Thread 18114094

What language did Adam and Eve speak?

>>18114094 (OP)
Angelican, obviously.

>>18114094 (OP)
The story was written in hebrew wasn't it?

Telepathy

Edenic, the common tongue from which all human languages are derived, it ceased to be spoken after they were divided at Babel

>>18114094 (OP)
American English of the early 19th Century

English. Have you ever read the KJV?

>>18114203
That's English?

>>18114153
It says a lot how full of themselves Jews are that they started claiming Adam spoke Hebrew. It's like saying everything Jesus said must have been in Greek, because the Gospels were written in Greek.

>>18114094 (OP)
Eve was an feminist, btw

>>18114219
The whole idea of an omnipotent God is just Jews masturbating themselves. Pathetic to take it seriously as a goy

>>18114094 (OP)
Albanian.

Try taking all the languages in the world today, remove the developments over time, and combine them seamlessly without loss of meaning or fidelity.
Something like that.
Multiple verb subject object orders, tenses that could be unknown to us now, context dependent syntax, next level comprehensive vocabulary.
It's hard to imagine.

>>18114132
Hebrew in the form known to antiquity didn't exist before the division of tongues.

>>18114219
Yeah, it's cringe that they unironically pretend this.
Sure God divided the tongues of every nation, BUT NOT OUR LANGUAGE DEFINITELY NOT. It's literally perfect btw and there's no evidence at all it ever changed. Whatever you do dont look up how the Hebrew letters were pronounced 2000 ybp and find the source material containing the spelling of their full proper names.

>>18114331
Ok tranny.

>>18114531
>Hebrew in the form known to antiquity didn't exist before the division of tongues.
OK but only one of those things is real.

>18114555
You can go post your bait back on r*ddit

>>18114094 (OP)
Two fictional characters.
>>18114219
That's because they invented the whole story of Adam and Eve. Of course they also clai that they spoke hebrew and that hebrew is the language of God. Muslims claim the same with arabic.
>>18114531
>Sure God divided the tongues of every nation
Also a fictional story. Dialects and differen languages exist since the days of Homo Erectus at least.

>>18114094 (OP)
God's own language, HolyC

>>18115079
>Dialects and differen languages exist since the days of Homo Erectus at least.
Cool baseless speculation with no evidence whatsoever you got there.
Yes the famous monkey man OOOH AAAAH EEEEK *chest thumping noises* dialect so famously attested in the fossilized stick scratches in ancient mud. Riveting.

This is a thread about a bible story and it's linguistic implications if true.
In that context, I can work under the assumption that it happened without necessarily accepting that it really did.
It's called entertaining an idea without accepting it, Socrates said this is the mark of a mature intellect. Something you will never have.

I do not care if bible stories trigger your middle school level fedora autism.
Literally stop liking things I don't like, the reply.
Fuck off.

>>18114094 (OP)
Genesis contains several puns that only work in Hebrew, so presumably Hebrew.

>>18114531
>Try taking all the languages in the world today, remove the developments over time, and combine them seamlessly without loss of meaning or fidelity.
So reconstruct Proto-World? People have been trying to do that for a while now.
>Whatever you do dont look up how the Hebrew letters were pronounced 2000 ybp
I don't think anyone denies that Hebrew sounded different 2000 years ago than it does now.

>>18114094 (OP)
Sumerian probably

There's more evidence for the historical existence of skiapodes than Adam and Eve.

>>18114094 (OP)
they didn't speak in any language because they didn't exist.

>>18114537
literally the very exact opposite is also true. christcucks and jews have been saying if everyone believes in rabbi jesus and torah the kingdom of god will get established and yet the most christian period in history is called the dark ages because it's literally hell compared to the antiquity as people are burning 12 year old 15 year old girls claiming they were witches, nobody's writing great works, plays or poems etc, nobody's doing science, nobody's discovering things, in fact they are now denying the shape of the earth, magnificent statues are being destroyed, temples are being destroyed, people like Hypatia are being lynched in streets murdered, torn to pieces, limbs are carried around the town and set on fire by these semitic beasts for not worshiping a semitic rabbi. there are self starving "saints" who are living on top of pillars literally in their own shit and piss and so on

>>18115521
>people are burning 12 year old 15 year old girls claiming they were witches
A nitpick, but I believe that was mostly a Late Medieval/Renaissance phenomenon.
>in fact they are now denying the shape of the earth
Pretty sure we've known the Earth was round since the ancient Greeks.

