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If you're on a break after drawing and feel like sharing what's on your mind about what you're working on, the industry, things that excite you about art, or anything that frustrates you about drawing or the process of art then grab a cup of water and chill out here.

Remember to keep discussion on-topic as much as possible.

>>7605928 (OP)

I wonder how the tap water taste in a Japanese school. The water fountains at my school from when I was a kid tasted either musty or really cold and had a funny taste like toilet water.

What's the /ic/ consensus on commission platforms like Skeb and pixiv request? Any stories?

gonna be away from my tablet for a week and i'm actually feeling a bad anxiety about it. maybe i am mentally ill

Relief as an event I had to do a lot of non-drawing work for has passed successfully.

The pain of having to look at my art supplies and go "No, you CANNOT burn all your energy on that right now, you HAVE to do the non-art things" and eating frozen pizzas for two fucking weeks sucked balls.

>>7605928 (OP)
>"This pose is too specific. No way I'm finding a reference for it"
>*Finds it on first try*

>>7605938
Pretty good for keeping your identity safe. A+

How can you as an artist be based?
t.pussy

if you're in your 20s, draw as much as you can. Draw every day, skip the goon sesh and draw. Stop playing shitty vidya and draw. Draw draw draw while you still have your youthful energy. Because when you hit 30, your body starts the decline. You'll wake up exhausted, you'll start randomly being sore.

>>7605928 (OP)
I got a drafting table that's pretty worn out from being outside and I plan on refurbishing it. Anyone have experience with them? I want to know what surfaces it typically uses.

>>7607444

I still have the same energy as I did in my 20s it's just I have to actually go out for walks whereas if I was 21 I never really exercised.

>>7607444
>>7607721
My biggest regret is not exercising more in my youth. My posture and physique suck, my left leg gets numb when I sit for prolonged periods and some of the muscles in the calf feel fucking deflated somehow. It sucks because my brain still very much wants to draw

>>7607444
If you're in your 20s, exercise regularly and don't just engorge on trash so you don't feel like shit in your 30s. There's literally no downside other than spending time you would have wasted playing some shitty game or watching a gay Youtube video.

>>7607731

Yep. You gotta make it a habit. If I never had a dog that forced me to walk anyway I'd probably still be very sedentary

>finally have study fatigue
>but no idea what to draw, illustration wise
it's over

>>7607731
>>7607739
what can I do at home that will give me the benefits of walking without having to go outside?

being consistent is harder than I thought. I just don't have it in me to draw today, but I gave up all my hobbies and time wasters so now I just sit and stare at my desktop until I feel the motivation to draw again.

>>7607444
I'm trying but I'm just not built for this, I don't have that kind of energy, I guess you could say I have no talent. I'm never going to give up though

can you guys still draw despite being busy from irl stuff? its my last year in uni and ive been hating every drawing i made in this period, every session just feels like torture haha. Any tips?

>>7609790
Bus tickets, receipts, I doodle on em. Then when I get home I'd take a piece of copy paper and do some sketching. Serious works on weekends.
Don't overthink it and just start.

my brain is frantically trying to figure out how I can draw more without drawing for hours.

Copy pasted my painting into chatgpt and asked it to render it in the style i was going for, it looks 100x better. This feels like it could be effective for learning but something about it feels dangerous

>>7610193
retard

>>7610197
How so

>>7610193
retard

>>7610220
I accept your concession

>>7610193

Yeah don't listen to the idiots here and elsewhere. At least the AI listens and gives you critique. No longer do you have to go through the humiliation ritual of posting on reddit or this place for feedback only to get a sarcastic, lukewarm response. Ethics aside, I'm glad we're in the AI timeline. It's more of a friend than it is an enemy.

good morning sirs

>>7610305
get new material

>>7610193
well, its not much different from finding someone elses art and copying/learning from that. It seems like it could work.

>Want to start studying art again but too busy being outside
>Wildfires where I live right now and for the rest of summer
>Bored as fuck inside all day so all I've been doing is studying
I got my wish in the worse way. Even when the smoke is less bad I still can't go out due to my asthma. Pray for me so I don't go insane.

>>7610231
>>7610569
left original before making the AI ref middle after 1hr 20 painting. im very noob at rendering and colours so it was a helpful reference

>>7611262
nice job, I think with painting though its still worth looking at real stuff sometimes since ai doesn't make "Strokes"

>>7611262
What's the point of drawing if AI made it for you in seconds anyway

>>7611262
honestly you were on the track for something cool, the AI slopified version just makes me BAKA

I got maybe 90 minutes of drawing in me before the brainfog sets in and I'm staring at the ceiling the rest of the day.

>>7611262
The AI version completely ruins the contrast and fucks up the values by compressing them into oblivion, it's barely readable and made even worse combined with the 47578 grainy filters put on top. The only better thing is the face (and again a lot of information is lost due to poor values) but please for the love of god don't use it as a painting reference, this is really really bad. As a beginner in rendering you probably ought to focus on studying masters and grinding fundies because you're not at a point where you can discern horrible mistakes like this. AI will just hurt your process and learning.Your OG pic has way better contrast and color choices.

I have had tinnitus for 5 days and it has worsened over the last 2 days. It’s awful and I cannot concentrate on anything than this. I feel very depressed knowing I’ll have to live with it for the rest of my life. Please take care of your ears anons, I wouldn’t wish it upon my worst enemy.

>>7605931
I love that you know what toilet water tastes like.

>>7612075
I drank it in a dare once.

>>7605928 (OP)
Is this a regular general?
I could use a place to cry in

>>7612046
I've had it since I was 11. You'll manage.

>>7612046

I had really bad ringing a few weeks ago and I think it was caused by eating too much salt. I flushed my system out like mad with nothing but water with a day fast and it went away. Was scared shitless.

I'm finding that going to bed super early is better for me overall.
I get to "skip" the portion of the day I get nothing done, and if I do it enough times I can wake up and do some drawing before work starts.
I hate being a worker-drone, man.

>>7612094
Was gone for a while.
I posted one a while back and it's been back since by other anons. It's slow, and people seem to appreciate it.
>>7609790
Just don't stop drawing. I was the same in Uni, got depressed when I spent a long time without drawing.
I'm happy as long as I get to do something art related.

today I will draw.

HOW DO I DRAW MORE THAN 4 HOURS A DAY
EVERY HOUR I DRAW HAS TO BE ACCOMPANIED BY 2 HOURS OF EDGING

>>7605928 (OP)
I joined an art group, and I get absolutely mogged by the "begs" in there.
I simply don't understand how can people draw so dynamically, as everything it's already printed on paper.
To me, even making the most static figure is a problem... I am getting back again to fundies and stuff...

