Thread 7606568

Please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates or howies and instead focus on posted works and sketches!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

>Cool teachers
Glenn Vilppu
Michael Hampton
Steve Huston
Brent Eviston
Marco Bucci
Andrew Loomis
George Bridgman
Hikaru Hayashi

>Cool books
Keys To Drawing
Drawing With the Right Side of the Brain
How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way
The Art and Science of Drawing
Framed Perspective
Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
The Complete Guide to Drawing From Life

Last thread: >>7604651

you shouldn't use symmetry tool for irises etc right? seems like it'll end up unbalanced, just doing some planning for my c
also I hope anon sees my drawing this thread
>>7606568 (OP)
feeling personally called out by that forehead

It's over.

>>7606589
im glad you finally accepted it

the procreate hard brush sucks I need to switch to CSP and figure out symmetry rulers

>>7606568 (OP)
She seems to have done a lot of thinking

New commission, always feels great to draw for others. Anon what do you think?

>>7606573
Nasty girl with nasty lines, love it.

>>7606608
>always feels great to draw for others. Anon what do you think?
Only if you get paid for it.

>>7606589
not that bad

>>7606609
thanks!!!
>>7606608
very nice rendering, i think making the face a bit shorter and paying attention to proportions would make it even prettier

>>7606615
But I like tall girls with long necks, did I stretch it too far.

>>7606284
That long line is following the ASIS or the nobby bit at the front crest of the pelvis, and the sartorius which connects from that tip and crosses the thigh to connect below the knee to the tibia on the inside of the leg.

It's long and flat like a belt so it makes a noticable indentation on fit body types.

>>7606611
I just like drawing, might lower my price just to draw a lot.

>>7606608
The breast plate looks great but I think the blue cloth could have better rendering

>>7606619
don't ever lower prices
especially not in this economy

How good is the One by Wacom? I used to have a Gaomon S620 that had more pressure levels an overall area, but I don't know if sticking with these should be good for the long run.

Overall, traditional graphite pens feel good.

From imagination, is it acceptable? Need more curved contours at the end of the shapes for volume

I did this ._.

>>7606656
(ꈍᴗꈍ)

question for keys to drawing, am i prohibited from looking at my paper while drawing blind? I often times can't get the proportions right if i just draw blind that way.

>>7606668
skip this pseud book

>>7606669
your so called "advice" offers no insight but attempts to plant the seeds of insecurity into my heart.
either answer my damn question or fuck off instead of trying to drag me down because you are a salty little nigger.

>>7606668
yes, It's okay to not get the proportions right when drawing blind. It's meant to train you at other things not to be perfect

>>7606681
train me to do what?

Interesting that the last work was kinda answering other anon's question, they were only drawn from a different angle.
>>7605775
>>7606682

day one of 2 min gestures.
Lord have mercy

>>7606691
see the last person wins because they didn't make the torso disgustingly short while losing the stylization, they changed the proportions to fit the more realistic style and perspective. looks good, wouldn't really consider it a redline but it's cute

>>7606568 (OP)
holy fucking soul and appeal....

>>7606692
you like asses huh

>>7606697
It's the same person just more effort

>>7606656
kawaii desu ne

>>7606713
It reminds me, I haven't found a book that teaches how to draw realistic fat butt.

>>7606724
Yeah all of them teach square butts

>>7606656
not a redline, just a fanart (i wanted to draw her being pouty for some reason)

>>7606719
im pretty sure the last one was made by tomboyfag and the earlier one by another artist, no?

>>7606734
>tomboyfag mogging whoever did that redline damn straight

>>7606746
i wasn't paying attention last thread but looking now I'm 1000% sure that last one is tomboys lines i took a click glance at the other and it's not how he draws at all I think, tomboy has a really distinctive body style and that other person is more stylized/anime while tomboy does kinda realistic bodies

>>7606658
(◡w◡ )

>>7606721
Arigatou

>>7606732
Edit looks very nice

>>7606750
tomboy's redraw has a better understanding of fundies, and has the virtue of being a redraw. the other guy who did the redline is a poor artist, and a fucking tool for trying to mog at his skill level.

>>7606760
ehh i think he's just being lazy, I think I know who the og person is, they can draw good but just didn't think when they redlined and defaulted to symbol drawing. t. i symbol draw constantly due to being permabeg so can see it well

How the FUCK do I get my hand to stop shaking, bwos?

>>7606768
get some grips like these!
>>7606758
thanks!! glad you like it

>>7606772
Interesting! How do the grips stop my hand itself from shaking, though? I can see how they'd enable a better grasp on the pencil, but if your hand itself is shaking...

>>7606768
less masturbation, im going to recommend you 50mg of sex daily before drawing

Posted before, but seemed like it was shitposting hours, so didn't get any feedback. How is this? What could I improve?

>>7606773
they make your lines more stable, I promise. I wish I had an answer for you about how to make your hand stop shaking, but it really depends on what your specific problem. Can be from a few things. Mine is neurological but a lot of people get it from low blood sugar so make sure you eat breakfast before you draw and see if that helps it all. Another option is an adrenal problem or thyroid problem or a vitamin deficiency. Grips help a lot with line stability even if they don't correct your hands shaking themselves because your hand has something better to grip on to. If you really want your hands to shake less, hold something weighted. As an example, if I'm holding something with weight, my hands don't really shake as much, so you can try waiting your down a little bit somehow
I can't say that it'll work because it really depends on why your hands are shaking because some people have tremors that are worse when resting. Mine is worse with intention
But the grips really help me and they are definitely worth a shot because they're super cheap and help you have more stability

>>7606768
I played online fps games, that fixed two decades of hand shaking.

Been working on this for the past week. Some things are not finished yet, like the fan, or the edges of the dragons or the armrests, but still. How is it? I should probably make the shadow under her leg darker too.

Is there anything that looks kinda weird or wrong? Any criticism is welcome.

>>7606776
>smug teto
probably loomis

>>7606778
Mine shakes due to injury, so I'm right there with you. I'll give the grips a go, I appreciate it! Keep at it, anon. Makes me happy that there's someone out there toughing it out through something that makes drawing feel so goddamn agonizing.

>>7606713
Not in particular. I have a folder of like ~3k cosplayer images i use for references.
The images were picked at random by gesturesesh

>>7606787
YES I am touching it out, I will not stop, I'm determined and you will be too! Mine is from some kind of brain damage, we'll get there! I draw lots and you can too

>>7606776
Line quality is whack. Try to be a bit more careful, sketch with a super light hand and when you know what the right line is, then press down the lead harder

>>7606792
>Looks this good through all the horseshit
Fuck man, maybe I really can. Keep it up, anon, you've absolutely got at least one guy rooting for ya.

