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Anonymous No.18070070 [Report] >>18070075 >>18070160 >>18070184 >>18070260 >>18070999 >>18071482 >>18071502 >>18071681 >>18071888 >>18072568 >>18075146
Whats the deal with KJV only people
Whats the particular fixation with this version of the bible when it was written centuries after jesus also what about the billions of humans that dont speak english? Theres a kjv version of every language?
They sound like muslims when they claim only the arab version of the quran is valid but at least the quran was actually first recorded on arab
Anonymous No.18070075 [Report] >>18070087 >>18070313
>>18070070 (OP)
It tries to preserve the intended double meanings embedded in many of the verses.
Anonymous No.18070087 [Report] >>18070089
>>18070075
a reason so many children of families that are KJV only are so fucked in the head
>learn double entendre really early
>insane innuendos in the Bible
>sexual repression and guilt
>???
>Profit
Anonymous No.18070089 [Report] >>18070090
>>18070087
>insane innuendos in the Bible
>sexual repression and guilt
Lol, no. That is not it.
Anonymous No.18070090 [Report] >>18070295
>>18070089
enlighten me
Anonymous No.18070160 [Report] >>18070169 >>18070171 >>18070252 >>18071002 >>18071173 >>18071998
>>18070070 (OP)
>Whats the particular fixation with this version of the bible when it was written centuries after jesus
It's a perfect translation in our native language.
>also what about the billions of humans that dont speak english?
They need a Bible in their own language.
>Theres a kjv version of every language?
No. The King James is the best translation of the original Greek and Hebrew in any language. It was a blessing from God because the Anglo-Saxon nation cried out for God's word 400 years ago. There is no Spanish equivalent, for example, because beaners don't care what the Bible teaches. There have been attempts in the same manner that there were good attempts prior to the final product of the King James, but it's impossible to put together such a work when just one Mexican is working on it.
Anonymous No.18070169 [Report] >>18070172 >>18070174 >>18070183
>>18070160
>perfect translation
>best translation
>still kept the camel misspelling
KJV onlyists are unserious people.
Anonymous No.18070171 [Report] >>18070175
>>18070160
I didn't even know this variant of the bible schizoid existed until just now. Fascinating.
Anonymous No.18070172 [Report] >>18071842
>>18070169
Have fun burning.
Anonymous No.18070174 [Report]
>>18070169
Nope, it really is that hard for a rich man to make it on the path. The other way wouldn't make sense anyway, threading a needle with thread isn't hard.
Anonymous No.18070175 [Report]
>>18070171
>schizoid
You don't know what that word means.
>Fascinating.
>>>/r/eddit
Anonymous No.18070183 [Report]
>>18070169
Anonymous No.18070184 [Report] >>18070189
>>18070070 (OP)
It's another flavor of Protestant heresy. Once you buy into Sola Scriptura, you can buy into believing that no English-speaking person had God's Word until 1611.Think about the implications of that.
Anonymous No.18070189 [Report]
>>18070184
>It's another flavor of Protestant heresy. Once you buy into Sola Fide, you can buy into believing that no one believed in Jesus' resurrection until 33 AD. Think about the implications of that.
Anonymous No.18070252 [Report] >>18070272
>>18070160
>There is no Spanish equivalent, for example, because beaners don't care what the Bible teaches. There have been attempts in the same manner that there were good attempts prior to the final product of the King James, but it's impossible to put together such a work when just one Mexican is working on it.

Oh so you are just a racist faggot ok jesus ordered to make disciples of all nations he will not call your name the day of judgment
Anonymous No.18070260 [Report] >>18070272
>>18070070 (OP)
People whose faith is 100% centered on the Bible are uncomfortable with the fact that they can't read the real Bible. So they convince themselves that one English translation is just as real as the real Bible and use that. Same thing with the Catholic Church which declared the Latin Vulgate infallible tbqh.
Anonymous No.18070270 [Report] >>18071487 >>18071681 >>18071851
it is the only genuine version of the bible in english

an alternative is to learn greek, latin and aramaic and study the earliest sources for yourself, but god created different languages for a reason

Genesis 11

1 And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.

2 And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.

3 And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them thoroughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.