I have a regular client who pays me well and always showers me with compliments, which make me a little uncomfortable but that's a me problem. The only real problem is that a lot of what he asks me to draw goes against my sexual orientation. Also, many of his ideas have a weird racist undertone. Either way, I'm very grateful to him. He's largely the one who feeds my family.
On the other hand, I just received an email from a client with whom I'm not eager to work, despite the fact that all of my social media accounts say that I'm too busy to take on any more commissions. I should turn him down, but I'm embarrassed to do so.
Sometimes I feel like I'm too autistic for this shit.

why do people complain about threads made asking dumb questions, but eagerly take the bait on the 30th east vs west, howie, and how do i get popular thread that week? i'd rather see a dozen newfags make LOOK AT MY ART threads than any of that shit

>>7613387
you enjoy those threads, don’t lie.

Why do I feel like I can draw freely from imagination, but feel so rigid when I have a reference in front of me? It's almost as if they were drawn by two different people.

>>7613409
look at your reference for 1 minute then hide it before drawing.

>>7611743
the left one looks way worse tf

>>7607444
You actually need to have a clue of what you are doing when drawing. Just randomly drawing lines won't help you much. That's the problem when you are young. You have energy, but no knowledge, only confusion.

>>7613806
thats all of life, I finally understand the boomers when they told me they envied my youthfulness.

>>7612046
Update: went to see a doctor who just told me my hearing was good. He didn’t even mention tinnitus. 15 minutes of nothing for 110 euros. I wish my head exploded.
>>7612288
I loved silence so much. I really can’t sleep with noise. How did you cope with it?
>>7612293
How long did it last? I don’t really eat a lot of salt but I’ll try that water fasting.

>>7612046
Had it for years and I don’t even consciously hear it 99% of the time. It gets better.

>>7613857
>How long did it last?

nearly 1 whole day

>>7613857
Sometimes I get it when I'm exhausted, it usually doesn't last more than a couple hours at a time for me though. Usually sleeping with white noise/bird chirping+music videos or having something playing in the background when working helps.

>>7613857
I use white noise to help me sleep, and you should get checked if you clench your jaw during your sleep. It's common. Oh, and I'm 30, so I kinda grew used to it. But maybe you can get it fixed!

>>7613457
So simple, but that might be what I need to do. I get too caught up trying to copy it perfectly.

i'm actually spending too much time drawing. it's come to the point where i'm neglecting my responsibilities and not getting enough sleep so i can squeeze in as much time as possible. there's so much stuff that needs to be done on the house, the weather outside is amazing and i should really go experience it, there's friends i haven't seen for years. i'm starting to wonder if this is all worth it.

I'm currently very disillusioned with drawing and creation in general. Often when I get into something (new game, show, whatever) I think to myself "Man, I'll never make something like this, why bother?". It's been especially bad recently though, I can't even be assed to make anything besides doodling and have nothing going on in general. It's depressing, but I'm used to it and know I won't do much about it.

>Takes selfies for likes from old men to feel good about herself after

I wonder if the permabeg to OF pipeline is a thing

>>7605938
Pixiv is slow to pay out, it's always the next month's designated pay day after finishing the comm. In DA you get the money 7 days after the client has placed the order.

I don't have the strength to draw today... I'm gonna take a day off....

Pencil to paper until I die

>>7614638
>Often when I get into something (new game, show, whatever) I think to myself
For me it is "Damn, that idea is going into my eventual IP!!!!!!!" and then I never start because I change my mind about the project I wanna make every time I come across another inspiring thing.
It doesn't help that just imagining the end product is fulfilling enough and more immediate than committing years to it.

“You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below."
Exodus 20:4

God hates artists. Not gonna blame him, I get it. But why do you think he does? Did someone call him low /int/ for his soulless creation?

>>7614950
https://www.biblestudytools.com/exodus/20-4-compare.html
That's specifically about making idols to worship.

So, basically, anyone who prays to loomis is sinning.

>>7614963
>https://www.biblestudytools.com/exodus/20-4-compare.html
depend son the translation.
You are probably right, because it'd mirror the Muslim sand trilogy part as well, but many translations seem to suggest you shouldn't make an image of anything.

>>7614972
mfw i draw a little smiley face in the sand and god instantly vaporizes all my bones with divine lightning

>>7614998
sounds like a fun idea for a shonen tranime

>>7614885
God damn dude that's almost exactly how it is for me as well. I've spent most of my life daydreaming about all sorts of elaborate scenarios and ideas so vividly that I never felt the need to actually make it in reality. I absolutely feel you on a personal level.

the longer I spend not drawing, the more of my day drawing will take up. Its like I can't draw in the evening because it'll eat up all my remaining free time. I can only draw in the morning. Anytime after 3pm is basically impossible to draw because it would fast foward me to nighttime.

a setback is a setback I suppose

Hey, I figured that one of the people here outta know. I already own coolorus 2.5, but its a legacy extension for any photoshop past 2023. I've been looking around and see that people are using Magicpicker now. When i compare the two, it seems that Magicpicker is better in almost all categories and has its own plugins for color mixing, references and the like, plus it's still being updated for new PS/AI, so it's very tempting, but I've also read that coolorus is slightly better in terms of gamut locking, color harmonies, temp view, etc.

Has anybody here used them both and what are you thoughts?

I'm going through the proko anatomy course again after first doing it almost two years ago when I was first starting to study and jesus christ I forgot or even didn't pick up some things. Really glad I decided to do it again.

>>7614638
>I'm currently very disillusioned with drawing and creation in general. Often when I get into something (new game, show, whatever) I think to myself "Man, I'll never make something like this, why bother?".
Why not think "I can make something like this someday" instead? I used to think like you when I was a beginner but I studied a lot and now make the shit I wanted when I was beg. It's very motivating to see how far I have come and makes me excited for the stuff I can make in a few years when I am even more better.

Is it true Disney has been secretly hiring more 2D guys or is it all just rumors?

I make decent money driving around delivering vendor products to convenience stores, it's relaxing driving around and I only have to deal with like 12 people a day and maybe 3 of them are cunty. It's the life. But I work like 11 hour days 5 days a week and barely have the time or energy to paint. What should I change jobs to that has an equivalent low customer to decent pay ratio? I make like 60k a year. There's gotta be something else I need time to myself.

these are five months apart. literally what the fuck do you do for this sort of improvement? dude went from being barely able to hold a pencil to genuinely appealing looking works with nice colors and dynamic lineart.
is talent real? i'm going to mcfucking kill myself.

>>7615808


Asian genetics.

>>7605928 (OP)
Today is unusually a very good day, looking forward to many great things ahead.

>>7615818

what comes up must come down

>>7615820
the wheel of life anon

>>7611262
Heres a little secret: You're better off using posterize filter instead of muddy shitty AI, friend.

