Thread 18086039

Many people make the argument that people in picrel are not "brown" because they come from Europe. His skin IS brown and no amount of genetic clustering will change that. Use European as the race. He is European but objectively speaking his skin is brown and not white.

there's no point in hairsplitting terminology anon, white = european. keep it simple.
detailed racial classifications are not really interesting to most people and are not politically relevant today, but the exact racial traits of white/european groups would be the subject matter of such fields. in general, physiologically i think northern europeans definitely present different traits, but ethnoculturally and politically that's not that important. future policy can deal with that questoin. for now europeans have other problems to address.

>>18086039 (OP)
You're not "European" if you aren't also white. "White" is just the secularized definition of the underlying religiously derived group identification.

>>18086163
Then use the term European. Calling a guy like picrel "white" is just mental gymnastics.

>>18086238
>use the term European to describe non whites
No. That is as retarded as describing bananas as apples.

>>18086238
no it isn't because we are not autistic robots thinking exclusively in literal terms but are capable of contextual processing. so for example when i call a swedish man white i and everyone else knows what i mean even though he is technically kind of pinkish and certainly NOT white.

>>18086251
Color terms for race are dumb. You call people "brown" as an insult. If you do that you are insulting Euros with brown skin.

>>18086259
>You call people "brown" as an insult.
Brown is just the secularized term for their underlying religiously derived group identification, abomination.

He's just tanned. Is George clooney not white because he's tanned?

>>18086267
Picrelated. He obviously has European facial features therefore he's white

>>18086039 (OP)
even in northern countries like wales, ireland, and germany you will find plenty of swarthy-skinned people, and i'm not talking about the migrants but the natives there

He has brown skin, isn't he white?

>>18086238
because it forces you to admit white Americans exist and this makes you uncomfortable. you can just admit that right now we'll all be good.

Woman from the far north of Europe with swarty skin

He's tanned, his face looks European. He passes in France as a native.

>>18086259
not really, unless they self-identify as brown. i know an ethnic gypsy guy who identifies as white and british. he doesn't think of himself as a brown person even though he is as brown as indians are.

>>18086281
He's not "swarthy". He's "brown". Danny DeVito is "swarthy". This man has the same skin color as Pakistan.

>>18086267
He isn't brown like picrel or Alcaraz

>>18086285
>>18086290
Peach skin. Not brown.

>>18086297
He looks Arab

>>18086296
Semantics.

>>18086286
?

>>18086297
He passes as a local in Gaza and Beirut

The first skin tone is swarthy. The second is brown. Any questions?

Again, lots of Iberians are phenotypically nonwhite even though they are European. See swarthy vs brown. The second guy? BROWN

Iberians either look French or North African. Not like real South Euros like South Italy.

>>18086285
Thought this was Duke Nukem until zooming in kek

Let's just pretend that Illojuan and Alvise Perez look White. Let's close our eyes and believe la la land.

>>18086267
Comparing George Clooney to Alvise Perez is pure stupidity

Iberians are literally sandniggers. They evolved in the desert. That's why so many Iberians resemble Saudis.

>>18086377
Yeah they go "BUT WE ARE THIS WAY BECAUSE WE ADAPTED TO THE CLIMATE". But they adapted to a DESERT and all races adapted to fucking climate

>>18086267
Again, you call people brown as an insult and then call his skin tanned. It's just semantics

>>18086039 (OP)
Shitty meaningless autistic thread

Sage

>>18086466
The term "white" is dumb

>>18086272
And Carlos Alcaraz doesn't

>>18086175
>The personification of this fake continent is a white woman that had sex with a cow.
Such a bizarre people. Why have they been like this in all of their history?

>>18086484
ok, you guys are black, happy?

>>18086331
don't act coy.

>>18086297
>>18086313
>>18086345
>his face looks European
He looks just high ANF med. He passes as a native in Italy, south France, Iberia, Levant, Balkans, ancient Greece, Rome.

>>18086809
Levantines are practically J33ts. He passes in IBERIA. Not any other part of Europe. Iberians adapted to a DESERT climate so they look weird

>>18086809
He doesn't look this way because of ANF. Reminder Iberia is a DESERT and Iberians evolved in the desert climate

>>18086361
I can no longer tell if you people are serious or if you reached the next level or retardation
this autistic, school yard name calling, white hair splitting, inferiority complex. are you all retarded 12 year olds from south america? what is going on? and why don't the jannies clean this up?

