Thread 18061128

Deaths at Auschwitz were officially recorded, like any other camp in the world at the time.

The Auschwitz Death Books (German: Sterbebücher) are death registers prepared under the responsibility of the Political Department of the Auschwitz Camp (comprising the Main Camp, Birkenau, and all the subcamps). These books contained the death certificates of the inmates who had been admitted and registered at the camp, and who subsequently died for whatever reasons, executions included. When a maximum of 1,500 of these single-sheet certificates had been issued, they were bound as hard-cover volumes. Three copies of each death certificate existed. One remained in the camp, while two others were sent to superior departments.

>>18061128 (OP)
When the Auschwitz Camp was evacuated in mid-January 1945, these Death Books were taken to the Gross-Rosen Camp, where they were abandoned when the Germans retreated from that town. Soviet authorities found them there eventually. From a series of communications between Soviet agencies, we know that they found 80 volumes, which were sent to Moscow with all the other archival material captured. When the Soviet Union/Russia released the German wartime documents it still had in its archives during the early 1990s, only 46 of the original 80 volumes were left, covering the time from mid-1941 to the end of 1943 with some gaps. Considering the rampant corruption in post-collapse Russia, the remaining volumes might have been sold on the black market. One more volume was recovered elsewhere. The rest have not been recovered to this day.

>>18061131
The total number of deceased inmates registered in the available Death Books plus fragments of other volumes that were found elsewhere is 68,864. If all 80 volumes were filled, and all contained 1,500 or only slightly less death certificates, then this would indicate a total death toll among registered Auschwitz inmates of some 120,000 inmates. However, a thorough study of other documents that also registered deceased inmates shows that not all inmates who died at Auschwitz were registered in the Death Books. Adding those documented in other registries, the total death toll actually tallies to some 135,500 deceased inmates.

aren't they just estimated camp arrivals? it's also pretty apparent there were peopel being cyucled through these camps that were immediately moved somewhere else because camp pops never grew above 100k (this is where jews claim they were all gassed) but in reality there were being taken somewhere to work

They were also sending dead bodies from the cities to these camps to be cremated, so "people" were arriving dead

>>18061132
Some data of the available death certificates contained in the Death Books was published in 1995 in a German study. Analyzing these data yields some interesting insights. For example, if we go strictly by the preserved death certificates, then more Christians (mostly Poles) died at Auschwitz than Jews (see the first table).

>>18061134
Edgy. So fucken edgy.

>>18061136
>if we go strictly by the preserved death certificates
And if we don't?

>>18061137
What did I say that was edgy? There's many variables not considered

>>18061136
Furthermore, these volumes contain a considerable amount of very young and very old people, among them babies, even infants born in Auschwitz, and geriatrics 80 years and older. If we follow the orthodox narrative, such individuals should never have been admitted to the camp, but should have been slated for immediate gassing upon arrival (or birth). But that is evidently not what happened. The second table shows the relative representation of various age groups among registered Auschwitz inmates who died in that camp and found themselves duly documented as such.

>>18061139
>"people"

>>18061142
Well they're dead so they're not people anymore

>>18061140
And these 550 or so 70+? They were all Jews, or?

>>18061140
>>18061128 (OP)

The Death Books of Auschwitz also confirm that the death rate among inmates was catastrophically high in the summer and fall of 1942, and then again in early 1943, which coincides with the richly documented typhus epidemic during those times. All in all, there is no other German wartime camp that suffered from such a catastrophic inmate mortality. It was truly a “death camp” in terms of inmates dying like flies as a result of poor hygienic and sanitary conditions during long stretches of the camp’s existence.

>>18061146
rather, since auschwitz was the nerve center for cleaning people and disposing of infected bodies it makes perfect sense that all the sick and bodies from warsaw/krawkow were being sent there

>>18061144
>And these 550 or so 70+? They were all Jews, or?

As per the religious breakdown, they would be mostly christian.

>>18061143
You fucking worm.

>>18061153
Were they though? What do their death certificates say?

>>18061155
You don't think it's an important distinction to be made that these people "arriving to be gassed" were already dead?

>>18061153
For other links and info;
For more details, see the entries on the Auschwitz Main Camp, Birkenau, healthcare, and France; see also Staatliches Museum 1995; Mattogno 2023, Part 2, pp. 163-170, 211; Kollerstrom 2023, pp. 87-90; Rudolf 2023, pp. 41-48, 242-245

https://nukebook.org/document/auschwitz-death-books/381/

>>18061142
>>18061137
"people" meaning a generalized term for an indeterminate group of individuals you deranged lunatic.
You have such a chip on your shoulder you think everything is dehumanizing when the reality is the term is being used to track individuals, groups, and those who already died.
which is NOT how you would use the term "people" colloqially.

>>18061157
Yes. See the table;
>>18061136

>>18061158
Im the OP. What 'other dead people' are you talking about? Do you have death books for these?

>>18061161
That table says nothing about those 550 70+ who died. What were their religions, specifically them?

>>18061166
type into google "were the nazis sending already dead bodies to auschwtiz"

>>18061160
>""
You fucking gutless little cunt.

>>18061167
Given the percentage breakdown, the jewish contingent of the dead age 70 plus would 42.8%.

Do you disagree or have any problem with that statement?

>>18061173
I'm not asking for a percentage breakdown, I'm asking for the death certificates of those specific 550 people.

>>18061171
OP here. why are you freaking out like a faggot?

>>18061177
Jews are people, yes or no?

>>18061175
OP here.
I put the link to the various studies didnt I ?

You want me to post someone's death cert now?

>>18061168
oh wait even google denies they were sending dead bodies when there's direct evidence

lolocaust

>>18061179
Yes, of course. Theyre both people and Jews. Either description is adequate.

>>18061181
>dead bodies arrived
>this means they loaded dead bodies onto the train and shipped them around
Are your parents brother and sister?

>>18061186
>The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum and other historical sources document Nazis using trains to transport the corpses of prisoners who died from starvation, disease, and the inhumane conditions
Now I bet I'm the only one schizophrenic enough to think it's pretty odd I got 10 "NO" answers to my question until google finally decided to admit I was right

>>18061188
And you can link to this source, right?
>who died from starvation, disease, and the inhumane conditions
While they were on the train Cletus.

