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>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?
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>>7609569 (OP)

>>7613067

gallon of milk a day

>>7612907
I feel like I remember you posting more a few years back and I could tell the art was good but the way you drew it was so almost unreadable that everything looked like a crazy stained glass window. You had to look at it for a minute before the actual image would rise out of the lines.

>>7613072
based

Lazy… lazy shit
Idk if I should draw them fucking right now or go eat dinner

>>7613355
Damn. This is GOOD (fantasy) content.

You should color like this more often. It's very stylish.

trying something different

>>7613355
Do you use ibis paint? That looks like the dip pen bleed brush, I use it all the time

>>7613355
yeah I remember the one post I did that got a lot of flak was when I was around 17/18. My art was really weird, I mostly just bullshitted anatomy. I'm 21 now so its been around 3 1/2 years of consistent drawing. Hopefully I've improved

>>7613985
sometimes I think about lessening the the amount of lines but I've already developed some sort of style for it

>>7613651
its really hard to motivate myself to render anything when its a personal drawing. I just want to get to the next art, usually even before i'm done the thing i'm working on.

>>7613948
No, just general texture krita brushes. I'm trying to make my rendering look more "painted"

>>7613398
Rough wip for one of Jace and his twin sisters Katie

>>7615370
“How can I indicate that a character has an accent?”
The humble ‘ :

>>7615370
magatama? or just weird flesh womb thing? either way cool

>>7615350
What program and what brush do you use? Beautiful work.

>>7615891
Its krita, just the 1x1 pixel brush and paint bucket. I have been using it quite a bit I don't know I like it.

>>7615379
lol
>>7615425
thanks!, i didn't know about those, very interesting

>>7613715
nice! cool design

>>7615350
do u have a place u post yr art? its really good

>>7617715
https://x.com/SojournFantasy i am on bluesky too, same handle

I don't want to be one of the only few people posting art here, where are the art posters at?

>>7618085
Discords, you also made a line art general further diluting the pool of art posters on ic

>>7617810
ty nona

>>7618085
Working on my /beg/ mango

>>7618085
taking a break for a bit... the world has been cruel to me

>>7609569 (OP)
>(janitor supported)
janny is a tranny who bans anyone he personally just doesnt like, anyone who posts art in a style that he doesnt like, and supports pedos

>>7618696
You think thats lame? Check out the tower girls thread. Infinite free art begging thread for a /tg/ community that has long since moved to a discord. If you say anything your post is gone in 5 minutes.

Ghost Rider

>>7613355
I really like this one. I'm still struggling with trying to draw cute shit.
>>7613715
I also love this, nice ayy

>>>/x/7602276
Trying out the advice one of yall gave me in the previous thread.

>>7620018
>>7602276

>>7618085
Avoiding you.

>>7618824
cool art
>>7620013
really like this

bump

>>7620082
Rider guy here, thanks man. Your works cool too. Dig your style

>>7618620
obsessing over weebshit certainly isnt helping you

>>7620084
hi don

>>7618620
do your best

>>7621072
I think I fucked it up, not enough is being done to draw your eyes to her butt. I barely even see it

>>7621026
certainly not. i must abstain from consuming any eastern media for the next month, and sell off my dear samurai sword, forged from the mightiest of Edo steel...

lidl girl

>>7621100
more lidl girl

>>7621100
>>7621101
when you grab the honey str8 from the source

>>7621078
>>7621072
you need the composition to focus on the ass. right now it's focusing the top half of the whole piece and her head, top to bottom. the ass essentially is the last thing the eye is drawn to

>>7620018
Hey, same anon from before. Looks like you started using some hard shading, but that airbrush still looks god awful. Honestly I should've told you to not use it at all since it's not as straightforward to use as it seems. It looks more like you're using it without knowing exactly why other than the fact that light is shining down on her face/boobs/shoulders/wherever. Whereas light from above doesn't really look like that. It's hard to explain since good lighting requires good forms, which this doesn't have, and which I want to talk about next.