>>18086949
I think it's mental gymnastics to call the brown Iberians white. When you point out their skin is brown people say "No he's not brown he's from Europe". The WHG were brown and from Europe though.

>>18086039 (OP)
being white is a social thing, applying looks to it is pointless

>>18086352
>>18086361
genuine brainrot

>>18086809
>>18086345
>>18086313
Good try Ahmed.

>>18086039 (OP)
BTW, if anyone here wonder why the chimpout at this guy in particular it's because he is the only politician in Vox who calls out Latinx immigration for what it is : a net negative on every aspects.

>>18086999
Looks exactly like him. You're proving my point

>>18086981

Alcaraz's skin is not brown because it's in Europe? Magical thinking that borders make skin color disappear into thin air.

>>18087046
>>18086999
>>18086345
>>18086838
>>18086835
this is OP, a french samefag replying to himself
he passes as south italian btw, he has that luigi mangione berid phenotype

>>18086039 (OP)
why do you always make this thread? the answer is pretty simple, if you're not both genotypically and phenotypically white you're not white, it's that simple

>>18087050
making these memes is brainrot

>>18086039 (OP)
>He is European
>Spanish
Last time I've checked the southern border of Europe roughly coincides with the Loire, Alpes and the Danube.

>>18087169
Being retarded on purpose is still being retarded

>>18086039 (OP)
>He is European

>>18087055
Mangione looks Sicilian. This guy looks Arab. People are just making copes to say he looks pure Euro

>>18087253
uncle ben was right all along!?!?

>>18087298
For the most part (though I have no idea how). Irish people are white though. There's a strong correlation of eye colour and whiteness, but less so hair colour (Even original Europeans like WHG had blue eyes but dark hair)

>>18087306
The WHG looked J33t like except with light eyes.

>>18086039 (OP)
While you used a total outlier most of you don´t get that the lighting conditions means everything. As you can see the others in that picture are normal white.

>>18086361
The ones that look nonwhite are mixed with gypsies or extreme outliers like Alcaraz (his looks are extremely rare even in the south of Spain, in fact, he is an extreme outlier even in his own village).

This is how most Spaniards look like. I dare you to pinpoint just 1 (point out the second where they appear) that looks remotely nonwhite or brown from out of 200 that appear in the video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLrCphEhB6Y

>>18087374
They aren't outliers. Go to Andalusia or Murcia or Extremadura. Like I said, Iberians don't look South Euro to me. They either look like Frenchoids or like Moors. They could never fit into Greece, Sicily, Calabria, Campania ect.

>>18087264
he doesn't look arab because he has no armenization, he's berid, very common in iberia, sardinia and yes south italy too

>>18087310
whgs had hunter eyes, the opposite of indian eyes that are enormous

>>18087374
>I dare you to pinpoint just 1 (point out the second where they appear) t
9:05 man and child
9:38 both children
33:48 woman and child

>>18086039 (OP)
calling spaniards white is an insult to spaniards

spaniards were civilized swarthy people who treated women and nonwhites fairly, not like the white germanic men up north

>>18087430
Arabs look like Somalis. Very different phenotype from Armenid. Armenid is Caucasus/Anatolia-related and evolved in the mountains, not the desert.

>>18087430
south italians look exactly like iberians curiously, despite genetic differences, they look more like iberians than they look like greeks

>>18087462
true, greeks look extremely middle eastern by comparison

>>18087446
They might not look light but even being darker than average those that you pinpoint have European features (not the most representative but you can find "rare" faces everywhere even in northern Europe).

Is this English man whiter than those that you pinpoint? Obviously not.

Anyways, out of 200 you can just pinpoint 3-4.

>>18087497
He's not English he's W*lsh. See >>18087298
and >>18087306

That was at a cursory look. 1:17 the boy is obviously a Jew despite being 'white'. So that's another element to the admixture. It's not just skin colour.

>>18087462
>>18087467
South Italy has more Germanic blood from Goths, Lombards, Normans, etc. Much harder to find someone like this in Greece or Spain than in South Italy.

>>18087467
South Italians look like neither but med. Picrel is a classic Palermo type look

>>18087430
>>18087451
Scandinavians (the non-mongoloid types) also look like depigmented Somalians. This is why they are not white.

picrel shows the bulbous non-white forehead well, compared to a white native American.

