Thread 18135975

The Essenes had it right.

>>18135975 (OP)
there were no real "Essenes" in real History. They're literally fake and ghey along most of the rest of the """DSS""".

>>18136123
Josephus and Philo both talk about them.

>>18136519
Yet, none of the actual Jews(tm) do, and there is ZERO material evidence and Jo and Phil, "talk about" a lot of dumb shit, and this is proof of it, Moshe.

NEXT!

I win.

>>18136704
>none of the actual Jews(tm) do
What are you even talking about? Moreover, do you think Philo and Josephus were just making stuff up?

>>18136749
To be fair most (((historians))) today will randomly claim this or that historical figure was lying for no reason because of divinations in their dreams

>>18136749
There is ZERO archaeological proof, or mention of the "Esseenes" by any contemporary Jews. The one tiny "ruin" we have was a staged single room with some notes in jars. Absolutely no signs of daily living, or any sort of """Community""". Alexandria is kind of far away too, isn't it?

As a Jew, you're already hideously ugly and inbred beyond belief. Nothing you can do about that, but you must at least attempt to be educated and honest. I know, it hurts. It goes against every fiber of your being, but it really is best. It really is ;>)

>>18136519
I'm beginning to think they're both ghost written by the same author. You know their Greek is anomalous in the same ways.

>>18138168
>There is ZERO archaeological proof, or mention of the "Esseenes" by any contemporary Jews
Theres no mention of anything. We dont have any aramaic documents from the time from jews. Only greek jews in the diaspora

>>18136764
You should be critical when aproaching ancient texts (modern ones too I suppose) but why would both of them just lie about this ascetic jewish sect?
>>18138168
>ZERO archaeological proof
We wouldn't expect any, but we have the Qumran community lol.
>or mention of the "Esseenes" by any contemporary Jews
Josephus and Philo are both contemporary.
>Alexandria is kind of far away too, isn't it?
Josephus lived in Judea and Philo travelled a lot.
>As a Jew, you're already hideously ugly and inbred beyond belief
Lmao.
>>18138172
Both were in contact with Roman authorities and the were well known during their life-times.
I don't know exactly why you're positing mass-conspiracy in order to explain mentions of a 2nd temple jewish sect, but it seems like their existence bothers you for some reason.

>>18138225
Another EPIC FAIL!

Yeah, lots of Jewish History(tm) is so real there's no archaeological evidence for it, is there? You could say about the recent past, as well.

Many people are "contemporaries" with many other peoples. So what? We also have ZERO proof of this "Josephus" outside of himself too ;) Lets not even get into the veracity of his own lies and propaganda.

Lots of people lived in Judea, yet the "Essenes" are absent from any form of unbiased real history and again, no physical evidence of any sort of incel "Community" of any kind any where ever. None.

Lots of people travel a lot. So what?


You're really, really, really pathetic.


I win!

>>18138173

The Essenes are so well-documented historically that the people who wrote "Jesus and the Dead Sea Scrolls" and "Jesus Christ and the Jewish Roots of the Eucharist" proved the disciples spent Passover with them from their calendar calculations and inferred John the Baptist was raised by them from among other things his dietary restrictions.

>>18138417
You're probably trolling at this point, but if you think jewish historians aren't reliable we also have Pliny the younger comment on them.

>>18138225
>the were well known during their life-times
Cited by who?

>2nd temple jewish
Hate to break it to you, but you've been lied to. It's not your fault but you can do better.

>>18136704
>>18136123
Yes, because Essenes weren't Jews. Next question?

>>18138523
So, no physical evidence of anything. Got it ;)

>>18139310
So, no physical evidence of anything. Got it.

Anyone can write anything, but that doesn't make it so. (see: the entire Old and New Testaments. Both 100% bullshit too!)


I win!