is this book a scam? - /ic/ (#7603515) [Archived: 1011 hours ago]

hoe kitty
6/10/2025, 5:17:16 AM No.7603515
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yo I purchased this book, just read the first pages and it is just bla bla bla bla bla bla bla and endless scientific bullshit, am I wasting my fucking time?, should I read this book?
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 5:23:15 AM No.7603522
>>7603515 (OP)
>yo I purchased this book
Yeah, right.
>am I wasting my fucking time?
By shitposting on /ic/? Yeah.
>should I read this book?
No, kys.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 5:25:05 AM No.7603524
https://vocaroo.com/1idfNqqNfcfW
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 5:36:39 AM No.7603532
>>7603515 (OP)
the exercises are fine, just skip her ramblings
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:16:35 AM No.7603559
>>7603515 (OP)
just do the exercises
the workbook is more worth your money
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:31:59 AM No.7603575
i bought it and as a teen and never used it. wish i did.
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 6:53:30 AM No.7603583
>>7603515 (OP)
if you want to end up like pawell? then no, read it asap
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:05:53 AM No.7603590
Screenshot_99
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i followed the advice on the cover but i don't feel like i have improved
hoe kitty
6/10/2025, 7:34:32 AM No.7603603
>>7603583
ok, any books that you recommend that actually teach something useful and not some kind of esoteric pseudoscience bullshit?
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 7:38:30 AM No.7603605
>>7603603
>not some kind of esoteric pseudoscience bullshit
Do you expect scientific accuracy or even logical thinking from art books?
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hoe kitty
6/10/2025, 7:47:01 AM No.7603614
>>7603605
no xdd, I just want to draw humans in perspective, that's my main goal
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:03:55 AM No.7603623
>>7603614
>to draw humans in perspective
It's one of the most difficult think one can do. Case in point, there is no books or video that actually teaches this. Best they can do is to use rough guidelines or boxes. Like this David Finch video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub19UehR8rc

It honestly comes down to talent. And experience.
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:08:59 AM No.7603630
>>7603623
shut your lying crab ass up
if you arent trolling, its your fault for not knowing how to vet teachers
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:29:36 AM No.7603640
>>7603630
he's not really lying, nobody actually plots perspective for figures, at best they plot their placement
it's like drawing a box in perspective and then filling it with a car vs what robertson does, the latter is actually drawing in perspective, the former isn't
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hoe kitty
6/10/2025, 8:30:56 AM No.7603641
>>7603623
talent sounds like you need to win a fucking lotery or some kind of celestial power, such a fucking dumbass word
Anonymous
6/10/2025, 8:41:02 AM No.7603647
>>7603515 (OP)
exercises gud
pseudoscience bad
just do the exercises
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hoe kitty
6/10/2025, 8:51:09 AM No.7603652
okayge
okayge
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>>7603647
okay
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 9:57:29 AM No.7603686
>>7603640
What is the former called?
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Anonymous
6/10/2025, 11:24:10 AM No.7603721
>>7603686
just drawing
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 2:43:34 AM No.7604672
I had enough of observational drawing for life.
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 3:45:57 AM No.7604744
>>7603605
i feel like "how to draw" by scott robertson would be something like scientific accuracy (painful)
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Anonymous
6/11/2025, 3:47:27 AM No.7604751
>>7603614
maybe try tomfox or the morpho series.
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hoe kitty
6/11/2025, 5:45:44 AM No.7604895
>>7604744
>>7604751
thank you so much anon, seems like those books are actually what I need. I am reading this book of the right side of the brain and holy shiet, endless crap about public schools and pointless bullshit that IDGAF, like bro, I just want to learn how to draw humans in perspective with good backgrounds, shading, values, edges, textures, etc...
Anonymous
6/11/2025, 5:54:59 PM No.7605329
>>7603515 (OP)
It's more of a motivational tool than a course on learning to draw. I think it does a good job showing you that drawing is a series of tools and techniques that you practice and implement to solve the problem of putting and image onto a page. I only did the workbook edition which is just the exercises with minimal exposition so I can't speak to the full version. I think a lot of the rambling is meant more to win over school boards and keep them from cutting arts funding
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 11:51:26 AM No.7606384
images
images
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>>7603603
Picrel has pseudoscience but it's incredibly insightful and useful

>people symbol draw with out lines because the sense of touch develops weeks before sight and touch is about sensing perimeter boundaries
>gotta learn to drop the way you've though about things and actually use your eyes
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 11:52:54 AM No.7606386
>>7606384
*'with outlines' not 'with out lines'
Anonymous
6/12/2025, 3:30:37 PM No.7606533
file
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>>7603652
you should know that there is a workbook for that book
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 3:39:56 PM No.7606542
>>7606533
Too bad the pirated version doesnโ€™t exist on the internet. A lot of different (but kinda similar) โ€œThe New Drawingโ€ version. And many just lie and add a different cover.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 3:51:28 PM No.7606557
>>7606542
Cough cough here you go anon: https://libgen.li/ads.php?md5=62af139e2ec48d48334d851d51446819
If you canโ€™t open epub files download Calibri or something
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 4:04:47 PM No.7606571
>>7606557
ebook format for a book that doesn't have a digital/kindle version, so it can't be a digital rip. Yeah, not suspicious at all.
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Anonymous
6/12/2025, 7:28:19 PM No.7606751
>>7603515 (OP)
The sticky memed me into getting that book years ago then I realized the workbook is what is actually useful. Someone needs to update that ancient sticky.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 4:52:18 AM No.7607392
>>7606557
I can't open the URL, can someone just convert it and throw it up on gofile or something?
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 10:47:35 AM No.7607518
>>7603515 (OP)
>>7606751
It can work. I took an art class in community college and we used that book and it helped a lot of people in class improve at their art. For me, personally I didn't get a lot out of it, but the teacher was kind of a spazz so I just stopped going. I would say just do the exercises and you'll probably make some improvements. From there do Perspective Made Easy.