4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

5 And the Lord came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.

6 And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.

8 So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

9 Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.
Anonymous No.18070272 [Report] >>18070283 >>18070337
>>18070252
>he will not call your name the day of judgment
Correct. I will not be at the great white throne judgment, because I'm not going to be damned.
>>18070260
>the real Bible
1. You don't read Greek.
2. You don't read Hebrew.
3. No, you do not.
4. You are LARPing.
5. The King James says exactly the same thing as the originals.
Anonymous No.18070283 [Report]
>>18070272
>1. You don't read Greek.
>2. You don't read Hebrew.
So?

>The King James says exactly the same thing as the originals.
No translation says exactly the same thing as the original, things are always lost or added unintentionally.
Anonymous No.18070293 [Report] >>18071622
So this is all we have? We're just fucked and stuck with a 500 year old version because the others made after it suck? English speakers before us all got to have the accurate translation in their contemporary english but ours are cursed to be heretical so we have to read ye olde english to get the word?
Anonymous No.18070295 [Report] >>18070306
>>18070090
>enlighten me
I don't do skin lightening treatments and it wouldn't do you any good anyways because your fruit would be no good.
Anonymous No.18070306 [Report] >>18070342
>>18070295
>gets shown arguments against KJV
>lol no thats not true
>oh yeah? Explain how it isnt
>u-uh well your skin or something uh also it wouldnt help

Why are "Christians" like this? You see someone who you could enlighten about Christ and maybe correct about His word but you'd rather dismiss it and be a sardonic cunt? Yeah that's real Christlike. I see you're keeping up the "good works" part of being a Christian.
Anonymous No.18070313 [Report] >>18070319
>>18070075
It makes up entire sections out of the blue. I'm not sure why it removes so many books either. It gets a lot of flak for adding in the name Lucifer, which is actually a name that appears in the old Vulgate, but then people just ignore that it completely fabricates the battle of Carchemish.
Anonymous No.18070319 [Report] >>18070330 >>18070335
>>18070313
>It makes up entire sections out of the blue.
Those flames just got hotter.
Anonymous No.18070323 [Report] >>18070361
KJVonlyists worship these books
Not God, but KJV books
Anonymous No.18070330 [Report]
>>18070319
I couldn't agree. The dirty prot proles will get what's coming to them.
Anonymous No.18070335 [Report] >>18070361
>>18070319
I couldn't agree more. The dirty prot proles will get what's coming to them.
Anonymous No.18070337 [Report] >>18070361
>>18070272
etnic hatred will land you on hell enjoy burning the pain will never end
Anonymous No.18070342 [Report]
>>18070306
>he didn't grasp the fruit reference
Sad.
Anonymous No.18070361 [Report] >>18070369 >>18070380 >>18071908
>>18070323
The King James Bible is God. If you don't see Jesus when you read it, you aren't saved.
>>18070335
Tick tock.
>>18070337
>etnic
>land you on hell
You're brown.
>enjoy burning
I'm going straight to Heaven when I die. You aren't.
Anonymous No.18070369 [Report] >>18070376 >>18070381
>>18070361
>Tick tock
Wait are you saying IM going to...?
Anonymous No.18070376 [Report] >>18070379
>>18070369
>a Catholic who can read
And they say miracles don't happen!
Anonymous No.18070379 [Report] >>18070383
>>18070376
I'm not Catholic.
Anonymous No.18070380 [Report]
>>18070361
Wait the tick tock is like... time until....? :o
Anonymous No.18070381 [Report] >>18070384
>>18070369
to Raspberry Heaven:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3ZtmLaNhbc&list=RDK3ZtmLaNhbc&start_radio=1
Anonymous No.18070383 [Report] >>18070387
>>18070379
>I'm not Catholic.
Yes, you are.
Anonymous No.18070384 [Report]
>>18070381
Oh thank goodness I'm so relieved
Anonymous No.18070387 [Report] >>18070389 >>18070397
>>18070383
Maxing out flames, are we?
Anonymous No.18070389 [Report] >>18070397
>>18070387
Yes he's a satanist
Anonymous No.18070397 [Report] >>18071006
>>18070387
>>18070389

