Thread 18144717

you're a meaningless bag of meat controlled by electrical signals and nothing matters so it's ok if you firebomb a preschool and kill everyone inside since they're just biomass

>>18144717 (OP)
>be you
>think atheism means nothing matters
Absolute cringe. Morality isn't magic, it is an asshole test. You don't need sky daddy to know that causing suffering is bad. Empathy.exe is pre-installed in functioning humans. Firebombing a preschool is a permanent solution to a temporary emotional state. Go outside and touch grass, you fucking edgelord.

>>18144717 (OP)
that’s materialist nihilism you’re thinking of not just atheism

>>18144717 (OP)
>you're a meaningless bag of meat controlled by electrical signals and nothing matters so it's ok if you firebomb a preschool and kill everyone inside since they're just biomass
You are simply projecting how you would feel onto others if you didn't lie to yourself. It's nobody else's problem but your own.

>>18144717 (OP)
die tranimefag

>>18144717 (OP)
The life of a Christian must be depressing. You're just a meaningless bag of meat controlled by a ghost and nothing in this earthly life matters it's ok if you firebomb a preschool and kill everyone inside since the kids will go to heaven anway and so will you if you repent.

>>18144717 (OP)
>I'm superior
beware, son. spiritual pride is the worst pride

>>18144717 (OP)
All that but not the firebomb stuff because I believe in other people feeling pain. Believing in god or not is not the right word to describe that.

It might seem depressing at first but you eventually get over the hump.

Life is alright if you do the whole family thing. Not because of "muh descendants" but because it brings you joy in the current life.

>>18144774
SAAR

What's with Indian people and anti-Christian behavior recently like >>18144774
The Indian dudes I knew were super chill and respected all religions.

>>18144847
most likely because people who post online are incels with sociopathic beliefs just like most e-Christians have nothing in common with IRL Christians who are generally the most basic normies in the South and Midwest who thank Jesus for helping them win a football game.

>>18144717 (OP)
>you're a meaningless bag of meat controlled by electrical signals
Not the only positions atheists can have on the subject.
> and nothing matters
Most atheists disagree, though.
>it's ok if you firebomb a preschool and kill everyone inside since they're just biomass
They would also disagree. And for the record, the anti-realist position is that there is neither Right or Wrong. So technically it's not 'ok' to bomb a preschool but it also is not 'not ok'. It just is.
Serious atheists, I mean, not teenagers trying to understand tthemselves and bouncing through several worldviews a year.

And to be honest, even if you do believe in those things life is not really depressing.
Why do you need to be a meaningful ensouled being? Why do things have to matter?

>>18144875
postion*

>>18144732
Why is causing suffering "bad"?

>>18144717 (OP)
With most abrahamic religion it seems that man's purpose to be the slave of God although there are some exceptions like some jews believe their God serves the Jews with one talmudic story about rabbis winning a debate against God and in islam it seems that Allah is Muhammad's servant, Allah being the blue Robbin Williams Genie to Muhammad's Ali.

as opposed to religion where breaking one really arbitrary rule is enough to get you sent to some eternal torture dimension

>>18145515
Mythic Dawn likes it that way.

>>18144870
>except me, I'm the chosen one!

>>18144717 (OP)
Unironically it's Jung who's pushing me toward religiosity. His work 'The Undiscovered Self' (I don't know what the original non-English title was, speaks about the authoritarian state and 'creed'-like religion, and highlighted how one can be freed from the trappings of these institutions by faith and the acknowldgement of an authority 'beyond' the state or church.
Very compelling, just a shame that I'm not big on Christianity.

>>18146977
Religiosity is from the state, as they fund and maintain temples and saints thru history. You want spirituality and alternative one possibly.