>>7615808
Stop doing random studies without context, finish an actual original piece even if it takes you a month, you learn a lot that way.

Studying animals are hard.

I'm done. I don't have any juice left in me to draw. I'm just going to sleep 20 hours a day and goon for 4.

>>7615820
stop talking about my willy

my motivation finally came back when i tried to draw from imagination. excessive studies and drawing really mundane life shit burned me out for almost 3 weeks lol, didn't even expect it to happen because i was having fun, but something gave after a while

The fact that in 20-30 years (and why not, most likely 15), nobody is going to remember the names of 99% of currently popular 5/6 digits Newgrounds/Xitter artists regardless of how good their actual art is makes me feel glad working on my art skills and comic projects in obscurity without caring about social media, discord and what other people might think.

>>7611262
>>7615823
I second that. Many professional artists actually use a posterize filter on other art pieces, even on the old traditional ones, then start lightly smudge some spots to make just a few new colors, and finally they color pick from there or just guess the color.

>>7611262
Many times you recognize an AI image by the colors and weird contrast, even when it's just a thumbnail.
I suggest to avoid learning from an AI images as main source.

>>7616704

Why think about 30 years from now? 30 years from now you'll be needing to go to doctors appointments every month. Live in the moment now.

>i should draw today
>... it'll take a solid hour to warm up....
>.... then another hour to sketch and finish something.....
>I don't even know which idea to draw..... it might not even be good....
>if I just đraw i might get into the zone and stop over thinking
>..... or I might hate drawing even more and ruin my day...
>better play it safe and just fap...

>>7613387
people like taking the bait
most social media is rage bait farming these days

>can't download the /ic/ torrent to complete my archive because there's nobody seeding it

>>7605928 (OP)
I used to sit down and draw without any pressure or issues, but I've been stuck in a burnout cycle for about a year now:
1. want to make a piece, but not good enough to execute. it's frustrating to try because it's all wrong, it gets overworked, and looks like a mess
2. focus on study so I can get better, but it's draining because I never just make something for myself
3. don't want to rest or take a break because I feel so far behind where I should be. I don't want to fall behind or waste even more time than I already have
4. nothing feels like a winning move because I can't do anything right and it ruins any enjoyment

doesn't help I'm surrounded by talented and successful artists who make really nice pieces nearly every day, meanwhile I can't even finish a single figure sketch without hating it and no one really likes my work anyway. idk what to do anymore, it feels like ever since I spiraled out, clawing my way back to normalcy feels impossible and I don't know what I can do to get over this. if any anons here have felt the same way, what did you do to recover? Art means a lot to me, but it's turned from passion into pain.

my shit is so shit I don't even have the balls to post it in /beg/ for advice

>>7617324
But that's what beg is for...

>>7605928 (OP)
I think I am breaking into /mid/ but I see that companies want just to grind you, you already must have their IP in your head without something in return, and... if you fail you are stuck with those ideas and look... What should one do then? Besides just working in ones projects...

>>7607203
True
>>7613303
Lol, at least you have the bread on the table

I got a wireless drawing tablet, one of those XP Deco things; I'm just drawing for fun and practicing the proko human anatomy lessons so I can draw anime girls and post stupid OC on X. Each time I take time to learn drawing again, it's quite nice. I need to get into actually finishing the drawing with line work and coloring.

>>7617091
The thing that has worked for me in that situation is to set up a complex idea for a piece, something you already know you cant execute well and break it into pieces that will force you to study. So for example, I want to make a portrait similar to X artist, first I try to copy the character, I try to study the pose, the actual thing in some 3 or mannequinn, I study what drawing books teach me about that pose... and so on with the environment, the props, the color, etc. Yow will fail, but you will learn for the next study.

My arts getting worse the more I study because once I learn something and feel comfortable with it, I never draw it again. Because I only want to draw original things I've never seen before, so everything I draw is automatically shit even though I can technically draw well.

sometimes my sketches look half-decent sometimes my sketches look like kindergarden shit it makes me wanna fucking rope

>>7617370
what the fuck is /mid/

>>7617784
Yeah, that's on you buddy. You know you have to practice drawing real things before you can go into the imaginary.

Does anyone have a routine to get into drawing? I think I need to force myself into one with the limited time I have.

Nothing says its Summer than all of the underage /begs/ making their own garbage threads.

>>7618190
Summer is a myth and this isn't pre 2010. Everyone has an always on surveillance box in their pocket and can check the 4 anytime they wish.

I've barely drawn anything in like a year because I got some kind of autoimmune muscle disease that nearly killed me and I literally couldn't hold a pen for like 6 months let alone sit upright at my computer for any real length of time. Good shit. So anyway after a lot of various treatments I can draw again for an hourish at a time, sometimes more. So that's nice. Hope to become stronger and draw for longer. Always be greatful for what you can do, anons. Thanks for listening to my ted talk.

>start a study on procreate before sleeping
>try to continue it today but the file is missing
The universe is sabotaging me...

>>7618707
netflix cinema story idea

Can I point out the elephant having sex with the other elephant in the room? Do I actually care about what anons say ITT or am I just responding because it's just a chance to get to talk about myself? I keep catching myself when I include "I" in my posts but the post I'm responding to has nothing to do with me but the anon's worry. Why inject me? I'm not important.

>>7619092
That requires a montage of me transforming into a prolific prodigy artist spitting out insane works while hooked up to a transfusion machine that gets me a benevolent patron to support my hobby
Maybe in the next decade I'll be netflix famous :')

>[someone] followed you
>oh my goodness I'm getting seen someone likes my art! oh wow lets see who!
>random numbers name
>5,010 following, 0 followers, 0 posts

oh.. man I hate bots always trying to make me think real people enjoy what I do

>>7619250
whats even the point of these bots

>>7612046
I had tinnitus in my right ear at some point, but it was because I had an ear infection. It got to the point where my right ear went deaf. went to a doctor and that's how I found out it was infected. It was really fucking weird because internally I was freaking out thinking my right ear would be deaf forever, but she just told me to take some antibiotics for a couple of weeks and it would go away. Turns out she was right and I could hear out of it after about 2 weeks. the tinnitus went away after a couple of months and to this day I still don't know how the fuck it got infected.

>>7611192
why as a person with asthma stay in a place that gets wildfires? why not live near somewhere near the coast?

I haven't drawn a single thing today. I'm such a loser buuaahhh

>>7619250
That's me, I use Twitter to lurk and follow artists. I have no intention of posting my own art.