>>7606798
also physical therapy if you can! You'd be shocked, or occupational is good for hand stuff. I did lots of it for my lower body, not my hands, and it made a big help for injury/damage related quality of life. If you have the financial option, seek out occupational help. I heard they have methods for helping with fine motor and dexterity by teaching you other tasks - let's say someone wants to get back into knitting and crochet and doesn't have fine motor for it, so they start with weaving and build up - if you can, it's definitely worth inquiring! I can't afford it now but it was a treasure when I had it on insurance
Thank you so much! You can do it too

>>7606776
you should put on something other than pajama pants... slut

>>7606573
seen noonie

>>7606813
mines on the very edge...
i knew it was slop...

>>7606656
I drew her gooning.

>>7606803
I'll look into PT! I don't know what's stopped me from going so far, I think I just felt like it wasn't "bad enough" because it's not stopping me from walking or anything. Will also keep occupational help in mind for when I've got a bit more cash. Really appreciate the push towards it, anon.

>>7606815
It's the best one yet.

Aiza anon please don't look!

>>7606817
You don't even realize often how much these things affect you because if it's affecting your hands in drawing, it's probably affecting you in lots of ways you don't even notice that adds to your daily frustration. It's really helpful to just get it understood even if you don't feel like it's enough or you don't deserve the help because you aren't injured enough, you really don't know how much better it can be. As an example, I'd love to seek it out because one of the things that I struggle with is things like unloading the dishwasher because I have poor fine motor so picking up silverware is really hard. Or opening and tearing bags or chopping food so I have to get everything pre-chopped. Learning accessibility mechanisms is one of the best parts of physical therapy and occupational help, And I can't recommend it enough. I really hope that you get into the position to seek it out nonnie!

>>7606815
Too grotesque, i suppose it's appealing for people with an uglification fetish

On average, how long are you guys' process of sketch to finished art?

>>7606829
3 hours and it doesnt look as anatomically botched as yours does

>>7606829
4 to 6 hours

Wow just checked the last thread damn these move fast now.

>>7606682
>>7606109
>>7606224

Thanks for the redraws gang. Didn't expect all this from my post.

>Drawing with procreate, trying to figure out how tablets work
>Draw the curvature of the drawing's hair
>Collapses into a flat line when I let up the pencil (picrel, you can see one of the hair flippies and the flat line which the rest of the hair collapsed into)
>Palm rejection works like, half of the time, constantly having shit mess up
What the fuck is happening?

>>7606832
>>7606833
Thanks for the answer/s.

Is there a way to make guidelines feel less in the way? They're always overlapping critical parts of the drawing, and I feel like I can't draw in said critical parts because the guidelines are almost perfectly (or at least enough to prevent me from seeing what I'm doing) overlapping with the non-guide lines.

an exercise

>>7606856
You're tapping into mech now

>>7606862
it was kind of an accident but it looks kinda cool

>>7606841
Wear a drawing glove and turn off finger drawing.

Holding a line at the end causes it to turn into a straight line. Same for circles and other shapes. You might be able to turn it off in the settings.

>>7606760
>>7606760
>>7606746
That wasn't tomboy fag's redline lmao, he still cannot draw perspective points

>>7606877
bro you are retarded and faceblind, this is how tomboyfag draws faces

>>7606877
so mad i (you)'d twice

>>7606879
Oh the irony, its so funny

>>7606883
oh maybe it was his mentor

>>7606784
Neck is quite thick for this style, you can get away with making it much thinner for anime illustrations. Lower face is also short, move the mouth and chin lower. Finally get rid of the hint of her thumb on the hand holding the fan, it's not visible in that pose and it'll make the hand look more natural. That said, nice rendering on the clothing and body, and props for doing not just a background, but an interesting background.

holy shit tomboyfag and subu really just are merging into one amorphous hybridization now that i look

Where am I going wrong in my process? I feel like I'm critically fucking the drawing process like using a pencil backwards and crippling myself?

>PYW
https://files.catbox.moe/vmxebl.png
https://files.catbox.moe/3pbjzc.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/ehin6x.png
https://files.catbox.moe/94v38k.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/xtnid4.png
https://files.catbox.moe/t9a9cs.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/7csm2l.png
https://files.catbox.moe/g58ahc.png
https://files.catbox.moe/l0odbd.png
https://files.catbox.moe/okd1nv.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/nzy9iq.png
https://files.catbox.moe/xgizym.png
https://files.catbox.moe/bacber.mp4

this shit is HARD

this shit is HARD

>>7606834
I have nothing to contribute, I just want to be included.

>>7606815
B-B-Based

>>7606900
You're good, you just need to touch up on your anatomy/proportions. Lots of too-long legs and too-short arms

>>7606900
You should study some real girls every day, or anytime you decide to draw. You don't have to go overboard, just like 20-30min.
I think you just need to get more comfortable with some of the shapes, especially on the arms and legs.
I'll try to redline your first pic to point out some weirdness I see.

>>7606936
> study real girls for 30 mins
Haven't met one for a decade. Am I doomed as an artist... *continues drawing from imagination*

>>7606942
bruh just use quick poses in the OP you don't need to have a real life model, just draw from reference.

how to convince a girl to pose for me

>>7606900
mogs me, talented rat bastard

Water. If I were to do it again I’d break up the forested hill into 2 or more parts

>>7606945
>>7606950
Actually, I've been practicing rotating refs (by one axis) lately. Today, I read a yet another medical book about anatomy.
There are also artbooks that twist human body as if it were a clay figure.
I don't know how to study realistic muscle movement. I dislike how rigid the shapes appear, regardless of the pose.

where's the DAMN thread challenge

>>7606960
thread challenge

>>7606945
I see the similarity.
I referenced pic related of last thread. She might be a child, judging from proportions- hard to draw, because it defies much you learned of where stuff needs to be placed.
Also I noticed way too late that the picture was AI generated.

still copying silly pigeons because I cant really figure out what I want to really learn to draw as a beg and its better to draw something than nothing

>>7606829
unfortunately,
not long enough

What's your favourite colouring brush?

>>7606963
>>7606945
moved stuff a bit around. What do you think? Better?
Or do i have to stoop to overlaying. It sure still looks wrong.

>>7606961
please...

>>7606973
I didn't realize the other thread died.
>>7606872
>Wear a drawing glove
Fucking this. Mine came last week and my life feels so much easier now. I recommend to anyone who's suffering with your lines and can't figure out why. Your hands should be as greasy as mine.

>>7606900
What the fuck are you complaining about you fucking nigger?
You got solid perspective, fundies and enough spatial talent to draw your stuff in perspective.
What the fuck are you bitching about? FUCK YOU NIGGER. FUCK YOU.

