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Anonymous No.17976285 >>17976327 >>17976382 >>17976414 >>17976534 >>17977970 >>17977997
What were the most valuable colonies that historical empires ever had?
This question isn't limited to 15th-19th century European colonialism. Any empire from any region or historical era counts as well.
Anonymous No.17976327 >>17977755
>>17976285 (OP)
The dutch seizing the norwegian market.
Much of their timber and deckhands were norwegian, to the point where New Amsterdam technically was norwegian and thus the english naming it New York after stealing it from the Dutch was incredibly based.
>discover Vinland, check
>help build the first colony on manhattan, check
>Jorvik reborn
Anonymous No.17976382 >>17976411 >>17976546
>>17976285 (OP)
For the British it was Malaya, Singapore and probably Hong Kong. They provided important materials(rubber, minerals), had important strategic location or served as trade and outsourcing hubs, respectively. Obviously Suez as well but Egypt in general was a bit meh, you could just buy cotton from them without having to spend effort policing the colony.
For the French Algeria for sure. Not because of some particular material boon(oil fields weren't exploited until after ww2) but because the extent of colonisation of it's northern coast, in many ways it was the Lebensraum for them. Indochina was also really profitable because, you guessed it - rubber.
German and Italian colonies were worthless no idea why they even bothered.
For the Portuguese, throughout their existence Goa and Macau provided the best bang for the buck. They were never really contested by the locals outside of few exceptions and they just printed money by being export ports. Brazil required lots of people to settle it and Portugal never had enough of people in general which stunted its development.
While everyone thinks of the big gold and silver colonies when we think about Spain, their Carribbean sugar producing possessions like Cuba were just as valuable if not more because sugar had lots of uses and gold especially at the time was just a token to exchange for other goods.
The Dutch were probably the masters of getting lots of value for relatively little when it came go colonisation. Indonesia became a goldmine due to oil, Curacao and other Carribbean colonies were consistently useful sugar producers, New York/Amsterdam was again very profitable.
Anonymous No.17976411
>>17976382
>German and Italian colonies were worthless no idea why they even bothered.
As you said for france, it was their lebensraum. Africa was thought of in the same way south america was, a continent to be cleared of natives and settled by europeans, italians explicitly wanted to settle tunisia, libya and at least the horn of africa, germans wanted to do the same in tanzania, northern namibia and zambia, plus maybe portuguese angola and mozambique if they could get their hands on it.
Anonymous No.17976414 >>17976418 >>17977739
>>17976285 (OP)
At face value, the Spanish gold mines printed money for the state.
In the long-run, the English colonies in North America for creating a friendly trade partner (except in 1812).
Anonymous No.17976418
>>17976414
*and cementing English as the global language
Anonymous No.17976534
>>17976285 (OP)
Didnt Haiti account for a third of the state revenue of France
Anonymous No.17976543
Banda islands
Anonymous No.17976546
>>17976382
Germans and Italians were formed late and only got on the colonization business with the Berlin conference. And Bismarck famously did not want to engage in colony business as there was no point, but the people wanted the national glory of having colonies.
Anonymous No.17977739 >>17977808
>>17976414
So for Spain it was Mexico? Or were any other colonies more profitable? They seemed to care quite a bit for the Netherlands.
Anonymous No.17977755
>>17976327
But Norway itself was never colonised by the Dutch
Anonymous No.17977808 >>17977993
>>17977739
Mexico and Peru were probably the most profitable colonies in history. They were unique in they directly sent massive amounts of physical money to the Spanish government and cost relatively little to garrison and administer. Netherlands was wealthy but like in most other colonies, most of the taxation was spent locally and once the war started Army of Flanders became a money black hole.
Anonymous No.17977970
>>17976285 (OP)
egypt for rome
fed the empire for centuries
Anonymous No.17977993
>>17977808
Shoutout to Phillipines for the gold-spice exchange
Anonymous No.17977997
>>17976285 (OP)
Corfu seemed pretty damn important to Venice
Anonymous No.17978932
Barbados was essential to the triangular trade, and produced enormous profits from enslaved labor.