Thread 18100495

He is a hero responsible for reclaiming the Slavic cities of Gdansk and Kaliningrad

>nonslavs rule Russia
>builds Tsarist and Soviet empires
>Russia goes back to slavrule
>loses gains in ww2
>loses Balts
>loses Finland
>loses Kiev
what does this course of events imply

>>18100495 (OP)
Stalin doesn’t get enough credit for seeing the Soviet Union through alot of its industrializations and Great War. But his repressions were terrible.

However good you think Stalin handled WW2, Trotsky would’ve done a much better job.

>>18100495 (OP)
VGH . . Slavic bolshevism is so powerful

He should have deported all germanics and turned east germany into a sorb state

>>18100495 (OP)
Hopefully someday Berlin and London are reclaimed into the Slavic empire too

>>18100495 (OP)
>Stalin was needed for muh industry

Russia was already industrialising before 17

Thread over. I have destroyed the OP's argument.

>>18100507
It's Kyiv, orc.

>>18101785
It was Kiev at the time it was lost
Kyiv will be lucky if it lasts longer than Petrograd

>>18101781
>Russia was already industrialising
Just like Nigeria is
>getting richer
all the time but i'm sure you wouldn't want to live there

>>18101835
Cope and seethe. Industrialising in every way, also exported wheat across the world

>>18100521
>However good you think Stalin handled WW2, Trotsky would’ve done a much better job.
Trotsky literally wanted the Soviets to surrender to the Nazis lmao.
>"A military defeat threatens the social basis of the Soviet Union for the same reason that these bases require in peaceful times a bureaucracy and a monopoly of foreign trade – that is, because of their weakness. Can we, however, expect that the Soviet Union will come out of the coming great war without defeat? To this frankly posed question, we will answer as frankly: If the war should remain only a war, the defeat of the Soviet Union would be inevitable. In a technical, economic, and military sense, imperialism in incomparably more strong. If it is not paralyzed by revolution in the West, imperialism will sweep away the regime which issued from the October revolution.
>Fascism is the most organized form of capitalism, it will triumph and seize Europe and stifle us. It is better therefore to come to terms with it'"

>>18101781
>Russia was already industrialising before 17
Russia was a hell hole back then. Funny how Russia became a super power after Stalin took over.

>>18101911
To be fair - he wrote that in exile, basically wishing the worst for the man who banished him and in his eyes ruined the country. It’s doubtful he would just roll over if invaded, and he also didn’t suppose the allies would join the side of the soviets

>>18100495 (OP)
>implying Stalin gave a fuck about slav wewuzzery
lmao

>>18100521
Trotsky literally couldn’t run a McDonald’s if he wanted to

>>18100521
Stalin didnt industrialize the USSR, the USSR never once surpassed had more factories of native origin compared to those of foreign origin.
Their industrialization was done by Dodge, Ford, Studebaker, and JP Morgan.
the repressions are fake bro.

>>18104005
Kotkin has a funny line
>To know Trotsky, was to hate Trotsky
The idea that Trotsky could command the absolute loyalty of underlings the way Stalin ended up doing, is laughable.
>>18105344
They did industrialize. They just did it by carbon copying Gary, Indiana with foreign specialists standing over their shoulders.

>nooo you can't whitewash hitler, he is pure evil
>Stalin? Oh he's based and did nothing wrong
This is you, /his/

>>18100507
Stalin was Georgian and the royal dynasty that ruled before Lenin was German but is there any connection between these 2 peoples? For me it's the wars of Marcus Aurelius the Roman Empire which included Georgia had a tough time fighting Germans while everyone else was already defeated many decades earlier

He restored DIGNITY and HONOR to the Kremlin.

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>>18105480
The Holocaust was Soviet propaganda because just like Holodomor it was the communists who did it not Germans who like their ancestors the Teutonic knights were too noble for being responsible for such despicable war crimes
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>>18105400
Stalin saved the Russian people while Hitler tried to genocide them

>>18106167
>Stalin saved the Russian people while Hitler tried to genocide them
Hitler saved europe from communism

>>18106290
Communism saved Europe from Nazism

>>18106298
GDR collapsed. Communists were rejected. No longer exist. Nationalists are everywhere.

>>18106313
Putin is rebuilding the USSR. Cope