New tuber art grifter just dropped. Are you going to waste your time watching another slop channel instead of drawing, anon?

he is genuinely awful, he is art is the most pozzed blizzard esque garbage too

>>7625075 (OP)
Does he draw anime titties?

>>7625075 (OP)
Artist without having his custom drawn thumbnail smells fishy.

>>7625075 (OP)
not sure if it's the same guy, but I got recommended some metrosexual's video titled something along the lines of INSANE ART HACKS THAT FEEL LIKE CHEATING and it's all turbo /beg/ basics

>>7625075 (OP)
if you want to learn concept art, don't learn from anyone but Feng Zhu

>>7625118
>if you want to learn concept art, don't
ftfy

buy an ad

JUST JERK OFF! JUST JERK OFF!

>>7625075 (OP)
>Are you going to waste your time watching another slop channel instead of drawing

What else should I do if I can't draw?

>>7625105
He teaches anime and doesn't like anime and his course roadmaps are dogshit.

>>7625075 (OP)
Just dropped? This fucker has been plaguing my feed for months now. Epitome of slop as far as art education goes.

>>7625075 (OP)
>start watching a seemingly useful video about improving drawing skills
>the person starts going on and on about everything else but drawing
why is it always like this?

>>7625158
> This fucker has been plaguing my feed for months now

Same, but not on youtube, but instagram reels.
>>7625250
These people are absolute wastes of time. You'd get more out of Process videos/speed paints than them.

>>7625250
because they get paid by seconds of watch time from premium users

>>7625250
6 more weeks chud

>>7625250
Because they're not there to teach, they're there to crank up total watchtime for SEO and revenue.

>>7625377
>it's been 3 weeks
3 more weeks and everyone in the comments should have work doing art

>>7625075 (OP)
>New
Artwod is like drawabox but for people who want to draw concept art-y, DnD type shit (form/shape language type). His video titles and stuff on youtube are clickbait pseudogarbage but the program itself is a bit more useful. I pirated a few of their classroom/course stuff that seemed good for complete beginners. Their selling point is their "WoDs", basically their weekly community art challenges and exercises if you're more the type to learn with other artists. Unless you want your work to look exactly like what their instructors look like I wouldn't bother.

>>7625600
*to look exactly like what their instructors' art looks like

>this one simple thing made me love drawing and made super good
>look how good i got in 1 month
avoid any channels like this

>>7625075 (OP)
All that self help/grifter/influencer shit is: here is the only thing that works, dont even draw without it.

They make billions by exploiting that second between intention to draw and actually drawing.

grifter cringe thread?

>>7625075 (OP)
>click on video
>keeps on rambling how all artists make the same mistakes
>doesn't explain the solution
>go to artwod to not make the same mistake
No wonder artists are fucked these days

>>7625706
This dudes art is xerox nigger level bad. But I don't expect anything else from a methie in his 30s.

>>7625662
This is literally 99% of this board, who believe just draw and draw everyday is bad advice. They also believe in talent, grinding fundamentals and (((trad))) techniques like homos.

>>7625075 (OP)
Only channels I actually found useful are Hampton and Marco Bucci (for color)
Rest are a waste of time or straight up garbage

>>7625709
>>7625250
so...theres legit nothing useful in all those 14 minutes?

>>7625075 (OP)
>Are you going to waste your time watching another slop channel instead of drawing, anon?
Dunno, are you going to waste your time posting about another slop channel instead of drawing, OP?

>>7625779
Here's what the video says
>Pick one narrow subject you want to learn/get better at
>Do studies from reference
>Draw from imagination after having practiced from reference
>Grats, now you are better at thing, rinse and repeat

>>7625075 (OP)
post his work please

>>7625250
It's not limited to just art advice, it's all the social media platforms because modern internet is designed from the ground up to waste your time and scam you into spending money for an easy solution for whatever problem you're trying to solve/goal you're trying to reach, from how to get in shape to how to play your vidya the 'right' way.
>THIS is the ONE video you NEED TO WATCH to GET GUD
>proceeds to shit out the same 'one and only must watch video' daily
It's just like infomercials or chink stores like Wish and Temu, everyone knows they sell only shit but people keep buying.

>>7625841
https://www.instagram.com/artwodguy/?hl=en

>>7625788
Only if you recommend me an even better grifter

>>7625911
he is quite good I guess

>>7625123
trvke
>>7625250
This spun off the earlier art youtubers who would quite literally just whine with a hipster-depressed voice about their life and how hard things are but they're holding on and so on and so on over a 20-40-ish minute timelapse of a digital painting. With titles such as "Painting and talking about life." A bunch of sad millenials latched onto this because it was relatable to their pitiful existence.
This evolved into clickbait-titles "for the algorithm" when it was the same content, as well as people trying to grift by yapping for longer needlessly.
Others spun into another direction with more high energy. I believe Ethan Becker was one of the first to succeed with that type of format, because it holds ADHDer's attention for 20 minutes better.

Others saw the demand for "relevant" subject matter - fantasy, scifi, and digital art - and focused entirely on instructional content but with better production values. This contrasts with the older instructional channels like Proko. Marco Bucci, Laovaan and MikeyMegaMega are three of the longer-standing examples of that. Very different approaches to the same thing.

