Thread 17981529

can't take Christianity seriously anymore after finding this out

This is overly complicated. The father of Jesus was Joseph.

Doesn't matter, even if the act was carnal it's the spirit that defines the man, and Jesus had a divine spirit

>>17981529 (OP)
Jesus was Phoenician instead of a Jew? Good.

>>17981529 (OP)
This was said by Celsus because he is asshurt that pagan temples are being abandoned and converted into Christian churches

>>17981529 (OP)
OP is possibly Indian, this argument is repeated by them every time, if he is not Indian (you are), at least change the argument

>>17981568
How could a virtuous man not protest the replacement of his culture and entire people thoughts being violently replaced an inferior, barbarian semitic one?

>>17981529 (OP)
Matt 23:2-3 also has Jesus confirm this story as true.

>>17981652
the krishna story is the same as the jesus story. krish-ianity. tammuz was OG.

>>17981652
Bingo

>>17981529 (OP)
>>17981538
>>17981557
>>17981665

Enjoy Hell.

>>17981693
Christcucks screech about hell like autistic retards flailing in a padded room, convinced their imaginary torture pit means anything to people with a functioning brain. “You’ll burn forever!” they whine, like a seething school shooter fantasizing about revenge on everyone who laughed at them. It’s the ultimate cope—a limp-dicked, powerless faggot’s way of pretending he has some cosmic authority when in reality, he’s just another pathetic wage slave rotting in mediocrity. They can’t win arguments, they can’t defend their beliefs, they can’t even convert people—all they can do is shriek about some cartoon-tier afterlife that exists only in their broken, servile minds. Hell isn’t real, but their desperation sure as fuck is.

Nobody fears their inbred retard cult’s punishment fantasy because nobody outside their incest-ridden trailer park takes it seriously. The idea that some divine Jew-on-a-stick is going to tantrum and throw people into a fire pit for eternity like a cosmic toddler proves Christianity isn’t a religion, it’s a fucking mental illness. If hell was real, they wouldn’t need to spam their empty threats like a battered housewife trying to convince herself her husband still loves her. But they do, because deep down, even they know they got played. That’s why they repeat the same retarded script—not because they believe it, but because they’re too fucking weak to face the fact that they’ve wasted their entire lives kneeling to an imaginary sky kike who isn’t coming to save them.

>>17981529 (OP)
Interesting fun fact: This theory was used by Hitler and the Nazis as a justification to persecute the Jews on the grounds of blasphemy

You’re exactly the type of religious Jew/atheist (same thing at this point) who is on his way to hell like his Pharisee ancestors, not the kind of child of God-like Jew who had to suffer from all your faulty mistakes and decisions in the past

>>17981693
>you will experience pain for infinite amount of time by an all-loving god who suspiciously resembles chronos all because you made an oopsie in your first finite experience of the inifinite. Nothing personal, kid.

>>17981529 (OP)
>Don't even have independent period sources that jesus existed
>This is the name of the affair/rapist that fathered him, trust me guys

>>17981652
this

>>17981655
Easy: they weren't being forced
Rome got Christianized without violence

You may not like the change, but you are not the main character. Everyone gets to decide their life, and they want to serve Jesus

>>17981751
>Easy: they weren't being forced
>Rome got Christianized without violence
>
>You may not like the change, but you are not the main character. Everyone gets to decide their life, and they want to serve Jesus


>Christianity being made the state religion and pagan temples and communities being violently sacked, defaced, and persecuted isn't violent

Never forget that Rome was christianized due to women and elite infiltrators whispering semitic lies into the roman aristocracy. Later rhe christianity used this instituonal power to enforce their religion on the entire population.
This despite the yeshuvan bemoaning his unjust persecution for centuries. If only the great white Roman man wasnt so tolerant, then this jewish cancer wouldve been cauterized truly.

No learned man in Rome ever took the cult of yeshu seriously .

