Thread 18066417

Why didnt the Nazis build a factory to kill the jews?
There are factories which grab chickens by their heads and carry them down a rail system into blades which cut their heads off. The entire dressing of the bird is automated. You could likely do this with jews if you were trying to. Force their heads into a double rail system right off the train, perhaps on a hill, and have them fed by gravity down into the blades which do the dirty work.
A million seconds is 12 days. If you could make this device kill a jew every second it would only take 72 days to kill 6 million jews.
Put powered wheels on the rail system to launch them through and you could likely get higher throughput than 1JpS

>>18066417 (OP)
No physical evidence for battle of stalingrad.
The Holocaust, like evolution, is fake.

The killing wasn't the bottleneck, it was easy to gas them. The biggest logistical problem was the body disposal.

>>18066431
It wasn't easy. The train capacity is matmetically impossible.
A 3m wide by 10m car with slanted sides is 1 meter center area. 1 meter per jew is 10 Jews. 10 cars is 100 Jews per trian. One hour is 2400 Jews a day.
Literal Betty crocker level math proves the Holocaust was fake on train capacity.

>>18066431
This. I have been working on a design that would help overcome this problem for the future. Needs MAPP gas which they dont make anymore, but that should be easy enough to source if necessary.

>>18066444
are you suggesting you can only fit 10 people inside a train car?

>>18066447
break this down for me.

>>18066417 (OP)
the nazis didn't want to kill the jews, they only wanted to intern them like america interned the japanese

your delusions of a giant chicken decapitation plant are like the rollercoasters and cages with bears

>>18067112
why did they murderd 6 million jews then

Nazis did build factories, you dumbass. They were called extermination camps. They used industrial-scale gas chambers and crematoria because evil, efficient bastards spent years "optimizing" the goddamn holocaust.

>>18066444
2400*365=876k, multiply by 6 years and you get to 5,25 million dead jews, which i'd consider to be will within the ballpark of the official number

>>18067134
>They were called extermination camps.
May we see one in the Western area of occupation that hasn't been retconned into a labor camp?

>>18067134
What years were they spending optimising the holocaust?

Are there technical drawings for this development project or are you just lying about the holocaust like a slimy genocidal jew?

>>18067176
death camps were set in occupied Poland

>>18067255
source?

>>18067255
Name one death camp and tell us where and when the death occurred.

>>18067255
That's great. May we see an extermination camp in the Western area of occupation that hasn't been retconned into a labor camp?

This thread isnt about whether the camps exists or didnt exist, nobody knows.
This thread is about why if they were desired to have existed by the nazis why they didnt build an automated factory that moved the jews through the line in a mechanical way.

>>18067259
>>18067276
the internet, books etc, you can also come to visit the camps yourself
>>18067283
death camps were set in occupied Poland

>>18067304
so no source?

>>18067320
https://www.auschwitz.org/en/
you can learn a lot about Holocasut there, but it mostly coverss Auschwitz camp

>>18067330
Ok so about this death that occurred. This source doesn't say anything specific.
How about the first death. Just stick with that. Was it here in this camp?

>>18067330
thats not a source for the question asked

>>18067335
>This source doesn't say anything specific
How can you know? This site is huge and you replied just 2 minutes later
>first death
as for first victims of aushwitz gas chambers? It was a bunch of Polish and Soviet POW's in september 1941, again, you can serach more on the source that i linked you

>>18067337
if you want a camp that served as a death camp only then
https://muzeumtreblinka.eu/en/

>>18067345
that doesnt seem to have been in western occupied territory either. Anything without the bias and lies of the soviets?

>>18067346
why does a death camp has to be in the west? you can't kill people in eastern europe? i don't understand

>>18067339
>Soviet pows were the first deaths

This was debunked utterly. Absolutely no evidence for this and it's silly and stupid. Just a horror story.
>>18067345
This camp has even less surrounding facts to use as evidence. Just a bunch of lying criminals supporting the stupid story.

>>18067352
>This was debunked
nope
I got your sources, you might not want to belive or even look at them but there they are
and once you escape from the neonazi death grooming cult, you might want to take a look at the truth

>>18067349
If your goal was to kill 100% of a people why would you only build the death camps in one place and then have labor camps any time the western allies discovered the place. what are the odds.