>>7619250
i have an account where i post noting, just follow and like random artist

i recently met a person who has been a beginner for 5 years and he talks CONSTANTLY about his high iq, how clever is and how visually gifted he is and it honestly makes me feel so disgusted. combine it with him making weird jabs at me like saying im naive for doing art out of love instead of money (even tho im a full time artist btw), i dont think i have ever been more repulsed by another artist in my life. i am accepting of artists of all skill levels when it comes to making art friends but the juxtaposition of low beg doodles and self-absorbed theorycrafting about one's own visual giftedness makes me want to vomit. they also constantly shit on popular artists and try to convince me how <popular artist> is secretly a racist nazi

i know self-perception, especially about something as open ended as drawing, is pretty nebulous. but is it that hard to just.... have an open mind, enjoy the moment to moment experience and not have a massive ego about it? and i realize that me seething over people like this is also ego to an extent, but i really do not like being downtalked as much as i try to focus on the art and not my identity

How can I keep drawing when rimworld's new DLC is coming soon...

can't get nier music out of head. It was such a beautiful experience.

>>7620079
it is that hard anon.
sounds desperate for your approval which I'm guessing is part of what's repulsive.

>>7620166
edging.

>>7619749
It's okay. No better time to draw than today.

I can't even draw anymore unless I'm inspired or I have a deadline. I spend all day just staring at nothing and eating because I don't have vices anymore. Its drawing or nothing.

This board has so many mean people and I seem to attract them like a beacon. I have an innocent, sensitive little heart and I can't stand this abuse much longer.

I'm trying to follow more anons, but I haven't seen a new socials threads in months. Anyone have the copypasta?

>>7620815
you can post on reddit

>>7620818
Reddit can be even worse

>>7620815
Sorry anon, having something you put your heart and soul into being ripped apart by faggots can really hurt. (I assume lol)

Take solace in knowing that if you were really bad at what you did, no one would take any notice in your work, and you would be completely ignored. So, you're doing something right I guess. One positive (you) here is worth 20 reddit upvotes. I checked the math

>>7620820
the people who do help are much nicer though. ive seen good crit given on here (not crabbing, actual crit) they just dont pad it with compliments

>>7620815
>I have an innocent, sensitive little heart
>is on 4chan
why here? go to gaiaonline forums

>>7620995
its the only place we can be free

every few hours i get motivated and feel like i can do anything and succeed then i come down and feel like i'll never make it for about an and this repeats forever
gay ass brain

>>7621382
ingrained pattern needs to be ironed out with something else

I've been bad at drawing for almost fifteen years. As in, I started drawing 15 years ago but was always too lazy to commit to getting good. It feels awful

>>7621649
Ive been drawing for 2 years, dont be a fag and start

I sent someone fanart of their original characters nearly 2 months ago and they haven't replied. They've been active on all of their social media accounts, so it's not because they're busy. I don't wanna sound whiny, but I feel hurt. Was my drawing THAT bad...? Damn.

>>7621821
Maybe they just don't know what to say or forgot about it.

My competence is rising and soon my confidence straight to expert. I haven't felt this good in years.

I wanna start drawing bleached raceplay stuff but I don't wanna get cancelled by my more normie art friends, and I dunno if I could get away with an alt account for it.

>>7621940
Do it

why do I see people on twitter with "frequent commissioner" on their bio? Like I don't really get it, I mean it's good for me that you've got your eyes on my art but like what's the point of sharing that in your bio? it's not like "artist" or "med grad" on your bio, do people have pride on simply being commissioners?

>>7622178
How is that any different from bumper stickers on your car that says “support local businesses” and “seek Christ today”?

>>7622180
I mean those two are call to actions for others, but I guess I kinda see your point if it's "I buy local" bumper stickers instead

i'm starting to get tired of drawing, sketching lolis in the void. pretty gray and starting to get dull. time to break into watercolor. and landscapes too, only issue is all my drawings for this year have been inside a sketchbook that cost a buck, 100% watercolor is going to rekt it, and it's already starting to fall apart. i do have some watercolor specif pads. but it cost more then a dollar! i'm going to ruined it with my inexperience!

anyways, by the end of it, i want my art to look like the ending from The Beyond, surrealism stuff, with that dreamy tone you get from impressionism artwork. time to sleep

the concept of a "selfsona" is very funny to me, because we already have a word for it. persona! it's what the -sona suffix is derived from!

>>7622461

well persona (game) has a monopoly on the name

kinda odd new feature on Pixiv

I love doing character and environment art concept work for my own game projects. I've spent so many years training my "fundamentals" my linework, shape language, anatomy, perspective, expression, blah blah blah... but it feels like I'm a novice at the actual soul of creating interesting new designs... of synthesizing something new out of nothing.

I put together references of other artists and suddenly my stuff feels derivative. I try to work without references and everything feels sloppy and like I'm recycling the same outfits and expressions out of my mental bank. I try to reference nature, photos and real people more, but struggle to distill any of that down into interesting and fresh concepts.

How do you train beyond the art skills themselves and into the areas of design and creatively inventing new and exciting characters and places?

>>7607739
I'm in my 30s and I wake up excited and fresh every morning. I run twice a week and work full time in commercial real estate finance. My wife is pregnant with our first kid and I own my own house. Life is pretty good, but like most artists I wish I could spend all day creating art instead of raising capital.

A few things I've learned over the years regarding art:
> set aside time every day for creativity. It's very hard to do, but try your best to really carve out a 1 to 2 hour window every day for creative work.
> never let yourself start your creative session looking for inspiration on YouTube or the internet, you will burn through an hour eating information carbs and getting fat and lazy seeking that magic explosive hit of inspiration that you only find once in a while.
> plan what you're going to work on outside of that creative session, so that when you get into it you're ready to go.
> continuously push out of your comfort zone. I would find myself doodling faces over and over for weeks, not growing at all. Take a break and grind hand studies, do painting studies, make up challenges of designing a character based on your lunch, whatever it is to break up getting stuck in the comfort zone.
> finish projects. It's so easy to sketch all day and dream and do short work, but nothing feels better than looking over your real finished work. Don't let YouTube convince you it's quick. A good finished piece of art should take 15 to 25 hours of work.
> beware the iPad. I got an iPad so I could draw on the couch with my wife, but I've noticed I can't get into deep work in a place with so many distractions. Good creative work requires solitude and focus.
> draw art for people as gifts, it's a great way to share your art, save money and draw something different than your usual stuff

good luck art bros.

>>7622461
it used to be persona

I finally popped off and it feels so freeing, like a weight off my shoulders. I drew something thats 4k+ and counting likes, it pushed me over my 100 followers goal, and now I'm so relaxed like its over, I can do anything draw freely without worrying what people will think of it. Like I been there done that and can just stop thinking about it now

>>7622784
>dude i finally took heroin and it feels so freeing now i can live freely without worrying about getting my next fix!!
sorry anon but ur an unhinged sounding approval addict, ur high is temporary and you will never be meaningfully happy until you stop giving a shit.

