Thread 17983343

It's inaccurate and misleading. The Romans never called themselves Byzantines, nor did any of their contemporaries. The term "Byzantine" was used after their fall because western scholars were biased against the Eastern Romans and didn't see them as truly Roman. The former people of the empire called themselves Romans until the 19th century.
"Byzantine" isn't even any more distinguishing than "Roman". If it's pre-476, you say West and East Rome, and I don't think anyone will be confused if you talk about the Roman Empire in the 10th century, it's pretty clear that you mean the empire based in Constantinople

>>17983343 (OP)
Yeah, Gibbon poisoned history with his inane babble

>>17983343 (OP)
Romans are Latin people. In the strictest sense, I would say "Romans" were people living in Rome/the Papal States.

>>17983343 (OP)
Köçek Empire would be a better name for it.

>>17983343 (OP)
k, redditor

Who cares?

>>17983343 (OP)
they were roman christians

>>17983343 (OP)
It's inaccurate and misleading. The Romans never called themselves Ottomans, nor did any of their contemporaries. The term "Ottoman" was used after their fall because western scholars were biased against the Muslim Romans and didn't see them as truly Roman. The former people of the empire called themselves Romans until the 19th century.

>>17983343 (OP)
It's inaccurate and misleading. The Romans never called themselves Ottomans, nor did any of their contemporaries. The term "Ottoman" was used after their fall because western scholars were biased against the Muslim Romans and didn't see them as truly Roman. The former people of the empire called themselves Romans until the 19th century.

>>17983343 (OP)
>>17983513
IN THIS HOUSE
EDWARD GIBBON IS A HERO

BEHOLD, THE ROMAN EMPIRE

"Roman" is more of an idea or a condition of the heart than a tangible thing that you can touch or see

>>17983603
>directly administrated area
>almost zero infrastructure built in hundreds of years of occupation in those areas
t*rks were legitimately sub humans compared to the actual Romans

>>17983343 (OP)
The word Byzantine is a convention used to distinguish the shitty christcuck empire from the real Rome. It's pretty easy to understand if you're not mentally challenged.

>>17983654
But enough about byzantrannies.
>>17983584
>roman christians
Oxymoron.
Christcucks will never be Roman, their empire will never be more than a degenerate shithole insulting the name of Rome.

>>17983654
They built some bridges or algo I guess

>>17983603
They literally called themselves the “Sublime Ottoman State” you faggot. They never called their state Roman like the eastern Romans who called their state Βασιλεία Ῥωμαίων meaning “Empire of the Romans” in Greek.

>>17983343 (OP)
>>17983628
>>17983628
I've been reading about Mystras and looking pictures of it. Last century of the empire and they were still throwing punches, building formidable buildings and producing world-class art/texts. So yeah, Romans until the end (and beyond if you take madlads like Krokodelios Kladas into account)

>>17983642
>"Roman" is more of an idea or a condition of the heart than a tangible thing that you can touch or see

It's fine to have Emperors, they said.
Moving the capital to other cities around the Empire won't be a problem, they said.
Rome has nothing to do with Rome. Said the wokes.

>>17983343 (OP)
I prefer Constantinopolitan Empire.

>>17983756
Romans did a lot of bad shit to provincials as well. Ruinously high taxes to enrich corrupt officials, and arbitrary acts of violence and rape by soldiers acting with impunity were common.

>>17985482
These all stopped by Augustus THOUGH