Thread 7578339 - /ic/ [Archived: 1015 hours ago]

Anonymous
5/20/2025, 10:34:15 PM No.7578339
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>Calarts graduate who received the heighest possible award there telling people not to go to art school
Good advice or no?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uLA72brluc
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Anonymous
5/20/2025, 10:40:39 PM No.7578342
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>>7578339 (OP)
why are we trusting the opinions of people who's art looks like this
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Anonymous
5/20/2025, 10:43:13 PM No.7578345
>>7578342
I don't know, seems like that makes his advice more valid
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Anonymous
5/20/2025, 10:43:32 PM No.7578346
>>7578345
thats not a he
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Anonymous
5/20/2025, 10:46:52 PM No.7578349
>>7578346
Oh shit I heckin' misgendered someone presenting themselves androgynously how will I ever recover
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Anonymous
5/20/2025, 10:47:28 PM No.7578351
>>7578349
you dont have any clue what youre talking about dont you?
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Anonymous
5/20/2025, 10:48:49 PM No.7578354
>>7578342
CalArts animation students are taught to draw like this on purpose which is lowkey evil to me desu
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Anonymous
5/20/2025, 10:50:36 PM No.7578356
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At least don't go to calarts. Their stats are fucking embarassing, barely a third of their students get an art job, those who do have to live in LA on 30k a year, and tuition alone is 150k.

If a regular university had those numbers they'd burn the place to the ground, what the fuck is this.
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Anonymous
5/20/2025, 10:51:43 PM No.7578358
>>7578339 (OP)
>telling people not to go to art school
zhe/zir is telling people specifically not to go to calarts because it's an overpriced daycare full of snobby little rich shits who will blacklist you once you graduate if they don't like you which honestly explains the current state of western animation quite well
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Anonymous
5/20/2025, 10:54:35 PM No.7578362
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Anonymous
5/20/2025, 10:55:09 PM No.7578363
>>7578356
>>7578358
>avoid calarts
Noted. What about RISD, SAIC, SCAD, Pratt, etc then?
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Anonymous
5/20/2025, 11:02:24 PM No.7578367
>>7578356
My theory is it's run by chicoms to pump out losers who are in contact with higher society. Then the people who succeed have tons of struggling friends and they act as rabble rousers by using their art for activism because "my poor friends can't get a job life is so hard we need xyz solution", furthering division.
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Anonymous
5/20/2025, 11:05:26 PM No.7578372
>>7578362
She writes like someone who has BPD.
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Anonymous
5/20/2025, 11:15:45 PM No.7578377
strange world
strange world
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she said she quit disney but i'm pretty sure she got fired because the stuff she worked on bombed terribly.
Anonymous
5/20/2025, 11:31:43 PM No.7578392
>>7578339 (OP)
d/ic/ks told me everything can be learned online, only reason to go to an art collage is for the networking, even then, you can do well on your own if you got the skills.
Anonymous
5/20/2025, 11:48:51 PM No.7578422
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>>7578362
Based! MIGA!
Anonymous
5/20/2025, 11:57:18 PM No.7578439
whats this zoomer brainrot content where a woman or tranny acts like your parent but then just gives mostly retarded or common advice.
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 12:10:37 AM No.7578467
>>7578363
even worse lol. 0% employment rate after graduation
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 12:17:43 AM No.7578479
>>7578342
I would fuck the blonde one.
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 12:18:44 AM No.7578481
>>7578356
>barely a third of their students get an art job
That's like 10x more than most other art schools.
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 12:20:25 AM No.7578484
>>7578356
>barely a third of their students get an art job
I think those are good stats, I think only something like 10% of art graduates actually work in art overall.
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 12:29:50 AM No.7578497
>>7578439
Nigga this is only common advice on here. There are dozens if rich fucks on YouTube who went to art school and when they inevitably make a video about whether it's a scam or not they go "Well I hah a great time so I dunno." This vid isn't made for fucks like you who wlready know it's for the young fucks who dont.
Like look at this dumb bitch
https://youtu.be/fD9Ov0xlLqU?si=Vt4F5ziYBfe70o1A
This old hag gives a basic bitch response like "Oh its nuanced so I dunno do your research" and doesn't recognize the world around her and the struggles newfags have to go through right now in the art field in terms of work.
Then you got this fucking faggot https://youtu.be/yV_lgQdMjfw?si=GoGK0ERpgM9umzhK
who is telling his young impressionable audience "The goal of art school isn't to teach you art" but then goes on and on about "Art school is so cool the experience that I got blah blah blah" like dude you gave away the game why are you singing praises about art school if the goal isn't to get better at the thing you want to get better at? That's what matters to the young kid your giving advice too.
Meanwhile the bitch in the OP is like "No don't fucking go you don't need it and if your a still a crazy determined as fuck person who thinks their GMI then just move to LA cause living in this God forsaken city is still cheaper then CalArts"
She gives no ambiguity and doesn't muddle in her overall positive experience with the reality of the situation. It's a yes or no question and unlike most fucks the bitch says "No" and more people need to get that in their head.Im all for the honesty, the kids need it.
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 12:31:07 AM No.7578498
>>7578484
>>7578481
How does that look post-ai?
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 12:38:58 AM No.7578509
>>7578498
ai is a meme, you dumb cunt
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 12:46:43 AM No.7578526
probably, there's a bunch of options for art education, even ones that are structured like actual classrooms available for people and what you make is mostly gonna depend on you not so much the what a degree says
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 12:46:53 AM No.7578528
>>7578498
https://calarts.edu/ccat
You tell me, Rajesh, are the stats going up?
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 1:01:31 AM No.7578564
>>7578497
It's common sense advice. Don't get a $260,000 degree(with a high interest loan) when your end goal is a job with a $30,000 annual salary job.
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 1:21:01 AM No.7578599
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>>7578339 (OP)
>$3000 for a cintiq
Bitch, you do not need the fattest hottest band new fucking cintiq as a goddamn student, I don't even think people "need" screen display if they're really on a budget or the fanciest name brand for that matter, but if it HAS to be a cintiq for your dumb brand loyal ass just get a 16 or something they're like $600 new, I got mine second hand for $400 and it works great, covers everything you'd want out of any tablet, I'm positive a smart shopper could do better, I suck with money.
>also you need to buy movie tickets for research!
Oh my fucking god this woman is hopeless...
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 1:36:12 AM No.7578629
>>7578564
job?
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 2:01:03 AM No.7578679
>>7578599
If you aren't showing the loyalty to consumption to fit in with the people you are going to class with and studying under then you don't get the connections.