>>7622784
I'm perfectly content with 0 followers. I have mastered the art of improving from within.

>>7622838
but anon I did stop giving a shit I already said that!

Someone said I'm all vibe. What does that mean?

my mom is sounding more and more like a 4channer lately

>>7622784
Good for you bro. What platform? Im looking to make an insta soon

eugh had a lot of motivation to draw before getting laid off but started drinking again and that has totally killed my desire to do anything other than blow my brains out.
facking sucks

What do detail expands mean? My post got 500 impressions, 400 detail expands, only 50 likes.

Is meditation good for art gains? I tried practicing a few times, but never took it seriously

>want to draw something
>the idea I want to draw is so original that I can never find a suitable reference
>play games instead

>>7622754
>synthesizing something new out of nothing
pretty much impossible
>my stuff feels derivative
everything is
>inventing new and exciting characters and places
hardly anyone can do that, even artists that have been working for decades.

originality is overrated. pick any 'original' artists. research what inspired them and you'll notice their 'original' designs are actually quite derivative. you only need to change about 20% of a design to make it feel new. anything truly new and original would feel too alien and strange.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9RYuvPCQUA

>>7623215
Is this for twitter? I think it's supposed to be clicks, like instead of seeing and scrolling they opened the post to see the replies or something

>>7623130
That you're fairly relaxed and agreeable to get along with

>>7623222
Whatever constitutes as a mental break will help, yes. General exercise, fresh air will also keep you refreshed and will aid in gains retention.

>>7623512
Fun fact, this was his wife bending over using greenscreen

>>7605928 (OP)
>That one commission that takes ages to finish because you overwork every detail under the self-critical lens that under completed work will be received poorly. So when you do finally finish everything feels overcooked and stiff and unappealing and all the brevity of line and energy is just gone. But it's been far too many hours for the money you made on it at this point so you might as well just hand in the technically impressive but mediocre slop you got.
It happened again dammit

>>7612046
I shot a gun without protection when I was like 7 years old, it's honestly fine. You just learn to ignore it after a while.
That being said;
>EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>7623512
>>7623554
kek gotta love the prokster

>>7623560
the fact that you are aware of it means you are gmi. making overpolished, convoluted work has killed a lot of art careers.

you'll find the right balance soon enough

Why do my cognitive abilities fluctuate throughout the day? Most of the time I feel like shit, it’s as if I got smashed in the head with a brick. Then there’s about 30 minutes randomly in the day that I’m highly functional, thoughts and intuitions come to me effortlessly. I have no health problems, eat decent, exercise and sleep well. My two ideas are autism/adhd or dpdr dissocation. Having access to this state 24/7 would make my life extraordinarily easier. Am I just fucked?

>>7623676
write down at what time of day that 30 minutes kicks in each day to notice triggers. Nobody can answer this for you, you have to self-diagnose your environment and what you're eating.

I love wad. I keep worrying about him for some reason. what's wrong with me?

>>7624253
wrong general, queer

I'm so broke I can't afford a csp sub...

I literally did nothing all day on my day off because I thought I can always draw after work anyways, but I can only relax and goon now.

everytime i attempt practicing clothing i want to give up drawing forever

I've been really lonely recently and slacking on drawing. Tried to fill the void with playing multiplayer games on Steam but everything that actually has a playerbase these days is just some live service slop where nobody actually interacts, and any multiplayer game that's actually a fun experience basically requires you to already have a group beforehand (these are normally 4 player co op games).

Effectively wasted 2 weeks on nothing just to come to the conclusion I should have just been drawing. Drawing is the only way I'm gonna dig myself out of this hole

Just bought 8 games from the Steam summer sale. Guess I won't draw for a while...

>>7624678
Maybe getting a minimum wage job, talking to the employees, putting yourself out there, and start seeing the different perspectives around you will get you out of the hole. Art isn't magic.

>>7624678
yet you still wont do it, the games were just an excuse

>draw for hours
>don't have anything drawn
>all my time was spent redrawing and fixing things
now I know why people shoot up schools

>>7625261
Sounds like a you problem. It makes more sense if you want to kill people who are bad or bully you, naturally, but even then it is evil. If you just want to kill people because you feel bad, buddy, you should just find a mentor, a spiritual guide, find god or learn new way to create.

It just feels so pointless.
Effort to reward ratio is unfavorably skewed, not talking about money moreso enjoyment had through the process and connections made. Unfortunetly im a sperg so the latter is unapplicable.

>>7625261
A healthy and productive way to let off a little steam

>>7625279
let me vent ffs

How do I draw more often?
I lack art skills and don't have many friends, those I have are not close and I cannot ask them for art advice.
I am seeking a job, but I feel like it's only going to stop me from drawing.
I do art studies several times a day but for short periods of time.

>>7625459
Become autistic

>>7615808
>is talent real?
Why wouldn't it be?

i don't know what i want my art to look like. I just draw but, in order to draw gooder i need to develop MY style. the problem is, I don't know what really defines me

welp, there goes my niche
time to watch literally everyone be better at it than me

>>7625589
what was your niche?

>>7615808
>literally what the fuck do you do for this sort of improvement?
use AI

>>7625595
isnt it wild how a lot of artists went from permabegs to professionals overnight around 2023-2024 and nobody batted an eye haha

>>7625597
yes it very suspicious when their art style changes all of a sudden
funny how they post sketches and WIPs when they never did before too...

Last night I came to realization that I'm really just improving for nothing. I rarely show my art to anyone, I don't care about getting an art related job, I don't care about getting followers or likes, I'm not doing it to make money. I spend hours sitting at my desk drawing for absolutely nothing. I kind of wonder if I should just stop.

>>7625597
I'm scared people will accuse me of using AI because I will stop posting for months and then come back with better art because while I was gone all I did was study. I switch up my art style a bunch too so that doesn't help.

>>7626087
>I'm scared people will accuse me of using AI because I will stop posting for months and then come back with better art because while I was gone all I did was study. I switch up my art style a bunch too so that doesn't help.
thats what i worry about too, posting wips helps, also switch up with some trad posts

>>7626087
just post screenshots of all your studies. even if theyre ugly. people will be impressed. even better if theyre trad and you can post video leafing through it. though if you dont care about money or followers, i dont see why it matters

I love AI and I'm glad to have been born in this timeline where it's emerging.

>>7626123
/geet/ is over there

>>7626123
#indianpride

>>7626168
>>7626181

One day you'll see the same light that I do. In no way am I insinuating AI over drawing, but rather it expanding a whole new world. An expansion of possibilities. It is just another tool and a friend to a greater vision. Adieu.