>>18061188
Its not impossible that bodies could be shipped in for cremation. Though I doubt the camp was the only furnace unit in Poland. But whats the implication? That this bumped amounts of ash?

>>18061192
Right jews have already pre programmed AI to claim that jews only died on trains despite just a few weeks ago me finding out they were purposefully putting corpses on trans to get them out of the cities

>>18061193
>railway lines are getting bombed left and right
>food and medicine supplies are low causing epidemics
>but they're making sure the lines stay open so bodies can receive proper burials
Truly the absolute best of shabbos goyim.

>>18061195
>no link
Ok Let's.

>>18061198
Reducing the population of cities, through eventual starvation and typhus and deportation reduces the plague and starvation in the city

The camps were set up to sterilize bodies and civilians

>>18061207
>starving the city reduces starvation in the city
Want to have another stab at that?

>>18061198
Indeed, interesting. To that end, we see here the introduction of microwave delousing technology from Siemens company which was delayed by allied bombing. Literally a case of the war directly affecting the survival of camp inmates, a problem that only worsened later.

https://nukebook.org/technology/microwave-delousing/

"While the conservative Heer (army) was reluctant to order these new devices, the SS was very enthusiastic and ordered an initial five devices. After the first mobile version, which was deployed in Lublin, had demonstrated phenomenal efficiency and effectiveness in 1943, five more stationary devices were ordered.

The first camp to obtain a stationary microwave disinfestation device was Auschwitz. Its delivery had been promised for May 1943, hence the construction of some of the initially planned delousing facilities using other techniques was shelved. However, the delivery was repeatedly delayed due to problems with the development, not the least because the Siemens factories in Berlin had been bombed by Allied planes. As a result, epidemic control at the Auschwitz Camp was compromised, costing the lives of many inmates in 1943 and 1944."

Turns out that this thread is a copy-paste of https://holocaustencyclopedia.com/document/auschwitz-death-books/381/

Bots getting lazy.

>>18061219
Uh yes, Im literally copying this stuff from the encyclopedia in order to make a thread about history.

problem?

>>18061216
Truly the best goyim, the shabbosstaffel.

>>18061228
Indeed.

"Auschwitz
While there is reason to believe that the situation at the Auschwitz camps was similar to that reported by Paul Rassinier, the extant documentation on medical service provided at those camps is vast. It irrefutably proves that the SS policy was at all times to do anything they could in order to preserve and reinstate the health of all inmates, and to care even for those inmates who were incurably sick.

For instance, at least 25 x-ray books have been preserved containing the names of 34,876 inmates who were x-rayed in order to diagnose diseases or injuries, very frequently followed by all kinds of surgeries. Frequent reports of the Auschwitz inmate hospital listed surgeries performed, among other things. Daily reports on inmate deployment showed, at times, a staggering number of inmates lodged in the camp who were unfit for labor, none of whom was ever killed. Patients suffering terminally from tuberculosis were nursed for months on end, with daily records of the disease’s progression, until they eventually died. None of them was killed."

https://nukebook.org/concept/healthcare/324/

>>18061247
Jews get all this why Aryans die screaming in the snow or are incinerated in bombed cities. Truly, truly the best of goyim.

>>18061249
271000 dead Jews is nothing schlomo. Dont downplay your contribution.

>>18061209
No? Reduction in population means theres less starving people and less disease in your AO. How many people were starving in Russia in their cities? What were they doing about the mounds of corpses

>>18061264
*not

>>18061226
>look! here on my neonazi site it says nazis good
why are neonazis such npc

>>18061264
Indeed, Germany took very good care of the Jews, with Hitler dispatching his own shabbosstaffel to ensure they received nothing but the finest.

>>18061265
>reducing the number of people reduces the number of starving people
Try again Cletus.

>>18061265
>nazis starve people to fight starvation
yeah, no supirse that they got stomped so hard in ww2 if those were their tactics

>>18061274
Correct. The more people that starve and die from typhus the less volatile the plague is if you can somehow manage to remove the corpses and keep people clean

>>18061269
Its revisionist history, not nazi history. Much like your Benny Morris (an Israeli history revisionist) and even Finkelstein gives him credit so why not revisionists?

Come on Schlomo, dont get upset.

>>18061282
i'm anything but upset that we slaughtered nazis by millions lil bro

>>18061280
>The more people that starve and die from typhus the less volatile the plague

*kvetching intensifies*

>>18061287
Correct. The high population areas like the cities full of "useless eaters" huddling in bombed brick hovels relying completely on the government dying is a net positive for the overarching fight against a war induced plague as they are the most likely people to transfer infected lice

>>18061280
That's why boming of Dresden was a charity, they cleansed the city with fire which eliminted plaguue and starvation

>>18061295
The Germans were quick to collect the bodies and burn them

>>18061271
Thanks for noticing.
>>18061278
uuh noo. starving people are disease carriers and disease carriers threaten surrounding populations.
>>18061280
Nope. Dead bodies still carry the plagues, you end typhus increased but also cholera etc from contamination of water. All round poor control of the diseased and the dead is a severe health hazard and generally for example, more deadly to troops in battle than the battle itself.

>>18061297
You wanted another bombing to burn the bodies for you too? don't be such a greedy kraut

>>18061285
Sure but youre upset about all the Polish dead right? How did it go after that for you under communism Schlomo ? Heard you had a few problems.

>>18061299
that's why it's a good thing that Soviet purged the eastenr germany from many diseases
Did you hear about any german that starved in Gdańsk after 1950? No? Problem sovled

>>18061299
Theory main fear was lice and fleas which would hopefully be killed quickly after a quick burning. But their bodies still contain the plague yes

>>18061293
>useless eaters
Your heroes everyone.

>>18061303
bashing the heads of little nazi whores aganist the berlin walls was an act of good will too, imagne all the STD that germans would have to face

>>18061303
Why would Schlomo have problems under communism?

>>18061307
>He doesn't know that cities are all going to starve to death if we have another world war
Oh no not all the libtard socialists

>>18061308
why are you so hateful? what happened to your soul?

>>18061299
>Nazis locate Jews into Poland and pour countless billions into making their life easy
>Wow! Based!
>USA and UK locate Jews into Palestine and pour countless billions into making their life easy
>nooo!!!! fucking scholom shaboo goys!!

explain this logic

>>18061313
Cities are were all your munitions and vehicles are being made Cletus.

