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>>7601083 (OP)
Worth it to try and make a hentai VN or long term game project or is it too much effort for a lone actor? I could do the art and coding bit I'll have to use shitty royalty free music or something

How does drawing from reference actually helps me? I'm suffering.

>>7601234
Do it, writefags say writing is hard, but that's just them gatekeeping.

>>7601239
you're suffering because you lack skills. having trouble with reference is only pointing it out by giving you a comparison point, not making your art look worse

>>7601234
the music is the last concern, there's an infinity of free music out there. the real tough parts are the art and writing. ive worked on a VN project before, and it was a struggle getting things done just because there was so much text to write and organise. VNs are pretty accessible for solo devs or duos though

>>7601083 (OP)
i would like to say thank you to >>7595202 whom i couldnt reply to before the thread died. i do appreciate it.

>>7601234
Do you have a story in mind?

>>7601239
>symbol drawing

>>7601381
I'm trying my best

>>7601269
>>7601274
I'll give it a go then as it seems like something that could be both promising and fulfilling to work on versus just grinding Loomis heads aimlessly.
>>7601372
Kind of. One of my ideas is a femdom themed brothel where the player can play with different girls for different experiences and maybe some affection mechanics incorporated or something. Not a lot of room for story there, and femdom is a pretty broad niche so it might be polarizing to people who only come for one thing and don't appreciate others.

The other is the player is a trap or futanari in an all girls boarding school with different routed depending on the character chosen, and more in depth story/dating mechanics.

My digital art pen's eraser broke off while I was doing cartoon studies. The important part (the nib) still works, but I'd still like to have the eraser. Anyone ever replace the pen for their tablet? Mine is an XP-Pen Artist 12. I checked the website, and XP-Pen stopped supporting my tablet.
https://www.xp-pen.com/store/buy/ph02-battery-free-stylus.html
I tried looking on Amazon, but I can only find a pens that support XP-Pen Artist Pro 12. Am I going to have to bite the bullet and buy a new tablet?

Also while I'm here, anyone have tips for drawing cartoon/anime eyelashes? I think I'm supposed to carefully outline them, but I'm not sure.

>>7602190
If you're in the states then there's someone selling a stylus for like 35 bucks on Ebay. But honestly you might want to just get a new tablet since spending 30% of what your current one's worth on a stylus seems silly, especially when it's a 7 year old low-end tablet already.

>>7602215
Good gosh, there's only 1 being sold on ebay atm. It may be time for me to replace my tablet. At the very least my current tablet got me through college and a few freelance jobs. So I got my money's worth.

Is my hatred for good artist who draw only portraits justified? I feel like they could do so much more? Yet instead of telling a story or a particular emotion, they just use their skills to achieve some dopamine hit like: "oh this face looks good neuron activation brbrbr" I might be jealous or something. But i genuinely feel superior.

>>7603213
I'm jealous of chads who can draw good portraits because they can paint their friends and loved ones whereas I'm stuck in anime hell

please someone actually kill me. How do I draw portraits???

>>7603213
No.
>>7603236
The same way you git gud at anything: practice. If you want to draw portraits, then draw portraits. Your first portraits are going to look like garbo, but they'll improve over time. Getting a book about drawing and painting portraits would help, too.

>>7603336
What book would you recommend?

>>7603338
Internet Archive has a copy of Famous Artists School's How to Draw and Paint Portraits, which is aimed at the novice student.

Literally HOW do i start and make meaningful progress. Just Draw Lmao means NOTHING and I see 0 improvement.

>>7603213
Kinda, I think well-rendered head floating in a void is a boring genre

>>7603539
chose one thing you suck at. one part of that thing.for example; fingers. and draw 1000 of it. 100 fingers per day for 10 days.
to do it effectively, use reference like your own hand, your hand in a mirror, anatomy books(draw the finger bones from all angles one day, and then with the muscles on the next), also draw from other artists.

it only takes about a minute to draw a finger, so this would be under 2 hours of your day that you'd otherwise spend doomscrolling

Why do I suck at digital
I can't just quickly throw stuff down like I can with paper

>>7604034
how long have you drawn on digital vs. trad? Most of the time it's simply a question of habit

>>7604215
I've been drawing trad much longer than digital

how do you motivate yourself to draw when everything just feels so hopeless

>>7604376
draw what your hopelessness looks like
draw what you would do to your enemies if you could
draw your ideal self
art can be pretty therapeutic if you use it to express yourself

>>7604376
stop drawing

inject dbol and lift

have sex

does learning fundamentals of drawing then spending the time setting up entire 3D scenes/rigs to trace over make me a permabeg fake? I have been a 3D artist in the industry for over 2 decades but can't draw for shit

How did Leonardo da Vinci get so good if there was no /ic/ to help him back then?

>>7604422
Is knowing how to draw important to you? Then yes

>>7604423
he slammed, and this is very important, a LOT of boycunt

>>7604416
NTA
>inject dbol
dbol is an oral

>tfw gf wants me to do all 3 latter things AND draw

>>7604034
Your setup could be annoying you. Figure out if you need to change keybinds or UI.
With paper you can just grab a sheet and scribble and then throw it out or grab a new one, in digi you have to futz around with the new document or moving to a different spot or new layer.

May also have to do with how you rotate the thing. I know on paper I am constantly moving the whole paper around.

>>7604553
>dbol is an oral
you can inject it too, if you want.

pain builds men

Do you guys use any line stabilizers when making digital art? I never have cause I always felt it was cheating, and my line art sucks ass. I’m looking at other artists’ amazing digital linework and wondering if I’m just cucking myself.

Any apps, programs or resources that have 3d models for anatomy like "3d Anatomy for the Artist" but you know, doesn't cost 40 bucks?

>>7604779
do the ruler test. place a ruler on your tablet/pad and draw a straight line at medium speed. if there is any wobbling, turn your stabilization up until it's gone. when i first switched to digital i noticed at 0 stabilization my lines were terrible and wobbly compared to my trad lines. it's just how things are, line stabilization is necessary.

>>7604423
no idea, maybe someone should write a book about him

can i learn anatomy before learning lots of perspective? i dont really enjoy it as much when i cant put people in stuff

>>7605139
Yup, when drawing, don't think, feel.

Most popular fetishes that aren't furry or scat related?

>>7606007
feet

>>7606020
I'm bad at drawing feet :/

>>7606033
incest

How do I market/network my stuff effectively on Twitter? Is it just going to the appropriate niche communities and interacting with them? Do I do the same on /d/ or /h/ threads?

Should I be using 4chan?

>>7606185
swallow your pride and type like an overly positive normie & spam the art mutual hashtags

>>7606195
absolutely not but you know you can't leave

>>7606199
>can't leave

True and false. You can leave, but there's a digital foot print left behind and it's archived. Dandadandadandandadan

>>7601083 (OP)
Why are they called threads? Where did this term come from?

>>7606243
Because of how they are structured. Replies are nested underneath the main topic, like a thread.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_(online_communication)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum#Structure
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_forum#Thread
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/thread

if you guys do lineart, what colour do you usually use for the lineart? ive seen people do blend layers for it

>>7606199
Twitter suppresses hashtag use, you're an idiot.

>>7606185
Act like a brand account.
>Imagine that your account is part of a corporation, Anon's Artworks
>It's not a personal account, it's company property
>While using it you are just the social media manager
>So you put your social media manager hat on, and if you do anything that would be inappropriate for such a role you put your manager hat on and fire the social media manager

Thinking of things from this perspective will turbocharge your twitter. It's not about "being social" it's about cold hard marketing.

>>7601083 (OP)
I would like to go back to some fundies. I know the basic perspective and anatomy.
Vilppu has a lot of stuff. Which one of his courses should I pick up to go on in learning the figure drawing, especially from imagination?