>>18087530
White

>>18087537
white-adjacent

>>18086163
>there's no point in hairsplitting terminology anon, white = european
white is an exclusive racial supremacist category and nigger admixed medshits don't fit said category

>>18086296
Medjeets are niggers.

>>18087050
A fucking brown mongrel with nigger admixture whose name is literally Al-caraz CANNOT be white, it's a scientific impossibility, these medshit moor rapebabies were rightfully excluded from the white race back in the day because mixing is the same as mixing with full blooded nigger, it's polluting the white race's genepool

This is classical South Italy.

>>18087530
On the North Coast of Sicily you can see light pigment but not features that are this nordic. Picture the guys in picrel with light brown hair. That's more how lighter guys look in places like Palermo.

>>18087530
he looks like a terrone with blonde hair, nothing special or germanic about him
>>18087537
south italians look more like iberians than like greeks overall, greeks are extremely armenized, south italians instead have a lot of berid (palo sardinian) phenotypes like iberians and sardinians, and are very doli like iberians or sardinians

>>18087576
mixing with them*

>>18087586
true, south italians, sardinians and iberians are basically identical in appearance, plenty of Francisco Cerundolo and luigi mangione around those parts

>>18087530
the king of italian phenotypes has spoken, he's just a local nigga with lighter pigmentation

>>18087599
try alessandro orsini if you want to see an actual nordic looking south italian, immobile and abate are just light pigmented southerners

>>18087530
He still gives italian vibes or not pure germanic.

I am sure that you can´t find these kind of PURE NORDS in Italy or France but they exist in Spain.

This dude is 100% Spanish. Even Swedish posters say that he can perfectly pass in Sweden.

>>18087604
>alessandro orsini
He looks Brit, not really a germanic proper.

>>18087599
The area he's from (Benevento) is a hotspot for blond hair regardless. Probably has something to do with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Benevento

>>18087614
lel, look at this berid, he's like abate, just a depigmented southwest european that could pass as a local in southern italy, sardinia or iberia, nothing to do with northern europe

>>18087623
you can also try to find even a worst picture with less pixels and worst colouring. Just watch that youtube video to see the reality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRskEKvpT7c

100% Spanish yet he looks stereotypically Swedish. YOu can´t find nothing compared in Italy, France, or in many other countries. It is the Gothic blood.

>>18087623
Or if you prefer this one, he is from Andalucia. A 2m tall blond blue eyed chad.

>>18087631
yes he looks like a depigmented berid, could be the brother of this south italian girl

the greekjeet is wrong and coping, south italians, despite genetics, look more like sardinians and iberians than greeks

Some looks are South Italy specific. You can't find these looks in Greece or Iberia

>>18087639
Take your pills and have another Scandinavian looking Spaniard. This one is from Africa (Canarias).

>>18087640
greece rarely, iberia frequently, there's a strong berid element in iberia, sardinia and southern italy, sometime may be confused and overlaps with various foreign elements from the middle east or north africa, but it's at its core native, these are the lands of the luigi mangiones

>>18087639
Sardinians? Yes. Sardinians are Italians. Iberians? No. Nobody in Reggio Calabria looks Iberian

Iberia has the most variety. Swedish looking people that put France to shame and Berber looking types that make Drew Pavlou look white.

>>18087653
people in reggio calabria look more like iberians with their strong dolichephaly and berid influences than they look like peloponnese, greekjeet you are much more significantly armenized

>>18087430
His skin is BROWN. Mangiones isn't. He can fit into Lebanon

>>18087673
mangione's skin is brown too, both him and mangione are phenotypic berid co-nationals, they could be cousins

>>18087660
Greeks and Iberians look quite similar to me. Italians clearly stand out from the rest of the Mediterranean.