>>7606890
Greetings. Thanks a lot for the crit!! Yeah i have a problem doing anime faces. I notice everyone does them differently so it's hard to pinpoint where something goes objectively wrong when it's so subjective. Still i'll give it a fresh look tomorrow and see if moving the facial features in the way you suggested makes more sense to me. Also it's true anime necks are very thin. I was looking at some to study and could only think "wtf they are so thin". Probably went too far in the other direction to compensate.
Also thanks for the tip on the hands. I see it now.

i got my main disc temporarily suspended for spam suspicion because i tried to send pictures during the file downage so if you try to dm me I won't be able to reply to threadfrens, just reach out on twitter

>>7606980
fixes.
Surprisingly did match it somewhat before.
Either way it cannot be recovered because the lines are unsatisfying. If they weren't before they sure aren't now.

>>7606971
my own

Couldn't draw hands

>>7606988
you showed him bro

>>7606996
reminds me of that cartel video where they break all this guy's fingers with a machete and they're just dangling from his hand

>>7606999
I can handle a lot of old school gore vids but cartel vids are just built different
Crazy beaners

>>7606691
Another ref.

storyboard.

>>7606958
I'm not very good but hopefully I've detailed some things that might help

>>7606900
It' not like I'd do any better but I think your clothes just don't have enough volume, you could probably do nude edits of most of your girls without touching the contour and the guy in armor should be twice as wide.

>>7604811
Late

>>7606958
reel it back a little and don't worry about complex anatomy right now.
what you want is doing gesture stuff like focusing on the weight and balance of a pose. Basic shapes and how they're interacting with eachother.
you also need to reel it back even farther and train your eye to be more critical of lengths and sizes of stuff. Practice from reference and really try to get the proportions accurate. It's very difficult but the more you do it the better you'll get at it.

>>7607011
Bottom left panel reads poorly.

some imagination doodles because I'm banned from discord for 24 hours and have nothing else to do

>>7607023
Neat
Wish more people did cartoon stuff, anime fatigue is real

Pinterest refs. I finally got to the Bridgman's part about the skull so I'll probably get a lot more into anatomy studies. Probably later today but I kinda want to do more figs/doodles today.

>>7606933
Yeah some of my friends have told me that
>>7606988
No, a very very very limited perspective, i struggle with extreme angles. Also if you watch some of the videos notice how i fuck up the face like 30 times, that is also a problem for me faces, it eats like 1/2th the time of every drawing because i draw a face fuck it up, have to redraw it, fuck it up, again and again. I have alot of other flaws but pointing them all out isn't productive.
>>7607016
Hmm, know of any artists who have drawing videos who do clothing well?

>>7607052
But honesty i probably just need more milage sadly, nothing can replace that

>>7607033
Was trying to make it more appealing, but then realised I'm probably wasting my time, since it's just supposed to roughly get the point accross.

>>7607033
true, If I can't make something okay-ish in a short amount of time, I just call it quits, since this is just supposed to roughly get the point accross. Will definitely refine/redraw all the panels

Any advice on this? I feel like I am getting better at drawing faces, but I can't always pinpoint the errors. I feel like the farthest eye is incorrect? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

are you winning, anon?

>>7607066
no

Alright so how bad is it. I've almost never drawn legs or feet in my entire life.

https://files.catbox.moe/5zten2.png

>>7607066
whatever the opposite of winning is, I got caught in a discord spam ban and can't dm.my commissioner until tomorrow to update him
>>7607056
great motion on those gestural figures
>>7607049
awesome

>>7607073
why would you just go on the internet and lie?

>>7607077
Thank you. Cute fluff.

>>7607079
I didn't. The first try the legs were as long a sthe original ref but it didn't look right. Feet were way smaller too.

Posted this last thread and followed one anon's correction, thanks.
Still, more suggestions?

>>7607079
talented rats are also lying rats, you should know already

>>7607064
think just general proportions are a little off and maybe you should see a little bit of the far side's cheek

>>7607087
I wish I was talented. Would've gotten better in a year instead of 4.

>>7607086
>more suggestions
hog tie and rape her smug little ass

>>7607089
4 years for this?

>>7607086
head smaller please

>>7607089
>it was permabegbro
sorry my fellow comrade

>>7607091
pyw

>>7607091
A lot of it was meandering about not taking things seriously. Last year was practicing figure sketches using Proko and Hampton to learn. This year is simplified skeleton for anatomy study.

>>7607064
ears could use some work, use a reference, and gain a new ear fetish.

I still have so much to learn and I can only draw on the weekends. It's gonna take me 20 years to get out of beg...

>>7607097
even if you do, you never really leave

>>7607095
do you have a job or something or just don't care

>>7607099
Got work. NEET days are over.

one day ill escape prebeg.. my imagination doodles .... Save me discord ban....

someday. SOMEDAY I WILL ESCAPE PREBEG. SOMEDAY
>>7607086
head too big for body, just try downsizing it
>>7607082
awesome, very atmospheric

them talented rats! all cocky with their good drawings, i'll show em

>>7607097
I have a different mentality, "I'm not a beg anymore, no matter what my peers, mentors or anons said." Believe in yourself, just as he believed in you.

>>7607089
Hibicute.

im addicted to drawing on MS paint, I like to redraw images in my own kinda style as practice with anatomy and stuff, also just regularly draw and doodle. but I think this isnt a good way to study. Any suggestions? Its like the only way I can draw digitally. I want to improve more but im addicted to this shitty software.

>>7606784
nice work. tried something lyl. no need heed but some pointers:
‐legs are too big (mb im too loli pilled), top one doesn't properly rest on the other and her ass is floating
‐either make the dragons and stuff in perspective or make it front on like i did
‐the shadows are a bit muddy for clean anime style. also with folds it's good to be conservative and keep the forms clean
‐kind of again about the bg, try to make it serve the composition. here i did so by framing the character with light and making things nice and symmetric and also notice the leading lines into the character
‐made the head bigger
‐added the foot as it looks awkward cut off and added some breathing room up top

i'd probs also make the floor kinda glossy/light to have a nice rhythm of light/dark/light, maybe have the light peek from under the chair

>>7607105
mom look! i made it!!! deerfag just said my drawing was cool

>>7607121
he says that to everyone

>>7607121
doesnt matter

Total garbage, nothing comes to mind, bending these bodies is some kind of nonsense

>>7607066
I tried drawing one of those sweaty, half naked strongfat dudes with chest hair I keep seeing people draw but I ended up with this somehow.
I need to gaymaxx or something, either hit the gym until I have this bodytype or hit Grindr until I have this bodytype on top of me

>>7607121
a more specific compliment: the atmosphere, angle and and the sort of lumpy way you did the mechanical objects adds a lot of soulful fluidity and the fact the piece is at a slant adds a lot to it, I need to take inspiration from you next time I attempt a full composition. kind of reminds me of some impressionistic cityscape painters you see teach the end on those art competition art shows, just very nicely stylized. im especially fond of the fence and bicycle wheel, id love to see more full comps from you
(Hopefully this is better than an ambiguous compliment)

>>7607135
for you

mfw I try drawing but fuck up the proportions

>>7607133
https://files.catbox.moe/7rqb4c.jpg

>>7607141
this one was better and I think his expression is fun

>>7607097
Can you draw for 15-20 minutes a day? I'd recommend you to do shorter figures just to do something if it's possible.

