Thread 18074185

>Land to peasants!
>Come to power
>Collectivize all the land and no one owns land anymore
>millions die

>Class consciousness: bourgeois and nobles cannot rule the proletariat
>Communist party leaders are mostly children of noblemen and well-off bourgeois (Lenin, Bukharin, Trotsky, Zinoviev, Mao, Zhou, Deng)
>Create a caste system with children of high ranking bureaucrats on top that is more privileged than uppwer class in any modern western democracy
>New ruling class is somehow more corrupt and exploitative than the old aristocracy

>The Russian Empire is the Prison of the Peoples
>You can emigrate from the Russian Empire but you can't leave our socialist paradise
>Mass surveillance and oppression on a scale never seen before

>WWI is awful
>to stop it we will start a civil war with 8-10 times more deaths

>We're the representatives of the people and the champions of democracy
>Lose the 1917 democratic election
>Democracy has failed us
>Coup the elected government and establish a dictatorship

>Russia was a huge exporter of food stuffs under the Tsar
>40 years of wise bolshevik government
>Russia spends gold reserve to buy wheat

>Party of the Workers and Peasants
>Brutally suppress workers's movement for better working conditions and higher wages
>Confiscate peasant's produce and let them starve
>Violently put down starving farmers's uprising with chemical weapons

>>18074185 (OP)
damn. social democracy really sucks, huh?

>>18074185 (OP)
marxism sucks but communism is awesome t b h
(yes, the soviet union was real communism)

>>18074218
You can't hate Marxism and love communism. They're the same thing.

>>18074185 (OP)
>Consume da CIA propaganda

>>18074185 (OP)
I can think of nothing sweeter or more just than millions of Left Wing Pigs starving to death. They thought they would steal! They thought they would be permitted to steal, and to take what was not theirs! But no, Stalin gets all of that. They get to starve, nice and slow.

Imagine watching your little thief children starve to death, just like Marx did. All skinny and emaciated. Where are your comrades? Where is the revolution? Your whore wife starves to death next. Nothing left to fuck. Like a bunch of tongue depressors in a leather bag. You're left with nothing, just sitting there sobbing for weeks as detah slowly comes to drag your shit colored little left wing soul down to an eternity of rape and torture.

I wish I could go and observe the mass famines, see them up close, laugh at the people starving. Leftt Wing Pigs. Why did you try to steal, Left Wing Pigs?

>>18074904
Nope. Sorry, shitkissing leftoids don't get to lie about what they believe.

But how DID Stalin die? Oh right, lmao. Blubbering on his back with shit on his teeth, because the kikes he helped ruin the country got tired of him. There is no chad Stalin. He died like a cuck, after letting his wife and son die like a cuck. Which is good. They deserved it for being left wing pigs.

>>18074911
Stalin died a hero after saving the world from fascism and putting the first man into space.
Hitler died in a bunker after shooting himself.

>>18074914
No, Stalin died a cuckold with Jewish shit on his lips, after having starved tens of millions of his people to death and killing his own family. Blubbering for his mommy while his own guards laughed at him. His own mother told him to his face that she was disappointed in him.

Hitler escaped to Argentina and died in the 1960s.

>>18074904
.....only problem is the modern left doesn't believe in any of those things and any free thing they would give is just for oppressed "people of color" minorities and not for any poor Whites because they have "White privilege"

>>18074919
Stalin died after turning his country, a feudal siefdom, into one of the most powerful countries in history. He also created the ground work for China, the most powerful country in the world today. He also defeated the US imperialists, in North Korea, and defeated Imperial Japan in Machuria.
Stalin was the most powerful, influential man of the 20th century. In his home country, and Russia, is the most popular historical figure in history.
Hitler, on the other hand, is nothing. He is the most hated, biggest loser of history. There are statues of Stalin everywhere in Russia, Georgia, but none of Hitler's statues in any of the places he ruled. In fact, it was a crime to glorify Hitler, but not a crime to glorify Stalin. As most people see, Stalin was a hero, a great man, and his actions made the world a better place.
Hitler is Damnatio memoriae while Stalin's legacy and heroism lives on in the hearts of man.

>NOOOOO IF YOU'RE RICH & PRIVILEGED YOU SHOULD NOT CARE ABOUT SOCIAL PROBLEMS.

Why is this always brought up as some gotcha vs. early Commie Leaders? Should they not have cared? Should they just followed the status quo and be elite dicks?