The forms are still very flat! Though I expected as much, you can't get perfect forms overnight. Left side of the crit is what your forms look like right now. Imagine them as pieces of paper placed down on a table. They don't cast any shadows and don't convey any sort of depth. Right is an example of good (ish) forms. They look 3-dimensional and convey proper depth, where they are in relation to the other parts of the body and which direction they face or extend. The fact that they have clear tops and bottoms make them VERY important for placing cast shadows (the shadows cast by an object) and form shadows (the shadows ON an object).

If you haven't already, check out Perspective Made Easy for a good understanding of perspective and drawing the 3rd dimension. I still cannot understate just how important understanding good forms can improve many other aspects of drawing. It's something you gotta practice for a while, but once you get the hang of it everything just clicks. Also check out these videos for lighting tips, they explain lighting way better than I ever could:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3WmrWUEIJo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcCJ2CU-bFw (this one's more for painting, but it's still useful for picking the right values and where shadows appear)

nightmare faggot

>>7621017
thanks man, your linework and inking is great, interesting brush as well

>>7621219
"hot"

>>7621191
I will definitely look into this. I'm already thinking of 3d objects when drawing but I'm obviously doing something wrong if that's not coming across.

really appreciate the help.

pic unrelated, something else I did recently.

>>7620013
>>7620084
>>7621054
>>7621072
>>7621100
>>7621949
I like these. Good job guys!

>>7621949
keep drawing, my tip for figures is to learn anatomy first, gives better understandings to perspective and gesture. It's weird way of learning, and it takes time to do, but once you have some knowledge the other fundamentals become easier

>>7621949
No problem. For the record you seem alright at drawing so I think you just need to do some concentrated studies. >>7622390 is also true (though learning gesture first helped me more, personally). Point is it's up to you. Do a little bit of everything and then focus on the thing you are most comfortable with. Good luck and never stop drawing!!!

>>7621100
>>7621101
I love Lidl-chan

>>7623170
Blog

a quick doodle from memory

i'm having a surprisingly hard time figuring out chibi/SD stuff, at least with how I should go about deforming the head

Trying to mimic Y2K hip hop styles

>>7624889

>>7624889
Another

meido

>>7623999
wow this is beautiful... thank you

>>7624766
i think you got it down honestly. just simplify the nose way more (or flat out erase it) to get the traditional sort of chibi look

Only 4 comments on this.It's so over for me, isn't it?

>>7609569 (OP)
I spent all morning on this ok be nice.

>>7620018
>>7621949
been practicing with shadows over the weekend

>>7625994
>>7622397
>>7622390
I also really like these.

Feel like my quality has been taking a nosedive recently

Something I did last year for referance

Watercolor is fun, I should do it more often

>>7626975
>:P

>>7621318
Blog? I really like your design

>>7632450
https://x.com/Kman4e4

>>7634177
Add a pokemon to it before posting imo

>>7634547
you are a genius

>>7634618
Jokeing aside, that other drawing you did with the oddish made me pine for my childhood. Reminded me of the FEELING of lazy summers when I was playing gen 1. Its rare for me to feel anything when looking at art.

>>7634710
this is the highest praise i think i could ever receive.. i'm glad i could get that sort of feeling across in my art. it's like one of the biggest reasons why i want to keep drawing and making shit. thank you anon :D

>>7626975
need the drow booty

what do yall do when youre having an incredibly off couple of weeks. When nothing you try seems to turn out right.

part of me thinks I should just buckle down and do all the boring practice stuff im always putting off, but im also afraid of forming bad habits.

>>7638177
>do all the boring practice stuff im always putting off
Yes that usually helps for me when things aren't coming out how I want. Then do a finished piece applying the boring practice.
>im also afraid of forming bad habits.
If you don't practice, you won't get the skill gain from said practice. The upside outweighs the potential downsides. Usually bad habits are from lack of practice not from practicing wrong.

>>7638177
I just directly trace a frame of something and change it up a bit to make it my own. Can't be on all the time.

>>7638177
i think when you can't make art you like you should definitely just hunker down and practice. then when you'll get bored of practice you'll think of all the things you ACTUALLY want to draw, and start drawing those. most of the time you'll find that you end up applying some of that practice in these art pieces, consciously or not

>>7621949
I like this, I'm saving it, and there's nothing you can do to stop me. Makes me think of the character art I'd see in a really cool indie table top RPG.