>>7607836
His site recommended that you start with his Vilppu Drawing Manual - Basic figure drawing. It's focused on figure drawing, do the exercises from reference, then from imagination to deliberately practice that skill since that is your goal. There's also an accompanying DVD series going through the book too, you can find it on RuTracker or Bilibili. Vilppu Studio - Drawing Manual. Use both the book and the videos or whichever you prefer.

>>7606267
Thanks
>>7606199
Why is 4chan not recomended? Would it be better to remove anonity?

what's a good way for a retarded /prebeg/ to learn anatomy

>>7608943
https://youtu.be/5sUbnpserx0

Why are artists seething so much at other artists using AI as a tool for background and whatnot

>>7608951
but i dont really want to draw comics at all

>>7608962
Gatekeeping and virtue signaling mostly. I don't use AI and don't really plan to, but it's pretty obvious at this point that people are just making up reasons to continue to hate it purely for team sports reasons. Hacks working for Blizzard or whatever convinced tons of kids that AI is the arch-evil to scapegoat their crumbling industry and now it's they're whole personality. It's just pronoun shit.

How I do I force myself to keep trying after making mistakes? My line of thought to justify giving up drawing goes something like this:
>tries copying something from reference
>draws lots of stuff
>compare the ref to my drawing
>"X is too small", "Y shouldn't be there", "I forgot Z" recognizing the mistake
>"I don't want to erase all this"
>closes drawing book with unfinished drawing/erases everything and doesn't try again

>>7608943
prebegs don't need to learn anatomy

Other than the apple pen, what stylus would you recommend that works on ipad mini 6? I'm tired of drawing with my finger but that shit is too expensive in my country.

>>7609659
well ive got to start somewhere

>>7608943
Scott Eaton to learn the anatomy. It won't tell how to draw, but it's the very first step.
Michael Hampton, both course and book, to get in a simple schematic drawing, understandable to everyone. It's what helped me to understand other resources.
Then you can get to more advanced ones, like Glenn Vilppu.

>>7604423
a lot of people this days dont know how to learn something, at the core level. School was only an act of hollow repetition for them and just when they reach some age and want to learn something new they realize they never put any effort into trying to learn something so they don't even know how to do that, genuine stupidity.

>>7604779
most of the time, because i draw too much commissions so your hands feel the pressure as the hours pass, stabilizers help with accuracy when you need speed.

>>7604825
most 3d models are bad to study anatomy, dont do that, specially in, sentitive parts, like joints and the core body proportion. They can only help you with general poses and their perspective. Pirate some early version of DesignDoll.

>>7606007
ass and tits, but ecchi focused

>>7609470
dont try to erase your mistakes, just continue and draw again trying to not make them, that's the whole point of "draw more", that you need to constantly put your max to make something, then move on and try more things.

what's the most efficient way of laying down flat color for rendering?

>>7610676
Skipping flats and just going straight to rendering.
Not fucking around with layers saves so much time.

Has my art been getting worse or do I just need to stop comparing myself to others

I wish I enjoy drawing just random stuff idk why I overthink drawing it's not possible for me to get better

When I was learning how to draw and trying to crack forms, all I did for two weeks was read Vilppu's book and copy the art from it, eventually it clicked for me and I just understand forms ever since, intuitively

Now I'm trying to crack anime faces and I've done an hour of copying anime faces minimum every day for the past two months yet the method still feels elusive and nonsensical to me, I can draw a 3D "realistic" head but I feel like I'm not any closer to understanding principles of anime faces, what should I do to supplement this process?

>>7610694
Skill wise it looks about the same.
Composition is way worse, though.

>>7610700
The secret is anime faces aren't 3D.

ways to make a living off art as a nobody sfw drawer? webcomics?

>>7610702
>skill wise about the same
Thank fuck, I’m terrified of regressing back to how I drew before
>composition is way worse
I gotta put more effort into composition, this (pic) is probably the only recent peace with ok composition and even then it’s not the best
Thanks anon

>>7610696
Bump
Is it worth drawing if you just can't do it for fun?

>>7610721
no

How do I find art to look at

>>7610712
Paint landscapes or still life.

>>7610747
Pintrest, google, and literally anywhere
My personal favorite is public.works, it’s a bunch of art that’s no longer under copyright, most of it is old as hell so it’s really interesting to me

Ok I'm just going to draw everyday and view it like I do fighting games, just something I do daily and improve at

>>7610676
lots of different methods, basically it's a balance of slowly and carefully, vs quick and dirty. usually you'll strike a balance between the two for more flexibility.
if your style has line art, spending extra time cleaning up the line art can save a lot of time when it comes to flatting in the the colors. if you want to be able to easily change the colors to experiment, setting up the layers properly would be worth the time investment.
some people prefer not messing around with layers and such, so they just block it in quickly on one or two layers.

this video showed multiple methods you can try out to see which you prefer actually doing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FyNtDbd9Gw

How was this effect done? It looks like an overlay but what kind of blending mode is it?

>>7610700
it was a mistake posting your art. you're obviously talented and I have no wish to help out my competition

>>7611046
Multiply + paintover

>>7610700
hard to tell what you are getting wrong unless you post your anime faces
usually its a problem with the face proportions
and how it's anime is more of an advanced 2d symbol rather than a normal 3d form
you should be able to get the 'anime feel' with just simple circles, dots and lines. put the features on separate layers and play around with the ratios until it looks right.

>>7610700
the "principle" should be the same as most stylized faces. only the skull is a 3d form, facial components are usually symbols and their look and proportions can readily break rules based on angle, style and aesthetic preferences

How do I get into drawing hands? Im drawing from beg level. Only read/practiced Fun with a Pencil and am working my way through Perspective Made Easy and Keys to Drawing (along with drawabox). But whenever I draw for fun I have the worst time drawing the body and especially the hands.

Where can I post approximately 3550 drawings, totaling at 75MB? People sometimes ask me if I have a blog where I post my art but I don't have one and don't want one. If I'm asked again it would be nice to just give them one link.

>>7611863
Google Drive? How the fuck does 3000 drawings equal 75MB? Are you drawing at 16x16px?

>>7611870
Most of my drawings are around 7KB.

I don't want to study art everyday...sometimes I just wanna draw...but is that ok ?
I feel like it'll be horrible

>>7612084
You really shouldn't be studying every day

>>7612099
Im too scared to draw it makes me scared

>>7612102
Don't be a bitchlet

Draw

>>7612103
I'm a tranny... Wish I could draw in bed

>>7611456
Just do like Ixy and trace a 3D model of a hand.
Kinda broke the magic watching his course...but oh well. You live and learn.

I tried to request a commission from an artist I really like but they never replied back after I replied what I wanted. It's been over a month now. Did I get rejected? I already sent other notices. ;_;

>>7614057
Yes, probably

>>7608943
What the fuck is a /prebeg/? I thought /beg/ was the lowest.

>>7611883
scribbleschizo...........

>>7614141
dumb meme term. probably make the distinction between someone who sucks shit and someone who has basically never drawn

>>7614141
/prebeg/, Someone who draws, but never made any real effort to learn

/beg/, Someone who has started to learn, but still sucks ass

/permabeg/, Someone who has been learning for a long time and still sucks ass.

>>7614085
it is that norm for them to just ghost you? it was my first time commissioning somebody.

>>7614539
Depends on the person, but kinda yeah.

how the FUCK do I lineart abs without it looking janky as shit

I'm profoundly retarded (duh) wtf does NTA and crab mean in this board's context

I can't decide if it's worth investing in a apple pencil. Everyone and their mom uses one, I've never seen a great artist drawing with their fingers on an ipad. But it's overpriced as hell and I can't find any dupes here, have to get one off online which means it'll probably break in a month. I want to ask people if buying a pencil made you better/faster at drawing but I realize most people start off drawing on paper anyway.