>>18115528
You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about
>A nitpick, but I believe that was mostly a Late Medieval/Renaissance phenomenon.
completely false. schizophrenic witch hunts became a thing as soon as constantine and his judeochristian friends took over the empire since 4th century.
Hypatia is 4th century, Synods of Elvira and Ancyra are 4th century, Augustine of hippo is 4th century, Penthekte synod is 6th century, Aethelstan is 10th century, Olaf is 11th and i could go on. Christianity had caused this craze and hysteria that women were inherently evil because it was eve who first ate from the apple and convinced adam to eat from the tree. Even Joan of arc was accused of witch craft albeit was burnt at the stake at the age of 19 mainly for heresy rather than witchcraft and she was a devout christcuck.
You're also a braindead illiterate normie retard who doesn't even know renaissance was the secularization era and precisely when the witch hunts stopped

>>18115528
>Pretty sure we've known the Earth was round since the ancient Greeks.
christians refused that and actually put to death anyone who said otherwise but of course you don't even know that

>>18115645
>>Pretty sure we've known the Earth was round since the ancient Greeks.
>christians... put to death anyone who said otherwise
Certified midwit take.

Christians put people to death for heresy. The shape of the Earth was never dogma and nobody was put to death for merely saying it was round.

>>18114094 (OP)
Probably Ancient Egyptian.

>>18115443
Examples?

>>18114094 (OP)
Proto-Aryan

>>18115645
>Christianity had caused this craze and hysteria that women were inherently evil because it was eve who first ate from the apple and convinced adam to eat from the tree.
The pagan Romans were plenty sexist, though it manifested in slightly different ways.

>>18115882
Look up the Wikisource Bible translation and look at the footnotes.

if they lived in paradise they probably had not a language, no need to communicate dangers, needs or aflictions

>>18114094 (OP)
>t. Frederick II

>>18114094 (OP)
american english

>>18114537
And this is said by Christians who went with their children to watch the executions that took place right in the center of the city on the square.

>>18117033
p,s, >schizophrenics execute heretics, sorcerers, witches, and apostates
>literally dishonor the name of Jesus
>his actions?
>performing useless magic tricks (you can literally find documented miracles during mass executions for religious reasons)
Is this normal? Let me remind you that Mary, in the Fattis Apparitions, speaks of sacrifices, self-sacrifice, and says that this is God's will. This is very suspicious.

Also, the Book of Revelation mentions the HARVEST several times.

>>18115443
Genesis wasn't written by Adam and Eve. It was written by Moses, who knew Hebrew.
That's why it has Hebrew puns, not because Adam and Even spoke Hebrew.

>>18118206
So it's not actually an accurate accounting of the creation of the world?

>>18114132
>hebrew
They copied the story, like they copied all their stories

>>18114094 (OP)
There's no way of knowing, all languages were changed and mixed up at the Tower of Babel.

>>18118227
Obviously, yeah. It's allegorical. That's why there's two different creation stories right next to each other. People figured this out millennia ago.

>>18114153
more Jewish fairytales, ay dios mio

>>18114537
i will defend Cattelan's Banana forever
the fact that it's from years ago and still gets shared and causes seethe really goes to show how affective it was

>>18114537
pedo pageants are usually run by bible thumpers

>>18114537
demon tranny makes me laugh so hard every time

>>18114537
>banana above black girl
I wonder if it was intentional. She even looks like a monkey wanting or thinking about the banana.

>>18115244
>Yes the famous monkey man OOOH AAAAH EEEEK *chest thumping noises* dialect so famously attested in the fossilized stick scratches in ancient mud. Riveting.
I don't know if Homo Erectus could speak or not. From what I know paleontologists found out that neanderthals very likely had languages.
You seem triggered by that. Do you deny evolution or what creationists often call macroevolution?

>This is a thread about a bible story and it's linguistic implications if true.
In that context, I can work under the assumption that it happened without necessarily accepting that it really did.
It's called entertaining an idea without accepting it, Socrates said this is the mark of a mature intellect. Something you will never have.

There is a difference between trying to argue under the assumption that it was true and being spammed every day by christian schizophrenia on this board.

>I do not care if bible stories trigger your middle school level fedora autism.

They don't trigger any autism in me. I treat them like I treat greek mythology. What triggers me are the christian schizos or worse muslim schizos on /his/ or other boards.

>>18114094 (OP)
Serbian

>>18114537
>cuties
The bible condemns sex outside of marriage but not pedophilia neither do judaism (3 year old child can be raped in the talmud) or islam (9 year old bride).
I say this to every christian. Your anti-pedophilia morals don't come from christianity. They came from the enlightenment era which at least the hardcore e-christians hate.

>>18120058
You bring up Talmud to Christians...?