>>18074919
>>18074911
Why are Americans so obsessed with bringing cuckoldry into everything? It's the objective truth that Stalin died a hero.

>>18074919
>>1807491
Why are Americans so obsessed with bringing cuckoldry into everything? It's the objective truth that Stalin died a hero

>>18074926
Stalin died after starving millions of his people to death and creating a failed state with no culture or history.

It then collapsed within one generation and is now a traumatized joke country with no prospects that isn't even good at industry.

If you murder a chicken you can eat well for a day, but Stalin neither created anything noteworthy except for the horror it represented, nor did any favors to his people. He was a cuck and a loser, he lived his entire life desperately trying to protect himself at the expense of everyone else--and in the end he failed even at doing that.

Because, of course, he died a cuckold, and a pisssucker, with shit on his lips. He let Jews rape his people to death in the millions and then they poisoned him the nanosecond he stopped being useful. He died begging his mommy to save him, but nobody did, not even his closest friends, because everyone hated him.

And, of course, Russia is his tombstone. A shit colored failed state, with no future. Its raped people are so blown out by having been ruled by that incompetent retard that they still, to this day, cannot do anything right, they are still paying for Stalin's ineptitude.

>>18074957
No it isn't. It's the objective truth that Stalin is a cuck who was poisoned by Jews. He died sniveling, helpless, and alone, after making his fake country an international pariah which was then strangled to death over 50 years before quietly dissolving without a fight because the people would rather be a parking lot for America's Wall Mart Empire than continue carrying on his legacy.

He was a cuck with Jewish shitt between his teeth. This is how Stalin will be remembered in coming eras.

>>18075012
>failed state
your president is scared to do anything to stop it and continuously courts it because he's also scared of china.

>>18075012
>Stalin died after starving millions of his people to death
Never happened.
>>18075016
>No it isn't. It's the objective truth that Stalin is a cuck who was poisoned by Jews. He died sniveling, helpless, and alone,
You have Stalin confused with Hitler. When Stalin died, he had a large funeral and everything. Hitler had no funeral or anything. Instead, the average German saw this while their thousand year reich was turned into ashes.

>>18074871
Nothing you oppose is “mUh CiA pRoPaGaNdA.”
Take your meds.

>>18074904
>strong borders
>traditional family
You would be ejected from the tankie camp for advocating for these. And if you oppose transgenderism they'll call you a fascist

>>18074926
>a feudal siefdom
Russian Empire was neither feudal nor had a serfdom by the time of the revolution, so he starved and murdered millions for nothing

>>18074935
>>NOOOOO IF YOU'RE RICH & PRIVILEGED YOU SHOULD NOT CARE ABOUT SOCIAL PROBLEMS.
>Why is this always brought up as some gotcha vs. early Commie Leaders?
Because that's what early commie leaders said

>>18075305
You're a reddit tourist or a glowie. Red scares were done by the CIA before and they're being done by the CIA now.
>>18075346
Muttistan doesn't have communists. It has junkie loser anarchists. The people in that camp hate Chyna and squeal about the supposed persecution that uighurs face.

>>18075161
Stalin was denounced by Khrushchev and his gulag state was dismantled, while he lay there on the floor urinating, defacating, plans were already afoot for his own party to disown him in secret.
That speech by Kruschev had to be smuggled out.
Communists brag about Stalinist development but even Stalins home state of Georgia is a forgotten backwater. Hitler’s Austria went from strength to strength and even had a new Nazi party. Communists were so bad that while modern Russians revere Stalins apparent “strength” they don’t want his system whereas those across the world who recognize and respect Hitler also respect his programme.
Stalin was never elected into office except by his own party. An absolute minority in Russia. But it was too late, communism was a spent force able to hold ground only as long as the its poor people paid for it. The Soviet state like the Soviet project, unlike the National Socialist programme was a concoction of lies and half baked ideas so bad that it couldn’t even get close to power without violence and arms supplies from the West. The people fought communism again and again year after year until it either failed and became national socialism like in China or crumbled altogether and became a chaotic mess until western led liberal capitalism took over.
Todays Nazis hide as nationalists and are everywhere holding as they do to the much older and more based traditions of the original nation states. Today liberals on both sides run the nation states along American and Jewish approved lines.
Todays western communists, rather than being sacked, banned and jailed like todays open Nazis, are a joke, so bad they’re even allowed on TV to complain about capitalism and remain useful in suppressing free expression in liberal western cities and labor unions, the only thing they’ve been good for, for the liberals running the show, since the German and Spanish civil wars, when the need arises.