A lot of people avoid this book for a long time because it doesn't start with drawing heads and figures which is where everyone wants to start but it's the most beginner friendly a book could be and getting a good grasp on perspective, especially before you start worrying about anything else, will give you invaluable skill as an artist and let you try to draw more than just "Figure on blank background" since the thing that filters everyone is not being able to draw the background in perspective and it looking like shit. If you can't make yourself do that book first, then do Fun With a Pencil to get some head and figures out of your system before going back to Perspective Made Easy because it's really an important and foundational book. Perspective will teach how large your figures should be and it also helps you figure out how your light and shadow will work so one you get the basics of drawing heads and figures that's really going to be the giant canyon you need to cross before you can level up out of beg and into where you really want to be.
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 11:33:30 AM No.7607531
>>7606571
retard
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:37:35 PM No.7607548
>>7607392
Why should I lol?
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:51:19 PM No.7607560
>>7607548
A rising tide lifts all boats
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:52:37 PM No.7607561
>>7607560
a tide of retards doesn't
lrn2computer
Anonymous
6/13/2025, 12:57:55 PM No.7607566
>>7607560
Wat. That doesnโ€™t make sense.
hoe kitty
6/13/2025, 8:20:23 PM No.7607790
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>>7607518
Thank you so much, Anon, for the advice. I'm actually going to start reading Perspective Made Easy. I think perspective is one of the most important things an artist can learn, even before studying anatomy and figure drawing
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Anonymous
6/13/2025, 8:23:38 PM No.7607792
mario drawing recs
mario drawing recs
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>>7603515 (OP)
>>7607518
>>7607790
*taps sign*
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:10:18 AM No.7608019
>>7603515 (OP)
If you are an absolute beg with zero drawing ability and believe you have zero potential for drawing ability, this book is absolutely for you.
If you are anywhere beyond mid-beg, this book is a (kinda?) good read for the psychological side of stuff, but won't really teach you anything.

After this, art and science of drawing is super duper good for begs
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:12:43 AM No.7608023
>>7603515 (OP)
This and keys to drawing (worth skimming through to get an idea of techniques) is mostly noise.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:19:06 AM No.7608032
>>7607792
>next page
>no next page
Iโ€™m sad.
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hoe kitty
6/14/2025, 1:20:03 AM No.7608110
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>>7608019
>art and science of drawing
this one?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:10:39 AM No.7608170
>>7608110
That's the one. Brent Eviston is very good for learning beg stuff, and his figure drawing book is also worth checking out imo. There's also a video course version of it you can find over in the Video Course General >>7548701
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:24:45 AM No.7608184
>>7608170
https://gfx-hub.cc/tutorials/drawing-painting-tuts/8088-udemy-the-art-and-science-of-drawing-brent-eviston-complete-14.html
this one?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:26:41 AM No.7608185
>>7608184
Looks like it
hoe kitty
6/14/2025, 2:32:36 AM No.7608191
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>>7608170
thank you so much anon, buying those books right meow
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 5:00:24 AM No.7608370
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>>7608110
I'm not a fan of Brent, but that birb is comfy. I would believe it if a shaman told me he was a royal court painter in an ancient Chinese dynasty
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 5:01:07 AM No.7608371
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>>7608110
>>7608370
a royal court painter *in a past life*

is what I meant to type

enjoy another bird and flower painting
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 5:12:00 AM No.7608392
>>7608370
artist sauce?
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 5:13:16 AM No.7608396
ero manga process 2
ero manga process 2
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>>7608032
GENTLEMEN... BEHOLD!!!
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hoe kitty
6/14/2025, 5:21:44 AM No.7608410
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>>7608396
this is actually good advice, ty anon
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 5:22:31 AM No.7608413
ero manga process-min
ero manga process-min
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>>7607792
>>7608032
>>7608396
>>7608410
stitched the two together because this happens every time it's posted
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 5:25:16 AM No.7608417
>>7608396
>>7608413
2nd page doesn't tell you anything about learning to draw though
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:03:01 AM No.7608456
>>7608413
>>7608396
>next issue
>no next issue
I'm sad.

But seriously where is this from? Who is Mario?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:15:51 AM No.7608466
>>7608456
>Who is Mario?
the woman who drew those illustrations
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:16:54 AM No.7608468
>>7608456
https://x.com/marioinomario/media
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 5:22:09 PM No.7608826
>>7608466
>>7608468
>@marioinomario has been withheld in ID in response to a legal demand.
I'm not sure why you guys can't just give a straight answer.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 5:23:18 PM No.7608828
>>7608826
what the fuck are you talking about
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 5:39:58 PM No.7608839
>>7608828
Who did this guide >>7608413 >>7608396 >>7607792 ? It's a very simple question. If you don't know then just shut up.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 5:41:13 PM No.7608840
>>7608839
i don't know what withheld in ID means in the first place. when i googled it, i got a bunch of results from Idaho