>>18061278
>>18061285
>>18061295
>HELP ME HELP ME
>dragged across the finish line by Western Whites
>HAHHAA WE ARE LE STRONK

>>18061318
poltranny melty

>>18061317
>Feed me I live near a bullet factory!
Enjoy starvation little bro

>>18061315
what is so hateful about protecting germans from starvation and diseases?

>>18061317
All the munitions and vehicles are made in the sticks of Texas and Pennsylvania wtf lmfao.
I live in around horse farms and the SOLE munitions factory for shells in America, we are more than 130 miles from any City.

shitlibs would lose and lose hard in a Civil War 2.0.
Mainly because shitlibs dont produce genius, they really dont produce anything at all, and the non-Whites who would constitute their coalition would inevitably break down.
look at how violent they are now when things are peaceful, imagine if "THE FUCK YOU MEAN YOU DONT TAKE EBT NO MO'?" became apart of your ad-hoc militia.

You lost the story, they will build monuments of Hitler in the future and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>18061321
This shit is why you got utterly raped last time.

>>18061295
Dresden was a german city, therefore such things were minimal if existant at all. Sorry try again.

>>18061305
No youre right, no germans starved in Danzig after 1950. Alot of Poles did though - they purged more Poles than Germans. Sent you to Siberia and you werent even at war with them kek. How does that feel?

>>18061306
Burning isnt very quick. And bombing doesnt do shit either.
>>18061307
>"useless eaters"
Not really a nazi terminology. Just something propagandists and jews picked up and swung around their heads like dead chickens

>>18061323
>noone
>noone at all
>MURRICA CIVIL WAR SHITLIBS!!!!!!!
Ok Cletus pipe down, time for your opioids.

>>18061326
>Dosing someone with gas and burning them isn't a quick way to kill bugs living in their hair

>>18061320
>>18061322
why are they so delusional and hateful?

>>18061326
germans don't need food and are immune to disases? so, kinda like roaches who can just eat feces
roaches don't kil themselvs tho

>>18061329
>brainrot response
tell me you have youtube on 10+ hours a day without telling me

>>18061333
They photosynthesize

>>18061332
huh? what is so hateful about protecting germans from starvation and diseases?

>>18061334
You are litterally the only person talking about America and civil war anon.

>>18061308
>rape is goodwill
ok schlomo
>>18061309
Stalin not happy. Getting sus.
>>18061316
As a prelude to getting the train back to the Pale where they came from dufus. Read a book.
>>18061318
You have said the actual truth.
>>18061323
Also this

Picrel is another massacre that didnt happen. Babi Yar

>>18061342
My theory is babi yar happened but it was maybe a thousand people or it was far less and it was propagandized to scare Jewish partisans

>>18061342
Stalin was a Jew though?

>>18061342
If you are raped and killed then you won't transmit diseases and waste food? The Red Army literally saved germans then, you should be worshiping Stalin as your savior

>>18061330
>kill millions of jews in order to make sure the lice are really dead.

ok schlomo

>>18061333
>doesnt recognise german civlisation.
checks out. carry on.

>>18061339
>seething so hard xhe cant even type
love to see it.
Munitions and vehicles arent made in cities.
cities are filled with black people who dont make anything.

>>18061352
>Body is already dead
>Cause of death typhus
>????
>Set it on fire

>>18061353
>terminal America brain

>>18061351
>Slavic ultranationalism
why are you like this? Your HDI is lower, your HIV rate is higher, your criminality is higher, your IQ scores are lower, you are uniformly poorer than Germany, your KDR's are always abysmal in every war because they reflect the impoverishment of human quality among your nations.

>>18061352
>german civlisation
they are so cilisied that they got kicked out from 10.000 different places
or let me guess, it was those 10.000 places fault?

>>18061348
>my theory
I have a suggestion. How about just no?
>>18061351
>public health science isnt a thing anon, trust me bro
this checks out schlomo, carry on

>>18061365
Something definitely happened at babi yar because the Jews were making IEDs and blowing up Germans and other Jews in the ghettos

>>18061360
as opposed to what? your country which you wont even mention due to shame?
>>18061363
>10.000
more like 1 place, the USSR, and yes the USSR was in the wrong as evidenced by the fact they fragmented while Germany unified.

>>18061362
>better at wars
>better at technology
>won the space race
even the German govorment suck Putin cock to this day, they would suck it more but their USA masters forbidden them to do so
>>18061365
something was cleary wrong with german health science since 15 million of them died

>>18061368
this look like a lot places of them
why they got kicked out form every single one?

>>18061359
>kill burn etc
Or just delouse and give clean clothes? Is that so hard? Yes.

>>18061362
Poles were extermely angry at both russia and germany pre war senpai. No sea access you see?
>>18061363
>Athens loses wars = not civilised.
truly genius anon

>>18061376
If a body is already dead and you don't have a way to dispose of them how to you immediately reduce the risk of typhus? You burn the bugs

>>18061367
Thats just jews being jews. Read the Jewish revolutionary spirit by EM Jones.
>>18061372
Not of communicable disease anon. pic rel is for you.

>>18061383
how they died then?

>>18061383
>Jews being communist terrorists
>A couple hundred or a few thousand get offed
>Germans: we killed 400,000 Jewish communist terrorists on this day, there is no reason to resist us anymore
>Jews: let's say they actually did kill 400k Jew lol

>>18061375
Clearly this is everyone else's fault.

>>18061381
Why would the body be dead already? Who or what killed it?
>>18061389
bombs, fires, gunshot, disease starvation, natural causes.

>>18061383
>GERMS
>not carrying diseases
are you retarded?

>>18061392
>Why would a typhus corpse covered in bed bugs be dead
It's a mystery

>>18061390
>Germans are liars
?????

>>18061392
seems like german HEALTH science was not good enough to stop those deaths
I'm glad the allies steped in to save germans since they cleary can't rule over themselvs

>>18061390
Actually most likely as per the Einsatzgruppen study. Well played.
>>18061394
>germans carry diseases
No but you are.
>>18061395
probably old age/ heart disease - most common cause.

>>18061397
>Jews are communist terrorists
>The Germans lied about how many Jews they killed!
>Jew: the le Germans lied?

