Thread 18092132

I don't see anything wrong with this.

>>18092132 (OP)
Virginia should be whole but other than that, yeah.

>>18092132 (OP)
The Confederacy would just be a containment zone for blacks, Mexicans, and Spaniards

>>18092167
Preferable to the what actually happened

>>18092132 (OP)
the confederacy would have been a poor country on the level of eastern europe. i mean even now they're essentially subsidized by more lucrative blue states, they take more federal dollars than they bring in. TX would probably be ok once oil was discovered but the rest of it would be a shithole...much like today Tbh

The Confederacy would've just sued for peace and to be reintegrated on more favorable terms. Pretending as if it would've stayed a country long is a LARP

>>18092206
The CSA today would likely be closer to modern Brazil rather than the modern US south.

>>18092132 (OP)
Imagine the border skirmishes and subversive political actions against one another

>>18092394
Given how slavery was a dead end regardless I wouldn't be surprised if they just turned a blind eye to illegal immigration of blacks north/westwards once they eventually ended up banning it, just like Northern Irish politicans secretly hoped that emigration by impoverished Catholics to the UK/rest of the Anglosphere would improve their demographics

>>18092132 (OP)
It would be a massive shithole

>>18092394
>>18092420
The Confederacy had a racial supremacist aristocracy, what the fuck do you mean they would have these race-blind anti-labor policies?
is this the famous communist pivot?

>>18092747
You’re right, it wouldn’t end up looking like Brazil. It would end up looking like Haiti.

>>18093210
The South becoming Haiti was one of their biggest fears regarding the end of slavery

>>18092132 (OP)
but tbey were le evil! think of what would George Washington and Thomas Jefferson think of slavery!

>>18093366
The Confederacy was evil because they would have racially destroyed themselves for a class of subhuman parasites, if given the chance to govern themselves. The North was right for what they did

>>18092132 (OP)

Based

>>18092136

desu, even if the Confederacy had won, the Union would have demanded slicing off the Northern tip of Virginia as a buffer zone for Washington DC and the CSA in not much of a position to contest it. Arlington would be militarized on a level comparable to the Korean DMZ.

>>18092206
>>18092394
>projection - the posts

>>18092383
>The 13 Colonies would've just sued for peace and to be reintegrated on more favorable terms. Pretending as if it would've stayed a country long is a LARP

>>18093366
>George Washington

Probably wouldn't have approved since he had Federalist leanings

>Thomas Jefferson

He would have seen the Lincoln and his Republicans as just another continuation of the Federalist Party and supported the CSA on that alone.

>>18092167
>Mexicans, and Spaniards

Huh?

>>18092132 (OP)
That's not the Confederate national flag

>>18092206
yeah but blue states love homosexuals and agree with feminism and alimony and that's bad.

>>18092747
look up George Fitzhugh

>>18092206
>>18094995
>deindustrialize the US
>act smug when economic activity is concentrated in places with services and consumption rather than industry

>>18093291
I know. Which is why the southerners of today should call it the War of Northern Beneficence, call Lincoln the Great Savior, and refer to Sherman’s March to the Sea as the Rescue Trail, since the war was the only thing that was going to stop slavery from ending up in a Haiti situation. It wasn’t like the south was going to stop doing that stuff to begin with without outside help.

>>18092132 (OP)
The south would of collapsed, they were poor as fuck. Most of the countries wealth was in new england. And then lets not forget davis was a fucking moron, there was no way he could hold a country together.

>>18092397

This is actually one of the more interesting aspects of American Civil War alternative histories that gets completely glossed over in discussions. Just because the Union and Confederate governments made peace doesn't mean that the killing would stop. You would have a whole lot of people on both sides, Abolitionists, Southern Unionists, Virginians angry at the loss of the Northern and Western parts of their state that would have almost certainly resulted from any peace deal, Kentuckians, Missourians, and Marylanders angry at being forced to remain in the Union, who wouldn't accept the final outcome and fight on. Either the Mason-Dixon Line would have to become a demilitarized zone comparable to the two Koreas or you would have militias crossing the borders and killing each other in low-level turf wars to force a particular county or town back into the Union or into the Confederacy.

You could easily get a situation where even if the Confederacy abolishes slavery piecemeal in the 1880s (presumably to negate the risk of a US-backed slave revolt plunging the country into its own civil war), but they're still having to periodically deploy the army to put down Unionist uprisings into the 20th Century.

>>18092167

The plantation is the containment zone for blacks

>>18092132 (OP)
incoming

>>18097312

holy based