>Hellmaxxing
Is this the newest TikTok trend? xDDD
Anonymous No.18070659 [Report] >>18070681
All you need.
Anonymous No.18070681 [Report] >>18070687 >>18070700
>>18070659
Enjoy Hell, loser.
Anonymous No.18070687 [Report]
>>18070681
My wife told me you're being mean and you should stop.
Anonymous No.18070700 [Report]
>>18070681
Tick tock.
Anonymous No.18070999 [Report] >>18071918
>>18070070 (OP)
Mostly dumb hillbillies in my experience.
Anonymous No.18071002 [Report] >>18071025
>>18070160
>It's a perfect translation in our native language.
No it isn't. The translators made this very clear in their comments about the translation.
Anonymous No.18071006 [Report]
>>18070397
Unfortunately!
Anonymous No.18071025 [Report] >>18071492 >>18071912
>>18071002
>The translators were humble
>Therefore we should reject Jesus
Non-sequitur.
Anonymous No.18071173 [Report]
>>18070160
they hated him because he spoke the truth
Anonymous No.18071482 [Report]
>>18070070 (OP)
Because if things can be complicated and ambiguous that's emotionally difficult for them.
Anonymous No.18071487 [Report]
>>18070270
>picrel
How do you know it's a matter of the other manuscript traditions having taken those verses out and not of your preferred manuscript tradition having added them?
Anonymous No.18071492 [Report]
>>18071025
Where did they say that?
Anonymous No.18071502 [Report]
>>18070070 (OP)
Thanks but I'll stick to Wycliff.
Anonymous No.18071622 [Report] >>18071677
>>18070293
>English speakers before us all got to have the accurate translation in their contemporary english but ours are cursed to be heretical so we have to read ye olde english to get the word?
There's just not a real need because the KJV is perfectly readable, unless you're being a disingenuous twerp who pretends he can't read beyond a Dr. Seuss level (which, if true, signals that you have far bigger problems).
Anonymous No.18071677 [Report]
>>18071622
There are bits that a modern English speaker is likely to not just fail to understand but misunderstand, though, like "appearance" in the sense of "sort" or "kind" ("avoid all appearance of evil") or "conversation" in the sense of "citizenship" ("our conversation is in heaven")
Anonymous No.18071681 [Report]
>>18070070 (OP)
It's just a Protestant thing. Even in their apologetics >>18070270 you don't see them even mention the current Catholic bible in America, the New American Bible (NAB), or the traditional Catholic English language bible the Douay–Rheims Bible which is the Catholic Counter-Reformation response to the King James Bible. It's a Protestant thing and they just want to convince other Protestants. Their views aren't taken seriously outside of Protestant America.
Anonymous No.18071842 [Report]
>>18070172
I will, I always burn local, so I always have fun doing it.
Anonymous No.18071851 [Report]
>>18070270
No, read chapter 10 before chapter 11:
>10 This is the account of Shem, Ham and Japheth, Noah’s sons, who themselves had sons after the flood.
>The Japhethites
>2 The sons[a] of Japheth:
>Gomer, Magog, Madai, Javan, Tubal, Meshek and Tiras.
>3 The sons of Gomer:
>Ashkenaz, Riphath and Togarmah.
>4 The sons of Javan:
>Elishah, Tarshish, the Kittites and the Rodanites.[b] 5 (From these the maritime peoples spread out into their territories by their clans within their nations, each with its own language.)