Simple as. What, did you think the price tag was to represent educational value or earning potential? No, it's to keep out the POORS
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 2:16:59 AM No.7578696
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It's super animation major centric, I experienced no bullies, but all rumors tell me animation majors are filled with crazy extrovert types who would do shit like that, the only thing I can say is that getting work is the only problem any art school will give you if you do it regardless of major.
>Don't go if you aren't rich
Maybe for a masters but this is something that applies to college or uni in general, "Just get a janitor job if your family is poor bro."
Yeah. No shit? It's safe but then you'll never break out of being poor either.
Not that you have opportunities to anyway
>But you'll go to school with people you might hate but work with against your will!
Again animation centric problem since Disney and Warner pretty much own a fucking monopoly in the West. .
TLDR most of your problems are gonna be outside of the school not within.
Pic unrelated.
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 2:20:16 AM No.7578698
>>7578599
>Bitch, you do not need the fattest hottest band new fucking cintiq as a goddamn student

You kinda do, actually. A Cintiq Pro 24 is required equipment for animation classes at CalArts. No one is going to hire some fresh off the boat retard who isn't comfortable with any of the company equipment. It's the reason everyone in industry uses Photoshop as well. Corruption shit aside, no one wants to deal with special snowflake software/hardware issues in corpo land.
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 2:26:02 AM No.7578701
Why would you ever go to an art school if you already knew how to draw/sculpt? It's one of the few professions where you have portfolio that very clearly displays whether or not you are capable of a job. Art school being a scam should be obvious to anyone with eyes
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 2:30:52 AM No.7578711
>>7578372
She's a calarts graduate.do you expect her to not have bpd?
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 2:36:45 AM No.7578717
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>>7578701
Being good at drawing isn't everything.
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 3:07:34 AM No.7578763
>>7578599
>I don't even think people "need" screen display
Normies can't conceptualize looking at the computer display and drawing on the tablet
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 7:56:48 AM No.7579014
>>7578701
You get more out of a school like Cal Arts or Art Center if you already have a grasp on fundamentals. It's kind of a waste to go through /beg/ hell while at a demanding and expensive college program, /int/s and people with some work experience will just use the opportunities for networking, career guidance, experimenting with process etc. to a much better extent. This mostly only applies to high level schools though.
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 8:01:54 AM No.7579016
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>>7578367
>chicoms
Nope. You need to learn to notice harder.
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 8:07:26 AM No.7579018
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>>7578763
>tfw had to tard-force my brain into getting used to tiny screenless tablet because no way in hell could I afford something like a cintiq
>tfw tried trad recently and it felt like drawing on easy mode
There are benefits to being poor sometimes
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 10:23:16 AM No.7579086
>>7578372
what are the signs of "typing like a BPD person"?
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 10:30:38 AM No.7579092
>>7578763
>>7579018
lol reminds me of last night i was drawing some shit and my brother was asking me how i can tell where i am drawing
i have a small wacom tablet from like 2015 btw
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 11:24:02 AM No.7579121
>>7578354
its called sabotage.
the best way to make a debt slave is to cripple them so they can never pay off their debts.

but you better be careful if you're smart enough to catch on before they screw you over, because they'll destoy you to silence you.
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 11:26:00 AM No.7579123
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>>7579018
>>7579092
Just get a bigger tablet already dude. People claiming to not be able to afford something they could buy on a week's minimum wage pay (or way less, Intuos 3 L tablets are <$100 everywhere you look) that would make their literal lifetime drawing experience many times better have absolutely fucked up priorities.

What you need is something that at least lines up favorably with your display so you get a "screen-like" range of motion. Bragging about making things harder on yourself FOREVER to save a couple hundred bucks at most is absolutely deranged, lads. To anyone else reading this, if you have a 4, 5 or earlier generation Pro Intuos many of the stylus are cross-compatible (do your research for the specifics), so you will likely be able to find a bigger tablet online (ebay, facebook marketplace) missing its stylus for next to nothing.
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 12:54:37 PM No.7579174
>>7579123
I had already bought the fucker, I wasn't going to not learn how to use it. What's done is done, I've bought a bigger one since. But I've learned to use screenless, so that's what I use.
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 1:20:47 PM No.7579198
Korean Tablet Redpill
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>>7579174
That's what I'm saying tho; display tablets belong in the trash along with small tablets. They should have stopped making them at that size-mediums too, frankly-decades ago. If they actually force you to buy a Cintiq (not complaining about price, just the ethics of it) that's ludicrous, and honestly I have to imagine she was pressured into it somehow ("If I don't buy [thing] I'll never be able to keep up!") rather than out and out coerced.