>>17981762
The hell are you on?
Rome has always been intolerant of foreign religions and purged out druids and the cult of Mithra

Christianity survived because the Romans, just like Christ, and the Roman tactics proved ineffective

>>17981529 (OP)
>>17981538
Pantera was Magdalene's father, whom was in Galilee at the time because he was the bodyguard of Juba II when babysitting Gaius Caesar, Augustus' grandson and heir.
Jesus was adopted away to this Joseph of Galilee's Judean allies so that Juba II's brief marriage with Glaphyra could be continued in secret by raising Jesus as an Israelite Jew alongside his Judahite adoptive family as well as Magdalene and Joseph the tradesman.
Also, Pantera was not some random roman soldier but had familial ties to the cheetah-uniform wearing israelites of Egypt, whom had allied themselves with the Ptolemies for some time, which the Northern tribes of Israel also was back in the day.
The "Pharisees" refer to their Persian bias, because they sided with the northeast against the interests of those aligned with Egypt.
Juba II was the husband of Cleopatras daughter Cleopatra Selene II before she abdicated, at which point Glaphyra stepped in as his lunar wife for ceremonial and political reasons.

>>17981719
Tick tock.

>>17981529 (OP)
>talmud

>>17981807
>Glaphyra stepped in as his lunar wife for ceremonial and political reasons.
She is the real reason for the early christianization of the Armenian church btw.

>>17981693
>this stupid faggot is STILL posting despite his shitwit "mittens" argument being disproved
What a loser. Go back to writing shitty science fiction slop
>>17981824
This doesn't work when your threat is imaginary. I can't wait to hear your screams. You have less than 5 years :)

>>17981529 (OP)
Pantera existing exclusively in anti-Christian sources should be a clue regarding this, op.

The statue (a grave marker) is from Germany. Pantera was a common name, and while he was from the Levant and around the same time period, it isn't conclusively the same guy.

>>17981665
>Matthew 23:2,3
>Saying, The Scribes and the Pharises sit in Moses seate:All therefore whatsoeuer they bid you obserue, that obserue and doe, but doe not ye after their workes: for they say, and doe not.
???

>>17981655
Who do you think was doing the replacing, anon? Do you think they imported Jewish rabbis to come replace the temples in the middle of the night?

Temples switched dieties because the local government and population wanted it. Nothing to do with virtue.

>>17981529 (OP)
Pantera isnt even a real name.

>>17982159
Sure it is. It's part of Roman tradition of the "agnomen," where some people took on an additional name in adulthood related to their deeds, like how Scipio Africanus added "Africanus" to his name after defeating Cathage in Africa.

Tiberius Pantera took on the name "Pantera" because he was a soldier and it's badass to be like a panther.

>>17981652
the epitome of roastie gaslighting, and perhaps the biggest gaslighting of human history.

>>17982159
Pantera is like a name turned into a slur, like Tyrone, Jamal, and Pajeet (yes, this is a name)

Pantera corresponds to the stereotypical Roman soldier who is roudy, drunk, and makes single mothers

>>17982159
It's a Hellenic Jewish pun. Instead of being born of a virgin (parthena) Jesus was born from a union with a panthera.

>>17981807
There was no Pantera, it's a pun on Parthenos (virgin)
the whole virgin birth thing is a myth to make him the son of god, the real Jesus was the biological son of Mary and Joseph

>>17981652
Why do Indians call everyone else pedos? I don’t get it.

>>17982444
I think Mary was artificially impregnated by an angel/alien. Jesus was literally not of this World.

>>17982136
Pharisees sitting in the Moses' seat means that they have the ability to make correct judgments on scripture. Therefore, the corpus of their judgments on scripture aka the Talmud is correct according to Jesus. As such, he affirms that when the Talmud says that his father is Pantera it is true.

>>17981529 (OP)
>after finding this out
keep learning
>>>/pol/515050597
>>>/pol/514900469

>>17981652
Do jeets like yids/Israel because they also dislike Christ/Christians?

>>17981529 (OP)
>A seething Jew and a seething pagan agree about same thing

Huh, imagine that. Nignored.

>>17981529 (OP)
Stop trying to get me to jerk off to Mary.
>>17981824
Heavy like a brinks truck.

>>17981703
Calm down with the will to power, Fred.

>>17981703
I don't believe in hell either but take your meds.

>>17981807
>The "Pharisees" refer to their Persian bias
Bullshit.

>>17984545
Out of all the things in the post, you chose to denounce Jews' appreciation of Cyrus... lol

>>17981529 (OP)
talmuddy, disregarded jew propaganda

>>17981529 (OP)
Christkikes are so cucked that they genuinely believe a foid claiming to be a virgin after cheating on her husband and getting knocked up by Chad.

>>17984549
It's your false etymology, retard.

>>17985543
I usually do use etymology, but in this case I really did mean "refer" and not a direct correlation of meaning.
The Pharisees were "separate" from the Saduccees because they were politically tied to the northeast, whereas the Saduccees were more local/of the periphery of egypt. The main thing being that the Pharisees didn't like Egypt, which is why you can find among the profanities aimed towards Jesus accusations of him being an Egyptian - with the intent that this somehow was a delegitimizing point.