>>18067359
what do you mean the one place? they were a lot of them, Poland is not a small country

>>18067369
one place vs another place

>>18067373
>bulid death camps close to where 3 million Polish Jews live is actually illogical
bro

>>18067378
Not also building them anywhere else is pretty illogical
so explain this logical jump, that the nazis were dead set on murdering them in one place but everywhere else, all the hundreds of other camps they were just housing and feeding and giving them jobs

>>18067381
I don't understand the question
Nazis bulid death camps and they were murdering Jews there, what is illogical about that?

>>18067357
There's no evidence for any gassing of Soviet pows in Auschwitz. Holocaust deniers even wrote a book about that specific alleged incident. They utterly btfo'd it. Do you mind if I quote from it?

>>18067388
Because they're working and looking after them everywhere else. And they even shot a top guy for the murder of two Jews so what the fuck are you even talking about?

>>18067400
holocaust deniers are neonazis so nope, im not interested

>>18067403
nobody was shoot for murdering Jews
anyway, I'm not really a good teacher
https://aboutholocaust.org/en/facts
this site should answer most of your questions about the Holocaust

>>18067404
>coping and seething

Your internet source Auschwitz.org is absolute trash and bunk. No one gives a fuck what you think.

>>18067405
The SS had it's own judges, a one Konrad Morgen sentence an SS officer to death for that murder. The execution was carried out, by the SS.

Cope and seethe faggot.

>>18067388
just odd placement is all

if i was going to murder everyone id build deathcamps everywhere.
I wouldnt make some death camps and some life camps.
little suspicious these so called "Death camps" were only found by the communists.

I deny the holocaust. Completely.

271000 by disease and starvation. Caused by the allies. That's it.

This thread is over because we have arrived. Hail.

>>18067407
how can you know that, maybe some will click the link and learn some stuff about the history
>>18067414
SS officers were put to death for their insane ammout of robbery. The stuff of murdered Jews were supposed to go to the state and the war effort, but tons of them were stealing for themeslvs only. Do you think that trips to Brazil were cheap back then?

>>18066417 (OP)
They didnt have a mechanized means to murder the jews, they had to manually move them all into a big room, wait 30 minutes and then drag out the bodies.

But they did have a mechanized means to dispose of bodies. In fact they did it so well that there has been 0 remains found so far. Every single bone and tooth was reduced to dust. They even used advanced techniques to ensure the ground where the bodies were disposed off doesnt appear disturbed to future ground penetrating radar. Its incredible the lengths they went through to not get caught.

>>18067421
>maybe maybe etc

They'll learn a sum total of fuck all.

>it was about robbery
Nope. They were executed for murder of Jews. The judge was clear about it during and after the war.
Cope and seethe.

>>18067429
Well, you might choose to belive that nazis killed him for the sake of Jews, but that's not really true

>>18067422
They were so good that they left no hard evidence at all.

This is literally Robert Van Pelts stupid argument. Utterly ridiculous as pointed out by Mattogno.

>>18067431
Ok what did they execute one of their own officers for and what makes you say that given what the actual judge said?

Or are you just lying and prevaricating because you don't know much but don't want to appear or end up thinking of yourself as ignorant?

>>18067405
The Holocaust was the attempt by Nazi Germany and its collaborators to murder the Jews of Europe.

During the six years of World War II, systematic, bureaucratic, state-sponsored and government-organized persecution and oppression resulted in the deaths of six million European Jews from across the continent.

The persecution of Jews in Germany began in 1933, almost immediately after the Nazis came to power. The systematic mass-killing of Jews, however, occurred during World War II: first in processes of ghettoisation and mass shootings in Central and Eastern Europe, and then, between 1941 and 1945, deportations to killing centers like Auschwitz, Treblinka and Belzec. This phase of systematic killing was referred to by the Nazis as the Final Solution of the Jewish Question.