>>7638925
eroticccccccc

>>7638925
Spongebob?

My new interest

>>7638925
Blog?

>>7639600
@DONDRRR

>>7638788
that means alot thank you

>>7638459
>>7638269
>>7638204
appreciate the advice

Hi, posting here for the first time and I'm honestly surprised by how talented everyone is almost scared me from posting today i drew a femboy character, I'd really appreciate some advice

>>7643266
i think the one of the main problems here is that the knees don't bend outwards enough. try doing this pose yourself and bend your knees all the way back, it's an awkward pose to hold. the head is also a little too big

>>7640671
kek

>>7609569 (OP)
Some questions for the thread, how much anatomy do you study? How do you study? For example do you do a copy of a muscle or pose and then try to break it down into simple shapes. An insight into some of these would be nice

>>7643461
ask someone directly, pick some one in this thread whos work you like and ask them

All of these:
>>7609676>>7613355>>7618085>>7623170>>7630485

>>7643970
Meant to show this
>>7623170

I did evil zombie woman.
Haven’t really been drawing. I think I like to well enough, just dont know what to draw lol.

you, yeah you
play awaria

>>7644047
I really like this but you kinda gave up on the hand on the left

>>7643970
make a pinterest board of anatomical drawings instead of real life refs and just copy that, look up specific examples of torso drawings, leg drawings. Make sure to get a lot of them so you can apply them to your drawings with specific poses. Once you get used to it you won't need to check your board as much. Ofc you need to know fundamentals like gesture and perspective but they can be broken down very easily, gesture is just gravity travelling through a body while perspective is how something lines up towards a vanishing point

>>7644155
also another thing is to learn bridgman, don't copy the book because that takes too long and its boring. Bridgman to me can be broken down into the shapes of the body like the ribcage and pelvis, overlapping lines coming from the top which can be used for foreshortening and internal line work to add depth (really important)

Dumb ape characters...
Her name is Devy

>>7644199
old ones... last year...

>>7644201
recent-ish... their stories are fluxuating.

>>7644207
did this right now

>>7643266
Cute. Bloggu?

>>7644009
>>7644047
Really like these too.

>>7644073
lol I drew a complete dogshit hand until I finished everything else, then I drew it reversed and tilted

>>7643266
>I'd really appreciate some advice
just do what you are doing but better, its as shrimple as that

>>7643970
I borrowed this book from the local library like 10 times. https://cursoseorientacoes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/michael-hampton-figure-drawing-design-and-invention-1.pdf

the book is better then the pdf

Sunday is Drawpile ( >>7629566 ) Day paisanos. Considering checking in and leaving a doodle at some point

software: https://drawpile.net/download
in-software session url: drawfie.com
Browser access URL (iPad):
https://drawpile.net/invites/drawfie.com/01jd543a2nnf5xtnqgewhzy51f?web
MEGA archive: https://mega.nz/folder/hbAURDBB#htWRoOsPOG30XnMmKV_zNA

>>7644855
would love to join, but i’ve never gotten drawpile to work through the web browser ver on my ipad.
>i can confirm pen pressure and then open the session, but it always gives me the error via a small popup window that it’s disconnected, or (on the top bar) the server might be inactive
anyone know how to get drawpile to connect with this going on?
>(on an ipad, the docs say you don’t need to download any particular software, the web browser version should work right from the get-go, so i’ve got nothing downloaded, by the way. tried clearing my cache, and have a strong net connection.)
always wanted to join in.

>>7644824
Which anon are you? Do you copy it like Bridgman?

>>7644923
Cant you connect the ipad to your computer and use it as a tablet this way?

>>7644964
haha, my ipad is my computer, basically
>i don’t have anything else available, but really neat thinking though, thanks so much!

>>7643266
i tried. not super crazy of a critique, you mostly did fine. i just changed the hips and the orientation of the feet. the hands looked weird but i didn't really know what you were going for so feel free to correct me on those

>>7644271
Did this yesterday

>>7644992
You still need to download something to be able to use drawpile on ipad. Go check out the FAQ and see what you need to download to make it work in browser mode.

hi im >>7643266 sorry for getting back just now, but I really appreciate all the feedback. Thanks! Even if i feal like a bot writing like this, Sorry for any mistakes, English is not my first language.

