the image disproves. Ox carts and wheels were independently developed before any serious Eurasian influence.
>This is Egyptian, not kang
Kerma was indigenous Nubian civilization and there was nothing in Northern or Central Europe that matched its architecture during its zenith.
>>17971502
>Locked behind a paywall
Iron was developed by blacks in Africa go seethe, some of the earliest areas they popped up in were forests inhabited by Sub-Saharan black Africans. Berbers have little to do with it and you aren't a Berber either way.

>>17971535
>just Africans never independently developing wheels as the image disproves
That's exactly what happened, they didn't invent wheels or carriages independently. According to the account, the vehicle was built by Europeans.
1/2

>>17971509
None of what you said is true. Kerma was independent Nubian civilization and this is corroborated by every serious source, retard hick. That Eurasian ancestry of Kerma you ramble on about is overestimated and reflected maternally.
>Africans didn't know how to create decorative patterns before the Europeans arrived
The statue is 300 years before European contact

>>17971548
2/2
>nubian civilization
https://kerma.ch/staticj/www.kerma.ch/index/index-55.html?option=com_content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=55
Nubians were Mesolithic hunter-gathers living in tents and rock shelters in 8000 BC. In 2500 BC Nubian 'civilization' consisted of mudhut villages, The (small) Nubian pyramids were only built 2000+ years later after Nubia had been completely colonized by Egypt.
https://www.academia.edu/34257254/Aux_origines_des_pharaons_noirs

>>17971551
>None of what you said is true. Kerma was independent Nubian civilization
Hes correct, see>>17971554
first Nubian pyramid was built almost 2000 years after the first Egyptian pyramids. And there are none in sub-Saharan Africa.

>>17971548
Related pic

>>17971535
actually no, most of the buildings, as well as the chariots you used, were used by Berbers to conquer blacks in the south

>>17971554
Nubians are an admixed group with gene-flow from outside of Africa … The strongest signal of admixture into Nubian populations came from Eurasian populations and was likely quite extensive

>>17971562
I know that, group A was even more Caucasian

>>17971535
>Iron was developed by blacks
Cope, lib bro Kissi came from this, Garamante iron metallurgy is attested earlier just to the north at Timbuktu metallurgy seems to have spread out of the area with this particular pottery at the same time as Berbers arrived from the north. It's also found in the Nok culture.

OP obliterated LMAO

>>17971554
Meanwhile the celts:

>>17971579
Ancient Paris

>>17971573
something that kangz didn't even dream of developing for most of their history, being stuck in northern areas with a lot of foreign influence, until the aryan conquest

>>17971579
Germanics:

>>17971585
Pretty cool

>>17971560
>>17971573
>>17971574
This depicts the wheel, not metallurgy. You can't show anything defending your point on metallurgy because it's nonsense.
Your precious Berbers were non existent in African technological development and the ones you Kang sexually enslaved your women
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade
Every post of you kanging Berbers, you defend the enslavement of millions of your people by their hands. Sad!

>>17971591
>You can't show anything defending your point on metallurgy because it's nonsense.
I showed
see here>>17971573
iron metallurgy seems spread at the as Berbers arrived from the north
kerma is Egyptian, and the vast majority of African structures we have are foreign i.e. Berbers or Europeans

>>17971557
This is one example of Europeans creating wheeled transportation lol. There are other reports of carts independently created.
>In 1864 CE, a European account detailed Dahomey carriages "'of home, or native manufacture', including 'a blue-green shandridan, with two short flagstaffs attached to the front
>At Tsodilo Hills, in Botswana, white painted rock art likely dating from c. 1852 AD may depict a wagon and wagon wheel.

>>17971594
>>17971591
I'm not defending the Berbers, quite the opposite. If even the MENAoids people can be more civilized than you and your entire history, it's something that should be remembered frequently for the common good. And I'm no longer a 12-year-old boy; history isn't a soccer game where we pick our favorites and create a narrative around them. The facts must be attested, even if it hurts your feelings now. You and your people have been humiliated on this topic and have no more arguments. Was it worth it? How do you feel? Just apologize, and we'll stop humiliating you. Apologize, kid.

>>17971594
>iron metallurgy seems spread at the as Berbers arrived from the north
That's only your assumption retard. Every source in academia denies your nonsense

>>17971554
Nobody said anything about pyramids pigcel. The facts are: Kerma was African independent civilization, at the very least paternally and their 40 percent Eurasian maternal DNA comes from Eurasian women being dominated. Brutal...

>>17971595
>Dahomey
It receives a lot of European influence. The red coral worn in Benin came from the Mediterranean and was introduced by the Portuguese in the 15th century, for example.
The superstition was so pathetic. The Benin/Edo people thought that the Portuguese were supernatural "messengers of Olokun," and the chariot was transferred by Europeans.
a description of "city", does not seem as impressive as you would have us believe
https://archive.org/details/bim_early-english-books-1641-1700_africa-being-an-accurat_dapper-olfert_1670/page/n607/mode/2up?q=Benyn

>>17971607
>The facts are: Kerma was African independent civilization
No, see>>17971554
Its Egyptian, not nubian
Kerma was a mudhut village in 2500 bc.
>>17971608
Here i mean carriages btw

>>17971614
>>17971607
And to give the last gasp of your thread, despite all the embarrassment you're causing here, these photos you posted>>17971435 (OP) are dated from 1750-1480 BC or later, which means they are after the Egyptian colonization of the region, not Nubian.
I'm presenting you with source after source and you haven't read any of them? I'll accept it as a concession.
https://books.google.com.br/books/about/The_Oxford_History_of_the_Ancient_Near_E.html?id=Hr9qEAAAQBAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gb_mobile_entity&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&gboemv=1&ovdme=1&gl=BR&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false

OP obliterated again
OP, listen to this guy, there's wisdom in this post>>17971600 There's nothing else to do. You've been obliterated here. It's not Xiiter with his pan-African profile of posting half-truths and lies. Just ask us for forgiveness, Know your place ok?

>>17971621
there is a xiiter account here called lib bro, i assume maybe it is the OP??

>>17971614
>>17971619
These were all independent developments with very few Egyptian buildings, even in 1750 BC.
1750 BC Kerma easily wipes all European architecture other than Rome and Greece. Nothing, not even Celts can compare.
>>17971621
Stop coping, all of what I said is true and you know it. Kerma developed most of these things independently, had insignificant Eurasian admixture (YDNA > MTDNA) and no Central or Northern European civilization could compare with their technologically advanced military

>>17971619
kids, i have to pick up my girlfriend, i don't have time for games now, thanks for the "debate" (massacre?) see you later

>>17971435 (OP)
Northern Europe maybe, but the Mycenaean culture of the Hellenic peninsula was similarly advanced around the same time. Not to mention that the Kerma Culture was more likely than not a breakaway society from the Egyptians that for the most part copied their architecture and style of governance:

>>17971435 (OP)
And yet, despite being so superior, and having literal thousands of years of advantage, they still ended up being completely and entirely outpaced by europeans.

Isn't that kinda sad?

>>17971457
Mumu ogun thunderstrike you and your family!

Their trade networks are the main reason they had advanced architecture and Meroitic script, while Europe had just entered the Iron Age.

>>17971435 (OP)
Niggers didn't build that.

>>17971581
i recently played through seige of paris in assassins creed valhalla and that central area was a pain in the ass.