>A 2002 study found the prevalence of blue eye color among the white population in the United States to be 33.8% for those born from 1936 through 1951, compared with 57.4% for those born from 1899 through 1905.[15] As of 2006, one out of every six Americans, or 16.6% of the total US population, has blue eyes,[66] including 22.3% of whites. The incidence of blue eyes continues to decline among American children.[67] In southern Europe, 56% of Slovenes, 40.8% of Italians from Verona, 22.5% of Spaniards from Alicante and 15.4% of Greeks from Thessaloniki have green, gray or blue eyes.[68][69] In a series of 221 photographs of Spanish subjects, 16.3% of the subjects were determined to have blue-gray eyes.[46] In Poland, a study of 1,020 people found that 52.5% had blue irises, with men being ~1.5 times more likely to have blue eyes than women.[70]

>Another study from 2012 included 150 dental school students from the University of Athens, and the results of the study showed that light hair colour (blonde/light ash brown) was predominant in 10.7% of the students. 36% had medium hair colour (light brown/medium darkest brown), 32% had darkest brown and 21% black (15.3 off black, 6% midnight black). In conclusion, the hair colour of young Greeks are mostly brown, ranging from light to dark brown with significant minorities having black and blonde hair. The same study also showed that the eye colour of the students was 14.6% blue/green, 28% medium (light brown) and 57.4% dark brown.[275]

>>18087754
Everyone knows Northern Italy is Nordic. Verona is North Italy and North Italy is Germanic

>>18087604
>nordic looking south italian

Nords look chinkier and more robust on average than depigmented Italians. Look at these players from the South Italians team. Pic related light Italian.

https://napolifemminile.it/rosa/

>>18087524
Rent free

>>18087673
>>18087682
>berid
Is this another word for NAFRI? Mangione looks pseudo-nafri because he's a Siciloid Moor.

>>18087767
>Light Nordic

>>18087793
>Light Central European

Less chinky than the Nordic.

>>18087754
we're not talking about coloration, and veronese have noting to south italians, south italians look like iberians and sardnians

>>18087792
no, berid, paleo sardinian, is a native phenotype in south italy and iberia, that can look a bit pseudonafri at times

>>18087767
piedmontese, irrelevant to the argument, beridism are almost absent in northern italy

>>18087802
>Light Polish

They really look different from Germans.

>>18087821
now the actual light south italian (neapolitan) Manuela Sciabica
a robust berid basically

>>18087754
>verona
may as well pick austria or slovenia
>22.5% of Spaniards from Alicante
i can see similar results for southern italy

>>18087857
Valencia is Catalan, i.e the equivalent of North Italians in Iberia. Moortugal and Andalusia would be far darker.

>>18087861
valencia isn't catalan and iberians don't have the same diversity in genetics and pigmentation anyway

>>18087857
true, it sounds alright for southern italy

>>18087861
there's no north italian equivalent in iberia, people from alicante and andalusia are genetically 10 times closer than people from verona and calabria

>>18087905
Basques are comparable. G25 is very arbitrary with what type of drift they include and their anchors.

>>18086286
Nah he's just an asshurt brownoid from the middle east who wants to claim southern Europeans as his own. His actual people are to be found as bones and dust under the rubble in Gaza.

>>18088059
basque are not north italian equivalents, they're as close to europe compared to other iberians or less

>>18088067
1) They're the lightest people in Iberia by far
2) Genetic distance between them and the rest of Iberia is often greater than the distance between North and South Italians depending on the method/genetic PCA used.

>>18086365
Check out Duke Nukem voicelver parodies

>>18088066

You use brown as an insult as if the guy in picrel's skin isn't brown.

>>18087682
This skin isn't visibly brown

>white is just a judeo-american term for kikes to blend in.
Closing thread.

>>18087843
She is Sicilian, but you obviously missed my point that light Scandinavians are often chinky looking like pic related.

>>18088095
1-by a bit not by far
2-their distance is not towards europe

>>18088157
The Spanish_North (Aragon_North) samples are what all of Iberia would be like if they didn't have Italian/Jewish/North African admixture: >>18088059

>>18088167
okay? doesn't change my argument, there's no north italian equivalent in spain, people from alicante and andalusia are genetically 10 times closer than people from verona and calabria

>>18088167
>jewish
no, it's middle eastern, that italians also have

>>18088189
...According to G25 which I'm convinced fucks up distances related to WHG, CHG and Iran_N after some other guy pointed it out.

>>18088209
Italians are more likely to have Jew than MENA. Some families like the Ferraro in Calabria are crypto Jews

>>18088217
Genetic distances don't make Iberians less brown looking. They adapted to the desert climate like the Arabs. Convergent evolution

>>18088217
according to any single tool, people from alicante and andalusia are genetically 10 times closer than people from verona and calabria

>>18088220
no population in the world has more than 1% jewish ancestry

>>18087552
There is no such thing as armenization
>>18087451
Scandinavians are the peak of whiteness with their high euro hg. Also, white injuns don't exist.
>>18087767
Scandinavians don't have chink blood, stop repeating that shit.