>>7643421
You're absolutely right — the knee positioning does look off, and I can see how it makes the pose feel unnatural. I'll definitely try acting it out myself to get a better sense of the weight and balance, even if poses like this can be a bit embarrassing! As for the head, I was aiming for a style with slightly bigger heads, but maybe it just ends up looking weird here.

>>7644291
Thank you! Though I have to ask… what exactly is bloggu?

>>7644824
Absolutely. Just gotta upgrade the shrimp brain i’ll simply shrimprove.

>>7645416
You totally captured what I was going for, but with a much more natural and relaxed pose. I can really see how the changes to the hips and feet make a big difference. And yeah, the hands were actually meant to give exactly the kind of vibe you nailed with yours, so great job on that! No worries at all about critiquing me, even harshly if you want — I really appreciate the feedback.


in any case today I tried drawing something a bit more goonerbait, but it really didn’t turn out well. It just doesn’t give off that sexy vibe I was aiming for, and honestly… I’m really bad with colors. Back to the grind, I guess even if is midnight.

>>7646108
thanks very much for the reply anon
i’ve read through the whole site at this point, and followed all the web-browser related links and read those too, and tried everything.
also did basic stuff like googling error messages in different ways. i tried the few things that felt like they might be relevant, but no luck there. i’d read your attached too, but i’ve no idea where a download would be, because the only mentions i see across the site all tell me i don’t need to download anything, and i shouldn’t download anything non-compatible just to give it a shot. did you have any downloads for ipad+web browser in mind? (would be awesome if yeah)

oh, i got a log of my session, if it means anything to anyone:
and thanks again for thinking about my problem, anon
> [15:33:11 INFO] File logging started.
>[15:33:43 DEBUG] WebSocketServer connecting to QUrl("wss://drawfie.com/drawpile-web/ws?session=01jczz8v2bgnx6rjghyrzj2xz5")
>[15:33:44 WARNING] Login error: "lookupFailed" "Session not found, it may have ended or its invite link has changed"
>[15:33:44 WARNING] Login failed: "Session not found, it may have ended or its invite link has changed"
>[15:33:44 WARNING] virtual void QWasmMediaPlayer::stop() 315

>>7646925
>still me
i’ve tried both links by the way:
1. the link via op’s post in the main drawpile topic
2. and the link here >>7644855
and the resultant page’s just the same

popping a screenshot of my longtime error friends into the attached

>>7644933
im this clown

>>7626975
>>7621072
>>7615350
>>7613355
No I just kept looking at it for reference, I didn't study it page by page or copy over and over. For me the first 1/3rd of the book was worthless and it felt like the artist was just proving he can actually draw before giving advice. But the stuff after was solid and i was always looking back at it when I got stuck on anatomy and proportions. If the book is to entry level for you then I cant actually give any advice after that. The way I learned AFTER the book was a million little things from a million different sources.

>>7646765
>what exactly is bloggu
Japanese for 'Blog'
Whish in this context is short hand for 'Do you post your art anywhere I can follow?'

>>7647332
>For me the first 1/3rd of the book was worthless
Oh, I tried to read the book from the beginning and from that I never really saw why people recommended it so much, just copying Bridgman has always been more enjoyable to me, not that I was any good at it...

>>7647380
hh now I get it! That was actually really easy to understand — I feel kinda dumb for not getting it sooner Thanks for explainin. Yeah, I post my art on

https://x.com/Cicalere_cl/status/1944736295890137354?t=hOAWatA8zEyf3oheQYWBkw&s=08

and

https://www.instagram.com/cicalere_?igsh=aGNvZHl2OXNkamZ4

if you're interested.
Thanks either way — whether you decide to follow or not, I really appreciate you giving me the chance to shamelessly plug myself

Hi, it's me again. Today I made this drawing, even though the pose sucks and the face of the drawing is weird.

>>7646953
uve ben baned m8

>>7646084
decided to give her a body

I need better ways to advertise my work. Not to mention, my workflow is slow and i can only do two page sketches a day, one inked and colored page a day.

