Thread 17972916

>"All men are created equal"
>Enslaves and rapes Black people
>Steals land from the Native Americans

Is this the biggest hypocrite in American history?

>>17972916 (OP)
No because those aren't people

Jefferson was basically a Nazi

>>17972916 (OP)
Until basically yesterday, "people" only meant "white people".

>>17972929
A freemasonic hero to jewry?

>>17972936
The problem with revolutionaries like Jefferson is they're naive

>>17972916 (OP)
It's a white trait
>claim to be loving universalist Christians
>hold insanely tribalistic prejudices
>claim to be civilized
>engage in mob violence and barbarism

>>17972940
From Jefferson's perspective the rights of man were better upheld without the Romans. Yeah, it gets tribal

>>17972916 (OP)
>>17972940
You're making up claims and misreading the text. Jefferson and men like him never at any point claimed that negroes and redskins were the equals of white men, and indeed we have innumerable quotes from the Founders where they state precisely the opposite. When people say "everyone" they rarely mean every soul on earth, and "all men" here referred only to the Western society he was familiar with. There is no hypocrisy here. You need to realize this wasn't a time where people thought of nonwhites 24/7, they were generally easy to ignore.

>>17972958
Jefferson defended a slave with a natural rights argument and lost in court.
He did believe in all men being created equal but did not believe they all were completely equal in all attributes because he wasn't a lying idiot.
He was not responsible for slavery and wanted to phase it out and deported them. His biggest problem was not having a worthy successor.
If the South had a Jefferson during the Civil War he would have come to an agreement with Lincon. Stopped the war and deported the slaves.
The Souths biggest problem was thinking they were going to be some 10,000 year slaveristocracy.

Woodrow Wilson did nearly the same thing but with segregation.

>>17972916 (OP)
When did /his/ become some weird mix of Critical Race Theory and Christcuckery

>>17973028
oh the marxist stuff comes in waves

>>17973028
It's either /pol/schizos, third worldists, or sinophile tankies that are constantly shitting up this fucking board. At this point I don't even mind the mindless Christ glazing, at least that's more ontopic and the christian schizos aren't nearly as annoying imo.

>>17973028
When the Jews and brown people found this board and began to moderate it too

>>17972958
You're talking as if black people only lived way on the other side of the world from Jefferson when he had them in his own house.

>>17972970
If your only knowledge of Abraham Lincoln came from this board you would believe he had more plans for reshaping the demographics of North America than Hitler had for Europe, when in reality his chief legacy is placing blacks on a level of political equality with Americans.

>>17972970
mass deportations of black americans was never a realistic goal, especially by the 1860s. reparations would've been easier at that point

>>17972916 (OP)
But that's how life is, white people invent something and then the human rights and technologies trickle down to savage barbarian subhumans who deserve nothing, who create nothing, who only consume and consume, and consume, and in a just world they would all be enslaved and castrated at worst and exterminated at best.

>>17972921
fpbp

>>17973390

white people dont invent, they inherit.
They are mere subjects

secondly, america is stageplay scripted from beginning to end, these actors you call politicians and presidents are fraternity members providing a larp to the public

some are aware of the larger picture, most arent, because the white man is simply a nesting golem made to substantiate the great alchemical drama considering that the world is a stage afterall

>>17973196
Whether due to politics or his own belief he really did support "colonizing" the slaves somewhere else. It was likely political. I have extreme doubts Northerners wholeheartedly supported living with the former slaves.

>>17973028
/his/ is not a hive mind. Also there are discord groups dedicated to shipping narratives all over the website. Trust no one.

>>17972970
That and the fact that they wanted to fight a war based on chivalry in 1861, not 1561. The south had 1/5 the railroads, 1/10th the steel and 1/15th the navy the Union had.

True to form the south actually was winning the war for the first few years until the slow steady march of mass industrialization crushed the south.

Like many wars whoever can out mass produce the other eventually, slowly wins, WWII and WWI was the same formula.

>>17973382
Didn't Lincoln and even US Grant in the late 1870s want to deport them, Grant even offered to annex the Dominican Republic, I think he fell 1 vote short.

>>17973491
Case in point Andrew Carnegie's first fortune in what would become U.S. Steel and the richest man in the world, were war contracts for rail ties, the Union could just simply mass produce weapons, artillery, ammo, gunships, armor etc. and the south was still riding around in horses rattling sabres. poor bastards.

>>17972916 (OP)
nope
blacks really were barely human back then
read the books

>>17973780
part 2

>>17973784
part 3
deal with it

>>17972958
>"all men"
It means white MEN and didn't include white females either

>>17972921
This.

>>17972958
According to the Founding Fathers, most white men shouldn't even be allowed to vote, since this was originally restricted to land owning whites males, and most people in the colonies and early US were not landowners, they lived on Chartered land, because founding stock held a great deal of influence in early American politics. But one thing you retards always miss is the fact that they also believed that rules like this one shouldn't be written in stone but should be open to revision. Most of the Founding Fathers were abolitionists who, while not supporting an immediate release of African slaves, did support a gradual release of African slaves.

This is even reflected upon in early abolitionist legislation, such as the New York Act for the Gradual Abolition of Slavery of 1799.

>>17973780
>>17973784
>>17973786
Apparently you win the argument whenever nobody reads the unrelated stuff you're spamming?

>>17973177
When you say "people" you are not referring to your washing machine and automatic garage door.

>>17973495
i know there were plans made by several parties, but they never went anywhere because the idea is ridiculous after 100s of years spent in the usa

>>17973914
Every time I go into my garage I greet by garage door opener to let it know it's appreciated

>>17973875
you remaining dumb and ignorant is a personal decision kek
>otherwise
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>another

>>17972970
>If the South had a Jefferson during the Civil War he would have come to an agreement with Lincon
Lincoln would've just told him to get the fuck out like he told every single southern diplomat jefferson davis sent to him for the exact purpose you're describing

>>17974559
Lincoln was not a smart man

>>17974558
I actually sat down and read some of the parts left out of this retarded, unreadable mess of yours.

>>17974579
the north had more warm bodies then the south had bullets, lincoln never really had a reason to talk with southern diplomats anyway. The stupidest thing lincoln ever did was go to a public theater when more then half the country hated his guts

>>17974584
I read once he was wasting away from the stress and slept in the theater so it must have been a place of comfort for him. At one point anecdotally people thought he was so gaunt that he started hacking a log on the ground to try and prove to people how fit he was

>>17972958
>they were generally easy to ignore
I wish we could back. Have you heard any of the "music" these non whites make?

>>17974584
>more than half the country
>Assassination plot by one fucking guy
Lincoln was seen as a hero, he won reelection because the Union states supported him.

>>17975538
He had control of the media, lol

>>17973436
It was his own belief for sure, I don't deny that Lincoln did not see blacks as equal or Americans and he made some (incredibly lackluster) efforts to colonize them elsewhere. But unfortunately it all came to nothing and his flirting with the cause of abolition ended up being his most important legacy. All he wanted to do was collect his beloved tariffs, but he ended up turning the whole country into New England as a consequence.
>I have extreme doubts Northerners wholeheartedly supported living with the former slaves.
Doesn't matter. They all got duped and their war effort was subverted by radical abolitionism.

>>17975698
A person can support ending slavery but be equally as opposed to social equality or racial integration. That's a perfectly coherent position because the allowing of slavery is what originally brought those slaves in from outside to begin with.