>>7626194
Maybe after I have an aneurysm and lose 50% of my brain

>Starting to finally get better
>Actually liking the work I put out a bit more
>Brain now sees something nice on the page and goes "Good job, that looks nice!"
>Get that hit of satisfaction before the piece is even complete
>Now I can't get anything done
Fucking help.
What always pushed me through was craving that "Job well done" feeling but now I'm getting it too early.

I gotten got my first payed comision. Ooooh yeeeaaa baby!!!!

>>7626214
I is have an idea that might be of many help.
Try and practice to get to a finished piece faster.
Practice SPEEEED.

>>7626214
This is the reason most artists stop improving. Once you reach a point where you think it's good enough, it's extremely difficult to go even further. You'll either have to let that displeasure ferment until you actually gain the motivation or you'll need to just power through it and try to make something look better than what you think is necessary.

>be me
>lying in bed, about to sleep
>overthinking as usual
>suddenly feel this weird sensation in my brain
>like it just powered up or something
>overthinking stops instantly
>literally feels like someone pressed the "off" switch on the mental noise
>sudden calm
>feel clear-headed as hell
>thoughts are organized for once
>lowkey feel smarter in that moment
>stay like that for a few moments
>woke up today and still feel like that
>drew a bunch of loomie heads, boxes and anime girls

What the fuck is happening to me? should i go to the doctor or to a lab so they can study me?

imagine how good we'd be if the human brain didn't resist work at all times

>>7626877
you thinking making art is work is why you'll always be a perma prebeg shitter

>>7626857
that's why u need the perfectionist genes.

>>7626877
the human brain loves work and problem solving
it just also loves conserving energy, if it can choose between making dumb posts on ic and drawing, its always going to pull you to do the former.

Rant:
I don't know if I'm alone in this but don't you hate it when someone asks you for a commission they list up every single detail they want in an extremely specific way? Especially when it's stuff that makes no sense or it's contradictory.
I mean my art in general tends to have bits and pieces of details and hidden lore all over it, and people love that, but it's because I choose to add them because I thought it would be a great idea.
Now when someone comes and starts picking up stuff before hand it feels overwhelming like I'm being chained.
I prefer when people just comes with a vague idea. a subject, a pose and a setting and just leaves it to me, so I have full control of the drawing.

>>7627048
if other people's money is involved then you will either need to accommodate both types of clients or just offer creative freedom comms with specific terms (i.e. client can choose the character and whatever other details you mention)

contradictory requests are an issue of course, but anyone normal wont have a problem with you if you just calmly explain why one of the things in their list is incompatible with another.

I was dreaming I was in the world of wuthering waves last night. So trippy.

Loomis heads and actions, speak louder than words and feelings.

>>7627165
If I spray enough scented school girl spray I might dream of Jinhsi tonight and can pick up from where I left off.

>>7626225
Speed has always been my weakpoint but I feel like I'm able to get to a similar point of "niceness" now in say 15 mins that used to take an hour of sketching and fiddling
>>7626857
You're right anon. It's not good enough, at least not yet.
It's nice to be happy about my art for the first time in ages but until I'm as good as my heroes I shouldn't stop wanting more.
Thanks anon.

>>7627078
Right, that's true.
I have done many commissions but I don't have established terms and price tables, just a base price for a character and a background and anything else is charged extra.

https://www.youtube.com/@Harrisearls1/shorts

This pathetic limp-wristed posturing will kill our already poor "artist" reputation.
Might as well call ourselves fartists now.
This is so pathetic I'm embarrassed.

>over a month ago since I made pic related which was my first attempt at copying something using construction
>pirate the Proko beginner's course and do the first few things
>now want to copy photo
>I freeze up when the clothes make it difficult to draw even the construction shapes
I dunno maybe I should continue with construction on 2D for now...

I watch Asian God streamers and they're just so freaking good it's looks like it's like 9 different people drawing almost.

For years, I've been uploading my drawings to a gallery-based website. This has conditioned me to wait until I have at least six new drawings before updating any of my sites, which is getting annoying. I feel like I should upload each drawing as soon as I finish it and use that website only when I have several illustrations ready. However, something about that grates on my nerves. I feel like it would demean my "main" social media.

Ha im fucking hammered again this is great
Too bad I cant draw drunk

What should you do if somebody asks you to commission for a single dollar?

>>7629420
block them

my body hurts and i am tired but i still gotta push the pixels

>>7629222
Use multiple sites. You are gimping yourself needlessly by sticking with only one site. DA, Pixiv, Twitter, Instagram, NewGrounds, Tumblr and E-hentai

being a full time artfag was a mistake. I can only draw when I'm in a very good mood, and so many things in my life stress me out and delete any potential drawing I could be doing.

I am ngmi. Not because of my art skills (they are improving and getting better and I enjoy the process of drawing and studying), but because I don't understand how to network or find artist mutuals at all. Posting in discords scares me, interacting with artists I like online results in no replys.
Fuck me.

>look at portrait paintings I made
>They all look like shit
It doesnt seem to get better....

I'm done with exams! For a while at least. I can go back to drawing and living my life

People's poorly drawn loomis heads usually should not be your problem.

>>7605928 (OP)
how do you do the no-lines painted style some artists use (you see this with some concept artists on pintrest/art station)? I cant seem to find any tutorials on how to do this.

>>7628747
implying this genre of artist hasnt existed in the past 100 years. the algo era of social media only expedites things

>>7630462
there aren't tutorials because it's mostly intuitive. when you see these people paint the foundations of entire scenes in a "no-lines" process they already see it in their mind

>>7630462
shape, form, space and light
you just need a decent understanding of those and a little practice.

>>7630547
>>7630616

is their like a pen I should use in CSP?

>>7631069
>how do you do the no-lines painted style
>is [there] like a pen I should use

>>7627078
Hello it's me again.
I wanted to ask now how do you deal with people who point out stuff and want changes and additions for everything like a huge shopping list?
I recently send a WIP of a commission to the client and they sent me a huge list of stuff to add or change, it's nothing major and they are not displeased with the WIP, in fact they like it so much they want more stuff to the point some stuff doesn't make sense contextually (I'm well studied of the subject I'm working on).
For the changes it's metaphorically small stuff like "Oh this clock should say 9:30 not 8:30 because yadda yadda" but multiply it X10 when I'm still working on the major stuff first.

I honestly want to respond that my way is better and they should let me handle everything, if they want it to look good of course, but I know this can come off as an asshole and hurt their feelings, and I don't want that.

I did something more complicated than it should be today and I want my time back.

>>7631197
I think the best way is to just make it clear beforehand that you get what you get, if it's not specified in the brief, it's not happening. If they want it redrawn, they get to pay for it to be redrawn.

You run a business, you're not their friend.