>>7643591

>>7649260

I'm not that popular or experienced — honestly, I think you probably draw better than me. But if I had to guess what to do, I'd say something like this:

Post consistently, even if it’s just a 2-3 times a week. Share your process — sketches, inks, final colors — people like seeing the behind-the-scenes.

Focus on a couple platforms, and use hashtags or communities to get more eyes on your work.

Batch your work if possible, like sketching multiple pages on one day and inking them later. It saves time switching between tasks.

Reuse layouts or assets when you can, and use tools or shortcuts to speed things up.

Maybe even set up a simple site or comic profile on places like Tapas or Webtoon, just to have a hub for your stuff.

That’s just my take — and im sayng pretty obvius stuff.

Like i said the art is realy good, but the page layout is confusing at first glance — it's not clear where to start reading. Maybe a small arrow at the top edge could help guide the flow.

I get the joke, but in the deer panel I’d push it further: like the caveman stressing out, imagining his wife wants a T-Rex for dinner. then she suddenly asks for a pizza. And to top it off, he’s on the phone ordering from Cavedash, the caveman version of DoorDash. or something like that.

sorry if i sound pompous

>>7649676
really love this.
very cute

>>7649791
<3 Thank you!!

>>7649260
I agree with other anon i like this. But was it intentional to have the style and colors of little caesar’s pizza?

>>7649359
I like the style and the leyendecker shading but what is being conveyed here? pain?

>>7649851
Well Hype, essentially. It was sort of his thing to let out a primal yell from time to time https://youtu.be/MQvsu_-f2J4?si=axccpB5yQGY8Nqns

>>7649260
Are these characters you invented for this page only or are they reoccurring ones? If they are not reoccurring, then draw them again

took a break from practice and drew an aliun

>>7649359
really nice, just that the pose and silhouette is a bit hard to read
i recognized him as kurt angle

>>7650361
Thank you! And yeah, it was a couple of older sketches I decided to throw some color onto just to have something to post. I’ll try to stay conscious of the silhouette more in da future

I'm posting again — I tried to redo the drawing even if it's a failure, because the pose is still the same as the first femboy I sent. if any of you has any kind of feadback or advice on how to better my art it wold be realy appreciated

>>7650960
I like it. Reminds me of men's t-shirt designs.

>>7651477
I really want to help but I have no idea what you're going for.

>>7652701
I like it a lot but what's going on? Some simple values would go a long way. even if the only values were black, white and grey.
>>7652111
I love the negative space between the butts. really nice dimension here. More!

>>7652978

I drew a femboy knight named Bob who was supposed to kill an ant but couldn’t do it, and he ends up crying in front of his commander. It’s meant to be more funny than serious. Honestly, I drew it around 2 or 3 AM, so I wasn’t really thinking straight.

>>7652978
it wouldn't let me colour since I was on a magma with a lot of people

>>7653106
using too much magma, need to get back to clip

Born to draw cute chubby grils, forced to work 9-5.

Wish i could draw like >>7615350
The femboy he posted today on r34 are immaculate

Sunday is Drawpile day, paisans. Let's go!

>>7629566

>>7652974
Thank ya

>>7656230
Got anymore?

>>7657712
Yes why?

>>7658861
cuz I wanna steal these designs. upload more please

Hmmmmmm
Wanting to make a series of images about these guys in fetish gear.

>>7659799
What do you guys like or dislike about this? I really want to refine a style for a collection of pieces and going for a grunge/punk look.

>>7659772

Finally, validation. Even if is obvius bait. I'll take it.
Glad to know there's at least something worth stealing in my garbage drawings

fixed old art

all the stuff I did from 24 hours of drawing

>>7660493
How did you learn to colour?

>>7660527
colour layer
shadow multiply layer using a slightly darker version of character's skin
ambient occlusion multiply layer with slightly darker version of multiply layer colour
dodge layer for highlights
metals are something I'm still working on

>>7660531
Thank you bro

>>7660444
im not joking. just uploaded them to pixiv

>>7661492
I’m really glad you like my drawings honestly, at first I thought you were joking, since I felt like I was just spamming the thread with crappy sketches. I’m not particularly attached to them, but if you post them please, let me know what name you posted them under so I can check them out.

in any case today i made this

Bro wants to be the next Martin Looter king jr.