>>18087821
>beridism
physical anthropology is for retards

>>18088473
>Scandinavians are the peak of whiteness

>>18088473
>Scandinavians don't have chink blood, stop repeating that shit.
Swedes are on average 5% Nganasan/Krasnoyarsk_BA which is pretty much pure Asian blood. Even Scanians are 2% and Scania is historically Danish territory. On any PCA, Scandinavians have a slight shift towards Uralics compared to other Europeans. Norwegians and Danes have the least, though. You can do the models in admixtools2 yourself. There is no point in denying something true, there is an Asian signal in them that had to come from somewhere.

>>18087660
Holy fuck what level of mental illness is this lol, how do you even end up like this

>>18088547
greekjeet samefag post

>>18088504
imagine coping so much, swedes and norwegians are more than 70% germanic IA

>>18086039 (OP)
The concept of European is defined by culture, not race because racialism is just a pseudoscience from the 19th century.
A black man born and raised in a European country will always be more European than some American with European ancestry. I have literally more in common with a black British than with a white American with British ancestry.

>but le heckin haplogroups
Ah yes, the 0.1% gene variation in the DNA which only influences phenotypes. That's not race, just what racists think "race" is

>>18088095
>Genetic distance between them and the rest of Iberia is often greater than the distance between North and South Italians depending on the method/genetic PCA used
Lmao what kind of delusion is this. The distance between Basque and Portuguese is comparable to the distance between Venetians and Tuscans at most

>>18088167
>Spanish_North (Aragon_North)
They are from Álava, in the Basque Country. Monkey.

>>18086238
"White" originally meant "Anglo"
that's it. literally.
it was never any deeper than that until a bunch of noneuropeans started flooding the West.
at that point, Italians, Irishmen, Polacks, etc. all had to "become white", or, "essentially WASP" by comparison to the noneuros moving in.

>>18088755
if i remember correctly they are spanish speaking basque

>>18088726
G25 is not a real source. There's a massive distance between Iberians and Basques on Fst.

>>18088785
According to FST French are closer to Turks than to Basques. It's obviously not reliable in this case.

>>18088785
it's mostly due to isolation that is inflated massively in fsts, for the same reason they're separated from everyone, not just other iberians, they're not the northern italian equivalent of iberia

>>18088789
G25 is not reliable either. The distance between Sicilians and Venetians/North Italians is much smaller than the distance between Spaniards and Basques in this PCA. It depends on what you use as anchors/plot it against.

>>18088800
the distances between venetians and sicilians is massive, this pca is not meant to show that, stop spamming it, coping terrone

>>18088816
Prove G25 is accurate then. Oh wait you can't. It's made by a Slavshit with an agenda against the real Med Master Race. He accidentally made the ancient Greeks super distant from Europeans lmao.

>>18088863
All your attempt at trolling Iberians fail pathetically. You try so hard but in the end it doesn't even matter.

>>18088863
i'm not the guy talking about g25, venetians and sicilians are extremely distant from each other as any study has demonstrated, literal subhuman
due to isolation basque are distant from anyone on fst, but it's clear that it's isolation due to f2s, f4s, pcas (not this weird cherrypicked pca of course that you keep spamming), and as always basque are fucking irrelevant even since we're talking about alicante and andalusia, remember tranny? as always your shitting up the thread with your greekjeet nonsense no one gives a shit about

worthless tranny, sicilians are not 40% blue eyed, they're at best 20% like iberians

>>18088863
both north italian and iberians (WEurope1 2 and 3) cluster more with basques (WEurope4)

>>18088876
Distance between Spaniards and Basques greater than the distance between Sicilians and North Italians in the Himera PCA. It's over for GCope25. He was too much of a coward to publish the Himera civilian samples even.

>>18088894
that looks about the same, tranny, anyway back to the argument, people from alicante and andalusia are genetically 10 times closer than people from verona and calabria (notice how the basque aren't mentioned?)

>>18088890
terronis really be claiming we wuz veronese, the absolute state of these mutts

>>18088898
Faggot, I measured it. Don't try me. Sicilian to North Italian: 300 pixels. Spanish to Basque: 390 pixels.