>>7614648
NTA= Not That Anon. as in "I'm not that anon you were talking to but I'm chiming in with my own 2 cents"
crab or crabbing refers to the crabs in a bucket phenomenon, where crabs stuck in a bucket will see other crabs climbing their way out and actively pull them back in to hinder them. basically, people who try to hold others back from success or keep others down. it's common enough to see on /ic/ that it's become a meme. related to this meme, you'll sometimes see posts like "snip snip" or "snib snib" (the sound of a crab's pincers clicking)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality

I’ve been doing some reading and I think I’m NGMI should I give up?

>>7615141
why would reading make you think you're NGMI? when doing early exercises in fun with a pencil in particular, the end result isn't expected to look as coherent and appealing as loomis' examples in the pages, the exercises are just to help you understand the idea of sculpting a face out of geometric 2d shapes and lines
if you're looking at loomis' illustrations, comparing them to what you can create right now and immediately thinking "i'm ngmi" without recognising that that's not only unhelpful but missing the point of the exercise then you really are never gmi

>>7615155
Well fine then fuck you nigger

This is the best work I've ever made, but the shading/painting is all dull, even after an editing glow-up.

What am I getting wrong?

why does my lineart look so lifeless

>>7615141
When in doubt always give up.
>>7615160
Give up but in life, no one will mourn ya.

>>7616238
Because you line lifelessly. And that's not a joke, that's the entire reason why.

How do I get better at art faster? I have no idea what I’m doing ever

>>7616390
>I have no idea what I’m doing ever
Get a clue, then
Read a book

>>7616276
Oh yeah well no one will mourn you with muh dick

>>7614644
Only put lines at the exact opposite of the light direction. The less the light is in-plane with the abs (ie more in front ir behind the figure) the more the lines are hatched instead of solid. Unless you are extreme shredded muscle fetish art.

How do you move from commission work to contracts/industry? i been trying mentorship and studying but in terms on how to approach to ask for work I'm lost.

How do I stop getting angry and deleting everything

>>7617796
ok I'll try that thank you!

how do i find females to pose for me

>>7618344
Pay them

Why is the center line crooked here? When is the center line ever crooked to begin with?

I’m wanting to get into digital art but I have fuck all for electronics (mobilefagging right now). Which one would be better in the long term?
>iPad pro 13 inch with 2tb of storage
>desktop setup with Wacom pad and 2 monitors (one for shitposting/references/tutorials and one for exclusively drawing)

>>7601083 (OP)
Anyone know where to get cracks for latest Rebelle Pro versions?

>>7621293
A smartphone with access to the internet is enough. Plenty of easy AI websites to use and generate better "art" than you'll ever produce.

>>7621340
I want a real answer, not an AI shill answer, Jayesh.

>>7616343
how do I line with life

>>7621253
Do you mean the horizon line?

>>7622131
No.

>>7621253
For the same reason the horizon line is crooked: The camera is.

His guidelines here are kinda weird though, the grid lines aren't actually aligned with the scene.

>>7621253
look at the vertical and horizontal center lines, the whole thing is tilted to give that sort of feeling/composition, like how you could tilt any normal perspective

>>7603213
you're in the 5th circle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBFCGbAhNJA

Can someone redline a box around this sword?

>>7622396
looks broken but "rule of cool" and composition is more important. swords look weird at that angle

When you guys are drawing digitally do you often or ever use the precision mode? I've had a medium intuos pro for a little bit now but i've really been struggling to get comfortable with it compared to trad and so i've not been drawing with it much. I have a 24 inch monitor and to get consistent and better controlled lines, i either have to zoom in such that the subject i'm drawing takes up the whole screen or more, or i use precision mode set to be as close to 1to1 scale as it can get. Both of these have the desired effect of making me use the entire tablet surface area but I for one hate drawing so zoomed in as instead of having the whole subject in mind and visible im ultra magnified on some small part of them going piece by piece, like a person's forearm, then their bicep, then their shoulder, etc. and with precision mode it feels like i might be handicapping my ability to use the tablet and get properly comfortable with it, like only ever riding a bike with training wheels. If i do neither and just let my subject take up a visually comfortable but smallish portion of the screen, my fingers get ultra cramped and sore cause i end up trying to draw in such a small section with a high precision line control that if i were doing it trad i'd be drawing art for ants. So please, If you got any advice that'd help, namely what you're experience has been like/is when drawing digitally so i have a general expectation of what "proper" tablet use looks and feels like so i can just do that till this shit gets comfortable.

>>7622399
Thanks

I don't get it, why is this artist so good at faces, backgrounds, and color, but when it comes to body construction, it suddenly looks so /beg/?

Why don't janitors prune threads about gaming social media? They have absolutely nothing to do with visual art.

>>7610694
is ok but the hair has a visible lack of work compared to the rest of the things on the drawings, looks weird. Is like you only make the silhouette and put random shit on top some times.

>>7614539
no he's just retarded, a proper guy should answer you on hours or a lest 1-2 days if they are really super busy or offline for personal reasons, and tell you immediately if they can work or if they can't and would prefer to do it on another date. Of course if you are asking to random guys that dont have any or zero previous commission works they probably take the shit like a hobbie in a non professional way. But yeah there is a lot of unprofessional people out there.

>>7615907
is ok you are just lacking some type of form understanding because you are still learning, you just need to draw more and draw more shapes and practice more, eventually you will get the hand on how to make the things look better on their shapes and to be consistent on the style. It looks weird also because of that last thing, you are putting different kind of work on different parts of the drawing and it's visibly evident, like the overworked wings, but the lack of work and thinking on the clothes, of the anatomy of the face-feets vs the anatomy of the core body, the brush work of the face vs the hair work, etc.

>>7623528
you mean why people focus on some things and not others in order to produce the image as a whole more quickly? idk bro

>>7621293
If you want to work exclusively on drawing. A display feels far more intuitive than a tablet, of course. Hand-eye coordination is easier, since you're actually looking at your hands using your eyes.For references you can just place the image into your canvas and scale them down. Tutorials you'll have to grab a sketchbook and pencil and practice them in your spare time.
I can see the second monitor being useful for drawing, as you mentioned. Not speaking from experience but I can imagine that it has much more utilities outside of drawing as well.
Which would you rather?
>Ipad to exclusively focus on drawing
>Monitors that can assist with drawing and have utility beyond drawing

What was that other famous artist like Bridgman but had really weird gestures and rendering in all of his anatomy?

>>7623528
It's all dependant on what the artist chooses to focus on. Example: You can focus solely on developing your skills in lineart and anatomy, but not spend any time learning how to color or create backgrounds.
>You could also spend your whole art career drawing from reference and never from the imagination.

Where can I find a 3d model of a human I can set in a certain pose?
Female would be best.

what is this style of shading or whatever called

>>7623767
Burne Hogarth

I'm sick of being a loser. Why shouldn't I draw anime girls?

>>7624234
do it on the side :)

How important are smooth lines? It always takes me ages to do digital art because I fixate on keeping the lines smooth when it would go so much faster if I didn't.

>>7624398
Doesn't matter that much unless you want the very clean look. Zoom in on some art you like and you'll see how most of the line art isn't actually that clean.
If you want very clean lines, drawing with vector lines is more efficient because you can easily adjust them. Higher resolution helps too, being a couple pixels off is less important when there are way more pixels.

>>7623528
usually they trace 3d models and dont really understand bodies very well, picrelated is another japanese artist who does it and shows the models in speedpaints.

recreating others' images I admire is my favorite thing besides making original art. I love art itself and I like trying to better understand decisions an artist might have made, and it's like taking a journey through their work. I hate studying and I give up after 30 minutes to 2 hours of drawing from books and anything that's more quantity > quality, but I can spend hours and hours reproducing. What can I try doing to soak up more information while doing this since I realize its inefficient? Would I be better off only replicating the part that captures my attention and doing this for many different pieces? I'm not trying to "git gud" quickly and I know everyone has a different path, but I don't know how to incorporate more deliberate thought into this.

>>7624428
>That reflection on the plate
looool

>>7624114
Art noveau?

Have any of you ever been in an art study where you're just not really feeling it?