Anyway I don't want to derail the thread so I'll post some anti-art school boilerplate I made from here on out.
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 1:24:26 PM No.7579202
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No "art school thread" should go without these being posted, lads!
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 1:26:18 PM No.7579205
Bahi JD
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 1:27:24 PM No.7579206
Lois van Baarle
Lois van Baarle
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 1:28:26 PM No.7579209
Tom Bancroft
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 1:28:57 PM No.7579210
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 1:29:43 PM No.7579211
Stephen Silver
Stephen Silver
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 1:30:18 PM No.7579213
ASK
ASK
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 2:52:55 PM No.7579282
>>7579213
This one's my favorite. Every time I see it, I go check Slade's current year's featured art, and it somehow keeps getting worse. Last I saw was a giant papier mache penis.
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 3:07:46 PM No.7579295
>>7579213
this is outdated as fuck though, there are several carlarts/western animators working on anime nowadays and their work is fantastic
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 3:55:45 PM No.7579341
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>>7579295
It's not outdated, go to any MFA show, or at least, having gone to one a week ago I can tell you this problem is still there even with so called "High tier schools."
>But examples of breaking from the mold exist!
Yes, but this is also a part of a larger super fucked problem.
You see art education in general, has been doomed by the fact that great artists aren't great writers.
So if you taught a technique and didn't put everything down in a book it got lost.
It is only in recent years we realized "Oh shit there really is all this lost knowledge-- and it's gone."
Someone here will tell me "X manuscript exists" or "Y school teaches this."
Yes but we do not have a full working method for every artist in history, nor do they go fully into detail, some of their secrets we only know because of modern science scrutinizing their paintings. Most schools at their best teach only to 1800s methodology if at all.
Kenyon Cox mentions when he studied under Gerome only 2 students picked up what he taught verbatim, most others were just there to pass his class and move on.
This is why painting developed quick from each painter to painter.
The underpaintings changed until there eventually was none, and so on.
Eventually things we taught long were replaced, then eventually those things faded, figure drawing became academic, and then it was gone completely.
The way we taught things in the past was fundamentally flawed and now we're realizing there is a sincere competency and archival crisis in art.
"Dude you can sign up for figure drawing classes now" and "But some artists don't suck!" are not a valid response to this.
Richard Williams did more by writing that book than he did with any class he taught because he realized schools eventually change curriculums.
Most artists don't realize this but selling books>teaching hands on.
Ideally with photos if not videos as well.
Unless you want to be a dick and hold a monopoly on knowledge.
That sure won't backfire.
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 4:10:42 PM No.7579380
>>7579341
Your schizo blabber doesnt change the fact that there are more and better western animators now than 11 years ago. A bunch of people who work on one piece, chainsaw man, jujutsu kaisen, demon slayer and so on were 9, 10 or 11 years old when that image was made, it is outdated.
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 4:12:01 PM No.7579385
>>7579380
Some people improved โ‰  Competency crisis in the way art is taught is solved forever gang!
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 4:14:28 PM No.7579392
>>7579385
let him have his cope. He needs it for motivation
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 4:34:22 PM No.7579409
>>7579385
You're living in the past gramps, while you whinged and complained the next generation took over and they are excellent animators, you're asshurt because you spent 11 complaining about it instead of drawing
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 5:01:02 PM No.7579435
>>7579409
>People complained not enough people give a shit about technicality
>Others agree and look to Japan from the West to train alongside stuff like Richards books
>They slightly improve things
Wow. Amazing.
Anyway most schools still can't teach everything and a lot of analog knowledge is still lost which would help improve further.
I'm gonna stop replying now because you seem to be going "Nyanyanya nya I can't hear you I win I win!"
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 5:42:31 PM No.7579472
>>7578351
>thumbnail is a butch-looking girl with short green hair
If she looked like a real girl in the thumbnail there'd be no confusion
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 5:48:57 PM No.7579475
>>7578349
She's not androgynous at all. Just because she dresses ugly doesn't mean the physiognomy doesn't scream "tubby special girl".
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 5:57:09 PM No.7579480
fineartdeg
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>>7579202
pic

>>7579295
>>7579341
its not just art-focused schools, even regular university art departments are fucked coast-to-coast

https://www.fdu.edu/academics/colleges-schools/becton/arts/animation/student-work/

https://www.uoartbfa.com/artbfa2024
https://www.uoartmfa.com/home-2024
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 6:00:57 PM No.7579487
>>7579475
she has a troonflag on instagram
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 6:01:05 PM No.7579488
>>7579475
if the autists on this board had the observational skills to tell apart biological women from biological men they'd probably be better artists
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 6:02:25 PM No.7579489
>>7578339 (OP)
You can't trust a girl with green hair and male outfit.
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 6:08:10 PM No.7579497
>>7578339 (OP)
>be goblina
>take a quarter million loan to move to trannyfornia and pay for a scam
>get scammed, but somehow nepo your way into disney
>work on disney's worst animated film since Chicken Little
>get fired, have massive debt, and no job
>ruin your looks and whine on youtube
why should I listen to someone who's only ever made poor choices?
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 6:21:05 PM No.7579516
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>>7578342
What an assault to the eyes, I would also tell people not go to art school if my art came out looking like this.
Anonymous
5/21/2025, 8:07:44 PM No.7579622
>>7579435
>moving to goalposts
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Anonymous
5/21/2025, 8:11:34 PM No.7579627
nothing she says in the video is wrong

>>7578342
I do find this ugly but he reason to draw like this seems reasonable, she says that maybe your style will be the new Danny Antonucci
Anonymous
5/22/2025, 4:06:23 PM No.7580548
>>7578362
wtf I love croquis cafe now
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Anonymous
5/22/2025, 5:12:13 PM No.7580597
>>7579622
Not him but you're giving schools credit for the performance of top-level individual savants whose technical skills they likely had little to do with (Brianne Drouhard comes to mind). For the 95% of the rest of the attendees there's nothing but 20 years of debt misery awaiting them.

The problem with even ostensibly "good" art schools is the extremely relaxed entrance standards. Very few people who just started drawing as a senior in highschool during their brief art class are going to follow that up with two years at Calarts and find employment in a professional field upon graduation, or any time thereafter.

