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Anonymous No.18144360 [Report] >>18144390 >>18144457
Do possible worlds exist? Do modalities imply they are real?
Anonymous No.18144390 [Report]
>>18144360 (OP)
If God is real (and he is) then the only "possible worlds" are ones that he creates so the only"possible worlds" are ones where he's abusing me worse than he already is (as he's already made explicitly clear, it's impossible for a world that's good for me to exist, only world that are bad for me)
Anonymous No.18144457 [Report] >>18144577
>>18144360 (OP)
Probably not but the topography of the physical universe at least begs the question, namely, there are huge low-energy areas where nothing seems to change for billions of years and there are also high-energy areas where billions of changes happen every day. A fundamentally causal and predestined universe sees no distinction between the two, and that may be. However the prima facie evidence seems to suggest these large masses and energy concentrations are part of the chain reaction, visible results AND causes. That would mean we're in a position to affect change at least on a perceptible level. And that would mean several possible futures exist. Suppose the world moves toward an expected outcome with momentum, tiny events can happen at random without affecting it, but trillions of such events continuously produces a randomizing effect on the whole. That process could be what we're witnessing, it could be what existence "is", the moment of defining the future.

Psychic phenomena and ghosts are thought to be errors in the human predictive faculty, where something that could exist doesn't exist. What if they're errors in the universe? Echoes of the possible world that shed off like dead skin. That would explain why you can't use them to change the momentum of the larger universe, they're tiny flakes and it is massive. If there's any leeway in causality at all, the universe is one big future predicting machine that's constantly adjusting.
Anonymous No.18144577 [Report]
>>18144457
The concept of a gravity well or even an apex predator is a large smooth space where energy rolls toward a locus and accumulates into a single concentrated reaction, of greater energy and complexity than the surrounding space. The chaotic early universe drifted into order, the planets are like tigers or killers marking their territory and growing larger to compete. The universe probably formed that way. I'm not sure how this all relates to humans except we've altered the process by tapping huge energy stores to make more complexity. Scientists with a universal perspective say we're not really changing anything because we can't go 1MY into the future or see the whole universe, but I feel those are unreasonable expectations. It's easy to imagine a future where people change the earth and solar system, but that also doesn't have to happen. People can decide to conduct large scale biowarfare and reduce or eliminate the population. In short, humanity is in the drivers seat.