Thread 18079515

Is abortion always immoral

If preventing abortion was a top priority for God then there would be no miscarriages and he wouldn't have flooded the Earth.

>>18079515 (OP)
oh yeah what's the christian explanation for severe congenital disease? it's not free will is it?

>>18079531
Outside the garden of Eden, chaos existed. That includes genetic chaos and "shit happens". The concept of humans, being the imagers of God, was to bring order to that chaos and work towards extending that Edenic existence across the face of the earth. However, we screwed up and now aren't in that Edenic existence working outwards, we're in the chaos and have an uphill struggle to work in the midst of the chaos to bring order to it.

We decided a long time ago as a people to live separate from God. God loves us so much he backs away and lets that happen. God is the source of all that is good, therefore backing away, giving us free will, invites chaos, sin, destruction, and a messed up world. The world being messed up isn't God's fault. It's yours and ours.

>>18079515 (OP)
The genetic toll has been paid.

>>18079515 (OP)
It's not immoral. Forcing a promiscuous woman to raise a child is bad for eugenics.
That child is going to grow up and be a headache for society as a result of all the torment their mother is going to subject them to.

>>18079551
Truly a deranged, misanthropic, psychopathic take to think that the condition in which the newborn child is in in the picture is ours and his fault included. Legitimately irredeemably fucked in the head.

>>18079515 (OP)
The problem with abortion is not the concept in of itself but the rather the fact it allows women to escape responsibility from having careless casual sex that more often than not has to have the bill footed by taxpayer dollars. So its either raise taxes for single mom welfare or let women murder their children in cold blood. You literally can't win unless something like no fault divorce is completely made illegal. The main argument against that however, is the domestic violence argument which is silly because if women spend their time gooning to jacked bodybuilders choking the shit out of them and sometimes even get off to it, it bears in mind that maybe the idea of things like rape, sexual harassment, and the aforementioned domestic violence are completely made up fictitious concepts which wholly depend on the attractiveness of the perpetrator.

Not an incel and have had sex many times before so don't @ me.

>>18079562
Youre such a piece of shit

>>18079515 (OP)
if nature had its way this thing would not survive

>>18079568
Is he wrong though?

>>18079515 (OP)
The problem with abortion is just the transitory negative effect that killing it would have on the soul. I reject consequentialism as a framework.

>>18079568
You haven't interacted around the demographic of women who seek abortions. They are some of the most antisocial people you will ever meet. In addition to harboring resentment to their child for being a fiscal drain (an attitude that can be attributed to American capitalist society), these women come from abusive households themselves. They know they have impunity to torture their children and they can brush it all off as "tough love" because of their "culcha" or whatever. Normal people don't come out of this style of parenting.
The child in OP's photo has an illness though. I didn't see that. What I wrote is not applicable to their situation.

>>18079515 (OP)
My ancestor Yakub :)

I don't support abortion, but I do support the idea of people who do not reproducing

>>18079515 (OP)
Abortion is a eugenics program that removes the world or undesirables. The majority of black babies and babies with known disabilities get aborted.

>>18079526
>I know better than God
the chutzpah on this ashkegoy

I support killing niggers

>>18079735
You didn't disprove anything he said.

>>18079746
It was disproven long time ago
Vae Victis

>>18079565
Nah whats deranged in the head is deciding one of God's creations should be killed because some humans said he should be because well, well everything is just relative okay and even though we have no sense of right or wrong since we're all mistakes well um I can just decide to kill you and uh well it's all moraly relative anyways so I'm not even a bad person though I kill you trust me :) Look at all the other people agreeing with me :) You look like youre suffering, a suffering baby, I will kill you because it will make me feel better :)

pro lifers should be taxed more than everyone else to pay for it.

>>18079767
they should just be executed. what you are seeing in the US is a product of pro lifers
more tax dollars won't address the issue in every country. mutts for example don't know how to properly run a government like europeans anglos and aussies do. they'll burn all the money on israel, expanding prisons, expanding the police and "group therapy session" sinecures. they'll continue letting working class become subject to the autismal violence of these undesired children so that they can perpetuate the "suburban middle class living" meme that they've been pushing since the 1950s.

>>18079515 (OP)
>tattoo on white skin
Yup

>>18079515 (OP)
Yes but so is doing drugs while pregnant (and thus producing malformed offspring).
seriously. 99% certainty this woman at least smoked pot while pregnant. the tattoo plus skin color(s) confirms.