The relaxed entrance standards are exacerbated by pressure from parents wanting their adult children to pursue higher education the second they graduate from highschool, people's ignorance of their own technical limitations, and to add to the pressure some schools have age limits (the objectively solid Goebelins school won't take anyone older than 24 as far as I'd heard). All combined (to say nothing of the tuition costs) this makes the schools a poor prospect for the great majority of attendees
Anonymous
5/22/2025, 6:13:50 PM No.7580655
>>7578342
because her art looks like that
Anonymous
5/22/2025, 6:23:01 PM No.7580661
>>7578339 (OP)
He or she wants to discourage others so less competition for him/her
Anonymous
5/22/2025, 7:45:31 PM No.7580740
>>7578342
in this case yes because this school let them come out with art like this
Anonymous
5/22/2025, 8:44:16 PM No.7580817
>>7578342
its certainly expressive, and I bet for women that never have complex thoughts and just coast through life, this is life changing for them to be able to draw cartoony characters in so many "different" ways. But does this school actually teach the actual "fundies" of art? Like proko style naked old guys.
Anonymous
5/22/2025, 8:45:54 PM No.7580822
>>7578342
am i the only one here who thinks this is beautifully drawn?
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Anonymous
5/22/2025, 8:47:26 PM No.7580826
>>7578439
speaking with authority is a reliable way to get views which is like (you)s here. People will pretend to be experts on anything and speak in a clear tone just to roleplay as someone improtant, all humans like doing this sometimes.
Anonymous
5/22/2025, 8:54:39 PM No.7580843
>>7580822
yes, gouge your eyes out and get a pair that works.
Anonymous
5/22/2025, 10:36:58 PM No.7581027
>>7578339 (OP)
She's warning us. Look how cute she looks before and now she looks now whole making this video. Absolutely wrecked.
Anonymous
5/22/2025, 10:38:38 PM No.7581029
>>7579472
She does.
Anonymous
5/22/2025, 10:41:08 PM No.7581032
>>7578349
Nigger you can't tell by the thumbnail that's a whole bitch? She's literally the one in the graduation photos. NGMI.
Anonymous
5/23/2025, 8:34:56 AM No.7581638
>>7578342
>I spent 200k and went to school for this!
kek
Anonymous
5/23/2025, 2:45:40 PM No.7581795
>>7580822
I don't know if I'd say it's beautiful, but it's definitely appeal-maxxed. You're not going to get people on /ic/ to admit that you can do simple calarts style in an appealing way. It's also one fucking image that you can't assume represents the extent of her skill.
Anonymous
5/23/2025, 5:58:32 PM No.7581928
I will never understand californians
Anonymous
5/23/2025, 6:26:39 PM No.7581946
>>7579380
>an anon gives a fully articulated response, itโ€™s just โ€œschizo blabberโ€
go fuck off yourself, says more about your own comprehension skills than whatever heโ€™s trying to say to you
Anonymous
5/23/2025, 11:53:05 PM No.7582308
>>7578362
>TRUMP NO OH MY GOD!
Replies: >>7582513
Anonymous
5/24/2025, 12:09:22 AM No.7582328
im convinced this thread is proof of /ic/'s degeneracy. if you wanna make it as an artist, you better leave this site and strengthen your empathy muscles, because being a sociopath will get you NOWHERE
Replies: >>7582342 >>7582347 >>7582381 >>7583680 >>7607943
Anonymous
5/24/2025, 12:17:27 AM No.7582342
1717172821581750
1717172821581750
md5: ee2c02a8e29c3f6a3471b381bc14c327๐Ÿ”
>>7582328
>strengthen your empathy muscles
you're telling me to join the rat kingdom so i can tangle my tail with all of the trannies/faggots and rot alongside them? I'd rather be destitute.
Anonymous
5/24/2025, 12:26:06 AM No.7582347
>>7582328
>being a sociopath will get you NOWHERE

It's not really about empathy. If you were a sociopath you'd actually get quite far. People don't like sales jobs because it makes you feel slimy, but if you were a sociopath you'd do the shitty job and get your cocaine with the rest of them. Look at the Zuck, i'm pretty sure he's sociopathic the way he thinks using AI as a replacement as friends is inevitable and doesn't care about taking art from artist because they aren't good enough that doesn't sound very empathetic to me.

The problem with 4chan as a whole is the very way the site is used engenders isolation and blending in with the crowd and it does not gel with what you would have to do to get ahead, because you have to be willing to be standout, look like a fool and work with others for feedback in anything in order to find the right way to get what you want.
Anonymous
5/24/2025, 1:13:19 AM No.7582381
>>7582328
>Empathize with an ugly green-haired Commiefornian goblina who uses her bachelor's degree to make shitty 10-year old tier drawings.
No, I won't.
Anonymous
5/24/2025, 3:37:36 AM No.7582513
>>7582308
croquis.cafe provides a good service at a modest pricepoint. Just because the co-owner is a Karen who had a minor crash out over sharing the site's images doesn't change that fact, and lumping in Trump with these supposed grievances just makes me laugh. Thanks just signed up for another annual sub
Replies: >>7582523
Anonymous
5/24/2025, 3:43:50 AM No.7582523
>>7582513
Oh shit forgot to mention in my post that it used to be a free service but then the owners decided to be greedy fucks but I don't mind throwing away my money to own the libs :)
Replies: >>7583150 >>7585116
Anonymous
5/24/2025, 9:43:07 PM No.7583118
>>7578339 (OP)
>Mom, Dad. I'm sorry. You were right and I was wrong.
Damn...
Anonymous
5/24/2025, 9:49:55 PM No.7583127
>>7578696
>I warn you, don't you dare overthrow society and assign me as a sex slave to the biggest alpha male warlord in the wasteland.
Anonymous
5/24/2025, 10:31:26 PM No.7583150
>>7582523
CC's content has also grown exponentially since then, what about it?

>MUH <$3 A MONTH

>>7579295
I'm returning to this post to have a sensible chuckle about your use of the word "several" here. How many people go to Calarts in a given year? 1500? The point is that it's a bad value proposition and a huge gamble.

>>7578696
>Yeah. No shit? It's safe but then you'll never break out of being poor either

That's bullshit, as has already been discussed and proven by the numbers there is little overlap with an artist's education status and their employment status in the art fields, only your portfolio matters at the end of the day and/or your ability to carry the weight of your own project across the finish line.

