Thread 18062402

Where were latinos ranked within segregation?

>>18062402 (OP)
White when it was convenient and black when it wasn't. Browns were always "other" in Anglo society even today

Hispanics faced discrimination, but it was more along the lines of being a second class citizen, rather than a black person .

Hispanics in the US had a notable history of fighting for their civil liberties by fighting for their legal status as Whites within the American social structure, rather than fighting for equality between everyone. Hispnanics could actually integrate and assimilate. The ball breaking hispanics got was more along the lines of "you're not REALLY TRULY white" rather than "let's hang this guy for being black"

>>18062775
blacks were never hanged for no reason lol

>>18062402 (OP)
>Where were latinos ranked within segregation?
they basically didn't exist, so it was a non issue
race mixing, which creates brown people, was illegal

Jim Crow defined "white" as "everything but black" so yes beaners would have been considered legally white.

>>18062799
beaners didn't even exist in the south at the time and if they did they would probably be treated the same as blacks seeing as they probably weren't citizens

>>18062799
bullshit
the one drop rule remains the standard even to this day

>>18062789
It's hyperbole, the point is people weren't tarring and feathering the spics back in the day, that was a black thing

>>18062801
>beaners didn't even exist in the south at the time
Someone's never heard of Texas

>>18062805
blacks weren't tarred and feathered either that was a sort punishment restricted for neerdowells and not rapist murderers and thieves

>>18062806
Yeah like I guess if you went to south texas most people treated the beaners there like niggers because none of them would actually be citizens

>>18062799
that's what broke the system after WWII. servicemen came back with Japanese brides who found that they were considered legally white and thus the separate but equal meme fell apart when it became obvious that Jim Crow laws were targeted at blacks and not actually meant to give every race separate but equal accommodations.

>>18062814
well it was to prevent really any sort of race mixing wasn't it

>>18062814
It would have been inevitable because Hitler made institutionalized racism pretty uncool and unfashionable.

God damn, you jew tarded retards are obnoxious. No Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia have not always been at war, and America was not always infested with brownoid race mixed slave laborers. You jew tarded retards think that if you just spam your bullshit lies often enough that you can redefine the past in order to control the present, its obnoxious and too obvious which is why nobody believes your bullshit.

>>18062828
well that was actually all the actual communists and socialists in US congress in the 40's

>>18062402 (OP)
Because beaners are civilized. Most are honorable people. They may tend towards low intellect, but they tend to accept manual labor jobs with appreciation and hard work.

They don't create anything like nigger ghettos where a man will rob his own mother for another crack rock.

Not to mention, back in the mid 60s, seeing a Mexican out of the Southwest or a Cuban outside of Florida, was an absolute rarity. The tended to stay in their own pockets of the US.

>>18062810
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tejanos

>>18062837
yeah that's not who was living in south texas in the 60's, it would be <95% illegals from who knows where, some rotten butthole south of the border

No clue, but I don't hear boomer beaners bitch and complain about that time the way I hear blacks, so whatever they went through must've not been that bad.

>>18062844
if we stopped pumping blacks full of hot air they'd probably stop blowing it

>>18062402 (OP)
At that time I believe the descendants of Spanish colonial settlers still greatly outnumbered Mestizo immigrants, and those guys were considered white. Some of them, like Leander Perez, were diehard segregationists.

>>18062836
Blacks at least used to have communities, families, churches etc until welfare destroyed them forever.

>>18062837
>Genuine Tejano music is descended from a mixture of German and Czechoslovak polka and oom papa sounds and Mexican Spanish strings, and is similar to the French folk music

>>18062775
blatantly untrue. latino people were considered nonwhite and weren't allowed to marry white people and there were multiple campaigns where the us government deported thousands of people for being brown.

>>18062799
that's not true.
Hispanics were segregated by law and custom almost as much as blacks though to lower degree than southern euros

>>18063181
>latino people were considered nonwhite
Though Hispanics weren't seen as white by the Anglos, they were generally legally white and thought of themselves as such

>and weren't allowed to marry white people
Only if the Hispanic person was determined to be "black" or "Asian"

>and there were multiple campaigns where the us government deported thousands of people for being brown.
For being illegals.

>>18062846
Perez was a Canarian, not a Mexican

>>18064098
>they were generally legally white and thought of themselves as such
What evidence is there for this? Mexican and white were separate categorizes on census since 1930s. Intermarriage between whites and mexicans was illegal in California

>>18064104
So Canarians who settled in Mexico aren't white, but Canarians who settled in Louisiana are?

>>18062402 (OP)
"Latinos" as they're called today weren't yet seen as a distinct racial group strictly separate from white people at this time. They were seen as basically Spaniards with too much Indian blood, not completely white, mutts in short. Miscegenation laws were thus malleable. Mexicans and others generally thought of themselves as whites and they would fervently defend their rights as whites.

The creation of Hispanics as a sort of racial group would rise in the second half of the 20th century. Before they were seen as a third race, miscegenation laws were gone.

>>18064126
>Mexican and white were separate categorizes on census since 1930s.
This new category was literally overturned the very next census because of backlash from Mexican-Americans.

>Intermarriage between whites and mexicans was illegal in California
Proof?

>>18064133
What? I'm just saying that Perez wasn't part of the old Mexican population of the Southwest, his family migrated from the Canaries

>>18064147
OP said Latinos, not Mexicans.

>>18064176
Are Mexican not included in Latinos?

>>18064190
Yes they are, I'm just saying that the Spaniards who settled in Louisiana and Florida should also be considered Latinos.

>>18064196
Okay?

>>18062799
Jim Crow wasn't the same in every state. Some of them also excluded other groups.

>>18062402 (OP)
It depends. Since law mostly focused on just blacks and whites, people who weren't either were sometimes classified with the whites or with the blacks depending on circumstance. There wasn't consistency.

Generally, someone who is hispanic would likely be allowed to dine in a whites only restaurant more often than not. Especially if they have more European ancestry.
>>18062802
One drop rule was never universal.

>>18062402 (OP)
They were legally classified as White for a short period between 1961-1963, but a supreme court ruled that they were colored and had to use the same facilities as black people.
>>18062789
>>18062801
These are literal retards who are not even from America.
>>18062846
Literally 0 evidence to back this retarded meme that gets parroted on this board. The last governor and local prominent figures of Mexican southwest were all mestizo or even quadroons.

>>18066081
you think black people were lynched because they were black?
>they were innocent because they were lynched
what kind of black israelite nonsense are you on

>18066087
What got blown up in Russia today?

>>18064098
No, they targeted people based on skin color. They deported American citizens.