The various languages were created because noah's decedents took to the sea.
Anonymous No.18071888 [Report] >>18071890
>>18070070 (OP)
>Theres a kjv version of every language?
Technically yes, how is that even a question? How do you make a thread like this and ignore that fact?
Anonymous No.18071890 [Report] >>18071915
>>18071888
king james wasnt the king of india if thats what ur saying. get a grip
Anonymous No.18071908 [Report]
>>18070361
>I'm going straight to Heaven when I die. You aren't.
Nope, its going to be you and the anon you are arguing with and St. Peter will tell both that you have exactly one minute to decide which one of you gets to go to heaven and if you don't send the other anon to heaven in your place, you will both go to hell.
Anonymous No.18071912 [Report]
>>18071025
>The translators were humble enough to cite their own flaws.
>Therefore they have no flaws and their words are divine.
Anonymous No.18071915 [Report] >>18071922 >>18071978
>>18071890
Thats not what I meant. What I meant is that the KJV does have its equivalents in other languages of the world since they all share the same source of text.
Anonymous No.18071918 [Report]
>>18070999
So the only whites still maintaining a TFR above 2 in the whole world.
Anonymous No.18071922 [Report]
>>18071915
Sounds retarded. Repent and believe in the Latin Vulgate and all its derivatives.
Anonymous No.18071977 [Report] >>18071982
>anything other than the actual original aramaic
Enjoy burning!
Anonymous No.18071978 [Report]
>>18071915
There are decent TR-based translations in most major languages that I am aware of. I wouldn't quite rank these translation with the KJV in terms of sheer accuracy and amount of work put into making a technically accurate and high quality translation, especially when you factor in all the revisions it went through before arriving at the form it is today. Lots of proofreading and checking for consistency by different scholars. I'm not aware of another translation that had quite as much work put into it, since the KJV had at least 47 bible scholars assigned to the project. Most other Bible translations, including the earlier English ones, are the work of far fewer people. Some of the Geneva translations (like the French Geneva Bible, later edited by Beza and even later Louis Segond) come close. The 1611 KJV itself also took a lot of inspiration from the English Geneva Bible of 1560. In a lot of places it's basically the same in the main text. Although the 1560 translation was good, based on my comparisons I would still say that the 1611 translation shows that it had even more work put into it than the 1560 English Geneva Bible did. There are a few places in the New Testament where the textual criticism of 1611 was more accurate as well, such as including the second half of 1 John 2:23.
Anonymous No.18071982 [Report] >>18072240 >>18072349
>>18071977
But we don't have Jesus's words in Aramaic, only what some people wrote down in Greek years later.
Anonymous No.18071997 [Report]
Because Americans are mentally ill. The average American Protestant idiot is so uneducated and propagandized with exceptionalism bullshit that they believe "the Bible" (they don't know about deuterocanonicals or apocrypha) was written in English, or Hebrew. They don't know the gospels were originally in Greek.
Anonymous No.18071998 [Report]
>>18070160
>There is no Spanish equivalent, for example
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reina_Valera#Reina_Valera_Only_movement
Anonymous No.18072240 [Report] >>18072279
>>18071982
False. Teachings other than Peshitta Primacy are heresy.
Anonymous No.18072279 [Report] >>18072318
>>18072240
On what basis? Especially when it's not even written in the same dialect of Aramaic he spoke?
Anonymous No.18072318 [Report] >>18072330
>>18072279
Don't tell me you believe that languages """evolve""", too?
Anonymous No.18072330 [Report]
>>18072318
You can literally see English evolving right there on the page. Today's English is different from the English of the Renaissance, which is different from the English of the High Middle Ages, which is different from the English of the Dark Ages.
Anonymous No.18072349 [Report] >>18072352
>>18071982
Have fun burning.
Anonymous No.18072352 [Report] >>18072374
>>18072349
Not an argument.
Anonymous No.18072374 [Report]
>>18072352
Tick tock :)
Anonymous No.18072568 [Report] >>18072748 >>18075221
>>18070070 (OP)
KJV is the best version because it preserves the English language at it's most interesting and refined state. If you want to "learn English", you have to know the English of the KJV/Shakespeare.