>>7631197
I would write a brief terms of service next time in your commission info or something to tell all commissioners when they message you, like you'll only do major revisions in the sketch stage and that you'll do 3 max revisions after the finished piece etc. And that if they want full control they'll have to pay 2x the rate, etc. Depending on how much they're paying and much you need the money, I'd just put up with it and finish the commission. Or if they haven't paid yet or the money isn't high enough to deal with, I would just tell them you're unable to finish it.

Does posting every day on twitter actually do anything? I have 2000 followers and i always get 1000 views or less per post, but i only post once a week.

>>7631314
>>7631321
Thank you
What I'm currently working at it's a big picture full of environmental storytelling were everything is connected, by adding or changing stuff I have to now think how it would influence the rest. It's such a pain in the ass and this is why I never show WIPs to anybody.

Realistically speaking, how can I become a male manwha artist if I'm not Korean?

>>7631134
dang.
Well I found this yuming li course, guess i'll buy it and follow along. Hope it helps. pray for me.

>>7631615
you REALLY would benefit from a good foundation. i have no idea what your shit looks like but if you're asking this kind of question i have to imagine you might not have the best starting point for pure painting
also pirate that shit

daily reminder

I want to sketch more and generally try to stay away from the computer. Is there a book that can help me with ideas on how to sketch on the road and so on? I'm obviously a /beg/.

>>7626087
If you use CSP it has a built in record feature you can set up to always start recording when beginning a new canvas.
I have had people accuse me of using AI since my style changes a lot depending on what refs I am using but having a video on hand shuts them up immediately.

my ADHD makes it so hard to start drawing. When I first stated drawing I could pump out 1 or 2 drawings a week but now I only draw something once every 6 months

>>7610193
I wish it accepted nudie art

>>7626087
If someone accuses you of using AI, the correct answer is to tell them to fuck off. Don't bother trying to humor puritans, be as hostile as possible toward them so that kind of person never follows you or looks at your art again.

>>7632685
Mines the opposite, arts the only thing I can find interesting and I’ve been fixed on art since I could pick up a crayon

>>7632687
ai is just a tool you spaz. you'll look stupid in 5 years time

>>7632685
mine too, except it's not that i cant start drawing, i just start and stop 20 million times

>>7632689
Good job reading, bud.

>>7632688
>>7632691
I find drawing a lot of fun, it's just for some reason, starting a drawing is so damn hard for me. Once I start and push past the first 10-15 minutes I usually don't want to stop drawing till I finish the piece

>>7632692
Why didn't you tell me to fuck off? Come on come on <3

>>7632693
i love it too i just suddenly remember everything else while doing it, like literally right now (i am in the middle of drawing something and decided to check twitter then here)

What do you do when you come to the realization that your current life is full of regrets and wasted time because of his having art as a hobby?

>>7632712
I wish but I enjoy seeing, making and thinking about art.

>>7632712
Don't worry, we don't know if reincarnation is real.

>>7610193
I ran one of my drawings through AI and it wasn't what I was expecting

>>7605938

i recommend commiss.io personally. my fren Foxovh uses it for furry porn and it's great. the only thing wrong with the site is that there's no "browse artists" function on the site itself as every person's commiss.io is its own little page, so you have to search for artists using google image search.

running my art through ai and seeing all the flaws get fixed has made me depressed

>>7632861
speedrunners put perfect tas runs in their own category dude. don't take it so seriously

Are there self-promotion threads here anymore

>>7633558
/draw/

>>7633564
Oh cool thanks, always looking for new places to be annoying

>>7632861
The flaws are what it's all about now though man, my opinion anyway though I know you didn't ask

Realizing that all the posters on here consistently getting into fights and repeatedly replying to bait have severe mental illness

What advice do you have for someone who's about to become a full-time scat artist in a few days?

I'm at an impasse with myself now where I've been drawing anime and furry stuff for a few years now and I still enjoy doing that, but I feel like my taste in stories has developed where I want more dramatic, grounded, mature stories that deal with prevalent themes and heavier topics. I feel like the kind of art I draw now doesn't go well with that kind of writing though without soiling the impact, but like I said it's still what I enjoy doing. I'm not sure how you mix those two things or what that even looks like

>>7633853
that's just the vocal minority. there are a lot of chill lurkers, you can see them post occasionally in the PYW threads

>>7633853
The /draw/ thread is actually pretty chill compared to everywhere else, also the /dbag/ thread. Just posting work or actually sharing resources with each other. I'm sure there's other quiet spaces. The catalog at large is where it gets stupid.

>>7633991
Wouldn't the tonal clash of styles actually be its appeal? Think of cutesy looking anime/cartoons but they tackle more difficult themes and topics, those're relatively popular. Not saying you can't meet somewhere in the middle by changing your style a bit either (or you could teach yourself a grittier style and have both those exist in the same place) but you can turn your dilemma into something interesting with the right combination of elements.

>>7634178
>>7634203
I'm talking about the people who get into fights/post bait/fall for bait, not everyone on here. I see many normal posters.

>>7633991
There's plenty of cutesy looking media with more serious stories. I would just draw the story you want to do.

>>7632572
Peter Han's Dynamic Bible and/or any book on urban sketching would be helpful to you I think. I personally really like The Urban Sketching Handbook series but anything that gets you observing and drawing from life on the road will make you a better artist on the desk too.

>>7633991
>not sure what that looks like.
look up madoka, detective conan, any manga in slice of life genre. They're hugely successful. In fact I think the cute artstyle helps readers get over the fact that they're digesting something with thats dark and dramatic.

>>7634207
Oh I see, my bad. "all people" vs "all people who x".

>finish drawing within 2 days of getting commed
>its done well, had fun making it, client likes it alot
>15 mins after posting it they mention it not getting enough likes/views

damn can i finish a single drawing in my life and just get to relax and feel like ive done an okay job
its always post partum depression due to one reason or another

Taking breaks is detrimental to skill and not taking breaks leads to burn out. There's no way to win this game

>>7634307
Take microbreaks.

>>7634307
take breaks by drawing joyfully with no expectation or judgement. you get to practice without feeling pressure.

try something new, study something weird that you're curious about even if its not directly applicable to your typical work, draw your friend's dog or ffxiv character, literally anything. if you're having fun and enjoying yourself you can do no wrong here.

also "detrimental to skill" is a real exaggeration, letting that anxiety taint your breaks is going to burn you out a lot more. even if you hypothetically forgot where a muscle inserts or how to draw a certain facial expression or something it would take you literal minutes to relearn. over all my years of interacting with artists i have never seen an artist get worse because they took a break unless we're talking many months and years of zero art.