>>18061404
You're the ones claiming the Germans lied.

>>18061397
Known to boast occasionally.
>>18061399
Not their fault, someone keeps shooting at them and bombing their water facilities.

>>18061401
If they're dying of old age and heart disease they can be buried normally and not trucked around EVROPA to find the fastest burn pit.

>>18061405
I'm also saying that Jews were blowing up ghettos full of Jews and ukranians/poles

>>18061401
>germans don't carry diseases
are you staying that they are not human? thank God warcrimes laws only protect humans

>>18061407
>boasting about the number of people you have killed
>civilised

>>18061407
>schaise everyone is bombing us, hates us and kick us out but it's everyone else fault!!
lol

>>18061411
Examples of these ghettos being blown up?

>>18061421
Warsaw and kiev, I bet Krakow was bad too

>>18061410
>>18061410
This is so true. Which is why they werent bussed around - makes no sense and the family wouldnt be happy.
>>18061412
>germans not human
picrel shows german as greatest human ever, so nah

>>18061411
>the holocaust is not real but also if it is real then the jews did it!
you are running out of ideas don't you

>>18061422
The Warsaw ghetto was blown up by Jews?

>>18061427
Yes they set it on fire and killed a bunch of people

>>18061423
>litterally incapable of not talking like a nigger

>>18061423
*as a bunch of vermin that got stomped out or killed itself\
fixed

>>18061417
>communist empire gone - but why? we no invade anyone?

kek

i heard it was 8 million

>>18061429
Evidence?

>12 million ethnic Germans kicked out of various countries
Sounds kinda sus. I bet it was a few hundred thousand, at most. And they deserved it.

>>18061425
partisan warfare be bad anon
>>18061430
>upset at word "nah"
faggot
>>18061432
noble suicides commies dont know anything about that - thus no more commies, plenty of nazis still.

>>18061439
Jews claim in 1943 they "valiantly" fought the Germans by mostly just hiding in the ghetto and setting it on fire

>>18061407
germans do love to boast i give you that

>>18061444
>crew
>fresh af
Speak like a white person

>>18061446
Evidence?

>>18061444
nazi whore stuffing her fat mouth with cyniade after she murdered her children is noble indeed, try to follow her step

>>18061443
>we commies/ poles kicked you germans out by the millions! hahaha!
>only a few etc

anon I.....

>>18061452
You're denying ethnic Germans were kicked out?

>>18061450
>the Warsaw Ghetto was set on fire and destroyed .... during the 1943 uprising. The Jewish resistance fighters fought valiantly against overwhelming German military power
Don't look into who set the fires lol

>>18061448
its a meme you blatant homosexual.
>>18061451
thats eva braun dufus. No one even knows or cares about commie brides and gfs. jealousy is natural.

>>18061458
>talking like a nigger is a meme
Do better.

>>18061456
Who set the fires?

>>18061455
>thinks germans are bad for ethnic cleansing
>does ethnic cleansing and thinks its cool.

anon I....

>>18061462
You're not supposed to ask that. Just like you're not supposed to ask why Germans were executing people

>>18061460
No

>>18061465
Why were germans executing people anon?

>>18061465
Who set the fires and why were Germans executing people?

>>18061458
>thats eva braun dufus
you seem to don't know the scale
and she didn't have children, your knowladge is pretty limited despite claiming to be a nazi

>>18061463
Criminals being deported back to their home country is not ethnic cleansing.

>>18061470
>why violent nazi apes were executing people?
it's their culture to murder those who can't fight back, that's why they lost to Soviet Union who actually had an army

>>18061474
Youre referring to Goebbels wife anon. And yes, even commies sometimes go out with dignity, See Allende.

Not often though right? Too chickenshit. picrel you?

>>18061480
>Please do not look into the Holocaust the Germans were illogical monsters please

>>18061480
>it's their culture to murder those who can't fight back, that's why they lost to Soviet Union who actually had an army

Too many wrong statements in one sentence. Want to have another stab at that?

"The Partisans is a 1979 sculpture by the Polish-American sculptor Andrzej Pitynski that has been exhibited in various places around Boston since 1983. The sculpture depicts the "cursed soldiers" – anti-communist Polish partisans who fought against the communist regime following the communist takeover of Poland in the aftermath of World War II. 8000 partisans were killed, around 5000 were sentenced to death and another 21 000 underground fighters died in prisons and camps. The monument is dedicated to freedom fighters worldwide. Source: Museums and Memorials. Commemorating the Victims of Communist Dictatorships. 2018. Edit. Anna Kaminsky."

>>18061487
>>18061493
>>18061486
When a vermin attacks you, you don't waste time to think what reason it made up, you respond with a superior force and crush the vermin, do I really have to teach this to you?

>>18061500
Oh I'm sure the nazis knew exactly why communists were infiltrating the cities and setting them on fire

>>18061501
Why were they?

>>18061501
don't care about the reson a nazi made up, the most time you are allowed to waste for a nazi is for how long it takes for you to pull the trigger

Resistance to the Soviet regime in estonia 1940-1991

Resistance to the occupation in Estonia began immediately in 1940. For instance, opposition candidates were nominated for the staged puppet parliamentary elections in July 1940. This was bloodless civil disobedience, but in the summer of 1941, when the Second World War reached Estonia, armed resistance began. Especially after the deportations of June 14, 1941, men and women sought refuge from Soviet persecution and terror by fleeing to the forests. They organised themselves into local units, and despite a shortage of weapons, the partisans, known as Forest Brothers, were able to seize power in many parts of southern Estonia and raise Estonian flags before the German troops arrived.

https://vastupanu.communistcrimes.org/en/

>>18061503
Pretty typical of communists globally to retreat into their own cities and villages to use them as cover to then launch terrorist operations to kill fellow citizens

>>18061511
Why were they killing their fellow citizens?

>>18061516
It's called terrorism

>>18061518
Why were they doing terrorism against their own citizens?

>>18061519
Because it causes panic

>>18061500
>Soviets dindu nuffin

kek

>>18061503
International communism. Long term policy plank of comintern.