>>7607086
She's going to need a thicker neck and a stronger core in order to support that head. And very big feet to make sure she doesn't lose balance

>>7607144
only two more sorry for the spam
I like this one and maybe it's easier bc the face is covered but the clothing creases turned out alright and the proportions aren't too botched

and last one
I like the bruises on the smaller guy's neck, I think it looks decent proportion wise if I take my glasses off
the face on the twink was hard to get right, the top looks really hot though I'd love a guy like that
also his erection has action marks lol

well, looks like only NEETs can make it

>>7607136
Wow, thank you. that's a heavy compliment. But honestly, I feel like im a one-trick pony. People keep saying I have a very "stylized" art style and that I'm going for something specific, but the truth is, I just can't do much better than this yet. I keep trying to make good backgrounds, but they always end up feeling kind of lumpy. I guess I’m lucky some people find it soulful, but I really want to improve so I can actually draw the things I imagine.

>>7607149
i wanna rub my weiner on the cut scars...

>>7607149
P A I G E K I N O

>>7607117
I love paint too anon, I usually doodle something when I work. It doesn't give me uuuh choice fatigue, because it has so few options.

you improve regardless of the tools you use.

>>7607153
cute...

>>7607154
y-you too

>>7607152
i feel you, similar boat to me. i want to get technically better, and a lot of people say "hey you have so much soul" and it's like, i like my soul but i want to be more technically efficient too. im sure you'll get where you want to be soon, doing complex compositions is the right choice. i think if you want to work more on backgrounds too you can try thumbnailing, I see a lot of people do that.

>>7607149
gmi

>>7607082
sort of agree with deeranon. I like the composition

>>7607149
Why do you keep getting nuked all the time?

>>7607162
they're at least trying something different even if there's technical improvement to be had, which means a lot. you don't see a lot of scenes with objects and dimension here.

>>7607146
I can but... what's the point of drawing in so little time? Does it even help? What I want to improve the most right now is clothing and anatomy. Maybe I should practice figures idk.

>>7607171
janny abuse of power on another board

>>7607175
i don't even think it's worth posting on that board anymore

>>7607175
Okay. I thought it was because the stuff they draw is borderline guro most of the time

>>7607105
what make you think you are prebeg? or were you being sarcastic when you said that?

>>7607184
i honestly just mean beg and was frustration posting, i know im past prebeg but sometimes especially when drawing from imagination like i was there i feel retarded/below beg level

>>7607174
Staying consistent makes it easier to stay motivated

>>7607176
old habits die hard, been there since I was a stupid teenager and on this site since I was a dumb kid lol

>>7607179
eh this is a red board plus it's kind of like anatomy study of you think about it
still think this study is one of the better recent ones I've done

>>7607186
Oh okay, i think you are very good so i thought it was strange of you to say sot, but i guess everyone doubts themselves

>>7607190
I just hope I can get out of beg level someday, always feeling stuck improvement wise. Thank you

>>7607189
Guro is not allowed outside /b

so should i not draw ze box if i'm depressed and suicidal?

>>7607198
it might save your life or it might make you crazy. idk im not really a professional you should see a professional

>>7607198
Therapy is for women (no, really). It doesn't work for men. Draw the box if you are male.

>>7607198
DBT has helped me a lot with this, it doesn't make depression go away but it gives you the ability to handle anyone that normal people have

>>7607204
not a woman and therapy has helped me

>>7607204
is this why ((they)) can't draw the box

I'm not cut for this. There's nothing left.

>>7607204
but what if i wanna be a woman...

art

>>7607198
>seek help
and what if no one wants to help me... without charging an exuberant fee...

Me when I suddenly realize that “getting good” at art isn’t like a video game.
You can grind as much as you want, but the progress isn’t linear. Some days you’ll feel like total shit, and other days you’ll think you’re a god. I’m so inconsistent

>>7607198
By the 9000th box Anon no longer cared about the prebeg crab’s seething.

I fucking hate everything I draw.

>>7607121
she cute

Attempt 3

>>7607221
important realization on the path to enlightenment

WIPping

>>7607279
holy shit that's a good picture. this inspires me to draw gooner slop, i never did so, but i might join the dark side now.

>>7607285
yep, i wish i could draw... My copy isnt even close to the reference.

tried to do a study (i failed)

>>7607278
you've cool ideas

we're all study failures in here

>>7605022
Page 22 done, I hope this is alright, I'm too screwed up at the moment to do a proper check on typos and shit. About the mask, I know the book says that "Severian smiled at the Alcalde's nervousness behind his mask", but I needed Severian to kiss Morwenna with the mask on, in this dreamy fantasy of his. So that's that.
>>7606856
Tremor-Mecha?! The world is not ready!
>>7606923
Perfection
>>7606982
You're fucking amazing anon. You're in kino mode right now, thanks for sharing!
>>7607029
Thank good you did that challenge! SAVED!
>>7607049
Ah, I wish I could do this. Crazy talent. That's what "confident lines" means right there
>>7607056
Saved
>>7607135
Waoh, so much with so little, prime example of less is more rith there. He's even walking and everything, excellent sketch

>>7607292
Mogs me.
>>7607306

>>7607312
>>7607313
Glad you like it

>>7606568 (OP)
help me how do i shade better

>>7607337
Shading is your last problem anon

>>7607292
I like it.

I always struggle to properly position/size ears and I don't know why.

>>7606813
>my scribble made it in
Blessed

>>7606814
Fear not Anon, we're all gonna make it.

>buy pastel chalk just to experiment with
>somehow my drawings have improved instantly
Don't get me wrong, I know my drawings aren't without plenty of faults... but sanguine pencils seem like a cheat code over regular graphite pencils and I don't know why

>>7607097
We're all /beg/ at something Anon. We'll get there. Take heart.

Listen to the other Anon's. They're right.

Can anyone who uses CSP on an android tab show me your UI setup? I feel like I should try getting used to studio mode instead of simple but there's so much shit.

>>7607359
more pressure sensitivity. graphite pencils are designed to leave a consistent amount of material on the page for better legibility and just not be too dark in general.

paypal has taken almost 10% of my money by now

>>7607064
copy and study Mononoke The Movie shots and character sheet

>>7607373
how many % has the tax man taken from you?