Any English before that, seems too "German" and difficult to read easily for Normies. Anything after that sounds derivative and invariably references, or quotes KJV and Shakespeare.

In terms of it's word-for-word accuracy to the original Greek......it's meh(B-/C). There Greek was OK, but not as good as ours today and their """Hebrew""" was virtually non-existent and no Gringo in Europe was fluent in any way, so all of those bits were a bit of a guess. Even the Jews of the day had pretty sketchy Hebrew and factual, historical info about the Levant. The authors also had to turn it into Royal Propaganda to please a Protestant King, etc......

Considering they did all of that by committee while making it quite poetic and a pleasure to read, and it becomes more impressive than it being a simple historical document.

I forget the name of it, but there was an accompanying document submitted with the first KJV saying that they knew that it was an imperfect translation, but that they did the best they could with what they had and that future authors should be willing and open to corrections and edits......so, of course no one has touched it ever since.

Normies couldn't read anyway, so it was written for the clergy, who obviously took to it. The rhythm and rhyme of it, makes it easy to memorize and to preach a loud to the masses, which is how 98% got their Bible.

No matter where you go in the world today, when people say "The Bible(tm)", they mean KJV. Even if you despise Christianity to its core, and you should, you MUST know the KJV to be considered educated.
Anonymous No.18072748 [Report] >>18074343
>>18072568
Those flames just got hotter.
Anonymous No.18074343 [Report] >>18074353
>>18072748
My innately superior Teutonic blood allows me to "pass through the fire" without harm, just like Sigurdr. He's like Jesus, but not a Jew, not a gay, not a pedo and not a gay-Jew-pedo. You wouldn't like him.
Anonymous No.18074353 [Report]
>>18074343
Sounds based. I'm in. Can I bring Hercules?
Anonymous No.18074432 [Report]
TWANG
Those demon cocks just got rock-hard and doubled in size
Anonymous No.18075024 [Report] >>18075029
Just get a copy of RSVCE, RSV2CE, or the Challoner Dhouy Rheims since that's like 99 percent KJV after he was done 'fixing' it. It's got the KJ books and the language is mostly the same, excepting that it comes from the original texts rather than the Vulgate. And with modern wording instead of thee/thou in 2ce. DR is quite poetic and edifying in the original pre Challoner though I've not read it cover to cover.

Nsrvce is proooobably actual heresy tho.
Anonymous No.18075029 [Report] >>18075097
>>18075024
Nrsvce is not heresy, it doesn't remove any condemnations of any behavior, it just broadens the categories
Anonymous No.18075097 [Report]
>>18075029
Eh. The ddf thinks it's defective and had to redo the entire lectionary. There's no corrected edition, it's not permissible for use. I'm going to assume it's polite heresy. I do have a copy, and while I enjoy the brief introductions to the books and the maps I'll stick to the others.
Anonymous No.18075146 [Report]
>>18070070 (OP)
I was looking this up and found out about the Wicked Bible which sounds badass but it was just an ordinary version of the KJV where they forgot to print "not" in "Thou shalt not commit adultery". This is a very obvious error and was corrected almost immediately but it makes you wonder what other printing errors might have made it into the final versions that weren't obvious, went unnoticed and became accepted "truth". I don't hate the KJV but it's honestly overrated, you should read multiple translations and compare them rather than just blindly trusting one in the first place. If you want the unaltered original text you'll have to learn Hebrew and ancient Greek anyway.
Anonymous No.18075221 [Report]
>>18072568
>No matter where you go in the world today, when people say "The Bible(tm)", they mean KJV.
I'm pretty sure that's specific to the English-speaking world. In Greece, for example, when they say "The Bible" they mean the Septuagint and the original Greek New Testament.