"The violently enforced claim to shaping all areas of life, rightly called ‘totalitarian’, led to the destruction of countless existences and the annihilation of millions and millions of people. All communist parties and their power apparatuses went through repetitive ‘purges’, including show trials and shattered courts, mutual denunciations and masochistic self-criticism."
https://communistcrimes.org/en/communism-and-terror

>>18061173
That anon is implying that Jews would be more likely to make up a larger percentage of the elderly in the camp on account of them being more likely to live into their 70s than gentiles. Either for socio-economic reasons or otherwise.
That the % distribution of religious affiliation isn't consistent across age groups.

>>18061524
>a long term policy plank of communism is to do terrorism on your own people instead of the hostile imperialist occupying them
Gonna need some evidence for thus.

>>18061511
Soviets saved the world from nazi vermin tyranny, you hardly can do a better thing than this

>>18061525
>Jews live longer to a significant rather than negligible degree

Really anon? Or speculation?

>>18061524
the only way i feel bad for a shoot nazi is that his life was far more worthless than the bullet that blown his brain out

>>18061527
I don't know how come every time the US ever fought communists they hid in their holes and killed civilians instead of fighting?

Aside from the Chinese who "died valiantly"?

>>18061526
>>18061526
Infiltration in order to effect a takeover. Standard shit - the CIA did the same. Partisan warfare local executions to encourage the others to comply. All normal stuff.
>>18061527
Soviets spread communism and caused numerous wars before and after - theyre so bad that no neo commies exist. They dont argue for themselves.

>>18061534
>Soviets spread communism
Enough about the good things that they did, just easily destorying nazis was enough imho

>>18061530
>Commies doesnt feel bad for shooting nazis
>shoots everyone else instead

anon I...

>>18061539
Why would communists care about more dead civies? The imperialists started it!

>>18061537
>easily destroying

millions dead, communism disabled, then gone. No more commies in 21st century. Plenty of Nazis.

>>18061540
dude youre supposed to be the good guys remember?
Read the script dont just go off memory dude.

>>18061543
The good guys huh? If we're just looking at how communists conduct war then the communist is objective evil

>>18061542
>Plenty of Nazis
I fucking wish, it would be fun to slaughter the vermin again but todays neonaiz larpers like you are all chickenhawks

>>18061534
>takeover the place that you already run
??????

>>18061539
i mean, lot of nazis surrender too, and we let them go once they rebulid the shit they destroy

>>18061544
nazis are evil
Soviets didn't always play nice when during the war but sacrafices are needed to stop the spread of nazi vermin

>>18061546
Dude commies like you cant fight. You and commies like antifa are literally state sponsored terrorists in the west. Nazis are banned by the states. Golden Dawn guys are still in jail.

>>18061554
No why? Did I say that?
>>18061557
Commies get well treated and help build the Reich.
>>18061578
Nazis are highly moral and good for everyone. Commies and communism is evil.

>>18061546
>>18061581
pic extremely related

>>18061542
Communists proudly march and wave their banners in every major city on Earth. Nazis are too gutless and raped to even post a photo of themselves heiling.

>>18061589
You said they blew up their own ghettos.

>>18061581
>like you cant fight
yeah, we only like, won the war and denied you nuclear weapons, why are nazis so weak?
>>18061589
nazis are only moral as fertilizer

>>18061578
Well they pick their enemies wisely because communists are indefensible

If anything the US assisting communists is a stain on its honor

>>18061542
which countries nazis ruled after 1945?

>>18061602
thats not me saying that.
>>18061597
facts. capitalism loves egalitarian diversity
>>18061598
commies are so dangerous they march around get no votes and every ngo loves them. literal astro turfed shit which is why they dont do online anymore.

>>18061603
Nazis arent weak. Hitler was in the trenches while Stalin was robbing banks We're the best, youre just capitalism's best friend which is why they helped you invade europe. Youre both liberal as fuck.

>>18061618
The USSR and NATO. Until 1988.

>>18061622
>hitler
>skinny
>vegetarian
>onions cuck
>mailboy who didn't fire a shoot
>0 children
>gay for rommel


>STALIN
>Alpha male
>Killed people
>Revolutionist
>Muscualar Cacuasian Bvll
>5 children

complete stomp, like Bargation

>>18061630
>Stalin
>Pissed off Iranian cab driver

These only cover deaths in Auschwitz-I, and there are only two years of records. The people mass murdered in Auschwitz-II didn't get death certificates, and all the women, children, elderly, crippled, sick who didn't pass selection were never even admitted to the camp and registered in the camp paperwork. They were taken immediately to the crematoria buildings for gassing and killed.

>>18061622
where do nazis march?
>inb4 2 more weeks and we will be everywhere

>>18061648
Theres zero evidence of a selection process leading to execution

>>18061630
Hitler is skinny because he's literally fighting on the front while stalin is merely a gangster supported by big capitalist money against the peasants. Big difference. Stalin ddint mean any of it. It was just about being in power. Thats why no one follows him any more. A Georgian gangster supplied by international finance. Soviets road Studebacker, dodge and ford trucks in operation bagration.

>>18061661
Thats the hygiene delousing process. Literally not murder as you can see in the photo - no one getting murdered.

>>18061664
>fighting
he was a mailboy, and he was skinny because he was a weak vegetarian cuck who didn't smoke or drink because his boyfriend Rommel would be displeased

>>18061661
Picture of people leaving a shower instead of being gassed debunks the Holocaust

Notice the insane duality of the schizo bankers' minds. Either the nazis are literally everywhere in control of the whole world and right about to shoah them, or they don't exist at all.

>>18061671
germans have some weird delousing methods

>>18061678
>guy who think he is talking to bankers is calling everyone a schizo

>>18061682
Weird how they took a picture standing in a gas chamber looking out of the gas chamber to photograph 10 bodies being singed instead of turning around 180 degrees and taking a picture of Jews supposedly getting gassed

I guess we'll never know if the Holocaust happened with geniuses like this being the best source truthers have

>>18061687
where did those bodies came from?

>>18061687
those are just the bodies outside the giant gaping pit (visible in aerial photography) they are throwing them into

>>18061690
Ah yes the giant gaping pit of 10 bodies

How many hundreds of thousands did they say were actually there that we can't see?

>>18061674
He ran between trenches, thus the medals. Took part in a few offensives - got numerous medals.
Rommel would give him the medals himself given the timing
>>18061682
Thats not delousing. People died in Auschwitz, they just werent murdered there.
>>18061687
They literally are sending their best anon.