>post my work
>get ignored anyways
sigh

>>7607387
i think about 50~60 dollars, which is a lot for me!

Chatgpt called my art /int. Later begcels

I saw a very talented anon. He was 20 years old.
I am below subhuman

>>7607405
>Pushing 20's...
It's over for him too

Tomorrow i'll respond to people who post tomorrow

>>7607388
Which one's your work

i saw a guy with a big dick
he's only 19
it's over for me

Holy fucking shit I actually have to do Loomis won't I... I've been copying anime heads for years without understanding them and I hit a wall so tremendously you wouldn't believe

>>7607415
What does your work look like today and how did you manage to come to that conclusion?

I'm trying to do the ball and plane method and I seriously don't know what I'm doing. That's the problem I'm having. All of this looks too complicated.

started keys to drawing, using krita. what brush should i use for shading because the same one for lines obviously isn't right

>>7607420
It only looks complicated, but it will begin to make sense once your anxiety subsides. It's natural to struggle with new concepts, so just keep at it.

oh now i see why people think retarded useless details are good for a desing
it's from that genshin impact shit

I've barely drawn these past few months, but I think i've done it better and faster than when I took drawing seriously.

>>7607424
I like using these brushes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6_K_Fb-rYs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlDNC1P0We0

>>7607312
i really like the line "devour her precious face" peril !! and the inhumane festival line...
enjoying all of the cultural references and use of the term of exalted "nature"
really enjoying the background faces as well and the scene set up!!
Thank you!!!

>>7607435
Yeah, it's better for sure. I'd guess that even if you stop drawing for a bit you're still passively observing the world around you as an artist would.

Is he cute?

>>7607466
shit nigga shouldnt have opened it at 3am

>>7607431
Kakeguri?

Resisting my urge to mald at my inability to do faces. Looking at some anime i just now realize just how wonky the faces look there too, maybe the issues is in my eyes and not in my art

What is the hardest head angle to draw?

>>7607184
It's just a mockery, considering that it's a woman, it's not particularly surprising

>>7607477
well in general, any extreme angle can look weird. so those are hard to make look good.
but this specific angle always looks strange, even when pros do it.

>>7607487
I'm trying to learn to draw my character in every head angle eventually. So maybe I'll try doing the extreme ones too, but below angle is still beyond me

>>7607413
This >>7607279

Another soulless drawing
I don't think I can enjoy drawing anymore

>>7607504
>why am I so good at drawing this is torture
>its suffering

>>7607506
So you're saying I'm good at it?
Thanks I guess

>>7607420
Use this:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLYcCSctp38kc8bJeWPs_xRqR1rpIujOE3

>>7607511
GEARBOX HIRE THIS MAN

>>7607418
I did this today because I wanted to confirm I have a problem, and I realized I don't know what I'm doing at all and just cover it up half the time.

marvel at this perfect int-level figgie guys, you couldn't improve upon it even if you tried

>>7607533
I-i kneel

>>7607533
so its really true that knees aren't aligned with the feet

Doodling at work.

I really suck.

too hot?

>>7607557
She looks great. Tits are a bit too round for a no-bra pic, I'd make them a bit saggier. But she looks great, I can see this doing numbers in social media

These are bigger than j cups, right?

>>7607557
Nice

>>7607571
maybe something like this?

>I can see this doing numbers in social media
lol i wish haha

>>7607557
>>7607576
beautiful as always
whens the next foxgal?

>>7607579
>whens the next foxgal?
quite soon, i'm taking my time with this one tho.

>>7607468
Kurogane Otoha

>>7607335
nice, i'd give her a reacharound

>>7607312
>>7605022
Good Lord, Michel Focault ain't got shit on this. Eat your heart out baldie.

>>7607622
we should be honored to have someone like perilfag among us
>>7607557
very cute, but something about her ear sway i think would look better if her ears were more alert and upright? the direction they're facing just looks a bit off. adorable drawing otherwise though
>>7607533
i kneel
>>7607511
sexo
>>7607487
god that upper left naked head is demonic
>>7607504
looks like the guy from the apothecary diaries
>>7607526
when drawing anime profiles aim for something more like the last one than the first one, imo. looks smoother. nice work

>>7607626
Thanks for being so positive anon...

am I still /beg/ ? What should I practice to be /int/?

>>7607633
its genuine, art is cool

>>7607634
hatching

>>7607634
int easy, i just would do a bit more consistent crosshatching and work on your values so it looks more 3d! like as an example look at the density in some of your shadows like the part of the underside of the rhinos head and how it interacts with the shadows. that'll make it look much more 3d

>>7607626
>looks like the guy from the apothecary diaries
It's not.. It's illumi from hxh
I havent watched apothecary diaries yet but i will, perhaps itll give me a new muse to draw. Is it good? It'll be a tie between that one and wind breaker after I finish slam dunk. I heard wind breaker has a hot guy so it's definitely on the top of my list... but the apothecary diaries guy looks hot as well...
For now take my Hisoka sketch.

>>7607639
as long as you like shoujo, i personally fucking love the apothecary diaries

>>7607641
Hmm I'll take it into consideration.
I like any anime/manga with interesting characters regardless of the genre.. sports, slice of life, etc. Doesn't matter.
Having hot guys helps too. And I must say he does look like a snack. Thanks for the recommendation

>>7607643
the main female protagonist is also really cool if that matters to you at all and jinshi is cute
nice hisoka btw very clean

>keys to drawing
>learn to draw blind 3-4 times
what does that mean? So per individual line counts as one time?
Also, what if you can't tick all the boxes in the end of chapter exercise?Are you just fucked?

>>7607533
>you couldn't improve upon it
Yeah I can

>>7607660
please fix the 8 years old part because otherwise this is really hot but that isn't even funny it just makes me feel like I should die for looking at it. please. im fixing it myself

>>7607660
nice until the horsecock

I fixed it.

Drawing boxes over random reference images helped me understand perspective a lot better. I feel the improvement bros...

>>7607652
I don't care much for females but if the character is good it should be no problem. I hope she's not one of those annoying characters. That would suck.
Thanks, finished it just now

using this brush to line these was a mistake I may need to just start over

I dont know if anyone will recognise but I made a thread like 2 months ago and was basically told I wasn't as good as I thought I was once I posted my work and needed more time in the grind mines. Well, I've redrawn the same thing I posted 2 months ago now, has substantial progress been made anons?

I'm tired so the feet are super phoned in and the beachballs are way too high up on her chest. Might fix when I wake up.
I've been working at 5k by 5k pixels but this was done in an effort to getting used to a canvas half that size.

>>7607639
>>7607671
>1 hour
I kneel, King.