This kind of thinking, where you must attend a $50,000 a year college regardless of the poor quality education and training it provides or else you'll always be a loser, is playing right into their hands and is a seriously defeatist outdated boomer attitude. There is a LOT of stuff you could do as an independent artist with $50,000+ that'd be better than attending some daycare for rich dipshits. In fact, pissing away $50,000-$100,000 is a fast track to never having the time to draw again because that loan is going to be 2x that or more if you make minimum payments. I've seen it happen.

Getting a part time job out of highschool and allowing yourself the time to hone your craft with the multitude of free or relatively inexpensive resources including hiring personal tutors or attending individual, pay-as-you-go classes at local Ateliers is as or more valid than rushing off to some college.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX0MrnzBJ8M

Great lecture on the subject of self teaching, regardless of what you think of Atelier-style painting/drawing
Replies: >>7583157 >>7583174 >>7585632 >>7585906
Anonymous
5/24/2025, 10:40:34 PM No.7583157
sadd
sadd
md5: 2da97a6a75d4738697b2646576a40e78๐Ÿ”
>>7583150
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX0MrnzBJ8M
i hate this lecture, because seeing Volen CK's comment there always makes me feel blue
Replies: >>7583244 >>7607947
Anonymous
5/24/2025, 10:50:12 PM No.7583163
>highest grade
>Tangible skill
These don't coorelate in a scholastic setting. An artist that goes to school and deludes themselves into thinking a degree will get them a job outside of anything but graphic design deserves to be in debt for hundreds of thousands. They're braindead. All a school serves in many instances is as a networking ground where you rub elbows with potential peers. If your skill is lacking, you're not going to make it. A degree doesn't change that. "Highest grade" lmfao.
Replies: >>7583174
Anonymous
5/24/2025, 11:00:07 PM No.7583174
>>7583150
>>7583163
>inb4 people try to deny these obvious truths
People who prioritize ladder climbing over all else are a plague in every single industry, trade, hobby, and social setting. It's a frighteningly common value.
Anonymous
5/25/2025, 12:16:45 AM No.7583244
>>7578342
>This is the work of someone who'd graduated with the "highest award that the school can offer". Oh no no no

>>7583157
I remember he resurfaced a year or two ago, has he gone awol again?
Replies: >>7583252 >>7607947
Anonymous
5/25/2025, 12:31:22 AM No.7583252
>>7583244
that was 5 years ago anon
Replies: >>7583288
Anonymous
5/25/2025, 1:15:11 AM No.7583288
v___sharp
v___sharp
md5: c5270d44827fd8b1dced5b297ab4e7c2๐Ÿ”
>>7583252
I'm old and years feel like three months to me now it's honestly fucked up.
Anonymous
5/25/2025, 5:20:19 AM No.7583562
fps
fps
md5: 4f06f6abf23c89a6356d93671e334a16๐Ÿ”
>>7578339 (OP)
Calarts has become a retards Day Centre for tumblrettes and bluesky bitches.
>not attending Focus Point School in Poland
>cheap tuition, great teachers, focus on fundamentals and design
>based country to study in and cheap to live in while studying
>no guarantees from the get go but made to help you focus your portfolio to where you want to be

I don't even care about getting into the dying industry, to be able to paint and learn among similar peers and other aspiring artists and designers and get feedback instantly in a fun learning environment is what I want. I just wanna draw mechs and monsters with frens and will be going next year, join me brothers.
Replies: >>7583702
Anonymous
5/25/2025, 5:22:18 AM No.7583566
fuck off
fuck off
md5: bd7ed6b5eb477a5ab33df31588ace897๐Ÿ”
>>7578351
>>7579475
Please go back to bluesky you fuckin weirdos, this place isn't made for you tranny loving cunts.
Replies: >>7583677
Anonymous
5/25/2025, 7:37:06 AM No.7583677
>>7583566
retard, shes a bio female who wants to be a man (FTM), calling her by "he" is affirming that bullshit.
i repeat, you dont have a clue what youre talking about.
Anonymous
5/25/2025, 7:43:07 AM No.7583680
>>7582328
lol the POTUS is a sociopath
Anonymous
5/25/2025, 8:21:00 AM No.7583702
>>7583562
>based country to study in
poland is a shithole unless you stay at one of the city centers which are literally the exact same as any other metropolis on the first world
Replies: >>7584332 >>7607951
Anonymous
5/25/2025, 10:24:12 PM No.7584332
>>7583702
Isn't that the case for like every country outside of a few exceptions?
Replies: >>7585117 >>7587270
Anonymous
5/26/2025, 5:06:16 PM No.7585116
>>7582523
NTA but I don't mind because i'm not an american
I like CC because i don't get the same pose for a while unlike the free alternatives, and there's a good variety of models, and it's cheap (i am from the first world.)
Anonymous
5/26/2025, 5:08:37 PM No.7585117
>>7584332
ive been to a bunch of rural places (organic farmer collective, long story) and poland is like particularly depressing in the countryside. slovakia, cchxzchzcechia, norway, belarus were all less depressing, norways countryside was actually also really pleasant to live in the rest were mid, but poland good god i do not wanna go there again
Anonymous
5/27/2025, 12:51:47 AM No.7585616
>>7578339 (OP)
Calarts is strictly a networking forum. If you want guidance to learn how to draw and/or are too autistic to network, going there is the dumbest thing you can do.
Anonymous
5/27/2025, 1:04:11 AM No.7585632
>>7583150
I like some Watts videos but you can't deny the guy is first and foremost trying to sell his courses
He recommends people to do said courses multiple times as well, saying they'll totally get better every time they pay through the nose to do the exact same thing
Replies: >>7585814
Anonymous
5/27/2025, 4:15:36 AM No.7585814
>>7585632
I don't really get that impression at all. It's an over an hour long video and of course he's going to promote his school a handful if times, but I trust he's speaking from authentic experience.