>>18147024
>is from the State
Depends where and when I think. Sometimes tolerated, sometimes mutual benefit, sometimes at odds.
I thought back on my post after posting it and I think you're right in part, what I'm after is spirtuality. My life philosophy is much aligned with the little I know of mahayana buddhist and gnostic (christian gnositc) teachings. However I would still insist on Religosity as a way of abiding by hierarchy in a person's life that isn't STATE GOOD, or CREED GOOD. Though I admit it may be a semanitc difference as I'm talking about religion as a personal connection to god and deriving personal satisfaction(?) resilience(?) from it. The bibilical phrase about the 'armour of God' comes to mind.
I am also concerned about the replacing of the Church with the State, as the personal and societal benefits from having the religion as authority out-weigh that of the state when the state is the ultimate authority. (this is a generalisation, as you could have somewhat benefical authoritarian states, and you could have somewhat corrupt and overly-exploititiave religious institutions.

On a personal level, I am happy to pursue knowledge in the extra-mundane (as Jung puts it) however I wouldn't mind there having been something that replaced religion other than the state (I am a bong for refernce)
That leads to the concern I mentioned about community wellbeing. The welfare of the individual and the society is important to me, and can not be provided by the state (in it's current form) which is why we see the nationalist/traditionalist leaning young people as well as those who seek out religion.
I would like for a popular, benificent state and/or religion. But I don't think it will happen in my part of the world.
Sorry for long post, I was reading and thinking about this stuff on a long travelling day and wanted to talk about it.

>>18144717 (OP)
>no family
>no love
>no community
>no friends
>just le jewish man in sky
>final destination

>>18147035
Oh, so you believe in the light.
I believe in Hell and Darkness.
See, I'm atheist, I'm also a gnostic.
We are Hell. We're a bunch of demons, which practice the Dark gnosis of Hell, which turns you into a Demon God.
We don't believe in a venevolent saving loving father, but in Hell. The monstrosity of life, it's accidents, happenings, genetic deformities and unspeakable horrors that slip through dimensional cracks (and don't give me that stare, I killed 2).
But there's also an additional malus, a controlling system of kings, presidents, politicians, religious temples, religions, etc. So you're well fucked on your way to oblivion.
So we become demons, and killed Demiurgos, we're in wait now, hoping for Hell (yes, we love the prospect of going to Hell, home).
I can see why'd you reject the world, we just said, fuck it, all of that is very control freak, we'll try our stuff.

Sorry for the diatribe, it's so you know where I'm from.

>life of a christian

>you are filthy corrupt sinful piece of garbage that deserves to burn for eternity unless you keep groveling to this rabbi

>>18147164
Life of an Indian

>live in filth
>rape your own sister
>worship an elephant man with 50 arms
>when you die have your corpse thrown in a filthy diseased river

>>18147151
I'm down with the whole 'we're in hell' thing but that's not a way of selling it. Bit too much shadow the hedgehog.
To be respectul though I'll pick up what you're putting down, so you could say it's a very Calvinist view on the concept of Grace.. just that we're the ones without it? Cool if you expand on it a bit more for me.
Or do we (or some) have the 'spark' for gnosis, the divine light, wereas some (filthy jews and people who cut me off on the road) are devoid of grace and incapable of percieving or escalating to a higher state of mind / transendent / apotheosis / brahman etc.
OR is it all just relativism niggerdry where there are no values so the rapemurderbeheadingmutilation of children is (((permissible)))

I'm disappointed there's not a single bit of scripture in this thread. People need to hear the word.

Matthew 7:24-27 ESV
“Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.”

Atheists have nothing to back up what they believe. An atheist can't even prove he is real or that his thoughts are his own, and so he is on the sand.

Romans 1:18-20 NIV
"The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse."

Atheists know God exists, yet suppress the truth because they love their sin. They live in lies and get overcome with anger when someone reminds them we are all guilty of sin and therefore death. Please repent and seek Christ, he died for you.

>>18144717 (OP)
>the life of an atheist must be depressing
Not necessarily. I find the theological worldview more depressing.

>you're a meaningless bag of meat controlled by electrical signals
Correct.

>and nothing matters
Incorrect.

>so it's ok if you firebomb a preschool and kill everyone inside since they're just biomass
And if you're religious, it's okay because Allah told you they were infidels or Christ redeemed your sins anyway, etc. etc. whatever bullshit cope you wanna come up with for being a nigger.