>>7607576
Love your linework, anon.

>>7607466
I like him.

>>7607673
unfortunately, you got way worse, actually.

I'm so sorry for your loss

>>7607673
Is the redraw in the room with us?
You mean you drew the same character in a different pose? Because these two pictures look nothing alike.
As far as progress, little has changed, and I am assuming left is old and new is right. So the colors on the right one look slightly better.
The quality however changes throughout the picture, there's jagged lines all over and clean lines, there's part left white and not filled in, the anatomy has not improved, dare I say regressed even if I can only judge by these two pictures,

>>7607673
sorry man, the left one has a lot more appeal than the right one. I agree with >>7607678 your colors improved, but the left has significantly more appeal.

oh god this brush was a fucking mistake holy shit LMFAOOO do not draw boxes with a soft chisel brush

before i move forward with this sketch. anything glaringly wrong or with it or something i could improve to make it better? always appreciate any help:3

>>7607689
left's head seems a bit small

>>7607678
Yeah, I drew the character in a different pose because I was origanally told the left image had low appeal because he wasn't doing anything, so I tried to fix that. Honestley, that fucking hurts to read but I just need to do better in that case. How do I avoid getting worse though? I've been doing box excersizes and master studies of artists I like since but are those bad for you?

>>7607695
Bro honestly just draw. Take a ref pic and draw. I tried to draw your pose for the past 10 mins this is what I ended up with. Surely if I rendered it it would look better than yours. not flexing, just trying to make my point clear. but honestly, I've never studied shit, never drawn boxes, all I've been doing is just copying.
Find some character you like to draw, and draw it, find 100 pics on Pinterest and draw it. Try to take in consideration the line weight, measure the lines, etc.

>>7607701
bro, you're ngmi too

>>7607701
Yeah yours is cooler, or, has more personality. Ive been doing what you said though, just trying to be more aware what I'm drawing too...Ok well theirs nothing more to it. I'll come back and practice harder tomorrow.

>>7607701
are you high

>>7607660
>>7607709
based

>>7607695
While the one on the right looks worse, it's also a more complex pose and lighting. I'd say your ability to execute a drawing is about the same but your ideas have improved, probably from the master studies. Those aren't bad for you, keep them up, but also do some photo/real life studies.

>>7607709
neelix found out about her species aging process and went to jerk off in her quarters

I don't get how to properly decide how to draw the ellipse "side" of the face using loomis.

>>7607702
Already made it bro. I made that in 10 min and made this in 1 hour >>7607671
Seethe and cope

>>7607708
I recommend trying to understand how to study, how to learn, how to absorb information. Not just in drawing, in everything. Age plays a role for me, when I was 21 I couldn't care less, even if I really wanted something, to learn something, it just didn't stick. Now I'm old and shriveled up but absorb information (and convert it to skill) much more easily. Inb4 drunken rambles from an ancient guy on a mongolian basket weaving forum, I hope you do understand what I'm trying to say. Keep going, we're all gonna make it, that includes you. Ignore crabs who don't post their work and have nothing of value to say from here on out. I agree heavily with >>7607716 that the ideas you're trying to execute are much improved. Keep challenging yourself with difficult poses (always use a ref and overlay it on your drawing if you have to) until shit starts to feel less difficult.

>>7607710
Drunk. Middle aged alcoholic

ninjin

found this in my files. what do we think of western cartoon style? I haven't drawn like this in ages, but it's kinda endearing

>>7607723
>>7607708
Even if their negative, it's all I've got to go off critique wise. I think maybe I did challenge myself too much with the drawing on right but if I've gotten worse then I really do need to fix something in how I practice.

>>7607714
I like your study, have a shitty fanart

talent

>>7607709
Imagine the selfpaizuri

>>7607692
thanks for pointing that out! I see what you mean and tried to play around it with it till I just redrew the faces. updated version

>>7607673
Honestly I really like the new colors. I also like the pose, I feel like the thing skewing the whole picture is the face placement. You did improve, its just the right side had a more difficult angle and it was easy to mess up a little. How about redrawing it with a reference on hand? Try again, don't give up. You can fix it:)

>>7607671
so clean!!

>>7607221
common problem I believe, couple days ago I saw a youtube video talking about tempo in drawing, how when you have these 'holy shit i cant do anything right' days it's bc youre doing it too fast or too slow. I started using music to combat it (i.e fast music if youre being sluggish and slow when youre too caffinated and adhd) that helps kinda

>>7607765
Looks a lot better now

>>7607765
>>7607673
Thanks. I did use a reference though, I used a picture of myself

read the first thirty pages of perspective drawing handbook and feel like this again

>>7607769
You can read 300 pages, but if you don't understand anything then it's all for nothing

>>7607812
I think I'm kind of getting it, just very very slowly but I have to write down and paraphrase a lot of stuff to understand

It looked better before I did the face desu

damn favelachad is improving fast, what the fuck. just saw this on his twitter

>>7607841
Buy an ad favelamonkey
Despite that, yeah it looks great

>>7607056
One more I started last night

what is the three quarters view exactly? 3/4ths of what? why is it called that?

>>7607841
talent

Clothing study. Any notes are very welcomed !

>>7607864
Cause 3 out of 4 times when I try to draw it I want to kms

>>7607841
Something about this screams AI assist. I can't really put my finger on it. Is it the background or shading. Or am I just being a schizo. Genuine question and not trying to crab

>>7607864
>3/4ths of what?
1.9 centimeters...

>>7607864
You can see 3/4 of the face. That's literally it

>>7607873
Looks very nicely rendered, but overall accuracy to the ref is low, not sure if that was intended but you can get away with it cuz it's clothes

>>7607884
probably using AI to color pick like other artists who go pro here do, it's the values

>>7607118
Thanks a lot for the crit. That is a lot of changes. But I do see where it's coming from and a lot of stuff does make more sense there. Im not very used to drawing bgs, so looking at this I feel I don't think about the composition enough. Idk if I'll be able to add all of that considering how the piece is almost done, but I'll try to meet it in the middle between that correction and current version. Will probably have to finish messing with a gajillion layers and just have to treat it as a 1layer painting to do something like this.
Still, really, thanks a lot for taking ur time for this. Really appreciated!!

>>7607899
i wonder when people will find out that the process is so easy you don't even need to color pick something

>>7607899
>the "pro" in question justifying AI
Reminder that bugmen often walk among humans, and they don't have a soul.

>>7607912
explain?