>>18061697
Germans at Dresden weren't murdered, they simply died because they happen to be near falling bombs or the fire

>>18061697
nazis weren't murdered, they just didn't dance too well on the rope

>>18061699
May we see the bombs used in Auschwitz?

This thread sucks. I hope all of you on both sides get explosive diarrhea.

>>18061704
I say bombs? My bad, allies dropped Typhus vaccines at Dresden

>>18061696
That's not the pit. The pit is below ground level. Which is why the guy on the left is standing at knee level with the ground, he is standing on the edge of the pit, and they are throwing those bodies into the pit.

>>18061687
>why the enslaved guy who managed to sneak camera didn't took perfect hollywood photos

>>18061708
They died from vaccine bombs?

Why dont you just say what you mean anon?

>>18061714
From the gas chamber?

>>18061710
yeah right the what, 100x10 pit with unknown depths has 100,000 people in it, you just can't see them at all

for anyone too stupid or lazy or both to see that they are clearly throwing bodies into a giant pit in the ground, one of the several pits outside the crematoria which are also visible on aerial photographs

you can see the far edge better on the other scans of the photo with higher contrast between the smoke, like this one >>18061682

>>18061727
>obfuscated magic pit has 100,000 bodies in it

>>18061720
>They died from vaccine bombs?
I guess so, but they weren't murderd since it was just a vaccine, accidends happen yknow?

>>18061708
Wounded badly in ww1. Btfo's allied forces in Italy. No wonder you hate him.
>>18061727
>dead people at Auschwitz
what are you trying to say anon? dont tell me youre still accusing nazis of mass murder - that shit is over.

>>18061714
>can't spell
>thinks Hollywood does photography
this is the creme de la curry of the pajeet internet defense force mercenaries

>>18061734
what do you mean you "guess"?
What are you really trying to say?

>>18061729
Kek. See you in Valhalla brother

>>18061737
jeets are superior to nazis who lost the only war they fought and then got slaughtered by millions, even fagtler loved them

>>18061736
Masses of freshly dead bodies being thrown into an-open air burning pit, because there wasn't enough crematory capacity inside of the crematoria itself despite the massive Topf equipment that could handle thousands of bodies per day, in August of 1944 well after the typhus outbreak at Auschwitz was over? That makes zero sense at all.

>>18061739
>what do you mean you "guess"?
you can't read? impotent neonazis neets don't send their best i see

>>18061744
>they cremated the bodies in the pits
factually impossible

>>18061746
Youre literally saying that dresden people were killed by vaccine "bombs". You standing by that or taking another stab here anon? >>18061744
> That makes zero sense at all.
Because its bullshit, Nazis didnt mass murder any jews or anyone else in Auschwitz.

>>18061751
nobody ever did a mass murder, WW2 was people l holding hands

>>18061747
Impossible how? There are aerial photos of giant pits in the ground outside the krema with massive smoke coming from them, just like the Sonderkommando photo demonstrated at ground level but at a bird's eye view.

>>18061754
>I cannot respond so I must do a sacarsm because im a 13 year old femoid.
>>18061755
>air photos
Stop pretending thats a thing. That was one of the first things debunked.

>>18061763
>planes don't exist
the poltranny is losing it

>>18061770
>photos dont exist
/his/tranny malding because no knowledge.

>>18061773
you are posting on his, too afraid of displaying mexico flag?

>>18061773
>give me proofs
>noooo those proofs are fabricated by jooos!!
/pol/tranny melty

>>18061128 (OP)
>russian jews found some papers that say six gorillion jews were murderated by le ebil natoids

sounds like typical jew tarded bullshit

>>18061780
I only post history on here and politics on there.
>>18061787
>cringe homo talk
debunked - https://nukebook.org/document/air-photos/215/

"In 1979, in the wake of the famous TV miniseries Holocaust, the CIA released a few air photos of the Auschwitz Camp in a brochure titled The Holocaust Revisited, claiming they prove that mass murder was indeed committed there at the time these photos were taken (Brugioni/Poirier 1979). Yet, a thorough analysis of the illustrations shows that their claims are partly unsubstantiated, and partly based on quite crude alterations of the original photos."

Try something else

>>18061984
>The same air photo as before but with smoke added via Photoshop to show how it would have had to look if the witnesses were telling the truth: massive formation of smoke.
So the weak argument here is that if they were burning bodies, the entire landscape would have been totally covered in vast amounts of smoke that would have blocked out the sky and totally obscured the ground? That's not how open air cremation works.

Nazis used the same exact method of outdoor cremation in other places (Dresden and the Klooga concentration camp) and exactly what the survivor testimony independently claimed was going on in the burning pits: "grills" made of metal I-beams or railroad tracks then layered with bodies. We can see the smoke coming off the pyre, doesn't look like it's enough to block out the sky.

>250 kg of fresh firewood to burn one corpse
this is an absurd claim, that you need 250kg of firewood to burn a single corpse

>>18062259
NTA. The pictured amount of wood is never going to burn through those corpses, even if they're already completely dessicated. Cremation is a very energy intensive task.

>>18062259
A human body is roughly one big bag of water, so you do indeed need a large amount of fuel for each. The dresden pyre doesnt all these bodies were consumed quickly by the flames, far from it.

Try another

>>18062269
The Nazis left an unfinished pyre at Klooga layered with wood. Does this look like 250kg of wood allocated for each corpse? Wiernik who was a Sonderkommando said they also used added fuels like old motor oil and benzene to start the fires.

>>18062293
>cringe
Again, full bodied bodies. Wiernik is examined and found a complete liar.

Lemme guess, you dont want to know any more....just go ahead as usual and insult the nazis and pat yourself on the back

>>18062259
>Here's a picture of burning bodies
>This is how cremation works
Shut up

>>18061727
Yet no pit has ever been found on premises of any so-called death camp. Let alone a pit with hundreds of thousands of bodies in it.

>>18062342
Wiernik was vindicated actually when Caroline Colls found baked tile in the ground where the gas chamber was. Which is exactly what he claimed, that the gas chamber was lined with baked tile.