>>18088909
no it's about the fucking same, just incredible i even have to argue this like a 12 years old kid, i can see you made the line to the basque go all the way to the end of the cluster and the in italians you made the red line start at the closest post from southern italy
we're done talking about this retarded nonsense

people from alicante and andalusia are genetically 10 times closer than people from verona and calabria

Nobody cares about your dumb charts when you look brown like Illojuan Paco. You evolved in a desert and no chart will unbrown you. North Italians and Basques didn't evolve in a desert.

>>18088918
You can stop spamming GCope25 distances. No one will take it seriously now
>inb4 you waahhh waaaahh
I picked the middle of both clusters. Eat shit.

>>18088966
>You can stop spamming GCope25 distances
you're the only one that posted a g25 chart in the entire thread, stupid troon
>I picked the middle of both clusters. Eat shit.
no you didnt, the lines are still biased, it's about the same

now, let's go back to the argument, people from alicante and andalusia are genetically 10 times closer than people from verona and calabria

>>18088489
What's Mongoloid about this man and Anders Breivik? You also include people with Down syndrome and photos of famous blond Mongolians. I can choose 100 meds with Alessia Cara and Alcaraz Negroid phenotype for every borealized Scandinavian.
>>18088504
And meds have negroid blood via nafri ibm/natufian which is even worse.

>>18088981
Picrelated

>>18088985
>>18088981
My point is that neither meds nor Scandinavians are white. Only British people are pure white. Picrel.

>>18089003
Nord face that comes to mind when anyone thinks of a White face

>>18088981
Funny how women around the world always say that they like Spaniards, French, Italians and Greeks the most, women all go to those countries to have sexual escapades with men there. Spain is famous for being the country where girls in Erasmus go wild. You almost never catch them say they like Germoids or Norwegians or whatever you nazi polcels jerk off to, why? because they have ugly traits, those thin straight hair prone to balding, short piggish noses, huge foreheads, tiny tiny eyes. No amount of trolling ''meds'' will ever change those undesiderable features from your pig germoid face

>>18089007
and Mr. Bean doesn't look like an Illojuan type

>>18089007
>Dolph Mudgren-notorious race mixer with Gordon Ramseyoid wrinklehead
He's the white that proves the swarth, so to speak. He also has an under-developed brow, which proves him somewhat swarthy. Contrast picrel. Rowan Atkinson is not white, because he has brown eyes. and MENA bat wing ears; I didn't say EVERY one in Britain was white, but only amongst the British do you find them>>18089003 is the perfect example of a pure European. You don't find it elsewhere.

>>18089044
>Rowan Atkinson is not white, because he has brown eyes

holy mental illness, I guess Shakespeare wasn't white either lol

>>18089032
Scandinavians, on average, have the most attractive men and women in the world, whites with better genes should be the goal of whiteness.

>>18089046
>I guess Shakespeare wasn't white either lol
Shakespeare had blue eyes.

>>18089050
They have a huge number of Somalian tier bulb-heads and overly neotenous baby-faces.

>>18089055
In your nazicel delusional mind perhaps

>>18089058
There's no population in the world so small that it has produced as many attractive people as Scandinavians.

>>18089050
i would say dutch and northwest germans are the best, maybe south danish too, northern sweden and northern norway aren't ideal

>>18089048
Corsicans are Italians, not Germoids, so they don't have the ugly germoid traits I was describing above. And of course they don't all look like that balding blonde guy you posted, did you find a pic of some dork who kinda looks like you? very scientific

You will never have an aquiline nose or curly hair, you will never be Roman/Med and desired by women all over the world like meds are. Your see thru thin hair and pork germoid features will haunt you everytime you look in a mirror

>>18089068
Non-whites massively overestimate Scandinavians because they are obsessed with blond hair beyond all reason. Picrel mogs all of them.

>>18089071
Cry about it Mohammed al-Turk bin Abraham. You're a mongrel squatting in the ruins of the white man's glory. Isn't it enough to bask in their light? Even a parasite, if it could think, wouldn't be so shameless as to claim the identity of its host.