>>7607899
People are autists by nature, so we can kinda tell when something is off. Even if we can't pinpoint what exactly is off. In this case uncanny valley but for colors I guess

>>7607916
what the fuck

>>7607921
My nigga subu is good boy. He got fucked over by his commissioner there. He explained how his comm did him dirty. I have forgiven him for this one as he admitted his own stupidity and took blame

>>7607918
>pick a color
>lower hue 4 - 8 (except blue/ish ones)
>lower light 15 - 30
>lower saturation 25 - 50
now you have your shadow color
>use add glow and multiply later on some spots
it's like a formula, probably won't work to advanced stuff, but works for simple stuff

>>7607916
Now I remember that Subu took LunaticSoda and tomboyfag under his mentorship.
Seeing LunaticSoda's work just tracing over AI makes me realize this favelanigger must be doing the same.
His latest background work was blatantly some AI shit and when confronted he just said it was from the asset store trying to hide his tracks.
Sus shit.

>>7607926
I hate diginiggers so fucking much.

this is subus art, isn't it?

>>7607927
because it's just a leaf brush, retard

>>7607924
>subu in the thread
Why do you talk in the third person? Nice discord, the reaction to your shitty redlines must've hurt your ego real bad... >>7607933
>>7607927
Yeah I wouldn't trust someone using AI in his process, my favorite /beg/ advice he gave was "You should use AI for reference, it's more easier than using pictures, and more accurate than someone else's art" (ironic if you know of his copying habits).

>>7607928
evolve or perish

oh man

>>7607938
swallowing a pill shaped like a box

>>7607926
How do I color pick on trad. Please help

>>7607939
swallowing a cock shaped like a box

>>7607940
sorry, i don't know...

>>7607940
With your eyes

>>7607942
It's over...

>>7607940
Read Color and Light by James Gurney

>>7607948
Digibros can just skip all this reading and get software to do it for them..

>>7607950
>fixation on a tool instead of fundies
I sentence you to permabeg hell, good luck!

You merely adopted the permabeg hell. I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't go from prebeg to beg until I was already a man.

>>7607723
i don't have anything to gain to convince you that you're bad, I'll just let you be. It sucks that you're middle aged and still draw like that though

>>7606963
I don't think it's AI, the ornaments seem to be perfectly symmetrical, AI usually has trouble with that.

>>7607969
You stopped using your trip doll?

>>7607964
no, i am in permabeg hell, i was forged by its fires and will die in its fires

>>7607976
I only use the trip on /lsg/

How do I get good line quality without using a stabilizer

>>7607933
No
>>7607935
Also not me, I never said this. Please don't spread misinformation about me please

>>7607969
check her neck.
It's AI

>>7607999
Nta. You know that dolls have that knob that lets the head rotate 360 degrees. I don't think it's AI either

is the AI in the room with us right now?

Wanted to do a couple figs but ended up doing horses through pinterest recs. Going to continue with Bridgeman later today.

>>7607725
Cute uma.

*AI assists out of /beg/*
Kneel to the new generation of /int/s, permabegcels

>>7607992
Imagine having to hang out in /beg/ because your peers hate you. Is /asg/ too mean because you're an insufferable faggot? Have fun impressing clueless begs, and giving fundamentally bad advice to your students. You're a soul vacuum, bugman.

tfw getting bored with a doodle a third of the way through so u rush it and it looks shit

>>7608008
lol no i hang out in /asg/ from time to time too

>>7608006
excellent
>>7608009
P A I G E K I N O i like the pose and situation here

>>7608010
for what it's worth. I don't hate you. I know you ain't a bad dude.

Hello anons, I haven't posted here in a few days neither have I drawn anything in a few days either. I wanted to try practicing some shading, so I chose a picture in google and wanted to draw a character onto it.

I'm a little bad with perspective, so I'd like to know how it looks so far. Should I make him bigger? smaller? does the right arm look right? I can resize/change everything easily as I used vector layers.

envy the successful

>>7607999
what the other anon said

>>7608020
i'm not good at scenes but i think you should use the reference to build a perspective grid first then start placing your character and other additions

fundies/comm break

today i didn't have time to draw very much

>>7608016
ty, I half used a reference for the pose but didn't follow it strictly bc I'm lazy
I think the bottom's facial expression turned out alright, strangely enough I feel like expressions are way easier to capture than poses or proportions

Another pointless attempt that gave nothing. Neither normal forms, nor perspective, nothing comes out, no matter how much you do this shit, I don't know what to do

>>7606568 (OP)
is it common for artists to ask YOU for commissions?
I published a small novel and i am flooded by dudes constantly wanting to charge me money to make a comic out of it.
I am pretty sure they are scammers but they don't look like bots

>>7608045
it happens sometimes

learncel

>>7608006
Thanks! I enjoy your umas as well, very dynamic and cool poses.

>>7608051
boxcel

my lines are too squiggly :(

>>7608006
how do you filter your pinterest to not get ai slop?

>>7608053
No woman will ever have sex with me if I don't learn construction
(Im being bullied into doing this)

Loomis is hard bros. Something never looks right about my placements.

>>7608052
Thank you. The more umas the better I'll look forward for more.

>>7608056
No idea honestly, that's just how it naturally developed. It was super bad at the start though. I just saved a lot of things I wanted to draw like japanese school uniforms, exagerated perspective photos, suits, running poses, gravure idols,etc.

>>7607861
Her legs are in two different perspectives, if you were going for one leg up + one leg down you'd have to move her right foot way back (try the pose irl and you'll see what I mean). Fingers would also be splayed to support her weight. Torso wasn't connected to the pelvis properly, try to draw 2 boxes for the torso and pelvis bare minimum for construction and keep the layer around to reference back to to avoid this.

I drew the head + torso in line with the perspective of how I drew the legs, but if you were aiming for the perspective of the other leg then it was mostly fine, I would just make the neck thinner and lower where the breasts connect just a tad.

Is a turnip pen ok to use for lineart? I'm losing my mind over whats actually good or not. I was told picrel was a good brush for lineart but now I'm told it looks shit

getting tired of work and fundies want to pencil sketch spread drow hole getting penetrated by fat deer cock

Another thing, I don't want anything, without talent it's pointless, no matter how much I think about it, no matter how much I try, nothing will happen, everything is always garbage, I can't even finish anything, everything is always wrong, I still break it down into forms, draw immediately like a sketch with light anatomy, everything is the same, nothing will bring, no progress in this fucking drawing

WIP

>>7608101
And WIP. Planning to give them both watercolors

>>7608101
cute

>>7608102
Oops.

>>7608069
you should do your redlines cleaner and more carefully. I can tell you have skill, but your correction is not that helpful

just do art to process your emotions bro you'll feel better bro for real for real then u won't need to cut anymore fucking retard niggers

never mind pls ignore

I hate the OP pic for this thread so much it's unreal

>>7608124
Yakubian physique

>>7608120
time to see a shrink lil nigga

>>7608113
you're right, ill try and do a cleaner one + keep that in mind from now on

>>7608127
what did he post? the archives didn't save the image.

