Thread 17995132

How does religion explain the existence of demons and angels?

>>17995132 (OP)
cool painting.

>>17995142
Its really dumb and anybody who thinks political skirmishes and petty crime are part of some kind of divine war where they are an angle under siege from "demons" is a faithless narcissist.

>>17995151
It's sad how spiritually numb and blind you are. I'm gonna assume you're young.

"Demonic forces" are real, not just in the comic book red devil sense. Just look up how the ancient Greeks defined it to get the original meaning.

>>17995170
>look up these pagan superstitions
No

>>17995182
I don't care. I keep running circles around retards like you in real life because you refuse to accept the truth.

>>17995188
lol

>>17995132 (OP)
Yeah, "demons" don't exist. This is a big problem when reading the New Testament. The words "Satan", "Lucifer", "Demons", "Fallen Angel", "Devil", are NOT in the Torah. Moses NEVER mentioned them. The word "devils" might be in some Torah translations, but it's a reference to idols, not the offspring of Satan.

So, why did Moses write two entire books on the Law, but never bothered to mention that we are battling hypergalactic fallen angels who fell from heaven? Because, this is 1st century Pharisaic Gnostic literature that Jesus was battling during His ministry. The word "Satan" is an untranslated Hebrew word that was never properly translated into Greek, nor was it translated into English. They purposely left it in Hebrew, then slapped it with a capital "S" to make it an entity.

The Jewish Gnostics and Pharisees teach that an evil angel named "Samael" is the evil guardian angel of Roman Europeans, and he is known as "Satan" and "Lucifer". Ask yourself, why does the word "Lucifer" only show up one time in the Bible, and why is it a pure LATIN word that was purposely left in Latin and slapped with a capital "L"? The Old Testament came from the Jewish Masoretic Bible.... how did a Latin word find its way into an English Bible?

When "Satan" or the "Adversary" first shows up in the Bible, in the book of Job, he is not a rebel, he is God's loyal servant who obeys every word God says. The entity that we call "Satan" is not evil, he serves God with pure loyalty.

The story of "Satan" or "Lucifer" rebelling, is found in Rabbinical folklore and the Quran. It's not in the Torah. MEN are the enemies in the Bible. Gnostics use fallen angels and demons as scapegoats, when the real enemies are man-made doctrines, Gnostics and Pharisees.

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The New Testament presents two options, Jesus was either healing the sick, or casting out devils. This is real history, since that is EXACTLY how a 1st century Greek or Jew would interpret someone being healed. When Jesus was casting out a devil from a man who called himself "Legion" in Mark 5:9-15 and Luke 8:30, and he cast the devils into the pigs and drowned them... Jesus was NOT battling a demon, even though that's what it appears to say. The man was suffering from schizophrenia, which can be caused by people eating bad meats (especially pork). People who live in desert countries shouldn't eat pork, it's super dangerous. Pork is a very unforgiving meat to eat, and can not only give you parasites that eat at your brain, but bad pork can kill you.

So, if you were to go back in time and tell people in the 1st century that "this man Legion is diagnosed with toxoplasma gondii and schizophrenia, caused by an obligate intracellular parasite protozoan eukaryote"... YOU WOULD BE THE CRAZY ONE!

Nobody back then would understand what you just said if you tried to give these people a 21st century scientific explanations.

MAJORITY of the people living at this time would only understand this by telling them Jesus was casting out devils and demons, since that is how they spoke during the 1st century.

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So, yes, Jesus was casting out demons, but he was also just healing the sick. The New Testament authors write BOTH views, and this is super accurate history, since this is the only way you could write this message during the 1st century, so that the average person would understand what you just said.

While I don't believe that Demons and Devils are real and are scared of antibiotics and chicken noodle soup, I believe that the New Testament is perfectly accurate when it mentions that Jesus was casting out devils, since that is perfect 1st century vernacular.

https://www.realdevil.info/4-2.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JX_8P4KQIIA

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>>17995189
Wake up, blind man

>>17995204
>>17995206
>>17995211
>solomon didn't enslave demons to build the temple
lol, sure, not

>>17995242
Solomon is a jewish fairy tale

>>17995142
Looks AI

>>17995170
>look up
Why dont you just explain the origional meaning so we can have a conversation with modern language?

>>17995280
--ACK.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Dan_stele

>>17995337
What I am saying is that it matters about as much to Christianity as celtic folk tales about the fae.

>>17995371
how does religion explain angels

>>17995151
You are extremely dense, everyone with just a hint of awareness saw that guy was mad and vile.

>>17995151
All of life represents the war between the city of man and the City of God.

>>17995763
It's not really hard.
Demons=mental diseases and traumas
Angels=positive mental constructs
Even atheist english historians figured this out, extreme emotions and manias spread misery and death, that guy's mom is already claiming "he was mentally ill", call it mental disease, call it demons, the fact is there is something there promoting ruin and must be fought back.

>>17995132 (OP)
Greco-Roman religions understand what Christianity understood: that there is one supreme God (or head god as the Greco-Romans put it) and then there are lesser spirits under him. Zeus was clearly the head of the Greek heaven, but there are other spirits under Zeus.

This is why there are angels and demons. They are lesser spirits under the head one.
>>17995204
>Yeah, "demons" don't exist. This is a big problem when reading the New Testament. The words "Satan", "Lucifer", "Demons", "Fallen Angel", "Devil", are NOT in the Torah. Moses NEVER mentioned them.
See picrel

>>17995132 (OP)
Aquinas explained them the best. Here is a cool video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwJNi-f1NPc

>>17995906
based Thomist

>>17995132 (OP)
noticing

>>17995142
It's cringe

>>17995325
It's too much

Honestly if you can't understand the meaning and intent between spirits and demons you're pretty hopeless

>>17996482
>It's too much
>If you can't understand you're pretty hopeless.
Its too much to explain, and you're hopeless if you can't figure it out. This is a pretty grim world view that you have. You can't explain it, and there is no hope for anyone around you that doesn't understand what you can't explain. Lulz. Im glad I dont think like you.