>>7625457
Is it really an art study if your enjoying yourself?

what do you really do in a master study? study means to pay close attention... but to what? i need examples pls

>>7622262
the sticky should be just a reupload of that video in an unskippable format that you have to watch in its entirety before you can post, including before coming back after any time you get banned by posting on this board.

>>7623528
Probably using himself as a reference for the pose and not properly adjusting it

>>7624114
Old enough that it's probably gouache but when converted into print work it looks different.
I don't think there's a specific non-esoteric term for it, it's just a vintage form of what we'd call cel shading done in trad media and then crunched through the reproduction process.

>>7624398
You need to do dedicated line quality practice. Slap a ruler on your tablet and draw a line using it with the stabilizer completely off. Then increase the stabilizer just until the shakiness goes away. Now any wobble you see is your own, which can be due to your posture/setup fucking your range of motion.

>>7624896
If you insist on doing that then just make sure you mix in life drawing (sit outside and draw things, or random objects in your NEET cave, or finally get an excuse to buy an anime figurine) as well as art you know is good and like in a visual sense but not a subject sense.
Studying books that are more about seeing like an artist rather than loomis-style exercises may help you further. Drawing on The Right Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards may be your speed, take a look (some people hate it, some love it.)

>>7625889
If you don't care about how the person actually made the work you are master-studying then pick a different artist or artpiece. Consider that it's called a MASTER study for a reason: If you wouldn't bow your head to the artist in a dojo and call him Master then it's the wrong person.

Also if you have a mental block because you're afraid that learning how he does it will kill his art in your eye, ask yourself why you feel the need to be entertained by other things being unknown mystery boxes rather than seeing the wonder that comes from understanding and learning.

How do I stop thinking about anime girls? can you give me some tips?

seriously, I really want to quit. I don't want to have a casual conversation with someone and suddenly bring up anime girls as a tongue slip, they'd think I'm a weirdo or something

>>7625889
copy it as exactly as possible

>>7601269
writing is easy and fast at least when compared to drawing and other arts. Just read nigga

Why is drawing the focus of this board? Is it because other artforms overlap too much with graphic design? I'm not bothered by it, just curious.

>>7627391
Well for 3DCGI you have >>>/3/
For graphic design, >>>/gd/
Miniature and model painting is a combo of >>>/tg/
and >>>/toy/
Some forms of physical art, like metalworking and wood carving are more >>>/diy/
Or if they incorporate electronics or bizarre digital methods (such as vector art or AI) >>>/g/

Drawing is the most common artform because of how accessible pencils/pens and paper are.
Digital drawing, painting, and animation costs very little, and gets cheaper all the time.
Trad painting is not much further behind. Other common trad materials and methods like trad animation, markers, pastels and cel art occasionally have threads here or get talked about in the generals, but they're rare.

Beyond that, non-graphic design things like vector art, printmaking, decoupage, encaustic, pixel art, paint pouring, and trad sculpture are somewhat more esoteric and specific. Dedicated forums, groups, etc are more likely to have good info for those than anonymous imageboards.

Can anybody recommend some movies to play while you're making your art? Movies that are light on plot visually striking.

>>7628063
>light on plot visually striking
Don't you mean "heavy on plot, light on visuals and lots of words" so you're able to listen while looking at your artwork?

>>7628069
I don't want to get sucked into the machinations of the plot, I just want to have something on in the background and maybe look up once in a while ton see something unusual or inspiring.

I read FWAP twice in like the span of 3 hours and now my eyeballs are sore.
Im only 21, so why am I like this? How do I prevent this pain?

Drawing while I'm in a bad mood makes me dwell on the bad thoughts even more. Anyone else experience this?

>>7629065
from another thread but I'll ask here too

How do I ask my favorite artist out on a real life date? Here is a drawing of hers. Do I have a chance and how do I ask?

>>7629418
Go on a drawing date. Go to the art museum or someplace scenic. Make it seem like you were doing it anyway, and you just wondering if she wanted to come along. Alternately, draw her tonguing your butthole and show it to her.

>>7601083 (OP)
how in the god damn fuck do I render
im getting hard filtered HELP

>>7601083 (OP)
How to achieve this variety of color (specially looking ethereal) on the skin?

>>7629920
It’s kind of complicated to explain because there’s many ways to do it. It helps if you understand what’s actually going on. The colors have a vibrating effect because they don’t break the value structure but have different hues. There’s also specks of very contrasting color. Take a look at the cape. While there are various kinds of reds, the most striking parts are the contrasting blues and purples. Contrasting and layered hues are used everywhere in the piece. You’ll also note that the local colors are mostly desaturated so the little specks of purple or blue or green or (…) stand out more.

Picrel is something I did recently when bored, I was trying to make an old sketch more interesting. It’s not that great, but I added some more color variation. I brushed opposing hues in the highlights (off-white greens can make really good highlight colors) and some in the shadows. The “rainbowy” effect in other parts was a brush with the random-color jitter turned on. Little specks of pure color (like the red on the cheek) can be very effective to make things look more interesting, though I didn’t use it much here. You can also use layer modes (like Hue) to make adding these colors easier.

Krenz calls these “hidden colors”. He describes them in great detail in the latter half here:
https://asgg.notion.site/Color-pt4-2957b70a2c044376b586c093a33252b6
I recommend reading other notes of his course to understand. Also Marco Bucci uses this a lot so check out his YT.

>>7630307
Thank you so much! I will make sure to check both

I draw 40 hours a week and do college on the side. I want to start taking more art courses per semester to speed up my progress. To people who went to college while drawing, how many classes did you take per semester?

I stole art from a famous artist like 2 years ago. People are still trying to find me, dox me, and they attribute their art to me. How do I fix this?

>>7631596
Return the slab.
Oh wait, you mean you copied something right? Just don't give a fuck, it was years ago who cares what some mentally ill obsessives thing? You gonna let some nodraws and crabs beat you into the mud?

>Know i make a specific mistake all the time
>Start drawing, make same mistake dont notice it
>Flip canvas, still dont see it.
>Return hours later to see the mistake
How do i stop making the same mistakes over and over again!? Or at the minimum how so i start noticing them immediately instead of needing multiple hours away from my piece???

What do I even start with
I want to get better at art and read the ic guide but I don't understand what it means by start drawing values of an eye rather than an eye. like coloring?
i am completely lost because Im starting from complete scratch
everything is all over the place, one day i pick up anatomy and ten seconds later im doing something eklse because im a dumb shit who has no idea what to start with
is there some kind of plan or guideline or something i should follow ? what the fuck?

>>7629711
the only issue with this is youre not fucking blending, blend it, use the blending brush, blend it

>>7604423
He was hyper smart and Verrocchio gave him a good foundation.

what are you gonna do if you are most hated artist on entire internet?

>>7631908
relish knowing the fact that there's someone more hated than me somewhere

How do you draw in the summer without overheating? I can't get a single thing done without dropping sweat all over the pages I'm drawing.

How does one accept that getting good takes hard work? I've tried and quit a bunch of different creative activities because I get intimidated by the amount of effort it takes to be decent. I wouldn't mind a challenge but I still want it to be fun and not have it feel a waste of my time.
Also how do you stop overexerting yourself within the initial 1-2 weeks of starting a new creative hobby and then eventually burning out. The excitement makes me lose track of time and I end up spending hours for a few days and then quit.
The longest I have ever kept up a habit of drawing was about 3 months. I guess part of what helped was having a journal where I'd review my work within an hour or so and then the next day.

I want to get 3d forms and gestures well. When i observe I am unable to get clear gesutres with 3d feels that are appealing.
What to do?

what is a howie

>>7633448
howie doin' haha

What’s the point of art when 99% of is mostly mundane trash without any significance or deep meaning?

>>7633448
They all ask what howie is, but no one asks how howie is :(

How come I've never seen anyone recommend putting your work through Photoshop's camera raw filters once you're done with it?

>>7633448
Guy who - instead of drawing - has to ask "How do I ... ?" ad infinitum.