If you can master a concept in visual art by doing it once or twice that's pretty impressive. Telling people they will need to repeat things-and a lot-is the sad truth for 99% of us.
Anonymous
5/27/2025, 5:34:48 AM No.7585906
>>7583150
This Watts guy is cool, but can he draw a kangaroo?
Anonymous
5/27/2025, 9:19:52 PM No.7586639
5zzg7t1wl4i71
5zzg7t1wl4i71
md5: de759945b8ae9ff520078a564a7ac814๐Ÿ”
>>7578339 (OP)
>2 minutes in
>got money to take an uber to the theatre to watch films for research?
get on the bus you fucking faggot.
Or better yet, torrent the fucking movie.
kids these days...
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 6:19:17 AM No.7587270
>>7584332
Third world? Yes. First World? No, former Soviet Block is bad in that regard, but Western Europe is much nicer and the Nordics and Switzerland downright pleasant.
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 6:24:48 AM No.7587274
>>7578342
>>7580822
This looks like it's drawn by someone who can draw, but he was aiming to complete it in the shortest amount of time possible and so used the simplest style he could and put 0 care into details.
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 8:47:33 AM No.7587352
>>7579205
>bahi jd
i wish they guy would stop deleting his tweets so randomly
he'll randomly post a tweet out of the blue on something art or animation related, and then he deletes it 20 minutes later
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 2:29:56 PM No.7587507
>>7579198
the rest of your pics are good but this one is dumb
Replies: >>7588768
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 3:16:37 PM No.7587536
>>7578339 (OP)
Diploma mills were a thing when I was coming up about 25 years ago, and they are still a thing for gullible, desperate people who want to move up. They tend to target low income, low education people and then load them up with student loans. These "schools" (that are non-accredited) make shit loads on giving people useless papers and educations that are a dice roll in whether or not you can actually use them to gain employment. If they don't promote their alums don't bother (because they didn't get a job).
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 4:22:47 PM No.7587603
>>7578339 (OP)
I'll make this short and sweet I have things to do today, I went to our school for animation I went through the program most of the people in there were either transgender or mentally ill, I had a lot of fun. I met professors and people who work in the industry and talked to people working in the industry currently people will work on major movies TV shows older stuff like the Powerpuff girls and so on. Out of her 40 plus student class none of them are currently working in the industry, we had quite a pool of talent we had people who were in Pixar's internship and went to lightbox and all the other little animation things, they made hit tiktok videos and all of those little things that people talk about didn't mean anything. So for an artist let me give you some advice there's two ways you want to work in the industry or you want to be independent. If you want to work in the industry basically after talking to all these animation heads and all these famous people you find out really fast they're not that talented they're just living in the places with the jobs are, all their advice comes down to work on your demo reel and move to the places where the jobs are you'll get something in about a year. The other way independent you just make a lot of stuff and get better but your stuff out there and see what happens. But when I watch videos of people complaining about her at school they always are complaining that Disney did not fly a helicopter to their house and take them to Pixar studios where they live in the back room and make animations. They don't live where the jobs are and they also don't understand that most of the time you're freelance. I am very happy after my animation program that I actually have multiple skills to fall back on, I still animate and draw but I'm not skilled enough and also I kind of know all the talent and know exactly what the industry is like..
Replies: >>7587612
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 4:34:17 PM No.7587612
>>7587603
I also just reviewed most of her channel right now so I wanted to post again because I am distracting myself from actually doing my work. She is a was person she was working in the industry she was working on movies but then she supposedly gave it all up because she wanted to explore the world and her own gender or some nonsense. I see those with a lot of people especially artists they kind of have these big egosand the calls will keep coming they don't actually have to pursue anything they just will get called in becausethey gets so smart eventually, the call stop coming in and if you find out real fast that your forgotten person. Knowing the progression of these people she's probably going to end up selling some sort of online course
Replies: >>7587657
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 4:54:58 PM No.7587629
>>7579202
>>7579205
>>7579206
>>7579209
>outlining your text
Fucking why
Replies: >>7588768
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 5:44:07 PM No.7587657
>>7587612
>She is a was person she was working in the industry she was working on movies but then she supposedly gave it all up because she wanted to explore the world and her own gender or some nonsense.

She said that, but if you look at her IMD page everything she worked on flopped massively
Replies: >>7587662 >>7587774
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 5:47:17 PM No.7587662
>>7587657
aka I think she was fired
Replies: >>7587774
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 6:12:13 PM No.7587691
Published artist here that never went to artschool

Thereโ€™s no right way, but her advice on what to include in a sketchbook is very very good
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 7:22:11 PM No.7587767
>>7580548
>check the site
>its all nude
yuck
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 7:26:05 PM No.7587774
>>7587657
>>7587662
that's generally not the artists fault, but the writers
Replies: >>7587780 >>7589367 >>7590377
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 7:32:42 PM No.7587780
>>7587774
If the artists are contributing to workplace environment where bad ideas cannot be critiqued as a matter of workplace culture, then yes it's partially their fault.
Replies: >>7587782
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 7:35:23 PM No.7587782
>>7587780
in 99% of workplaces, you cannot critique what your superiors are doing
Replies: >>7587786 >>7593689
Anonymous
5/28/2025, 7:41:24 PM No.7587786
>>7587782
I know, it's a problem of the current age. Tons of historical anecdotes about how a line worker suggested some alteration to a process or complained about some machine or whatever which resulted in improvements. And in the creative industry there's even more stories about how one dude made a suggestion that just improved everything about an idea or design or plot.