>>18089071
there's no roman/med ethnicity, corsicans are north italians, more than 50% of them have r1b too

>>18089070
>>18089074
They're genetically very close to Scandinavians. Picelated look like a natty version of her

>>18089083
The ''white men'' were the ones squatting in mudhuts unable to write or read for millennia after the Greeks and Romans, you needed to be taught to read and write and wipe your ass by meds. The Romans never clustered with any Germoid lol, even if you go back to when they were literal shepherds and you take the few iron age samples we have they still cluster with Spaniards, Tuscans and Corsicans, not with any Germoid. You will never be Roman/Greek pork face, you should stop with the self-hate and embrace who you actually are

>>18086039 (OP)
I'm not a leftist but it's true that "whiteness" is a social construct.

If a black and white person have a kid, that mixed person is black despite being half white. They're supposedly as black as someone with full African DNA. Even someone who is 1/8 black and looks white except for curlier hair and slightly darker skin is considered black. It's utterly retarded

White is the only "race" where you have to be 100% white to be considered as such

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>>18089093
Yes, but the actual features of Scandinavians tend to be inferior in my opinion. Obviously you get gigachad outliers, as with every group. Compare a native British type (here represented by an Irishman) to an English Germanic latecomer in picrel. Ignoring the huge size difference, the Irishman has far more harmonious features.

>>18089094
I'm not Germanic you retard Zuttoid.

>>18089145
The Anglo-celtic swarthoid exotic med phenotype can be very attractive, it's more attractive than real meds.

>>18089163
>bongs are meds - if they're attractive
kek

>>18088981
North Europeans have prognathic types too, but it's more like a SEAnig instead of an African.

>>18089168
Funny how the most attractive meds are the ones who look the most Northwestern Euro.

Mr Bean is swarthy not brown. By brown I mean Iberian types like picrel. Luigi Mangione is also not brown.

>>18089193
Those painfully generic dudes ''most attractive meds'' lol, I just know you are a homosexual with that kind of taste. Also your self-hate is again showing because Blanca Soler looks absolutely nothing like a northern euro

>>18089193
Those are just stereotypical 'Chad/Jock' features. The average Nordic looks nothing like that.
>b-but muh faelid
They look like ugly apes like Oliver Kahn or Brock Lesnar.

>>18089228
he's right, the most attractive meds look northern european

>>18089228
She looks british. The most attractive Portuguese girl now looks straight up Swedish.
>>18089232
Fake morphs, according to that, Asians are paler than Europeans when on average we all know that Asians are dark.

francisco cerundolo, argentinian of south italian origins, an even more extreme version of luigi mangione
you don't find these faces in greece, the most extreme brown greeks tend to look like pakistanis, while often the brownest iberians and south italians tend to look like this

>>18089276
The peak of Portuguese genetics only looks like average French people.

>>18089295
Outside of Sardinia, 'Paleo-Sardinian' is found mostly in Sicily and Calabria according to humanphenotypes. I feel like it can be confused with nafri admixture because those are the only regions of Italy that have it in a significant degree.

>>18089319
it's present in all of southern italy

>>18089295
he looks exactly like mangione

>>18089304
the french are mostly northern european

>>18089325
Show me Apulian who looks like that.

Also, I bet the retards here would call this guy "North Euro" even though he's South Italian and therefore the furthest thing possible from it in Europe. Nordics didn't invent square jaws.

>>18089383
cerundolo is an extreme case, but plenty of south italians from any region have lighter forms than him, there is no exception to this rule

>>18089383
the expert has spoken, a berid-dinarid mix, typical of southern italy, not northern european

>>18089402
Looks nothing like a Berid nigger. Robusticity in S. Italians/Greeks is more properly attributed to CHG genes.

>>18089420
he looks like a berid, it's one of the main component of southern italians

>>18089424
No it isn't. Outside of Sardinia it's only common in regions with nafri admixture. Humanphenotypes even says it's similar to Berberid, so it can be confused with it. Conte looks like a robustoid from the Caucasus. The EHG were also horse faced chinks, so it's clear where Yamna got their robust features from.

>>18089448
yes it is, humanphenotypes is useless, conte is a berid-dinarid that looks nothing like these people you're posting, it's a phenotype widespread in southern italy and sardinia, it's one of the main component of southern italians

here another depigmented south italian berid that could be conte's sister in appearance

>>18089454
the expert of italian phenotypes confirms, this is basically a female conte

>>18086377
iberia is surprisingly desertic for european standards, this is also true for siciliy to a lesser extent

>>18087639
she looks cute, in a monkeysh way

why do spics larp as med

>>18089478
do they?