>>18079562
>>18079568
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4PTf7LgsIE

Watch this whole video. This womans life is pure hell. She lives with a giant constant violent burden that will never EVER live any sort of quality of life. It makes me sick thinking that this poor woman is shackled with this sort of responsibility for the rest of her life because if she so much as says "this sucks" dipshit moralist like you will wag your finger at her.

People like this should be terminated for the sake of everyone.

>>18080033
YWNBAW

Yes but ironically not in the OPs case, because that crippled black guy will grow up to do less damage to society than able bodied black babies.

>see this 0.0000001% mutant
>well this justifies why it's ok to abort 99.999% of babies that are perfectly normal

Abortionists just want to kill babies

>>18079515 (OP)
Not in this case, look at that little swarthlet suffer lol

>>18080051
sybau chudcel she NEEDS to murder her children so she can hop back onto the cock carousel

>>18079515 (OP)
Remember when they used to sacrifice the brown people which came of race mixing between whites and backs to Moloch in order to ensure that civilization wouldn't collapse? It was an interesting religion.

>>18079562
>promiscuous woman
redundant

>>18079566
Just garnish the biological dad's wages. No need to make divorce illegal.

>>18080110
divorce statistically correlates with increased risk of suicide and drug addiction in children so yes it absolutely should be curtailed

>>18079735
>you should worship an evil god because... because you just can't understand him, okay?
Brownoid detected

https://www.tiktok.com/@samantamaaia/video/7522206210788134146

>the video was stolen from the actual mother
what the hell?

>>18080051
So true sister. Tyrone needs a baby daddy

>>18080160
>I'm ok with murdering healthy white babies because nigger babies get murdered too
why not just stop being a pussy and endorse genocide against all niggers then, why does it only have to happen in the womb

>>18080099
Source?

>>18080160
I don't care if 100 black babies are born as long as 1 white baby isn't aborted, we can deal with the little gangstas later.

>>18080166
Whites statistically abort at the lowest rates. Being anti-eugenics by necessity means you are ok with infinity niggers
>>18080219
Meanwhile, in reality, you never deal with them and they ethnically replace you.

>>18079515 (OP)
Wtf its just a head? Nigger females never take time to get prenatal care and drink, do drugs etc during pregnancies

>>18080202
he made it up in his head. it's the fresh new cope of the judeoanglo mutt race.

>>18080242
meanwhile in reality a handful of white men conquered entire brown "civilizations" countless times through history, literally all you have to do is stop being a naive socialist cuck moping in your basement and pushing for some weird anti-christianity psyop

>>18080122
>le tr00n conception of evul
>most likely can't even define it let alone explain it
yeah xixter we should all hail satan or whatever you weirdos do

>>18079752
i didn't argue for abortion, chud. but i guess those are the only two positions an american christcuck is capable of perceiving and arguing for/against

>>18080271
so get to conquering, anon!

>>18080166
>why not just stop being a pussy and endorse genocide against all niggers then

Way ahead of yah

>>18080033
>trying to compartmentalize autism

>>18080269
>judeoanglo
rent free

>>18080263
Could just be DNA mutations

>>18080271
>that painting
the original is better

>>18080099
Moloch isn't even a real deity. Moloch is more of the act and sense of cosmology, like being a Viking. The people who bring up Moloch (in those circles, not in ours) don't believe in entropy or notice these problems of civilization, they don't even think there are such problems.

>>18079515 (OP)
No and abortion should be mandatory for that baby and other babies with serious physical and mental diseases and disorders

> bodily autonomy
Forcing a woman to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term is state-sanctioned rape of her body. No one can be forced to use their organs to keep another person alive, not even a corpse.

> pro-life but only until birth
You don't give a shit about the kid once it's born. No support for the mother, cut welfare, defund schools. It's about controlling women and punishing them for having sex.

> not every pregnancy is viable
Rape, incest, life-threatening complications, severe fetal abnormalities. You want a 12-year-old to carry her rapist's baby? Get the fuck out of here with your moral grandstanding.

>>18080271
>Conquered
You mean became Brownoids themselves by mixing and not eugenicallg selecting for good traits because that’s what happened with all Spanish colonies

>>18080619
Im not trying to compartmentalize autism. Im showing that for all the whatever philosophical arguments you can conjur, living with a giant screaming simpleton whos life is constant torture and will never ever get better is fucking hell.