>>18067438
They executed him for the only documented murder of a jew during the war by the SS

>>18067439
The Holocaust was conceived of, planned, and directed by the Nazi-German regime led by Adolf Hitler. It was implemented in large part by officers of the SS (Schutzstaffel; literally, Protection Squadrons), a Nazi paramilitary organization which came to administer and control large parts of the German state and the territories conquered by the Nazis. It would not have been possible to murder as many Jews as they did, however, without collaborators and accomplices from across Nazi-occupied Europe.

While much of the actual killing of Jews during the Holocaust occurred in death camps in occupied Poland, the persecution of Jews, their incarceration in ghettos, and their deportation from their homes took place in full view of their non-Jewish neighbors in cities and towns across Europe. In Western Europe, domestic regimes assisted in the identification and rounding-up of Jews; in Eastern Europe, civilian populations often took a hand in the killing itself.

>>18067443
Ghettos were districts of towns and cities in German-occupied eastern Europe in which Jews were forced to live segregated from the wider population. The vast majority of ghettos were located in German-occupied Poland and territories belonging to the Soviet Union before the German invasion of 1941. The first ghetto was established in the town of Piotrków Trybunalski in 1939 after the German invasion. The last ghetto to be liquidated was that of Lodz/Litzmannstadt in August-September 1944.

Many ghettos were closed, meaning enclosed by walls, but others were open, enabling Jews to go to or work in other areas. The largest ghetto was in Warsaw, where more than 400,000 Jews were crowded together. From summer 1942, the Nazi authorities began deporting large numbers of Jews to the death camps for annihilation, and the following year they began the process of liquidating the ghettos and deporting the remaining Jews.

Scholars disagree about the place of the ghettos in the Nazi plan for the Jews of Europe. Some argue they were a deliberate step toward annihilation, by concentrating Jews in particular places. Others argue that wide variation in the development and maintenance of the ghettos suggests they were initially intended to be a “solution” in themselves.

if the last 2 years tell me anything, jews be lying

>>18067441
Exactly. So murdering jews was against the SS own rules and there were no special exceptions. Holocaust btfo'd. Thread over.

>>18067447
Not all Jews were forced to live in ghettos during the Holocaust. Most ghettos were established in Nazi-occupied Central and Eastern Europe. Some Jews escaped from the ghettos and lived in hiding, or used their “Aryan” appearance to live on false papers in the wider population. Others were hidden in religious institutions, schools or elsewhere. Finally, some Jews survived in the forests of eastern Europe as partisans.

In Western Europe, Jews were generally rounded up from their homes into transit camps where they awaited deportation to killing centers. Until then, they often remained in their homes or, like Anne Frank and her family, lived in hiding, supported by non-Jews willing to help.

>>18067455
In addition, however, the Einsatzgruppen which followed the Wehrmacht into the Soviet Union in June 1941, killed around 2 million Jews between 1941 and 1944. They also oversaw, encouraged and at times directed pogroms by the local populations.

For these victims, the Holocaust happened in their home towns: often rounded up in the main square and then marched to an execution site. There are hundreds of such sites in the fields and forests of present-day Poland, Lithuania, Ukraine and Belarus, many of them forgotten.

Faggot spams the thread with chatgpt text generation because he's seething and malding in place. Kek

>>18067459
A lof of the IDFs best shills died on oct 7th, the indians they hired to replace them follow a script but you can tell how rigid it is and its always clear how they dont know whats going on and cant quickly adapt to explain all the holes in the holocaust hoax

>>18067458
>still no nazis despite spam.
Too date no holocaust by nazis was ever dug up. The only large scale digging up and individual identification was done by the Whermact of the Katyn massacre done by Soviets of polish officers .

>>18067459
>>18067464
>>18067467

The victims of the Holocaust were exploited in a range of ways. Most obviously, those who were not murdered on arrival were forced into slave labor with the intention of working them to death. The minutes of the 1942 Wannsee Conference refer to the formation of “labour gangs” which would ensure “natural wastage” of large numbers.

Prisoners in camps were employed in farms, factories and mining operations run by German companies, with the sums generated going to the SS. There was also a systematic process of theft from the victims. Deportees to the camps were asked to take suitcases and mark them with their names and points of origin. Once their new arrivals had been murdered or registered in the camp, other prisoners sorted their belongings: either transported to Germany or converted into currency for the SS.

