Thread 18086293

YHWH personally commanded Abraham to cute his foreskin and Moses to do sacrifices. But Paul, a random Jew, decided that this was no longer necessary. So was Paul more powerful than GOD?

That isn't the name of the one true God. God gave that name to his people for their salvation and you do not have it.

>>18086293 (OP)
Jesus was from another god

>>18086293 (OP)
This is why Christianity doesn't make any sense. It relies on the Pauline epistles.

>>18086298
What kind of heresy are you spreading?
God came down as the Son of Man, Jesus Christ
He does not keep His Name secret because he is the Truth, the Light, the Way
>But we don't know the Father's Name
Christ told us who has seen the Son has seen the Father

>Paul
You mean Saul? The guy who said he only saw Jesus in dreams and visions

>>18086337
The correct move is Hegelian absolute idealism.

>>18086293 (OP)
>book of Acts
>takes place right after Jesus appoints his apostles as his successors on earth and ascends
>they go to preach throughout Judea in the name of Jesus

Meanwhile
>Pharisee Saul of Tarsus bounty hunts Christians
>has a conversion experience and switches to the Christian side
>meets the apostles at several meetings and debates theology with them
>also participates in the first regional council with the apostles present, where they agree together on important theological issues, like circumcising Gentiles
>>the apostles, *being granted the authority of Christ on earth as his successors*, ultimately agree with Paul on these issues and validate his teachings

I swear none of you have read the book of Acts.

>>18086293 (OP)
More powerful than the demiurge? Yes.

Maybe it was Paul from spider man time traveling back in time?!

>>18086370
In Acts, after his conversion, Paul is down in Jerusalem after just a couple of weeks, and thereafter is in and out of Jerusalem five times before the General Counsel, having been introduced to the Apostles by Barnabas and had various interactions with the Christians of Judea. In Galatians, Paul converts, does missionary work for three years, visits Peter for just two weeks, and then spends the next fourteen years up in the north once more, asserting that he did not know any Christians in Jerusalem, and did not know any one of the first generation of Christians except for Peter and James. The stories are completely at odds with one another.

Also in Acts Paul goes with the flow of the general Apostolic sentiment that Gentile Christians are just fine and don’t have to follow Mosaic Law. In Galatians, there is no flow in this direction, it is only Paul pressing for Gentile Christianity without Mosaic Law, such that he concludes the tale of his frustrations at the council by telling his listeners “for if justification comes through the law, then Christ died for nothing” In Acts, Barnabas is Paul’s conduit to the Apostolic inner circle during Paul’s first month as a Christian, and thereafter companion. In Galatians, Paul only goes to Jerusalem with Barnabas after seventeen years of being a Christian.

There are serious questions raised by these discrepancies. When did Paul first go to Jerusalem? What actually happened at the General Counsel that both texts describe? Why does Galatians, written by Paul in the early 50s, say that Paul was the Apostle to the Gentiles, where Acts, written three decades later, claim that Peter was the Apostle to the Gentiles? Was Paul merely a late convert who politely fell in line, as in Acts? Or, as in Galatians, was Paul’s singular, progressive attitude toward conversion literally THE reason that Christianity ever became something more than a transient Jewish cult? Who should we believe?

>>18086293 (OP)
It's only necessary for Jews OP
It was never a condition for Gentiles

>>18086337
There is no "Saul of Tarsus". It's a fictional name and history used by the author of Acts, and nowhere to be found in the authentic Pauline letters. Paul was always Paul the Hellenic Jew.

>>18086337
Wojaks were funny until 2019, where most were under 25, but we are mature now and we don't need to look like children with Wojaks, but I see this pattern among e-pagans, maybe it's time to stop using Wojaks? And we have a problem with the meme, most pagans are actually dark-skinned (Hindus)

>>18086293 (OP)
The thing is that when God gave the law he did it in front of millions of people with great signs and miracles, set an entire mountain ablaze at night and then spoke with his own thundering voice from heaven and millions of people heard him and feared and believed.

But when he decided supposedly to abolish the law he then just tells it to a random man in a secret vision and were just supposed to believe it.

>>18086335
its a play on words, or a set of words with two meanings. One meant for the profane, one for the initiated. Solve the riddle of how the name of God can give salvation and you may see the path.

>>18087095
The law is for Jews

>>18087411
The law is a path to holiness.

>>18086530
>>18086548
Theory. There were multiple Pauls.

>>18086530
There's also the discrepancy that in Galatians, when Paul is under pressure from Jewish Christians to require Titus to be circumcised, he "did not submit to them even for a moment, so that the truth of the gospel might always remain with you." And later he says,
>I, Paul, am telling you that, if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no benefit to you. Once again I testify to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obliged to obey the entire law. You who want to be reckoned as righteous by the law have cut yourselves off from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.
But in Acts Paul has Timothy circumcised preemptively to avoid even the possibility of offending some Jews they might come across in their missionary efforts.
???

>>18087118
>come get initiated in some gay apron wearing 'club' bro
No thank you. Keep your 'hidden blessings'
Christianity is revealed

>>18086293 (OP)
Yahweh personally commanded ancestor veneration, and later some retarded prophet decided no more of that.
Spiritually this is where abrahamic religions died.

>>18087655
>testify to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obliged to obey the entire law.
He says this as if it was a bad thing. Which law is so hard to keep anyways? The law is simple morality.

Psalm 19:7-13

The law of the Lord is perfect,
refreshing the soul.
The statutes of the Lord are trustworthy,
making wise the simple.
The precepts of the Lord are right,
giving joy to the heart.
The commands of the Lord are radiant,
giving light to the eyes.
The fear of the Lord is pure,
enduring forever.
The decrees of the Lord are firm,
and all of them are righteous.

They are more precious than gold,
than much pure gold;
they are sweeter than honey,
than honey from the honeycomb.
By them your servant is warned;
in keeping them there is great reward.
But who can discern their own errors?
Forgive my hidden faults.
Keep your servant also from willful sins;
may they not rule over me.
Then I will be blameless,
innocent of great transgression.