Too many people have head-up-ass when in such a high position now, and/or are making things based on direction from people who aren't creative with anything but accounting, statistics, and interpretations of law.
Anonymous
5/29/2025, 5:20:10 PM No.7588768
Screencel
Screencel
md5: 1b4b632399ee259b2b97203d0a49c7c0๐Ÿ”
>>7587507
Technically that specific one isn't mine but it reinforces one I did make (pic related). Drawing on a screen is actively harmful to artists in a way that drawing traditionally isn't, or more accurately digital exacerbates the ways that drawing traditionally is harmful. With a screen you're transfixed to the screen itself 100% of the time with zero compulsory movement. With traditional media, more often than not, you have to sharpen pencils, apply paint, swap out your markers or pens etc. regularly; you're in motion so the burden of the sub-optimal posture is alleviated somewhat

I'm a big advocate for using screen-free tablets for that reason. With your arms and shoulders largely at rest, and the screen's height level with your brow, it's just a much healthier way to draw long term-and if you get a large tablet the drawing "feel" is near identical to using a screen, anyway.

>>7587629
Because plain yellow text on a white background is hard to read

>just use a different color then

No!

(I'll keep this criticism in mind for next time, though)
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 3:00:26 AM No.7589367
>>7587774
doesn't matter, these big corps like disney do it like that, if a project bomb everyone involved in it is fired, doesn't matter what they did
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 5:06:06 PM No.7589930
/our girl/ posted kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSfjghBBM8Q
Replies: >>7590264
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 10:34:01 PM No.7590264
>>7589930
4 minutes in and she gets to the "you can see it's AI art, human art has inherent soul". That's like the least relevant thing, the layman does not care and that's where the money is.. and that's assuming that AI could be told apart at a glance. I'm sure I'm not the only one seeing AI, going "oh that's cool", adding it to my refs and only later discovering it has artifacts. What soul, I ask...
Replies: >>7590357
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 11:09:20 PM No.7590299
>>7578342
This just makes it more believable, if he draws as badly as it looks in the picture, then he really got ripped off.
Replies: >>7590360
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 11:49:04 PM No.7590357
>>7590264
I think she has a point tho, AI has been a thing for 2 years now and we don't see successful ai comics, manga or movies, we see porn but porn is the lowest bar possible, people have been fapping to ugly simpsons porn for 40 years at this point
Replies: >>7590517
Anonymous
5/30/2025, 11:50:02 PM No.7590360
>>7590299
she's a biological woman
Replies: >>7590397 >>7591104
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 12:00:40 AM No.7590377
>>7587774
bad writing can only be critiqued by people who consumed the product. First, audience needs to be attracted to product, and that's mostly visual. If a shit artist made dogshit character designs that won't sell a single toy/action figure, it is a big reason for a movie flopping.
Replies: >>7590405
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 12:16:37 AM No.7590397
>>7590360
Your mom is a biological woman
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 12:25:28 AM No.7590405
>>7590377
her art is good, so too bad for your theory
Replies: >>7590414
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 12:31:48 AM No.7590414
trannyworld
trannyworld
md5: 52e2b830d683cbdf0539a15a0dbd528a๐Ÿ”
>>7590405
her magnum opus
Replies: >>7590436 >>7590503 >>7590514
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 12:46:52 AM No.7590436
>>7590414
I would honestly believe it if someone told me this was one of those AI movie posters people were generating a while ago.
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 2:19:27 AM No.7590503
>>7590414
its technically very good, the art director just took it in the wrong direction
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 2:37:49 AM No.7590514
>>7590414
Where's your Disney movie? Oh you don't have one, do you?
Replies: >>7590582
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 2:39:00 AM No.7590517
>>7590357
That's the cope I had for a long time but I think we are past critical mass now. That's to say that no model collapse or investors running out of money is going to happen. The researchers just find a way to up themselves each time. We had Will Smith eating spaghetti like 2 years ago and we had image gen that couldn't stay on model for shit but now we have photo realism for video and we need witch hunts and process videos to confirm an artist isn't using AI. You are the frog being boiled if you don't see the obvious fast upwards trajectory here. Furthermore porn is largely small creators, legit studios need time to pivot and are currently doing everything they can so that they'll be the first to replace their artists for the sloppa tsunami to come. In any case I won't stop drawing before the AI can spit out exactly the image I have in my head for a piece on the canvas. If that ever happens, then just rip, I'll submit and plug myself into the matrix and goon away
Replies: >>7590526 >>7590549 >>7592285
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 2:46:15 AM No.7590526
>>7590517
>no model collapse
GPT is measurably getting worse, at least. I have the $20 a month tier, and I used to use it to cheat on my college assignments and it would literally know EVERYTHING it was a miracle

now, I'm lucky if I get a B. Lots of other studies are showing that it's hallucinating more, and people are not sure why
Replies: >>7590546 >>7590549 >>7592285
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 3:02:44 AM No.7590546
>>7590526
Image gen =/= text gen. Though actually idk if they use the same tranformer or whatever basis and if there is reason to believe that they'd fail together. But yeah I also don't believe text gen has made it yet. It's clear the models can be distilled and stuff to make them more performant but everything still relies on the old fashion 'throw a trillion parameters into the problem' solution which is unsustainable in growth. And in a similar vein if this transformer based thing fails, we are onto square one again with AGI and all that. But about image gen, I've had the presumption that it's a ton lighter in computing and differs a lot from text gen and there's all the options to augment it with 3D tools etc. so it doesn't have to have a complete break through to decimate everything to do with art
Replies: >>7590549 >>7592285
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 3:06:37 AM No.7590549
>>7590517
>>7590526
>>7590546
None of that matters because commissioners pay you to have YOUR vision on things. It's not that they want to just have their goonfuel or decorative piece or gift for their wife (or all 3 at once) and the only thing stopping them is no time to learn the skills, it's that they like the art YOU make in particular.