>>7634259
thank you.

How do I increase the opacity of acrylics? I often find that I have to apply multiple layers to get the color down. Also, I have to wait for each layer to dry, otherwise the upper coat sometimes wipes away the lower. I do prime my surfaces but maybe there's a primer that works really well with acrylic?

Related: how do I do very fine brushstrokes? I have small brushes, but unless I thoroughly coat the brush (increasing the effective thickness), I don't get enough paint down to make the stroke clear.

>>7635041
Buy better paint. Cheap paint sucks ass, acrylics especially.

What's the best way to set up the perspective for extreme angles like graffiti street art usually does (I wish I had a better example off the top of my head but this is the best I can think of right now)? My attempts usually end up looking too forshortened or badly proportioned.

How do I meet weird outsider beginner artist who I can farm for social media likes? I don't care what they draw like.

>>7635047
Just make sure the things closest to the viewer are larger than the things furthest away from the viewer

does this sort of ribcage-pelvis approximation have any kind of name to look up on the internet? made this quick on paint after seeing the setup on someone else's sketchbook a while back

What's that really simple clock/productivity timer that people have on their desktop? My search ends up giving me pomodoro sites and mobile apps. It's the one where a bar turns red and tells you to go back to work.

>>7635836
https://neilblr.com/post/58757345346

How do I function without drawing anime girls? I go through my whole work day stressed and horny as fuck , then I get home and its a herculean struggle to contribute slightly to my future and draw anime girls

>>7635045
Thanks, I'll try that. I've been working with 2oz Apple Barrel / Craft Smart bottles-- lots of colors, cheap as chips. I do get bright results. I've had some artwork on the wall in direct sun for years-- the color remains vivid. But the painting process itself always requires a lot of layering effort.

What board is the best to talk about sculpting?

>>7636990
the /trad/ thread here. you could make a new sculpting general, only need a post every day to two to stay alive
or the Work In Progress thread on /tg/
/diy/ talks about it sometimes too

Is it worth learning Blender on the side if you're just a huge coomer at heart? That's the only reason I started drawing desu besides wanting to make manga someday. Is it easier to learn Blender or 3D animation in general if you can already draw?

I'm wondering how to get these kinds of artifacts. They're consistently in shaded areas and present in darker lines. So I can only assume that these were deliberate. If so, how can I achieve this affect with a noise overlay?

>>7601083 (OP)
What do you guys think about political art? I got approached by my doctor today for some art to hang around his clinic.
But, he wants the art based on the Israel/Palestine conflict. I already been paid beforehand, so I'm just wondering how I should approach it.

>>7633448
https://warosu.org/ic/?task=search&ghost=&search_text=howie

>>7637480
that is quite literally just a noise overlay. did you even try it yourself or am i misinterpreting your question

what materials does Michael Mentler (likely) use for these sketchbook drawings? I know technique/knowledge is more important and certain materials aren't magically going to make your work good, but I do like the aesthetic and would like to incorporate it into my drawings.

>>7637441
Anyone?

This is a really weird question, hoping I word this right:

I'm wondering if anyone else has an issue with focusing while drawing— not the mental act of focusing but actually LOOKING at their drawing as they draw. I find that I get really bad blinders on as a draw, even when I'm not zoomed all the way in, as I draw I can only "see" so much of the image and it's really easy for me to lose sense of proportionality and harmony. Anyone else experience this or find good solutions?

>>7638190
Construction/gesture stuff, don't bury your head in the monitor.
Also, draw on a grey not white canvas.

I can't stand the way that 95% of people speak on /ic/ nowadays. Just a catalog of accepted phrases, valley girlisms or ebonics and bare any constructive criticism.

Where do I go that's not filled with these people?

>>7638321
Discord I guess?

4chan's format really doesn't work well for critique, it's not (just) the people.

>>7637791
From the info in his instagram posts he's always testing out different materials, but this article said:
>The drawings are done in a handmade sketchbook made with French's Speckletone 100lb Cover. He uses Koh-l-noor Nexus rollerball pens that comes in a variety of earth tones. They also can be blended with a marker blender or acetone to create a wash effect. The lights and highlights are done with a CarbOthello pastel pencil.
https://www.artistsnetwork.com/art-mediums/drawing/drawing-basics-one-mans-sketchbook/

>>7637305
Blender can help a lot, it's worth trying it out. Most people get overwhelmed by the UI and the technical stuff. You can google pretty much and question if you get stuck so it's not too hard these days. Knowing how to draw won't help that much.

>>7638451
you're a godsend. thanks, anon.

>>7635887
Late response but thanks a lot anon, this has actually gotten me to draw for longer because I want to fill the timer and it's not too aggressive. Appreciate it.

do the morpho books just mog the michael hampton books or is it not a waste of time to work on both?

>>7638954
I don't have direct experience with the Morpho books, but I would say that the single best thing you could do is look through the books *yourself* in order to understand their differences. you can readily find descriptions of the books online, and sections of the pages of the books themselves, but you can even find (here and elsewhere) pdfs of the entire books for free. I would recommend getting your hand on them, seeing what they claim to facilitate and what you see on the pages in terms of drawings, and consider which of the two - or whether both - are appealing to you.

Complete /beg/ here, I see advice in a lot of courses to have a sloped surface to draw on so that perspective doesn't fuck with the result (and ergonomics and whatever). I have a bigass like 22x25 sketchpad board I dug out of storage from when my mom was in university, and it feels like it'd be fun to work on 18x24ish newsprint and stuff as I'm learning; are there any decent cheap like, desktop easel thingies or other reasonable ways to mount something that size or am I gonna have to build something/put it on a chair or whatever? I'm vaguely surprised this board doesn't have some kind of like battlestation general equivalent so I can see what setups look like for people who work traditionally.

>>7639247
It depends on what you mean by "cheap", but most new art horses/art benches on the cheaper end are over $100. You could perhaps look for used ones, but I'm not sure exactly where you'd most likely have success. I have a big 18x24 newsprint pad and I just prop it up on my chair and have the upper portion rest on my desk at an angle. If you have some woodworking skills you could probably make one yourself, but whether you'd even want to put the time into that I have no idea.

>>7639265
Honestly the solution i had in mind was big ol cardboard triangular prism with a lip at the bottom on top of my desk lol, I'll see if I can make a chair work first though yeah thank u

Is there some kind of completely free AI that can be send artbooks, memorize their entire contents, and be able to use the book's knowledge to analyze my mistakes in drawing or answer questions and tell me what I need to improve, advicing me?

>>7639282
to my knowledge, no. you can get a fairways there with a free ChatGPT or Claude account, but I use the former quite a bit with a free account and it has obvious limitations with the amount of information it can "grap" from its system at any given time.

>>7638954
the morpho books have hardly any instruction, they are more for reference

I'm a hideous retarded woman and I am unable to get an art related job, what am I supposed to do? I'm at a loss.

>>7639715
Vtuber? Unless you're not confident in your voice either.

>>7639715
>I'm a hideous retarded woman
for what it's worth, I would ask you to try to mitigate that sort of negative self-talk. I do it habitually myself, but that's more so speaking to myself and not choosing what to write online (or elsewhere). if a loved one were in your situation, you would not say such things about them, so try not to talk to yourself in that way.

that aside, I would ask if you could be specific in what sort of art-related jobs you've tried to get and/or which ones you would be open to getting.

Digital art brainlet here, starting CSP after Procreate on ipad, holy hell is everything confusing even for applying flat colors.
Procreate, you just drag and drop the color you want to a selection, everything's done. But with CSP, it seems you either use the fill bucket tool that paints over your lineart or have to apply magic wand bullshit.

What's the most efficient way of painting in CSP?

>>7639875
Just brush it in manually.