>>18120058
lolicon spotted

>>18119998
Disgraceful and shameful.

>>18120071
That's a self-own.

>>18115645
>christians refused that and actually put to death anyone who said otherwise
You lose, your opinion is disqualified.

>>18119998
They aren't different.
They are two different perspectives on the same creation.

Genesis 1 is from God's perspective, Genesis 2 is from Adam's.

>>18118227
Someone else replied to you without saying NTA.
Yes it is accurate.
You don't have to be an eyewitness to write down an accurate account, journalists do this regularly.
Adam didn't write Genesis, Moses did. He wrote it in Hebrew because that was his people's language, not Adam's.

>>18120050
>Neanderthals had languages.
>You seem triggered by that.

Of course they did. But there is no proof.
Things can be true that are impossible to prove. A lot of the time they're even obviously true, and yet cannot be definitively proven.

>being spammed every day by christian schizophrenia on this board
>treat them like I treat greek mythology
The only spamming going on is the fedora brigade constantly posting bait threads.
You absolutely do not treat these subjects the same.
The open hostility on display for Christianity in particular proves this.

>>18114207
Verily

>>18114094 (OP)
Atlantian. That was the location of the fall, after all.

>>18120064
>>18120069
Okay, but what verse in the Bible forbids a man from marrying and having sex with a just-pubescent girl?

>>18120133
How is it an accurate account if he described people making puns that they couldn't have made because they only worked in Hebrew?

>>18120931
1. How do you know they didn't work in the Edenic language? 2. The purpose of the puns is not to impute them directly to the people at the time but to translate the names and meanings which were held in the unknown Edenic language. As anyone who knows how translation works is aware, literal 1-to-1 translation is not the only kind which is "accurate", and some times would not be accurate at all. So it can be both different and accurate.

>>18120936
You mean the dialogue in Genesis is a dynamic-equivalence rendering from Edenic to Hebrew?

>>18120940
Can you prove it isn't?

>>18120942
That's not how burden of proof works.

>>18120943
My argument is not that it was a dynamic equivalence but that it could be, the burden of proof is on you to prove it couldn't be because you're the one making a big deal about things that only work in Hebrew. If you fail to disprove this it wouldn't mean it was a dynamic equivalence translation, it would mean your argument was arbitrary.

>>18120951
Isn't it being a dynamic equivalence with the actual words having been lost to time an argument against the perfect infallibility of the Bible as God's word?

>>18121021
Only if you think a dynamic equivalence is automatically a mistranslation.

>>18121045
Not that it's a mistranslation, but that it's not what they actually said. Why do you think it's so improbable that one of the builders had his language left untouched? (Or perhaps Eber refused to participate in the building, as Muslim scholars have suggested.)

>>18121049
>Eber refused to participate in the building, as Muslim scholars have suggested.)
Where does the tower of Babel appear in the quran?

>>18121049
>Not that it's a mistranslation, but that it's not what they actually said
That's basically a distinction without a difference. What they actually said was in a language other than what Genesis was written in, so insofar as it is translation it must be "not what they said" no matter what. If you mean that it misrepresents them, then that's the same as a mistranslation. Biblical inerrancy means that everything the bible says is true, it doesn't mean the bible is an mp3 recording.
>Why do you think it's so improbable that one of the builders had his language left untouched? (Or perhaps Eber refused to participate in the building, as Muslim scholars have suggested.)
Because that contradicts the text.

>>18121058
>The 13th-century Muslim historian Abu al-Fida relates a story noting that the patriarch Eber, the great-grandson of Shem, refused to help with the building of the Tower of Babel. As a result, his language was not confused when the tower was abandoned. He and his family alone retained the original Adamic language, which he identified as Hebrew, a language named after ʿEber.[9]

>>18121062
If you confuse the language of all humanity, the one person who's left speaking the same language won't really be any better off, will he?

>>18121093
I asked about the story of Babel in the quran. It doesn't seem to be there. Of course later islamic scholars were also heavily influenced by christians and jews and adopted stories of them that weren't in the quran.

>>18114537
How do we know these arent psyops themselves? I have never seen any of this activity or rhetoric in real life.
>n-no anon I saw it all with my own eyes!
Yea ok Agent Lumi I am convinced

Anyway as long as they keep you all fighting each other and switching up roles and themes between elections, the show goes on as you all detest it along the way, one way or another. Doesnt matter what country. You are all in the same boat and dont know it.

>>18114151
edenic is a metaphor for grunting like a cave man before we made up a bunch of bullshit

>>18114094 (OP)
Archaic Khoisan

>>18114094 (OP)
Some African clicking shit probably