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Anonymous No.17988870 [Report] >>17989038 >>17989211 >>17989460 >>17990348 >>17990818 >>17991929
Spain's greatest mistake ever was to be a pussy shit castrated nation
To allow the puppet grandson of a calvinist tyrannt that made war on their nation all he could and more to sit his dirty smelly snail/rotten cheese eating ass in their empire's throne.

A literally castrated nation unwilling to kick out an obvious cadet branch sent there to undermine their whole nation and civilization.

The Trastamaras and Habsbourgs built a global empire.
The snail eaters auctioned and corrupted in a sort of Haiti on a grand scale.
Anonymous No.17989038 [Report] >>17989211
>>17988870 (OP)
>Trastamaras
Also French.
Anonymous No.17989141 [Report] >>17989146 >>17989157 >>17989194 >>17989221 >>17989337 >>17989379
Spaniard here

People are very unfair when it comes to Bourbon Dinasty criticism. We had great Bourbon kings. Criticism comes from Austria House weaboos and ignorant people

>French
Originally yes they were. But they have been living Spain for +350 years. Intermarrying Spanish nobility. Pledging loyalty to Spain. They literally have no right to the French throne no more. The mother of the current princesses is 100% Spaniard and not even nobility
Anonymous No.17989146 [Report] >>17989157 >>17989175
>>17989141
>We had great Bourbon kings
almost every spanish Bourbon has been born in exile or died exiled
Anonymous No.17989157 [Report] >>17989194 >>17989211 >>17989221
>>17989146
>>17989141
The bad reputation of the Bourbons in Spain does not really come from their actual reigns, but from ideological propaganda. Much of it started with the French Revolution and the Masonic circles that spread a negative image of the dynasty, later picked up by Italian unification movements, Spanish leftists, and Catalan nationalism. Instead of looking at their policies or historical achievements, critics often reduce the Bourbons to shallow anecdotes like saying one king was depressive, another too religious, or another fond of hunting. These are not serious arguments, just excuses to undermine the monarchy and, in the end, the unity of Spain itself.

If we look at their reigns honestly, the Bourbons gave Spain some of its best rulers. Felipe V, the first Bourbon king, secured the dynasty through the War of Succession and began central reforms that helped stabilize the kingdom. Fernando VI brought peace and prosperity after decades of war. Carlos III stands out as one of the greatest monarchs in Spanish history, a reformer, a builder, and a modernizer who turned Madrid into a real capital and pushed forward infrastructure, science, and trade. Later, Alfonso XII restored stability after years of civil wars, while Alfonso XIII, unfairly blamed for the disasters of his time, was a capable king who tried to guide Spain through turbulent years. Even in modern times, Juan Carlos I returned Spain to democracy and gave the country decades of peace and development, and today Felipe VI, despite having almost no real powers, is perhaps the most dignified and respected king in the world.

Rather than judging the dynasty through clichés or political myths, it makes more sense to recognize the role the Bourbons have played in holding Spain together across three centuries of immense change. Their legacy is complex, like that of any royal house, but it is also marked by periods of stability, reform, and progress that shaped the country as we know it today.
Anonymous No.17989162 [Report]
Removing the kings for more kings will do nothing anyways.
We no longer live in a monarchic world it's useless to change one for another they will do nothing important anyways.
Anonymous No.17989175 [Report] >>17989194 >>17989221
>>17989146
>almost every spanish Bourbon has been born in exile or died exiled

False:

>Felipe V – Born: France | Died: Spain
>Luis I – Born: Spain | Died: Spain
>Fernando VI – Born: Spain | Died: Spain
>Carlos III – Born: Spain | Died: Spain
>Carlos IV – Born: Spain | Died: Italy (exile)
>Fernando VII – Born: Spain | Died: Spain
>Isabel II – Born: Spain | Died: France (exile)
>Alfonso XII – Born: Spain | Died: Spain
>Alfonso XIII – Born: Spain | Died: Italy (exile)
>Juan Carlos I – Born: Italy (exile) | Alive, currently in Abu Dhabi
>Felipe VI – Born: Spain | Alive, reigning in Spain
Anonymous No.17989194 [Report]
>>17989141
>>17989157
>>17989175
Based
Anonymous No.17989211 [Report] >>17989364
>>17989038
Ayooo we wuz da Trastamaras n shieet
>>17988870 (OP)
There was nothing Calvinist about Philip V and even Louis XIV actively persecuted them to the point that they left France en masse.
>>17989157
Very true, it's nice to read an actual good post on here once in a while
Anonymous No.17989221 [Report] >>17989273 >>17990494 >>17992121
>>17989157
>>17989141
>>17989175
Nigger, wtf are you even talking about?

Louis XIV literally stated that it was a conquest of his family and subjugating the greatest headhache of his family during the previous 2 centuries.

Literally your nation became the laughing stock of the continent for becoming a pussy paypig colony of Versailles that paid the wars of Louis XV and sent its men to the meatgrinder in irrelevant wars against far away powers for Versailles.