>>18089479
did you think it was spanish and italian posters making these garbage posts?
LMAO
no, it's mexcrements and other spics larping as spanish or argies/brazilians larping as italian

>>18089454
'Berid' or whatever in Sardinia and Iberia is WHG-influenced. That can't be the case in South Italy as their WHG is non-existent, so the robust/coarse features can be better explained by IBM and CHG influences.

>>18089493
>'Berid' or whatever in Sardinia and Iberia is WHG-influenced.
it's not, it's not present anywhere else in europe, it's a southern italian and sardinian phenotype found also in iberia, hence why it's the case in southern italy, it's very much the case since it's one of the main phenotypes in southern italy
>so the robust/coarse features can be better explained by IBM and CHG influences.
no, mesolithic hgs are irrelevant to the argument, stop bringing them up everytime you piss in your pants

>>18089475
she's not rare in southern italy

>>18088863
why are italian americans such crazy mongrels? not even actual southern italians are like this
>>>/int/216012546

>>18089497
>Paleo-Sardinian
>Ancient type, was widespread in Central Europe during the Neolithic, has survived as a minority element in the mountains of the Italian island of Sardinia. Morphologically similar to Berberid, although significantly gracilised and genetically different. Both show a Paleo Mediterranean state. Similar traces exist in Perigord (France), Aegean islands, Eastern Sicily, Southern Calabria, and Southern Turkey.
Sicily, Calabria, France and Aegean islands.

>>18089514
>humanphenotyes.net
in the trash it goes

>>18089500
seething spic
you will never be spanish sanchez

>>18089519
i'm not spanish but did you know that sanchez is a spanish name?

>>18089515
It's a WHGjeet phenotype clearly. Notice the wording used that it's only "similar traces" found in other regions.

>>18089535
no it's not, it's a southern european phenotype mainly found in southern italy and sardinia, the whg is completely irrelevant to the argument, stop bringing it up every 2 comments, let it go

and humanphenotype is an irrelevant website created by random unnamed shitskin

>>18089535
for every french that looks like this there are 20 south italians

>>18086039 (OP)
Genetics and phenotypes are both important, also phenotype to most people just mean pigmentation

>>18086175
religiously?

>>18089295
Cerundolo is an Argie castizo and Mangione is an outlier. You have no idea on how Italians look on average.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/italicroots/italian-talent-show-contestants-t8028.html

Mangione isn't an outlier. He'd be very much at home in Sicily.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_l8aauaJHA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ORuH1zRIBY

He looks just like the people in places like here (both videos here are of Borgetto Sicily)
He doesn't look black like North Africans but does look "swarthy"

>>18089815
There is something archaic about him

>>18089882
He's not really white that's for sure

>>18089640
Cerundolo doesn't seem to be a mestizo and he looks basically like Luigi mangione, the resemblance is uncanny

>>18089882
He looks ancient Greek

>>18086039 (OP)
"White" is not a word for "European". "White" is a word for British. Anyone who uses the word White to refer to all Europeans is either confused about what the term means, or is a non-White person trying to latch onto the accomplishments of the English, i.e. a parasite.

ITT:

>>18089935
Not at all, he's very western in appearance, probably looks more like an ancient southern European erf

>>18089949
white means nordic

>>18089295
>>18089889
That's clearly not a full Italian. What are you trying. Mangione is one thing but this guy is a just a typical Argensimian brownie (they're only 70% Euro on average).

>>18090244
>AI
useless, he's identical to mangione

>>18089640
he has obviously no native american ancestry, he's just south italian

>>18090252
Your brain is identical to dogshit

>>18090244
Pope Francis, Ana Paula Arosio are 100% Italian South Americans and Bolsonaro is mostly italian. It's a shame this Pope Francis's nephew, a completely wasted lineage. Also Bolsonaro is a racemixer with brownoids, his sons are castizoids.

>>18090262
do you understand that the results of this AI are useless? it's as if you posted nothing, he's identical to mangione

>>18090256
You would say that about Messi too even though he does through his mestizo looking grandma. The small amount of Amerindian makes him look pseudo-nordoid instead of Iberian/Italian.

>>18090306
no i wouldn't say that about messi, cerundolo doesn't have any native american influences, he's just south italian

>>18090244
>>18090262
2 campanianbros

>>18090309
Post an actual Italian who looks like him then. No, Mangione doesn't count, retard.