>>7639875
just set your lineart layer/folder as a reference layer (click the lighthouse while its selected) then make a new layer for flat colors and put it below the lineart layer

are there any gesture drawing tutorials that are simpler than whats in the vilppu drawing manual? i feel like an actual retard, i can sort of figure out the head and neck rhythm but then he throws in all these extra lines and my tiny ass brain explodes. is there anything that introduces shit line by line

>>7640120
Oh wow, that was easy. Thanks.

>>7640130
Brent Eviston's stuff is the simplest

>>7640130
Gesture is the ultimate /beg/ trap just ignore it. I’ve never seen someone achieve anything good by trying to do gesture first.
Learn how to just draw the fucking thing first, and as you get better you might find something like gesture useful while sketching.

Best way/tips to into drawing on a tablet?
I bought one a year or two ago, but every time I try drawing on it I just get BTFO'd by the lack of keyboard shortcuts and scurry my way back to MS Paint...

How do I stop procrastinating?
I spend all day thinking about anime girls but when it comes down right to it, I can't draw them.

>>7641324
idk what your schedule is like, but if you set out to do something sooner rather than later in the day, you're more likely to accomplish it. even if it's just 15-30 minutes, try to do it first thing in the morning/when you wake up. if you have enough restraint, just have your images locally on your computer so you can open them without the need of the internet; if you must, turn off your internet temporarily.

>>7641324
thinking about doing stuff it tricks you brain into thinking you've actually done stuff which is enough to satisfy the desire. daydreams are all sunshine and rainbows, so it's much easier than the reality of drawing which can be difficult and frustrating.
the trick is to not think about it too much and actually do stuff. kinda hard, so just do it first thing in the morning while you have more energy to do things.
set aside some time and just sit at your desk and don't let yourself do anything else other than draw. after 5-10 minutes, the boredom will make you want to draw if that's all you're allowed to do. once you get started, it shouldn't;t be as hard to keep going.

>>7609370
Anyone have advice on how to effectively study and keep at it with ADHD? I finally got prescribed some medicine against it and for me it has an around 3 hour long effect of calmness and tranquillity. For now its only once daily so how do i make the most of this time?
Drawing from imagination is something i specifically want to train.
I tried properly studying many times before but it never went anywhere and i got burned out after a week anyways but now i have a weapon to fight it.


Also how do i disable Krita's rotation snapping? I use touch and when i rotate the image a little it just jitters between the angle it wants to snap to and where i want it to be.

How do get good with this book? Been going back and fourth with drawing the figure but I feel like I'm not going any where.

>>7641215
just buy a bluetooth mini keyboard, most tablet apps support them

>>7641324
That's classic resistance, it'll pop up for anything you want to do that isn't apart of your natural habits. Just like the others said you have to stop thinking about why you can't do something and just do it. "Nothing to it but to do it" When I used to work out it had to be first thing in the morning and I had to get out of my house as soon as possible because my mind would trick me into staying in then torture me for staying in instead of working out. It's kind of the same with drawing, you need to RUN to draw not allowing the thoughts to cloud your judgement or offer up a better distraction. It doesn't matter how bad you start up as well, tell yourself you're warming up, or the first drawing will always be bad or something to keep you going and actually have a minimum time limit.

>>7601083 (OP)
anyone know an item to buy to make the tablet less slippery? Like a felt nib or a paperlike cover?
I have a wacom one screenless
I physically cannot do slow movements because it just slides around so much
Dunno if that's a muscle memory thing that I'll train overtime or a 40$ tablet thing but you know

>>7637565
I'm aware that there is a noise overlay. Again, I'm referring to the artifacting within the noise overlay. I've tried it and didn't get nearly the same results. However, I think I might've found some brushes and materials that could help better achieve that effect.

>>7642336
An actual piece of paper works.

>>7642336
There are various stands available on Amazon, search up "Universal tablet stand." You might be able to find some universal arm stands too.

How do I cope with the fact that I’ll never have a loving, loyal collab partner?

>start an artwork
>get disinterested during the sketch phase
>Or get frustrated with my art in the coloring/rendering phase
>quit
Why am I like this?

>>7643477
>Why am I like this?
because it's not coming out the way it looks in your head and you don't realize that you have to make the bad ones before you make the good ones. You can even make it again in the future to show progress. Things like this is literally why the term "Trust the process" exists

Greetings from /diy/

I offered my services to an older lady who may need small handyman work done and might have ended up in a ridiculous situation.

Let’s say you’re an elderly lady with God’s clock ticking. And you just buried your 97 year old mother, who happened to be a mildly well known artist-photographer, especially in the 70s. And now you want to honor her legacy, but also maybe make a few bucks because social security doesn’t pay shit. And you have a storage unit full of artwork and photo prints and negatives and film. And also your stepdad wrote for Star Trek a bit.

What would one recommend doing? I googled the lady’s name and some of the larger paintings are listed online from resellers asking like $15k+ and photo prints $1000-$2000

I have no clue what to tell her. I thought I would be changing an outlet or some shit.

>>7643487
I might try to “display” the one with the lifeguard shack in my living room. She said a lot of IR film. But then there’s color nature stuff.

>>7643489
There’s a couple just like this listed for $15k and $18k on gallery sites. She was like “Yea I sold a bunch of them for like $200ea right when she passed because I was so sad and not thinking right”

I feel bad for her. I’m not even trying to make money, I’ll help her haul some stuff to the gallery because I think she wants to honor her mother’s legacy and get it into places where people can appreciate it instead of a storage unit, and that’s pretty noble.

>>7639715
If you're hideous and retarded you can try to get sympathy points from people the marks that believe in "help your women artists!"

I do agree with >>7639775 self talk like that really stresses you out which is tiring, especially when you realize that anyone can have a fetish for anything. Me being a guy I usually tell other guys that you can remind them of their dad, brother or positive male role model in life same goes for girls. I know cooming and art has ruined my taste for conventionally attractive women and I usually go for unique women- not as far as hideous but I've seen absolute monstrous women with kids.

Who do I follow to keep up on the latest art news and trends?

>>7642048
The purpose of that book is to make you aware of better books that are available if you want to improve.

How do I get a clue about whose a chubby artist? Like kinda fat but not obese.
Are there any indicators in their handwriting that might give it away?

Is there a way to stop comparing too much with others...?
I know what I can and can't do, but I'm never finishing anything because I feel like I have to get better before I can even try to do an illustration. I know my behavior is stupid but I have 0 self confidence and feel like a failure because Im just doodling or studying, never taking the time to actually finish anything. And I know it's because I feel like it wont be as good or as original as I want it to be. I know I'm wrong. Does someone as a solution for that ? Thank you.

>>7644269
>I'm never finishing anything because I feel like I have to get better before I can even try to do an illustration.
How are you ever going to learn to finish an illustration if you never try it?

People who focus solely on studies atrophy the creative part of their brain. When they finally get "good enough" to make an illustration, they find they can only copy and know nothing about image composition, storytelling, or concepting.

Better to get over yourself and draw even though your skill is low right now. Train all your creative muscles along with studies. Save your work and compare it to yourself in a few months, you'll see improvement. Stop comparing to others. They don't matter.

>>7644320
>How are you ever going to learn to finish an illustration if you never try it?

I've never really saw things that way. Thank you for your input, it helps.

>>7643487
>>7643489
>>7643493
I have no idea, but this might be worth a thread actually. the problem is that there won't be any real critique going on so the fit is kinda awkward in /ic/. I'd love to take a look at the photos and artworks while you take suggestions on what to do or how to open a gallery event

How do i stop using twitter? I get bare any engagements but i still use it.

>>7645227
try getting your validation from real friends
or from anonymous message boards

which book is this from?

>>7645528
肖玮春 - 人体结构原理与绘画教学
Xiao Weichun - Human Anatomy For Artists

>>7601083 (OP)
Is the New Master's Academy worth the full year price, if you want to learn how to draw traditionally? Has anyone ever tried it?