Napoleon was even so entitled that used the Bourbons conquest of your shithole as failed nation as an excuse to fuck you back to stone age and put his retarded brother as puppet cadet tyrant in your throne.

And you wonder why Latinxs got to independize. Bolivar, San Martin and the other independentists down there wrote down about you as an honorless castrated haitianfied shitty French colony unwhorthy of being followed anymore.

And even after all of that shit you keep behaving as straight ius primae nocted medieval serfs.

I would said you are polish tier but even polish have more guts to rage out against russians.
Anonymous No.17989273 [Report] >>17989473 >>17990028 >>17990333
>>17989221
Wow, you’re spewing absolute nonsense. Louis XIV “subjugating” Spain? What a retarded take. Felipe V became king through legitimate succession after the War of Spanish Succession, not because of some Versailles fantasy your niggerfucked brain imagined. Calling Spain a “colony of Versailles” is beyond idiotic. The Spanish Bourbons ruled as fully sovereign monarchs, implemented reforms, stabilized the administration, improved the navy, and managed their own European and American affairs. They did not pay for French wars or follow French orders.

Napoleon putting his brother on the Spanish throne doesn’t prove any of your autistic claims. He invaded Spain for his own imperial ambitions, not because Spain was “weak” or “failed” as you say. Napoleon’s entry into Spain involved deception, manipulation, and opportunism,rather than an outright fair conquest. Like a fucking Jew.

And the idea that Latin America’s independence was some kind of proof that Spain was “incapable,” “castrated,” or “Haitianfied” is pure ignorance. The independence movements were the result of global forces. If it wasn't for Napoleonic wars all the independence movements would have been crushed effortlessly.

You clearly don’t understand history or European dynasties. Do yourself a favor: read an actual history book illiterate nigger monkey.
Anonymous No.17989337 [Report] >>17990349
>>17989141
Most European royal families are foreign or mixed. Napoleon was italian, Monaco royal family is Italian, UK royal family is german, swedes royal family is french, Greek one is Danish, etc.
Anonymous No.17989364 [Report] >>17989863
>>17989211
Trastamaras were a branch of the House of Burgundy, which itself was a branch of the House of France (Capetians)
Anonymous No.17989379 [Report] >>17990016
>>17989141
Spain and been an utter irrilevant meme country since the Bourboun cadets took over, and when to choice the country even managed to reject the less shitty sub-branch of the Dynasty (The Carlists).
The comparisons with the Trasmaras that leaded the Riconquista and the Hasburgs that made Spain a world Superpower its just pathetic
Anonymous No.17989460 [Report]
>>17988870 (OP)
>The snail eaters auctioned and corrupted in a sort of Haiti on a grand scale.

What?
Anonymous No.17989473 [Report]
>>17989273
Great post
Get fucked retarded Op
Anonymous No.17989772 [Report]
Bump
Anonymous No.17989863 [Report] >>17990263
>>17989364
Yeah you think I didn't knew that
Still don't make them French
Btw the French royal family is German in origin if you want to go down that road
Anonymous No.17990016 [Report]
>>17989379
>Spain and been an utter irrilevant meme country since the Bourboun cadets took over, and when to choice the country even managed to reject the less shitty sub-branch of the Dynasty (The Carlists).
>The comparisons with the Trasmaras that leaded the Riconquista and the Hasburgs that made Spain a world Superpower its just pathetic
This
Anonymous No.17990028 [Report] >>17990067
>>17989273
Negroid turd fuck there were plenty of writers from the XVIII century that stated how much Spain fell from grace under Bourbons. From Spanish America, Austria and Italy with a tone of sorrow, from England and France with a tone of mockery.

Read Voltaire, Horace Walpole, Edward Gibbon and Mason de Morvilliers on the matter, even fucking John Adams stated that you became a shithole colony. Even Wellington stated at Vienna how shit you became with the cadet branch Louis XIV encysted in your shithole.

You are like the blind who can't see the forest beyond the tree. You are coomerfied braindead groomed turd beyond any fixation at this point.
Anonymous No.17990067 [Report]
>>17990028
More like Spain was a backwards shithole, the true nature of which was revealed once the endless stream of precious metals from Latinxistan dried up.
Anonymous No.17990241 [Report]
Wait a minute, maybe the real problem is not that the Bourbons aren't spanish or whatever, maybe the real issue is that after the first four Kings they became too Spanish and then became corrupt and incompetent. The Habsburgs underwent a similar decline.
Anonymous No.17990263 [Report] >>17990861 >>17990877 >>17992112
>>17989863
You clearly didn't.