>>18061799
These documents actually exonerate the Nazis of most of the evil they were accused of, i.e. the systematic mass murder of Jews and other people. They did put people in internment camps and thus are responsible for the many hundreds of thousands who died in those camps due to disease outbreaks and starvation, but there isn't a shred of proof anywhere in the Soviet documents which proves there was a program of systematic mass murder. It even reveals that Jews were, while over-represented in the camps based on their population, not even the majority of inmates present, nor even the majority who died.

>>18062417
Those documents only cover Auschwitz-I, you idiot. So there were no deaths at Auschwitz-II then?

>>18061138
what do we go by then?
'eyewitness' accounts in ballpoint pens?

>>18062420
Auschwitz has long been held up as the main example of the Nazi's extermination plan for the Jews, and we now see that it wasn't an extermination plan of any kind, nor was it even really focused on Jews, though Jews were one of the main people imprisoned there. If Auschwitz itself is revealed to have only ever suffered mass mortality due to disease (and later starvation, documented in photographs once the camps were liberated) then what does that say about the likelihood of other camps? In the first place, every single camp inspected by the western Allies found no evidence of any program of mass murder, and it was only those camps held by the Soviet Union which were said to have been "death camps". And now we find that one of those camps which they attested was used to facilitate a genocide was in fact nothing of the sort.

It's very clear that the Soviet Union fabricated much of the evidence used against the Nazis to accuse them of Genocide, and hid the real evidence of what happened. As to why they would do this, when the evidence that exists is plenty to hold the Nazis accountable for killing hundreds of thousands of people, it is a matter of degree. Simply put: the Soviets had done far, far worse than the Nazis and had done it deliberately rather than simply allowing people in their care to starve and die of disease, the Soviets deliberately killed millions of their own people. So it would ring very hollow indeed for Stalin to accuse the Nazis of a great evil unless it was puffed up considerably.

So they lied about the number of people who died, lied about the manner of death, and made the Nazis out to be uniquely evil monsters whose deeds were so awful that it almost totally erased all memory of the evils committed by the Soviet Union just recently.

>>18062447
Nazi copypasta that in no way addresses the point made.

>>18062386
CSC sturdy was examined and found to have turned up little. She promised she'd give us the details on more that she found but that was over 8 years ago. She's been silent since. Wiernik was studied too.

>>18062420
All of Auschwitz was examined and found wanting without response. Easily told by how hard you find it to qactually bring any hard evidence up.

>>18061128 (OP)
If anything, the Auschwitz Death Books prove that stormfaggots are just lying again when they babble about typhus being the main cause of death in camps. Only about 10% of deaths during the peak of typhus outbreak in Auschwitz was caused by typhus according to own German records.
And obviously hundreds of thousands of people executed on the arrival - primarily Jews - were not included in these statistics of camp's inmates.

>>18062547
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>>>18061280
>That's why boming of Dresden was a charity, they cleansed the city with fire which eliminted plaguue and starvation

Theres no record of any executions on arrival. No record either of any death by gassing. Start again. think of something.

>>18062547
>Theres no record of any executions on arrival. No record either of any death by gassing. Start again. think of something.

weird. start again;


Theres no record of any executions on arrival. No record either of any death by gassing. You can read the link given by OP Start again. think of something.

>>18062585
>Theres no record of any executions on arrival. No record either of any death by gassing.
But plenty of other evidence, testimonies and confessions among them.

>>18062597
this is like some kind of reformed holocaust religious movement that is trying to redefine the orthodoxy for a modern era while ensuring that the kernel about jews being murderated by le ebil natzoids remains intact

typical jew tarded gibberish from the likely suspects, probably motivated by the fact that their original orthodoxy around the subject was complete bullshit that never stood up to any scrutiny

>>18062610
>their original orthodoxy around the subject was complete bullshit that never stood up to any scrutiny
try again; only a few details had to be corrected according to new evidence, the "orthodoxy" is as strong as ever.

>>18062623
Just out of curiosity, what are the strongest pieces of evidence and for which parts of said orthodoxy?

>>18062628
Millions of witnesses.

>>18062623
six gorillion jewbs being gas chambered to death in ritual murders for satan and then having all of their bodies completely incinerated to hide all of the evidence was obviously completely retarded jew tarded nonsense and so the orthodoxy of the holocaust religion has to go through a reformation in order to ensure that the jew victim card can still be taken seriously and relied upon moving forward.

good luck with your retarded jew scheming, you jew tards could literally not be any more obvious and stupid about it.

>>18062637
Every-fucking-body in the whole Eastern Europe knew that the Germs are hunting and murdering Jews. The ghettos were in the main cities. _Hiding_ Jews (or any other help for them like selling them food which they were basically NOT supposed to get) was punished by death over there. People typically know what they are "legally" allowed to do.
Technical details of a crime (so to speak) had to be established - not for the least because of documented policy of Germans destroying the evidence but the unprecedented crime having taken place is beyond discussion.

>>18062629
All of whom have a VERY strong political reason to support a certain view of events.
What about the physical evidence?
I think that room full of shoes or something is a pretty decent one.

>>18062694
>room full of shoes or something
You are not being funny. You are pathetic.

>>18062707
What? It's a good piece of physical evidence.
Certainly takes a lot of people not needing their shoes anymore to fill a whole room with shoes. Now I don't know why the shoes didn't get shipped out and distributed as they're a valuable resource during wartime but I'm sure there's some bureaucratic reason there.

>>18062716
First you say that the heap is too small, then you say that it shouldn't be there at all. You xises are hard to satisfy.

>>18062733
Are you a chatbot?

>>18062738
I see, if it's not ze joos it's the chatbots that are all to get you.
Your ISP is likely discriminating against you as well with all those demands for paying for their service.

>>18061984
>keep spaming his neonazi site that nobody will ever enter
poltroon melty, follow your idols

>>18062623
>orthodoxy is strong as ever
Prove it.

Who is fighting for your narrative?
Who is defending it?
What new research have your side brought?

Answer none.

>>18062629

OP HERE

The holocaust does NOT have millions of witnesses. It has a few hundred that can be broken down into relevance.

When examined, all those who claim to have seen something bad are discredited by their own testimony.

would you like to know more?

>>18064055
They're already entering our sites. You can't really know about the holocaust unless you look up entries in the encyclopedia.

>>18064155
>>18064158
Did you got schizophrenia from meth overuse?