They are not the fucking corpo retards who are just trying to make product and your art is one widget in the overall machine.
Replies: >>7590561
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 3:25:39 AM No.7590561
>>7590549
You have way too much belief in people. Some or even a lot of commissioners might be doing it for the love of the game but others just want the product. Also the commissions for private art is a small part of the whole picture. Even on the grass roots level (think vtubers, people needing all sort of assets for soc med), things quickly get to where people actually need artist's services to get shit done and not some commission for private use. Currently social policing prevents a lot and morale is still good but we are blurring the line more each day
Replies: >>7591172
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 3:54:56 AM No.7590582
>>7590514
No but at least my art didnt lose hundreds of millions and cause thousands of people to lose their livelihoods.
Replies: >>7591052
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 7:59:24 AM No.7590728
>>7578497
> Nigga
Opinion discarded
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 8:00:46 AM No.7590729
>>7578698
Another reason hand drawn is superior.
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 1:20:27 PM No.7590852
Is there a fake Indian art uni I can get a fake degree from? If it works in the tech field it should work for art.
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 5:54:34 PM No.7591052
>>7578497
>Nigga
Opinion sanctioned and exalted

>>7590582
lmao
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 7:05:31 PM No.7591104
>>7590360
Biological Woman my balls, he is a faggot.
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 8:19:14 PM No.7591172
>>7590561
>others just want the product
Those are the people who were never going to want to pay you properly for your skills and time and would have just gone to some indonesian teenager for it the moment they found out they charge $30 for a full rendered anime girl in void.

Quite literally they aren't the market you should be appealing to. The main thing you have as an artist is a monopoly on your own vision, if you start competing in areas outside of that it's just stupid. You have no competitive advantage in a global market without it, AI or not.

>vtubers or people needing all sort of assets for soc med
Most of those pay either the fiverr pajeets or download free premade assets off of places like booth. Remember that MOST of these people pull low numbers and thus have no budget. If they get to the point where they need something quality then yes they will pay an artist (non-AI or AI, doesn't matter at that point because they don't want slop). These were never the big sustainable markets you are acting like they are.

What you ideally want is a number of high spenders who will pay you weekly or monthly.
Example:
>My buddy is doing a commission for someone
>a third of the way in the guy asked for a complex addition
>buddy maths it out, would increase the price by 60% of the original agreed upon three-digit amount
>his client happily agrees and pays it

You need people like this. In America ALONE 1 in every 14 people is a millionaire, and that's only a chunk of the 8 billion humans we have on this planet.
Replies: >>7591360
Anonymous
5/31/2025, 10:56:57 PM No.7591360
>>7591172
A millionaire because of the real estate market, not because he's a salaried employee, the lie of the American dream ends when you realize that all the shitty old men have already bought most of the properties.
Replies: >>7591541
Anonymous
6/1/2025, 1:36:26 AM No.7591541
>>7591360
No a lot of people have money and plenty will spend it on custom-made art and their other hobbies instead of endlessly consuming overpriced goyslop 5 days a week and paying scalper prices for cheap yearly FOMO items.

You just don't see them in your IRL life because they have for the most part decided to stop participating in mainstream society outside of their high paying jobs.
Anonymous
6/1/2025, 7:55:42 PM No.7592285
>>7590517
>>7590526
>>7590546
model collapse can happen to images as well as text.

I thought image generation was harder than word generation?
Anonymous
6/2/2025, 1:29:11 AM No.7592585
>>7579086
>Disagrees with me politically
Anonymous
6/3/2025, 12:35:53 AM No.7593689
F2C2D5D4-005C-495C-B2D0-ACC37442A049
F2C2D5D4-005C-495C-B2D0-ACC37442A049
md5: 695808dac4af362ede32088b69cd5a1d๐Ÿ”
>>7587782
>Fuck it, send them down. I need to get paid for this week.
Anonymous
6/3/2025, 1:59:09 PM No.7594210
>>7578339 (OP)
>a green haired freak that can still only make doodles is surprised about no one wanting to hire xer
Who would have thought?
Anonymous
6/6/2025, 6:46:58 PM No.7598783
>>7578339 (OP)
what's his point though?
Replies: >>7599905
Anonymous
6/7/2025, 5:52:07 PM No.7599905
>>7598783
>his
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 10:21:30 AM No.7603698
>>7578339 (OP)
man im sick of seeing this goblina, time to hide this shit rhead
Replies: >>7603924
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 3:59:17 PM No.7603924
>>7603698
and yet you bumped it from page 10. Curious.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:51:23 PM No.7604163
1712617857021v-3
1712617857021v-3
md5: 5cec29972936d3b0ae9821d369def756๐Ÿ”
>>7604162
nta but i do find panelki comforting, probably because i grew up around them. they're very nostalgic
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 11:44:18 PM No.7604414
handstudies
handstudies
md5: 131e9f9a2d6fc701fe23f40776552ae4๐Ÿ”
>>7579198
why do you hate screens?

I have a kamvas pro 4k and it's pretty decent-
but I don't use it lmoa, I either use my intuos medium pro or just a samsung tablet with infin painter that I got free
better yet if I'm out I just sketcvh on a notepad

so I guess I follow the same adherence but I'm less opinionated and I've never had pain with either except in my hand
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:15:25 PM No.7607943
>>7582328
disgusting.
This thread is so tame you must have left your hugbox bubble for the first time. You deserve art school.
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:16:26 PM No.7607947
>>7583157
>>7583244
>Volen CK
nightmare fuel.
rough stuff
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:19:26 PM No.7607951
>>7583702
you couldn't be any wronger.
Okay, the rural areas in the East are pretty bleak.
I plan to work in Poland soonish. Good salaries for IT compared to Germany and not as many leftist extremists in critical institutions.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:51:39 AM No.7608222
>>7578339 (OP)
Art school's fine if you're doing it at city college or something (while working part time)
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:45:57 PM No.7608671
>>7578698
its just a screen with macros you can learn to use it in like 15 minutes
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:57:49 PM No.7608772
>>7578339 (OP)
Yes. She's not the first entrepreneur to say this. Everything she said was more correct.

>be rich
Yep
>OC content comes from life experience
Yep
>going to college unprepared/too young immature retard
Yep