French are genetically Germanic and unrelated to the brown faunas below the Alps and the Pyrenees. Hence why France is a nuclear power while Spain and Italy are quasi third world countries living off EU gibs.
Anonymous No.17990333 [Report]
>>17989273
>The independence movements were the result of global forces.
Bruh, those movements weren’t even looking for independence at first. During the Napoleonic Wars, the new Juntas stayed loyal. But then after the retarded king came back, he started a war to restore colonial rule and squash any semblance of autonomy or political agency, and that’s when Bolívar and San Martín started gaining traction. It was obvious Spain was looking to turn the viceroyalties into British/French styled colonies, and refused to give them the same level of self-governing the Juntas de Gobierno in the penisula had and people were rightfully pissed.
It was an entirely internal affair. Britain knew they didn't even need to declare war to Spain (Like Spain did to them during the American Revolutionary War), giving guns and mercenaries to the dissidents was enough.
That said, even if the Napoleonic Wars had never occurred, the Carlist Wars would have provided another opportunity for the viceroyalties to secede. There were liberals on the other side of the Atlantic too and the rich criollos considered Spain too fractured too rely their security on. For them it was better to gain Britain's favor.
Anonymous No.17990348 [Report] >>17990784
>>17988870 (OP)
What is their opinion on Bourbon whiskey
Anonymous No.17990349 [Report]
>>17989337
Monaco is Italian ,liguaran, though. They literally were a part of Genoa
Anonymous No.17990494 [Report]
>>17989221
Nothing of what you said is true, retarded macaque.

Attributing success of a country to the mere will and actions of a king is as simplistically dumb as your fucked up retarded apeish microbrain. This is valid for all kings, Trastamaras, Habsburgs, Bourbons, etc. Britain was at its Imperial height during Queen Victoria's reign, yet she was a retarded annoying Karen that became pretty much neurotic and mental after hubby's death. How come, fucktard?

Seething at the Bourbons with false pretexts is a traditional trademark of coward catalan separatists and commies, for they get in the way of their aspirations to a republic. There really is nothing more to it.
Anonymous No.17990546 [Report] >>17990551 >>17990742
Can you guys stop arguing and post more Leonor pics
Anonymous No.17990551 [Report] >>17990734
>>17990546
saaaaaarrrrrrr
Anonymous No.17990734 [Report]
>>17990551
Yes only a smelly Indian would be attracted to women my bad
Anonymous No.17990742 [Report]
>>17990546
nigga asking the right question here
Anonymous No.17990784 [Report]
>>17990348
needs more vanilla
Anonymous No.17990818 [Report]
>>17988870 (OP)
Yes, but the loli was pretty.
Anonymous No.17990861 [Report] >>17990862
>>17990263
>French are genetically Germanic
No one can take you seriously if you say shit like this, fucking retard
Anonymous No.17990862 [Report] >>17990869
>>17990861
>the brown creature is seething
kek
Anonymous No.17990869 [Report] >>17990879
>>17990862
Yeah dude, France
A country in which +50% of the population has brown eyes, speak a latin language and the average male height is 5'9. Gotta be the only Germanic country with such characteristics

Lmao dude, you wrongly assume I Spanish just because I can tell you are a fucking retard? Schizo
Anonymous No.17990876 [Report]
Everything French touch becomes Haiti. Look at North Africa, Quebec, England, Louisiana, Sahel, Vietnam...
Anonymous No.17990877 [Report] >>17990882
>>17990263
>French are genetically Germanic
Their nobility was and it got heradicated by the Revolution. The mast majority of french were gallo-roman with frankish admixture the more you go north
Anonymous No.17990879 [Report] >>17990880
>>17990869
Ethnic French are overwhelmingly blue eyed and typically range from about 5'11" to 6'0" in height. The reason they speak Latin is because the Franks had already been heavily Romanized by the time they defeated the Romans.

You are definitely a Spaniard, or some other kind of bown creature, trying to drag the French into the Southron category in order to latch onto their achievements, as you Southrons are all poor and low-achievements.
Anonymous No.17990880 [Report] >>17990947 >>17990952 >>17991258
>>17990879
>according to Gobbineau, France provided a particularly lamentable instance of degeneration in which the Teutonic “Frankish” aristocracy represented by the Bourbon dynasty had actually been displaced by the common people, constituted of inferior Celts and the Gauls whom the Franks had conquered in the fifth century.
Anonymous No.17990882 [Report] >>17990982
>>17990877
I am not talking about their nobility.

Pro;tip blue is Germanic, pink is Celtic, yellow is Iberian, brown is vasconic, and light blue is Italic. As you can see French are overwhelmingly Germanic.
Anonymous No.17990947 [Report] >>17990952 >>17991258
>>17990880
Are these niggas supposed to be pinnacle of the Aryan Germanic race?. I'm far from impressed
Anonymous No.17990952 [Report] >>17991258
>>17990947
>>17990880
Gobineau was a schizo
Anonymous No.17990982 [Report] >>17991258
>>17990882
Delusional. Northen France have the exact same celtic admixture it had in pre-roman times, as the western germans are mostly germanized iron age celts.
The proper Germany genetics are majority only in the baltic coast of Northen Germany and in Scandinavia
Anonymous No.17991258 [Report]
>>17990947
>>17990880
>>17990952
>>17990982
t.
Anonymous No.17991929 [Report]
>>17988870 (OP)
Leftism. Its whats for pussies.
Anonymous No.17992112 [Report]
>>17990263
>French are genetically Germanic
Oh no no no no no
Anonymous No.17992121 [Report]
>>17989221
None of this ever happened