>>7608134
it's not worth repeating they probably deleted it for a reason

>>7608136
nvm i found it on another archive, yeah i thought it was something messed up that jannies deleted but i guess they deleted it themselves.

>>7608140
>>7608136
yeh sorry it was just over sharing and stupid to post hence >>7608121

>>7608003
>>7608030
I wasn't aware that it was supposed to be a doll.

>>7608101
Going to watercolor the backdrop to be a night sky with a shooting star or something up and the surrounding be a pine forest only seen in shadow

>>7608192
what watercolors are you using?
how many draft sketches/thumbnails do you go through beforehand if any?

>>7608194
Artecho. Seems fine. Coverage is decent enough.
I don't often pre sketch or do layouts. A pic like this is one go with a pencil and one go with a pen for lines and I'm off

>>7608059
Before you can draw your anime waifu, you must first draw 10000 fat ugly bastards. It's the only way.

I seriously have no idea what I'm doing with this. Am I doing this correctly? I'm trying go learn fundamentals and Loomis.

>>7608229
>>7608229
>>7608229

>>7608228
you are the most effortful troller / spammer /ic/'s ever had

>>7608230
>not even 500 replies
huh?

>>7608230
nigga we're on page 5

>>7607861
>>7608069
hope this is a bit better

>>7607861
>>7608243
oops

Am I doing the ball and plane method correctly?

>>7608247
you're on the write track but your perspective is all wrong, get on that cube grind

>>7608251
Grinding out cubes is boring as fuck and I can't make myself do it. At the same time, free hand drawing doesn't work for me either.

So I don't know what to do.

>>7608252
Just trace some art until you get a feel for the human skull. If you want you can start off by drawing the circle and the midline and side planes on top of the drawing, then seeing how it ends up looking, compare to your previous attempts see the issues, and repeat a bunch more times

>>7608247
slow down bro

>one of my first digital drawings.

There Is a link for the the other i have Made for criticism.

https://imgur.com/a/Jh2rcmv

>>7608253
Here's a cube I just did. Also, what's the best method for tracing without having the ability to literally put a piece of paper on screen and trace over it? Just copy from the image while looking at it side by side?

>>7608263
That's more so copying the drawing, it is also a nice exercise to make at first. If you have a phone you can put the paper over the phone i guess, otherwise i'm digital so not much advice i can give unless you have a printer

>>7608265
I have a printer but my computer isn't hooked up to it. It's one of my parents. I also have a drawing tablet.

>>7608268
Then you have options to choose on how to trace, i would recommend you do the tracing and drawing planes exercise instead of the boxes at first, only focus on the boxes to do more controlled lines otherwise you'll end up like one more 'fun' schizo

>>7608265
Is it okay to copy or better to trace?

>>7608272
trace then try to copy

>>7608271
I mean, I don't have paper thin enough to actually see the screen through it. All I have is my sketchbook. I don't think a normal piece of printer paper will do it either.

>>7608272
Either one is fine, one trains your mind to get used to the planes of the face, the other one trains your eyes and ability to discern spaces. Just do whichever one you think is fun at the moment as both are good pre-beg exercises. Just draw in other words

>>7608274
I'm fairly sure a standard piece of paper is see through against a screen moderately bright. At least see-through enough where you can copy contours and such. Otherwise i can't solve your physical problems, figure it out as only you know what you have and don't have, get creative iwth it

>>7608263
just put the reference image in the 4th dimension via the w-axis

>>7608263
i know it's boring but get something cube shaped irl and just keep drawing it from different angles until you can draw a good cube, put a lot of focus on accuracy. Mastery of the cube means you understand drawing 3d in a 2d space, everything else will become so much easier once you can do this.

I bought some conte crayons. They seem pretty challenging to use, especially for very fine details. Very unforgiving as well. I think I need to just sharpen/shape them better but not sure.

>>7608276
I'm talking about against another piece of paper. I can't do it upright while it's against my screen. My phone isn't big enough either.

I don't even know what im doing anymore. how the fuck do i improve everything i do is a flip of the coin

Trying to copy a character's head. Dont know what I'm doing.

It always baffles me why they decided to abbreviate "clip studio points" the way they did

i get such clear visions of what i want my art to look like sometimes
they are fleeting but i can really see it

All my life I've wanted to write, make stories, and draw comics, but the motivation to actually go through with it has never really been there for me. I've never completed a multichapter in my entire life and I've never been able to draw a single comic let alone draw much of anything for my whole life. I want to be an artist and do something, but I can't ever seem to make anything.

What should I do? The idea of trying to learn all of it looks too daunting for me.

"fun"

>>7608294
I see them too, but as animations. It feels bad knowing you have a cool idea you can't even execute in at least another 3 years

>>7608244
Hmm, thanks for the redline

>>7606963
studying ai yipee

just a cute little doodle

>>7608278
>>7608277
>>7608265
This is a howie troll. stop replying plz

>>7608344
thumbnail made me notice some really glaring mistakes lol. still doesn't look like ref exactly but kinda ok

>>7608401
can you share what resource you used when trying to learn how to paint? i want to get into painting

>>7607861
I FORGOR A FINGER, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>7608412
well all you see happening here is observation essentially since i don't really know the planes of the face but what i've done to get to this point is to just watch some Marco Bucci's videos and copy stuff the best i can. it's my second color portrait and like 3rd painting portrait ever so can't really be teaching anything xd. except one thing and that is that you just need to start (just draw xd). every good artist has an unbelievable amount of mileage behind them, art is something where there is pretty little you need to know but insane amount of practice to internalize it all. that's to say that there is no resource you need, just observe and come up with formulas that work for you. that's what how i view things right now anyway

>>7607673
i dont understand you, this face obviously looks bad, like you can see it, why did you went ahead with the colors and everything when you could see the face sucked

>>7608558
Because I spent fucking hours flipping the canvas and trying to fix it, practically going cross eyed. I don't have anyone to give me a second opinion irl so I thought it looked OK, not great, but ok

>>7607673
>>7608606
yay or nay?

Anything better than painting while you have some anime girl lick your ears. Fantastic!

>>7608676
The Chad ASMR gooner

>>7608676
ASMR when its in a audio format makes me anxious unironically its so goddamn unpleasant
But irl if a girl does shit like that its so nice

>>7607898
Yes, I tried to focus more in the technical aspect of drawing the folds. Thanks tho !
I did another one

>>7609081
The rendering is great again, I would recommend more contrast though, your shadows are lighter than the ref and your highlights are a lot darker. If you improve that it'll look better I think!

Shoebill I love her.

>>7609501
Mogs me, I kneel

Like 50+ 35s gesture drawings
I think these might actually be helping in some way? Not sure