Thread 18124937

Why did Hitler start a two-front war that was impossible to win? Was he just retarded?
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>>18124937 (OP)
His intelligence suggested the soviet army was weak enough to get blitzkrieg'd and would get its shit pushed in, and they were almost correct.

The thing is though, they were pretty fucked no matter what. Even if they had won in the east, imagine trying to occupy all that russian shithole land and deal with local resistance groups. They'd never have been able to do that.

So in the end the regime was just coping. They continued to cope right until Berlin itself was getting invaded.

Depending on how you count it, it was 4 or more fronts by the time the Allies were invading Germany. Western Front, Italy, Eastern Front and the Atlantic.

>>18124950
Also Norway freeze temperatures foreshadowed Germans logistic war issues

If you dispassoinately map all of Hitler's big decisions it's very hard to assign him rational and informed motives.
On some level he really did "seem" to believe that there was some magical quality of German soldiers that made up the deficits they faced in numbers and gear and food and so forth.
What's worse, for the first half of his saga, it seemed to be true - England was queasy about the Versailles arrangement from the start and handed him appeasement after appeasement, and in the middle his armies outperformed every opposing military in the field.
It must have been obvious to SOMEONE that invading Russia was the biggest, longest, nastiest possible option with an uncertain outcome at high cost. But not the guy in charge.

>>18124937 (OP)
Not to sound like a liberal, but Nazism was genuinely a delusional almost religious worldview that led to terrible decision-making, especially in the later half of the war.

German technological superiority early on created and justified notions of German dominance and made them feel invincible. They viewed the Americans as "a nation of shoemakers" and the Soviets as an ass-backward dysfunctional state of human animals held together by a civilized Caucasian strongman that would fall apart in a single strike.

Honestly Hitler's overarching command that historiography blames for losing on the Eastern Front actually led to a lot of success early on, especially in France. He wasn't stupid like many post-WW2 Wehrmacht generals tried to paint him as, but he certainly began to go off his rocker by the end. It was just fundamentally Nazi Germany's goals of dominating the East and underestimating the USSR that led to its inevitable defeat.

>>18124937 (OP)
See Schlieffenplan.

>>18124937 (OP)
>Was he just retarded?
Of course not

>>18124937 (OP)
just look at all these quotes of hitler bragging how much he wants a second world war

>>18124937 (OP)
You still think it was a war?

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>>18125047
Bingo.
Blindly right is retarded. Added to the list of fuckers dumb enough to invade Russia like this

>>18125345
It was a war and it's still going on in a low-intensity form.
Stalingrad was just the beginning

>>18124937 (OP)
his biggest mistake was allying with shitaly and mongolpan, the two worst countries filled with non-whites, one cant even beat ethiopia and greece, the other causes america to join the war
if he didnt ally with those two he would have won
allies only won because of america, if they didnt give supplies to britain and ussr those two shitholes would have been destroyed right near the end of the war

>>18124950
Hitler's plan was to bait the entire Red Army to the border then surround it all at once and eliminate it.
Stalin knew the tactic though so didn't send the Red Army to the border like many of the generals wanted.

>>18124950
Worse, he had a historical example. The Kaiserrech DID win in the east and they still got their shit pushed in.

>>18127079
yea you right the dozens of divisions and literal armies overwhelmed and taking over 3 MILLION prisoners in 1941 (the same size of the german force invading them) there were just a little forward recon group

>>18127122
Soviets had 2,7 million soldiers on the border so only about 50% of their total force not counting 14 million reservists