>>18076133
Meds now

>>18074185 (OP)
True. Most commies are just crypto-aristocrats. None of them actually like "the man on the street" because they view him as a dangerous reactionary.

>>18074957
I like how you always think its an American, ranjesh.

>Bolsheviks go apeshit after losing popularity to the CHAD SR's and throw their country into a civil war to save the proletariat from themselves (voting for other socialists that the bolsheviks think are meanieheads)
>engage in brutal years-long civil war where they prioritize wiping out other socialists over fighting German puppet governments in the territory they surrendered
>Bayonet the peasants and take their grain to feed your endless hordes of uppity city slickers so hard they had to backtrack on socialism and institute the NEP (cuck-chair revisionist backpedaling)
>Your nation is rescued from famine by one of History's most famous hardcore capitalists just because he pitied you and thought it would be a shame to let children die just because Lenin kept stroking out

>>18076162
>Stalin was denounced by Khrushchev
Stopped reading right there. Khruschev was a liar and a propagandist. Everything he said has been debunked by history. An anti-communist cretin, like yourself, is only good at repeating lies and propaganda.
>>18075659
>so he starved and murdered millions for nothing
Stalin didn't starve or "murder" anyone. Nazis and their collaborators aren't people.

>>18074185 (OP)
>Communist party leaders are mostly children of noblemen and well-off bourgeois (Lenin, Bukharin, Trotsky, Zinoviev, Mao, Zhou, Deng)


You forgot "Iron Felix" Dzerzhinsky, the architect of the Red Terror was a Polish nobleman.

>>18074871
>anyone who doesn't suck Marx's dick as hard I do is... LE CIA

My ancestors were fighting to drive their progenitors out of Virginia when yours were fucking farm animals, Ivan.

>>18077497

Brainlets hate Herbert Hoover for the Great Depression

Knowers hate Herbert Hoover for the American Relief Administration

>>18074185 (OP)
>>Land to peasants!
>>Come to power
>>Collectivize all the land and no one owns land anymore
Yeah, that's what it means. What did you assume they were all going to be yeoman farmers with their own little plots of land? That's how you actually get a famine.

>>18074904
Is stalin gonna build the house and school for me? Nah he's gonna steal it from someone else like the thug he was.

>>18077225
Americans are literally obsessed with cuckoldry. They have an entire field of law focused around cuckoldry and adultery. They pump material related to infidelity so that they can profiteer off of it. The countries that are closest to America, like Japan, also have this obsession with infidelity in their pop culture.
It is always an American. They stand against traditional values. It's too easy to tell.

>>18077847
>Nah he's gonna steal it from someone else
Taking stuff away from Nazis and monarchists isn't theft bud
Especially when they stole it in the first place through war

>>18077859
>if you have a company you must be a nazi/monarchist
Hatred of individual success is the downfall of communism. People can grow successful without having to fuck someone over, some people are just good at baking a lot of bread.

>>18077851
Sounds like you're the obsessed one. You should take your meds you schizo.

>>18077861
>Hatred of individual success is the downfall of communism.
Not really, considering the individual successes of Lenin, Stalin and Mao lead to communism. You're just mad communists are intelligent enough to not fall for your lies and attempts of manipulation with fallacious arguments. We know everything you have, in civilization, is the result of colonization, slavery and imperialism. We don't particularly care about your crocodile tears, and know that you merely a tool of the reaction. That's why you cry when the oppressed resist, such as Palestinians, when they rise against your evil system and murderous, genocidal intentions.

>>18077612
>Stalin didn't starve or "murder" anyone. Nazis and their collaborators aren't people.
That's why everyone hate your kind, because you have no self-awareness

>>18077947
NTA but if you actually went outside you'd see that people hate nazis and their collaborators. it's open season on anyone that has nazi stink lines emanating from them. even fascistic american corporations throw said nazis under the bus for the masses to feast on.

>>18077947
>That's why everyone hate your kind,
If that was the case, why is New York City about to elect a socialist mayor? Why do most people see socialism as favorable over capitalism? It seems you lack self awareness.

>>18077953
>>18078016
As I said no self-awareness. It completly fine for them to call a bunch of peasants or anyone really a nazi and this is enough justification for them to kill people.