Testimonies from the camps describe the vast wealth and opportunities for corruption by the SS in these sorting areas, referred to as Kanada in the Auschwitz complex.

The bodies of victims were also desecrated for profit: gold teeth were extracted and melted down; hair shaved from the victims was used to make socks for U-boat crews and fabric stiffeners. Prisoners in some camps were used for medical experiments, often of no scientific value. Sexual violence was also widespread.

>>18067464
Indeed. This nigger went to spam mode immediately when faced with hard refusal and unbeatable facts. They're sending pajeets in now instead. As the Blue Division said "bring another bull".

>>18067469
Policies and measures directed against the Jews can be divided into three periods or phases: persecution and forced emigration of German and Austrian Jews between 1933 and 1939; a period of ghettoisation and repression in the Eastern territories occupied by Germany between 1939 and 1941; and a phase of systematic extermination from the middle of 1941 to the end of the war.

>>18067469
More spam. All debunked already.

>>18067475
Recent studies disproved this though, this is outdated

>>18067474
>>18067476

With the outbreak of war, the situation of German Jews deteriorated while those in the newly-conquered territories in occupied Poland found themselves often concentrated in ghettos. After the invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941, however, the activities of the Einsatzgruppen, the expansion of existing camps like Auschwitz and the construction of killing centers accompanied the deportation of Jews from Germany to killing sites. Although there is no document in which Hitler explicitly ordered the “Final Solution of the Jewish Question”, making an exact date impossible, the consensus is that the summer of 1941 saw a transition to a more systematic program of killing.

The “Final Solution of the Jewish Question” was the euphemistic term used by the Nazi German authorities to refer to the plan to annihilate European Jewry. The most important use of the term to mean this was in a memorandum from Hermann Göring to Reinhard Heydrich, dated 31 July, 1941, asking Heydrich to prepare “an overall plan of the preliminary organisational, practical and financial measures for the execution of the intended final solution of the Jewish question.”

The implementation and coordination of the Final Solution was set on January 20, 1942, at a meeting of senior SS officers and German government officials from different ministries and agencies in the Berlin suburb of Wannsee. This meeting was initially intended for December 1941 but was cancelled after Hitler’s declaration of war on the United States.

>>18067475
You forgot to add the alleged cover up in the 40s dufus.

You're not even getting your shilling done right. Do better. Kek

Patel isnt going to get paid for this one...
sloppy job

>>18067485
$7000 per post. A missed opportunity fren.

>>18067484
>>18067485
The Einsatzgruppen (Special Action Groups) were SS and police units tasked to trail the Wehrmacht into the Soviet Union in June 1941. In the following three years, they killed more than 2 million Jews: around 40% of those killed during the Holocaust.

The Einsatzgruppen kept records of their killings in Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Belarus, Moldova, Romania and Ukraine. In September 1941, Einsatzgruppe C carried out the massacre of 33, 771 Jews at the ravine of Babi Yar outside K’yiv in present-day Ukraine.

Members of the Einsatzgruppen were drawn from the SS, Waffen SS (SS military formations) and other organisations from the Police and Security apparatus. Letters and photographs from members of these units are an important source of knowledge about the Holocaust. The Einsatzgruppen also made extensive use of local collaborators to identify, round up and kill Jews.

A concentration camp was an institution developed in Nazi Germany to imprison political enemies and opponents. Often situated in suburbs of major cities, the camps were a very visible indicator of the Nazi regime’s willingness to use violence and terror. Inmates in concentration camps were held in inhumane conditions and subjected to torture, starvation, and, in certain camps, medical experimentation.

Following the November 1938 Kristallnacht pogrom, an estimated 30,000 German and Austrian Jews were rounded up and imprisoned in concentration camps. After the outbreak of World War II, the German authorities expanded their concentration camp network. These included: forced labor camps (like *Neuengamme* in Germany) intended to exploit prisoner labour to profit the SS; transit camps (like *Westerbork* in Holland) to facilitate the easier deportation of Jews; and extermination camps such as *Treblinka*, which had almost no infrastructure other than gas chambers, SS accommodation, and facilities for sorting the belongings of those murdered.