>>18064152
>Who is fighting for your narrative?
everywhere around the world is moraly aceptable to punch nazis, that's why all those chickenhawsk like you ran away to internet

>>18064179
OP here
Im not a schizophrenic. You are. It's why you're mad all the time for no reason.

>>18064192
Nowhere is it morally acceptable to punch nazis. That's a meme that powerful Jews told the left to try. Now antifa gets 8 years in jail for attacking ICE.

>>18064573
The only reason nazis aren't on the streets so much is because often the state backs them up when they're beaten to a pulp by nazis.

>>18064573
nazis are vermin so it's always ok to punch, shoot or kill them
and since white people don't breed anymore, every dead nazis is a great success,

Honestly, after seeing how hateful anti-Nazis are, and how calm and rational the Nazis in this thread have been... It's made me reconsider whether they really were the bad guys.

why neonazis always resort to samefagging when enraged? are they really that scared of a normal confrontation

>>18064589
the more vermin to slaughter the better, we have pleny of bullets

>>18064581
>>18064192
You won't do shit because you're a jew tarded retard.
>I'm gonna do the violence and murderate you for wrong think because twitter upvotes
you "people" are not even sentient

>>18064660
I won't have to do shit cos neonazi don't exist outside of the internet
But the moment your disfigured ruined by drugs maws appear on the streets, axes, bottles and pistols will be ready, there will be vermin extermination

>>18064666
>666
>im gonna murder all white people who want to live
thanks Satan, interesting take.

>>18064669
who cares about killing white people? they are not breeding anyway, just wait 50 year and puff, gone

>>18064581
>>18064607
>seething commietard jew
Its always bad to harm Nazis. Harming a Nazi is harming your own people.
>>18064666
>Nazis dont exist.
We exist everywhere dufus. We dress normally now. Talk to each other, go to conferences. Do huge protests across the world.

>>18064675
there are literally more white people on earth right now than at any point before in all of history. You are a retarded monkey that got misclassified as a person who is being used as a pawn in a gambit for the global domination of an ethnic minority which will enslave and destroy you once your usefulness has come to its end.

>>18061138
She we count the votes each candidate got this election or just what we think they might have gotten?

>>18064680
nazis are not humans so it's okay to punch, torture or murder them, we already see this happening, unlike your imaginary big nazi protests

>>18064682
Funny thing is their usefulness has already come to an end, jews have cancelled pride parades and the banks and media are no longer even attempting to tell us men can become women.
Funny how quickly it all happened after they chanted free palestine.

>>18064682
>retarded methhead neonazi can't do basic math
i'm not suprised
but i'm glad you are not breding any more of your disgusted spawn

>>18064690
How quickly the science unsettles

>>18064690
>>18064697
why white "people" can't breed? it's the fault of meth or the porn addiciton?

>>18064690
The realized this golem just wasnt worth it

>>18064693
there are literally more white people on earth right now than there ever has been before at any point in history. That is the reality, that is the truth, and also the truth is that you are a fool too stupid to understand the world around you or the forces at work within it.

>>18064701
why white "people" can't breed? it's pretty fun to watch as their avarage age is already over 50

>>18061128 (OP)
How many Volga Tartars or Lipka Tartars died in the camps?

>>18064700
there is one golem that is currently selfterminating! the technology

>>18064690
No no no! Thats not the jews thats capital! Capital just didnt care for 10 years as they criticized capital and white people and then suddenly cared when they criticized israel!

>>18064713
Jews have nuclear weapons so why would they care what cattle is thinking about them

>>18064706
You monkey brained apes are tiresome, you think that repeating your lies over and over will magically cause them to come true because you're cognitive faculties are that deficient. I should feel pity for you because of your profound shortcomings but all I have in me for your kind is now what you deserve, scorn.

>>18064722
You will soon get what you deserve, you already getting it in south africa :)

>>18064726
you won't do shit, you "people" are weak and retarded cowards that can never amount to anything.

>>18064732
Pissing on you roaches was the norm for some time so I don't blame you for mistaking it for rain :) just don't squeal too hard at the end piggy

>>18064742
do something then, faggot... you won't because you're a weak and pathetic loser.

>>18064713
“Capital” has them well trained to fight the totally real enazi menace before any attempt is made at fighting “capital”. Otherwise there might be another holocaust, and thats more important than the peoples revolution. They play the part well. Thanks to their hard work no one has seen a nazi in 80 years! But they must be vigilant. No time to focus on “capital” for now

>>18064719
Nuclear weapons aren't a perfect weapon, they require a symmetric conflict with clear targets.

Both Bush Jr. and Putin pondered usage of small tactical nukes against Iraqi and Syrian rebels, then they realized how senseless that move would have been

>>18064747
>do something
i don't need to :-) see picrel
you are sooo fucked, hahaha

>>18064760
you are too stupid to understand the world around you

>>18064768
piggies didn't breed for +40 years, just give it a rest and enjoy the final solution to the piglets problem, it's better than coping
+ it's not like you will be ever loved anyway so you won't help with the demograhpic recovery

>>18064773
There is no problem with the population of whites and the only threat to their existence is habitat encroachment by invasive species.

but you will not see this truth, because you are blind and retarded. Also, you won't do shit because you are weak and stupid. You know in your bones that if you were to strike out against whites and make them know you are a threat then they would remove all of you kind from existence without even exerting a small portion of their strength.

>>18064789
>There is no problem with the population
Better for me if you think that way :-) well, it's not like it can be salvaged anyone, i will be enjoying the sound of squealing on the streets soon

>>18064792
you won't do shit because you are weak and stupid

>>18064794
i won't have to do anything since we already won, but i can, just for fun

>>18064798
There are literally more white people on earth right now than there has ever been before at any point in history. Your retarded delusions about whites going extinct because they won't breed exponentially under environmental conditions without adequate resources is an indication of your profound ignorance and possible mental retardation.

>>18064810
keep telling yourself that, it will soothe your pain

>>18064813
you lack the mental faculties to intuit the emotional states of humans because you are not one, please refrain from pretending like you can or are.

>>18064700
These people really think they are the future, lol

>>18064829
>vermin who will soon be extinct is telling anyone who is or who is not a human
lol

>>18064845
being gay and wanting to kill all white people doesn't make you "anti-fascist", if anything you are a devil's pawn and probably nothing more positive than that can be said for you.

>>18064895
>demon worshiping nazi cries about devil
?