>>7645535
Like most sites, 90% of the stuff is trash. Random artists no one has heard of as instructors, half finished courses. They like to pump up the number of courses to make it seem like a better deal. Lots of live classes (lots of them just re-hashes of old courses) to make you fear missing out, constant discounts like all web marketing slop.
That said, some instructors and courses are very good (Vilppu, Steve Huston, Rey Bustos, Bill Perkins). You can pirate a lot of them. Only worth paying if you want the extra resources (photo reference, 3d models), the courses you want hasn't been ripped, or you want personal feedback from the instructors (much more useful when you are decently skilled or are struggling). Seeing other students work getting critiqued can be useful too since you'll make similar mistakes. The course guide and learning paths are neat, half the paths are unfinished though.
There's enough free stuff on YouTube you can watch to see if you like a certain course or instructor. You can get a complete refund within the first 7 days (as long as you don't watch too many videos). So you can try it out before you commit. Spending some money might make you take learning to draw more seriously.

>>7645548
Alright, thank you!

>>7645531
Thanks anon.

Really stupid question but hey guys, CSP user here, I've noticed my left hand has started getting too cramped up from frequently pressing keyboard shortcuts, does anyone know if there's a way to have a little floating window or something I can move around with tools from the sidebar? picrel is kinda what I mean :) thanks. I've tried looking it up but all the results aren't what I'm looking for and it's kinda overwhelming me lol

>>7646572
N...nevermind... all I had to do was drag and drop them... I found out I had them locked this whole time which is why it never worked for me........

How long are people willing to wait for a comission? I want to start doing comissions soon but I have a full-time job and can only draw on the weekends, sometimes not even that. If I were to get like 5 comms right now I would only finish them all next month at best.

How do you get the discipline to stop doing endless exercises do a finished piece, and fix your life?

>>7647404
unfortunately there's no foolproof method, but you can increase the likelihood of being disciplined by understanding your "trigger" or what makes/where you tend to waste time and setting up your immediate environment such that those things become less likely. e.g., if you work at your desk when you draw/paint and you have your computer and browser on, often cutting in between your art time by browsing this or that site, set up applications which block those sites or just turn off your internet temporarily; if you work trad, you can get an easel/desk area with no electronics (if possible), including putting your phone in another room. it's autistic, sure, but you have to take what you can get and try to build upon that; hoping for perfection/peak discipline (at least right away) is unrealistic and only going to lead to counter-productive feelings. something else you can do is leave visible signs telling you what you need to do, namely a sort of to-do list. I actually have a monthly to-do list with broader things I want to get done/do every day and individual events, and then a daily to-do list I try to write for the *next* day *before* I go to bed and leave it on my desk so I see it first thing in the morning. you can also utilize sticky notes, phone notifications (Google Calendar, for example), etc. the more routine you have, and the more you externalize what you have to do, the easier it is to actualize them; they're not just a jumbled mess floating in your head.

>>7646913
Some people let themselves get scammed for years hoping to finally see their commissions get worked on. If you have understanding commissioners I think they can accept your situation as long as you update them to keep them happy. Results may of course vary but A month is an understandable turnaround depending on workload

>>7624896
>I realize its inefficient?
Did some westoid influencer spread this meme? Increasing your cognitive resolution is necessary to get good and there is no way to do this without spending a large number of hours soaking up every part of an image made by a good artist.

>>7646913
Let them know first and let them decide. As long as you are upfront and honest about it, there should be any problems. Not uncommon for people to wait many months. If stuff happens and you know that you'll never finish it, just refund them.

How do you forget a best friend who doesn't want to draw anymore It all hurts so bad

How is he so fast?

>>7649871
It really doesn't take that long to do drawings like this. Couple hours tops.

I'm trying to get back into drawing and that means going back to the foundations. That said, I'm following the curriculum on New Masters Academy and I'm doing the assignments but my finished works look kind of ass.

Do I just move on? I'm thinking that I have a whole life time to improve but at the same time, I don't know if I'm crippling myself down the line.

I'm trying to get back into drawing and that means going back to the foundations. That said, I'm following the curriculum on New Masters Academy and I'm doing the assignments but my finished works look kind of ass.

Do I just move on and go to the next week of assignments/videos? I'm thinking that I have a whole life time to improve but at the same time, I don't know if I'm crippling myself down the line.

>>7650064
>I'm doing the assignments but my finished works look kind of ass.
>Do I just move on?
could you go into a bit more detail about your approach? say, how many times you watch the videos, how precisely you follow the assignment instructions, how many times you do said assignments? how many times, if any, you do them with different subjects, etc? and could you show some of your work? which course(s) are you currently working through?

>>7642048
Anyone got any advice?

>>7650066
>could you go into a bit more detail about your approach? say, how many times you watch the videos
I watch the videos at 1.25x speed to get an idea of what's happening. I rewatch it, follow what the instructor is doing, pausing as needed.

>how precisely you follow the assignment instructions, how many times you do said assignments?
I normally just count the follow-along as the assignment since it's basically the same thing besides the difference in perspective. For example, if they're doing a still life, I'm using the same reference.

>and could you show some of your work? which course(s) are you currently working through?
I'm sort of switching between different courses since I'm on break and I have a lot of free time but I'm currently doing Fundamentals of Drawing and Perspective and Dynamic Sketching. For Dynamic Sketching, I'm doing my own thing for the assignments and not just following along. Here's something from Week 2 of Fundamentals of Drawing and Perspective.

>>7650092
thanks for all that.
>I watch the videos at 1.25x speed to get an idea of what's happening. I rewatch it, follow what the instructor is doing, pausing as needed.
sounds fine to me
>I normally just count the follow-along as the assignment since it's basically the same thing besides the difference in perspective. For example, if they're doing a still life, I'm using the same reference.
I don't think there's anything wrong with drawing the same reference as the demo, but *also* drawing a similar but different reference forces you to think a little bit more about the concepts taught in the particular video/lesson. so, personally, I would recommend either doing one of the demo reference and one slightly different reference you've found yourself (or taken, if you're so inclined); or just doing the latter, again, forcing you to think a bit more about the content.
>I'm sort of switching between different courses since I'm on break
idk what all your strengths or weaknesses are, which fundamentals need more or less focus, but as a general rule I would suggest minimizing how much you jump from one course to the next without finishing them (maybe I'm understanding "I'm sort of switching between different courses" incorrectly, but that's how it reads to me.) obviously if you find a course or teacher that is totally incoherent and/or the content is not particularly relevant to you, by all means; or if you're most of the way done and you see the remaining lessons/videos and see they're not really relevant to you, again, do what you must - but those are very particular circumstances. (1/2)

>>7650120
>For Dynamic Sketching, I'm doing my own thing for the assignments and not just following along
this is a little unclear/hard to square given what you said earlier about using the same reference. are you saying that with Dynamic Sketching you're using your own references, you're loosely following the instruction, something else?
>Here's something from Week 2 of Fundamentals of Drawing and Perspective
haven't gone through the course myself, but on the face of it those drawings don't look particularly bad, quite the opposite in fact. at any rate, you said this earlier:
>I'm doing the assignments but my finished works look kind of ass
unless you happen to be very perceptive as it relates to drawing/art and/or have a very good teacher, respectfully, it's naive to assume that with minimal instruction and practice you're suddenly going to start drawing nothing but great pieces. it's more realistic to not start drawing well from even a good course, but less poorly than you used to. think about it like you're working your way to becoming less shit: eventually, with enough effort and proper (enough) instruction, you'll reach that threshold where you're producing mostly good work, even if 49% is shit. use these courses to gauge your weaknesses, and work towards reducing their prominence, and eventually switching their polarity, if you will. (2/2)

>>7650120
First of all, I appreciate the time you took to write your response. Thank you.

>I don't think there's anything wrong with drawing the same reference as the demo, but *also* drawing a similar but different reference forces you to think a little bit more about the concepts taught in the particular video/lesson. so, personally, I would recommend either doing one of the demo reference and one slightly different reference you've found yourself (or taken, if you're so inclined); or just doing the latter, again, forcing you to think a bit more about the content.
Yeah, I could definitely do this for extra practice to drill stuff in without all the hand-holding.