Back in January, I promised myself I'd make a game before I turned 27 just so my youth wouldn't be totally wasted. Here's how it turned out. My birthday is in 3 months. My friend who said he would contribute has dipped. I figured out my own art style. I started and abandoned 2 large projects. I have 3 followers on twitter. I have no OCs. I have no good music. I have no plot. I have no game concept. I have no money or friends, and I'm a NEET. I used to try and plan out everything, but the time for that is over. Over the next 100 days I'm just going to make something and I don't even care how bad it is. Wish me luck

>>7634307
as long as you spend at least 8 hours drawing a day then it's fine
>b-b-b-burn out
doesnt exist

>>7634307
Pomodoro timer helps a lot. Take frequent small breaks throughout the day to stretch and rest your eyes. No more burn out.

In a decade of posting on /ic/ on and off I've seen maybe three anons whose work I genuinely enjoyed and just one whose work I've liked enough to save. There's great artists on 4chan in draw threads on other boards but they all avoid /ic/ like the plague it seems.

>>7634307
demonstrably false lol

School is going well and I got a big commission, but I'm more depressed than usual. It will be a while before I can talk to my therapist, what should I do?

After months of agonizing I think I might've found a way to draw (style) I finally like. Just need to supplement it with fundies to improve the execution in certain aspects. Clothing comes to mind. I can sort of see a faint light at the end of this particular tunnel...

>>7634681
>been here for a decade
>why great artists avoid /ic/
you answered your own question.

Understanding the upper arm, understanding the lower arm, and understanding how they connect are three different tasks. Maybe even more

guys I hooked up with this really cute girl yesterday and she gave me her ig, but she's better than me at drawing and I can't stand it. help pls

>>7633991
pyw? with the amount of dark and gritty anime that still are pretty stylized i doubt it would make a difference

>>7635235
just get better lol

>>7634364
Bloggu?
Give me your shitter now!
I wish to see things unfold for better or for worse

>>7634307
aint that the truth. I'm so burnt out I just stare at my computer and do nothing for hours. I don't even play games or watch anime anymore, its too much work.

>>7635393
cptcaskets
I ditched my old account because I was both delusional about art and didn't have a clue about my style yet. Since then I've been grinding and not showing anything. I still don't want to share until it's actually good, but here's some ruffles from a while back

I'm being ignored but I don't want to beg for attention like a little bitch

>>7635825
Same. I just accept it and let myself fall into the void when that happens.

>Want to improve
>Too scared of asking for feedback

I hate it here.

>>7636567
The more you doubt yourself, the worse your depression will be. Yes, yell at me from that demonic depression, but that monster will eat you alive if you stop drawing loomis heads.

>>7636567
Don't let the crabs crab you out man they're not cool

I gotta wise up and be a little careful with what I say on discord and other socials. I knew the art community online is a lot smaller than perceived but it really is the same couple of dudes everywhere and maybe one day those same guys would be shoulder to shoulder with me. Or a sponsor or company reaching out.

>>7636870
mmm nah I change my mind I say what I want

>>7636567
direct critique from random people is often useless. seek direct teaching first to iron out all the beginner issues like proportion, form, visual accuracy yada yada. if you can find a good atelier around where you live that's ideal. yes i too am not super keen on drawing old men's ballsacks in charcoal but it will give you a very good, general foundation that you can use for just about anything.

after that you should make art for a target audience and just let that guide you, talk to other artists in your niche because more often than not they will have more wisdom to share than some anime head grinder on ic.

your gut feeling is simply correct here. "head too big" from some random guy on ic will not help you in the long run

>>7634681
>There's great artists on 4chan in draw threads on other boards but they all avoid /ic/ like the plague it seems.
Yeah I noticed that too. I think it's because /ic/ is just very negative and aggressive often for no reason, while on other boards art is appreciated. When I post art on /co/ it receives lots of positive attention but on /ic/ it's either nothing or quite a bit of negative attention. I'm not even a bad artist either so I'm not sure why that happens.
I even stopped using /ic/ for 3 years and only came back 2 months ago, and honestly, I think I'm going to leave /ic/ forever soon. It doesn't really offer me anything anymore.

How do I stop feeling like shit because I'm older than my drawing-peers.

>>7637157
IC has a lot of people that do art for no reason, or who put off their own fun because they feel like they aren't yet good enough to enjoy creating. plus people who are just obsessed with anime pinups and view anything that isn't anime as lesser.

naturally this creates a situation where they froth at the mouth when they see anyone who isnt a popular anime artist having fun. its why you see a lot of "guys this dude SUCKS why is he making 3000$ on patreon!?!?!"

you will improve meaningfully when you draw fun stuff for other people, be it requests, commissions, fanart. not when someone on ic says "pinkie finger too long wtf". just do studies alongside and always keep learning. other artists in your niche, preferably who you are friends with, will give you the best feedback.

Just feeling kinda stuck.
I'm working on a project and basically finished drawing all the character sheets all at once. Was just on a roll and kept it going.

Now all that's left is the 3D work but that's slowed me down to a crawl. So much stuff is new to me which is fun, but every little bit takes ages.
I take drawing breaks to draw stuff but I've reached a point I basically drew everything I wanted. Turnarounds, expression sheets, illustrations, costumes and now I'm feeling double-stuck 'cuz the only work left is the stuff I've been avoiding.
Think I ate all the sweets and left my peas, and now I gotta finish them.

I've always wanted to sell a game at a Con, like burn a bunch of CDs with the game on and sell em for like $10 a pop.
Then I saw pic and was like
>Oh yeah people have to see my face at a Con
Fuck me can't I sell at a table completely anonymously?

Just got out of the /beg/trap/ zone. Now I don’t even know what to say after finally being able to draw and actually improve now that I don't draw coom art.

I'm having chest pains. Guess I'll be six feet under soon if I don't go to an urgent care.

How do I train myself to do social media as an autist?

>>7640217
False alarm, it turns out I’m just not stretching enough.

>>7638483
some people hire people to handle the sales

>>7641325
if you're an actual autist it's going to be way more difficult than the average person and you may not even be able to do it. the only exception to this is if you're an extremely gifted at drawing then people won't care how socially retarded you are

I thought I had my art style nail down until I started posting it on social media, no one gave a shit no matter how much I shill it. Nobody cares, and I mean, NOBODY cares. I thought I had my art style nail down until I started posting it on social media, no one gave a shit no matter how much I shill it. Nobody cares, and I mean, NOBODY cares. There are people with shitty anime Korean styled drawings getting more interaction than me, I'm utterly retarded for thinking that skill and practice was all I needed, I have to draw ugly genshin impact characters to entertain people. I'm miserable right now and I can't bring myself to get angry, just sad. I wanna hang a thick rope around my neck drawings getting more interaction than me, I'm utterly retarded for thinking that skill and practice was enough, I have to draw ugly genshin impact characters to entertain people. I'm miserable right now and I can't bring myself to get angry, just depressed. I wanna hang a thick rope around my neck