>>17981529 (OP)
Panthera is just a pun on pantheos/pantheus, a common Greek term for the highest God in religion, and one Christians would have used.

>>17981785
Romans loved foreign Gods.
They adopted Greek ones all the time. Imported Egyptian gods. Took Gods from the Celts. From the Syrians. From the Persians.
The number one thing about Roman religion is that they loved finding new Gods to worship and try to find salvation through. Because their Gods were classically very impersonal and distant.

>>17985701
Gods, sure
(There were multiple times where they tried to incorporate Jesus into the patheon, but Christians refused, citing the dogma that he is the only true God.)

Religion, absolutely fucking not
The Pontifex Maximus holds supreme authority over the state's religion. Which means that every profit from the temple goes straight to him.
The idea of a religion that is independent of the Pontifex's authority is tolerated, so long as it remains small. Once it receives big enough support, a purge is bound to happen, as it threatens their coffers

Rome has always been intolerant of any attempts at separating from the Roman faith. To them, not sacrificing to the gods is tantamount to rebellion.
They purged each and every one, and Christians are the only ones who not just survived, but thrived

Tacitus wrote about it, citing how it is a superstition that died but rose again

>>17983953
>thinks muslims don't believe in the virgin birth of Jesus and the high status of Mary
idiot, take your own advice

>>17986016
That centralization died down heavily by the late empire.
Cults had become the norm, not the exception by the time of Christianity's spread. Huge cults like the cult of Isis didn't brook to the normal Roman priesthood, but you'd find members all over. With that split between mystery branches and more public facing ones.

This one is pretty ridiculous. I'll be saying a rosary for you guys today, and I invite others to do the same.

You're suffering from a sort of demonic blockage that isn't allowing you to see the full beauty of the Theotokos. While saying things like this is gravely sinful? Christ still loves you, Mary still loves you and is praying for you to repent to her Son.

>>17981529 (OP)
>>17981807
This is literal Jewish Talmudic propaganda.

>>17986665
lol.
the jews range between insisting that Juba II either was a secret son of Herod or some schizophrenic derailing about your moms sexual status or your nationality. Anything other than acknowledging his real existence, as it delegitimizes their history and the Herods.

>>17984343
No because Jews hate Muslims and so do Indians so it gives them a reason to love Jews and jeet behavior involves sucking superior cock for brownie points

>>17981529 (OP)
Holy kek.

>>17981652
>everybody i dont like is a pajeet!

>>17981807
You rat fuck kike

>>17986604
By the Late Empire, cults died down because Christians had already taken over

>>17981529 (OP)
Alright I don't like Christianity but come the fuck on, Jesus was not born from cuckoldry

>>17986198
the only people criticizing xnity via deep theology bullshit are sand monkeys go kys

>>17987837
>Mary cheats with a Roman soldier
>deep theology
You are fucking moron as I have said. The Quran literally says she guarded her chastity and that no man touched her. Any muslim using OP's argument is an automatic disbeliever for rejecting Allah's words
>using atheist bullshit as an argument for christianity
https://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com

>>17981529 (OP)
Celsus's source for this was a kike.
>One of Celsus's main sources for Books I–II of The True Word was an earlier anti-Christian polemic written by an unknown Jewish author,[16][10] whom Origen refers to as the "Jew of Celsus".[10] This Jewish source also provides well-researched criticism of Christianity[16] and, although Celsus was also hostile to Judaism,[16] he occasionally relies on this Jewish author's arguments,[16] to demonstrate the inconsistency of the Christian position, and he also uses Christian arguments among others to deconstruct the Jewish religion.

>Celsus initiated a critical attack on Christianity, ridiculing many of its dogmas. He wrote that some Jews said Jesus's father was actually a Roman soldier named Pantera. Origen considered this a fabricated story.[26][27] In addition, Celsus addressed the miracles of Jesus, holding that "Jesus performed his miracles by sorcery (γοητεία)

>>17981529 (OP)
Immaculate conception is an adultery “get out of jail free” card as old as time itself

>>17981655
Very true

>>17986631
>this is ridiculous guys. who ever heard of a woman having a child out of wedlock? what rubbish.
>anyway wanna hear the good news about how a dead jew had to die because of a talking snake? and he was born of a virgin.