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Anonymous No.18066096 [Report] >>18066098 >>18066288 >>18066294 >>18066307
Interpretatio Graeca/Romana is so obviously a cope that the Greeks/Romans respectively came up with to rationalize the existence of foreign gods as the known world started becoming more and more interconnected. They also did this for literally everyone - Aryan and Semitic (YHWH was identified with Saturn). This isn't how they originally thought and this isn't how the other pagans of Europe understood the world around them. So why do Neopagans take this as some rule? Why do they keep projecting a few cherrypicked concepts from the Classical World onto the whole of pre-Christian religion? And why exactly is it wrong for a white person (nobody thought like this in premodern times btw) to worship YHWH if he's just Saturn anyway?
Anonymous No.18066098 [Report] >>18066099 >>18066310
>>18066096 (OP)
They'll also shill completely random unrelated faiths like Shintoism or Aztec mythology because it's "non-Abrahamic." Even though, both genetically and religiously, all Europeans and Jews are much more closely related with each other on account of their common Western Eurasian heritage.
Anonymous No.18066099 [Report]
>>18066098
And yes this goes for literal Norse vikings and Baltic warriors. Look at basic genetics and compare religions.
Anonymous No.18066288 [Report]
>>18066096 (OP)
The people you see doing that on this board and elsewhere aren't actually attempting to understand the religions of ancient people, they are attempting to construct a new universalist religion.
Anonymous No.18066294 [Report]
>>18066096 (OP)
It wasn't really a cope, it was downstream of how the Romans and Greek philosophers viewed the Gods.
I'll focus on two ways here that are most interesting, to me.

The first is that Greek philosophers (meaning here people that followed the cults of the pre-socratics and later platonists or neopythagoreans) had a view that the Gods were abstract and representations of natural forces but couldn't be personified like traditional myths would usually do.
Xenophanes, for example, from a very early date, quipped that if cows had hands, they'd paint the Gods to look like cows. He also said that divine power all traced back to a centralized single source that was basically unknowable, eternal, and wholly good. And its operations were the natural laws of the universe, not divine intervention or magic. And later Plato and Aristotle would develop this further. Even in some cases saying that Homer and Hesiod should be censored because they contained lies about the Gods doing bad things.
In this lens, what people call their individual Gods is irrelevant, because they're all foolish anthropomorphizations of divine cosmic and natural forces. One archetype, projected on some aspect of this single God, is basically the same as any other similar archetype. Its all just the human perception.

From the Roman side, there was this view that the Gods were basically very distant and more forces of nature than people.
The Romans didn't really have myths about their Gods doing things. Most of those actually came from later interactions with the Greeks. The Gods were forces of power in the universe that controlled everything and were owed respect and worship. But they didn't really interact with humans directly or engage in drama.
In this, it became common for Romans to gloss over differences in specifics between groups of Gods, because to them those specifics were unimportant. The overall archetype mattered the most according to what category of cosmic forces it fit with.
Anonymous No.18066307 [Report] >>18066310
>>18066096 (OP)
Eclecticism was natural and encouraged by many religions until Abrahamism came on the scene. All three Abrahamic religions want sole allegiance without learning from anything else. If you asked a modern European neopagan if he could learn anything from Buddhist meditation he'd probably say yes without having an allergic reaction to foreign ideas. There's very little natural tolerance for the intolerant though, so when Abrahamics want to outlaw other religions they deservedly receive scorn.
Anonymous No.18066310 [Report] >>18066317
>>18066307
"Worshipping Jesus is bad because... uhhh"
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Also
Anonymous No.18066317 [Report]
>>18066310
>"Worshipping Jesus is bad because... uhhh"
Because that religion teaches bad ideas that made Europeans weak. Religions get judged for their merits.