>idk what all your strengths or weaknesses are, which fundamentals need more or less focus, but as a general rule I would suggest minimizing how much you jump from one course to the next without finishing them (maybe I'm understanding "I'm sort of switching between different courses" incorrectly, but that's how it reads to me.)
Apologies if I was unclear. I'm switching between different courses because I have a lot of free time since I'm currently on break. So for instance, I could probably knock out one week of assignments in a particular course in one day so I'm switching between courses to instead spread things out. In this case, I would do like 1/3 of all assignments from Fundamentals of Drawing and Perspective and 1/3 of all assignments from Dynamic Sketching (both from a particular week) in a day. I hope that makes more sense.

>>7650127
>this is a little unclear/hard to square given what you said earlier about using the same reference. are you saying that with Dynamic Sketching you're using your own references, you're loosely following the instruction, something else?
I'm watching the videos and then I'm loosely following the instructions to do the assignment. For example, I'm on Week 2 of Dynamic Sketching and I'm just drawing organic forms.

(1/2)

>>7642048
Draw everything in the book. Use the instructions to draw the characters on the cover. Make your own characters. Draw scenes in perspective with characters. Use the principles taught to draw people from life. Be flexible and creative with what it teaches.

>>7650127
>unless you happen to be very perceptive as it relates to drawing/art and/or have a very good teacher, respectfully, it's naive to assume that with minimal instruction and practice you're suddenly going to start drawing nothing but great pieces. it's more realistic to not start drawing well from even a good course, but less poorly than you used to. think about it like you're working your way to becoming less shit: eventually, with enough effort and proper (enough) instruction, you'll reach that threshold where you're producing mostly good work, even if 49% is shit.
Got it, I'm doing the assignments as instructed and I'm doing the best I can. Obviously, my stuff is going to be worse than the instructor who has years more experience than me but I want to be careful that I'm not rushing things. It feels weird moving on to the next week's stuff but I do have a lifetime to improve I suppose.

(2/2)

>>7650159
>>7650182
>Apologies if I was unclear. I'm switching between different courses because I have a lot of free time since I'm currently on break. So for instance, I could probably knock out one week of assignments in a particular course in one day so I'm switching between courses to instead spread things out. In this case, I would do like 1/3 of all assignments from Fundamentals of Drawing and Perspective and 1/3 of all assignments from Dynamic Sketching (both from a particular week) in a day. I hope that makes more sense.
yes, I think I understand you now. it's not that you're only doing a portion of a course then dropping it entirely, you're just doing a portion of multiple different courses within a certain timeframe.
>I'm watching the videos and then I'm loosely following the instructions to do the assignment. For example, I'm on Week 2 of Dynamic Sketching and I'm just drawing organic forms.
well as long as you're more or less following the core of the instruction, I assume that'd be fine.
>I'm doing the assignments as instructed and I'm doing the best I can
not to get too deep into the weeds, but in life in general that's really all we can do: do our best, assess how we're doing in the moment and afterwards, and try to improve upon our visible deficiencies. not saying that you are, but when artists lament about their struggles and where they wish they were, while psychologically understandable, it's not ultimately useful.
>It feels weird moving on to the next week
why is that, you think? you said you want to be careful of rushing, which is good, but do you think you are? though there is such a thing as taking too long on a lesson and getting diminishing returns. so maybe experiment a bit with your pace, see what works best.
>but I do have a lifetime to improve I suppose.
that's exactly right. people get too caught up in immediate success - again, somewhat understandable - but in most cases those who quickly reach great heights are... (1/2)

>>7650257
paying a pretty penny for schooling and/or have a great deal of free time on their hands - which most (adult) beginner artists simply don't have. it can be very hard to repeatedly buy into the idea that what matters is making a good effort today, and the next day, and the next day, and that in aggregate this will have great qualitative effects on your abilities, but if you can reach that ideal, or approximate it, more days than not, in 6 months time you'll look back and go "man, I'm so glad I put in that effort. let me see where I'm at in a year from now," and so on. granted, it was just a couple drawings, but it seems like you have enough of an eye to get very far in your studies, should you persist. so, as a final recommendation, I would say map out - on a google doc, on obsidian, whatever works for you - a plan, however loose or specific, something which you can reference should you have more moments of doubt - and you likely will. with it, you can remind yourself that to the extent that you do such and such (say, earnestly work through x many courses a year), that you're doing what you need to do and need not worry about your immediate shortcomings. that sort of thing has certainly helped me, but perhaps for you you can keep it purely mental and that'll work just fine. the main point is that you need that fundamental faith (if you don't like that term, exchange it with what you like), otherwise there'll be no motivation to continue. (2/2)

looking for artists who do harsh mignola-style facial shadows who aren't mike mignola, think darkest dungeon stuff

>>7650257
>yes, I think I understand you now. it's not that you're only doing a portion of a course then dropping it entirely, you're just doing a portion of multiple different courses within a certain timeframe.
Yeah, exactly. For example, Week 1's assignments for Dynamic Sketching was basically just drawing straight lines/arcs/waves and ellispes, etc. That's a pretty easy assignment and I didn't want to just grind it out all at once, which is why I'm doing some courses concurrently.

>why is that, you think? you said you want to be careful of rushing, which is good, but do you think you are?
I don't think I'm rushing per se but I think it just comes down to the objective fact that my stuff doesn't look as good as the instructor's so it feels weird to just move on. I just need to accept that I need more mileage.

>>7650258
>so, as a final recommendation, I would say map out - on a google doc, on obsidian, whatever works for you - a plan, however loose or specific, something which you can reference should you have more moments of doubt - and you likely will. with it, you can remind yourself that to the extent that you do such and such (say, earnestly work through x many courses a year), that you're doing what you need to do and need not worry about your immediate shortcomings.
Yeah, I'm already doing this. I'm glad that New Masters Academy has a whole curriculum so it's clear what I need to do.

Anyways, I appreciate your responses. I hope you get whatever you want on your art journey, anon. Let's keep on trying to improve.

Do good looking people draw better or worse?

>>7650281
conventional attractiveness has no causal role in one's artistic abilities

>>7650281
On average, probably better because of the halo effect and good genetics.

>>7650281
worse. their attraction often because a major part of their personality/why people like them, so they're normally less inclined to gain other skills like drawing.

As a pre/beg/, how do I make myself immune to cringe and embarrassment? I feel like I need to learn this skill as quickly as possible.

>>7652283
>how do I make myself immune to cringe and embarrassment?
>immune
that's a tall, perhaps impossible, ask. you're basically asking yourself how you can fully control your thoughts, which even "master" meditators don't seem to be capable of. that said, perhaps the best (natural) method for *reducing* the cringe/embarrassment you experience seeing your own art - and, presumably, you're talking about your own art - would simply be direct and repeated exposure. this can be aided with the idea/belief that ultimately this immediate uncomfortability is for the better. you're going to have good days and bad days, (relatively) better and worse drawings, but as long as you are able to realize, in different instances, improvement, you're on the right path.

is upgrading to win11 worth it? I wanna try the new mspaint for shits and giggles, but I've stubbornly been declining any and all updates windows has offered me lol, also I swear I heard somewhere that win11 had a bunch of bugs but I don't know if that still holds true, I not only use my pc for drawing but also for playing games so I'm concerned updating it might break any of my stuff.. anyone here that has recently upgraded to win11 and can share their experience? thanks. I'm also just curious about how different win11 is from 10 lol

Anybody ever ask a coworker or an acquaintance to pose for you? How did you go about doing it? Was it awkward?

>>7655089
Don't do this. Most people are too stupid to see it as a purely intellectual thing and will immediately see it with sexual connotations and take you to HR city.

The only time this will ever work out is if the person is already VERY good friends with you, and hangs out with you outside of work, such that you feel you almost don't even have to ask if they would do so.(rare)