Then THEN you got increasingly flanderized forms of that. THOSE incorporated content farm-y elements. That one bluehaired scammer dude I can't remember the name of went full retard, but this same camp includes trad artists who do more unboxing videos than instructional ones (ChloeRoseArt), random "fun" videos using an entire production team that are SOMETIMES instructional (Jazza, Ten Hundred) or blending with drama channels (LavenderTowne, Mohammed Agbadi).

The ones that are either vlogs or focused on business are IMO the best ones right now. Might just be my personal place in my art journey. Channels like (vlogs) Art for the Insane, David Choe, Chroma Moma, Madden Grimes, or (marketing) Kayla Carlisle. Useful for just "doing the art you want" not making art look a certain way. Ironically that comes full circle. Might just be me though

>>7625123
kek

>>7625075 (OP)
OH SHIT, here we go again

>>7625075 (OP)
Okay, enough of this rat farming views, don't give him any views, fuck this guy

>>7626302
>>7626315
griftmaxxing

even jake is better than this guy despite falling into the painting only portraits trap phase of oil painting

>>7625088
checked it his stuff and he is really good.
I have seen better, but he clearly is a master.

pyw

>>7625250
It's not for us. There are plenty of books and courses that explain the drawing process without embellishment if you actually want to learn art. All the information even exists in YouTube form without a faggy personality and click-bait. There's genuinely no need for new art instruction that isn't about new or updated technology. This is for losers who want a surrogate art friend to try and impress.

>>7626682
I didn't say it was bad I said it was pozzed blizzard garbage which i don't like

>>7625911
very good in quality but very uncreative in concepts
>political posts in the middle of your portfolio account
lol. Lmao, even

Post the video about him failing his own course. That should tell you everything. And his boyfriend skips sections in the roadmap he can't do. Tired of these scamming pieces of shit.

>>7625075 (OP)
>>7626302
>>7626315
I get the same creepy vibes that I get from AdamDuff from this guy. I don't even care if he is good or not, the content is obviously about his ego and selling courses or mentorship. The worst kind of "teacher".

>>7625075 (OP)
his clothing course was good

>>7630805
well, adamduff was his mentor

>>7625075 (OP)
Artwod-sensei pls buy an ad, anyway do you guys rec digitalarttutorials?

>>7625150
>He teaches anime and doesn't like anime
So he's just like Marc Brunet then.

>>7625600
>stuff on youtube are clickbait pseudogarbage but the program itself is a bit more useful. I pirated a few of their classroom/course stuff that seemed good for complete beginners.
Any recs? Total beginner here, I don't even draw.

>>7625911
>https://www.instagram.com/artwodguy/?hl=en
>>7627022
>political posts in the middle of your portfolio account
That's a great way to lose a few gigs, specially now that companies are holding back on pandering to the left because of the orange turd.

>>7631135
picrel

are there any paid art courses worth getting that aren't from new master's?

>>7625075 (OP)
>>7625250
>watch picrel
>draws for 6 hours minimum
>0 words
>no bullshit
>uses the most barebones tools for 80% of the drawing
>has no social media
>doesnt post drawings
>just streams so you can see his entire process from start to mostly finish
>mfw i learn more about digital art while passively watching this guys stream than every youtube art grifter
stop wasting your time

>>7625075 (OP)
>Shilling course in the description
Every. Single. Time.

>>7625075 (OP)
Why is it always these conceot art motherfuckers that get egotistical in their technique only because they work for a Netflix one time suddenly act like they're di Vinci or something. The Dada movement was a mistake and now everyone's fucked!
>>7630805
AdamDuff went off the deep edge with the AI shit by him promoting his fucking course like it was going save art or something, fuck all of these people. Honestly draw what you fucking want, we're so content to get validation from other people that we forget Why we like art. Unless you're getting a job in the industry, ignore these fucks!

>>7631398
Why is she black

>>7631520
it was a hot day

>>7631385
Only if you speak japanese

>>7631398
Any link for the video? I tried googling eo58 but everything is in Korean.

>>7625075 (OP)
these channels are for wanna be artists, the I'll start tomorrow crowd, the I'll be great one day crowd.
just us AI

>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST LEARN ART FROM PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE FIELD UPLOADING HELPFUL VIDEOS YOU HAVE TO READ THIS GOOFY ASS BOOK FROM THE 1920S

>>7631774
NTA but:
https://www.twitch.tv/eo58 (doesn't use it anymore)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLgVYmLAfIV4Ix6y27P1G7rqSxLhNJ7_Zp (twitch vods reup)
https://www.youtube.com/@58mw91/streams (current stream channel)
The streams popping up my sub box are a good motivator to get off my ass. They're hours long and make you feel bad about not spending as much time drawing.

>>7631832
Impressive. Looks like he has been drawing for 20 something years according to the comments.

>>7631841
There's also this guy who streams for long hours. Another pro that's not really on social media.
https://www.youtube.com/@Nvqsvr

>>7631812
You can, but I doubt anyone is going to get better any faster with their methods as opposed to the classics. Of course if their way of presenting the subject is more engaging and therefore more motivating for you then that's great. Though the few examples of the content I've watched spent 90% of the time talking about shit loosely related to the subject at hand, so they always feel more of a time waste to me.
Also, don't know what this guy or his content is like, but
>learning hack
>thAnK mE iN SiX WEeks
Holy shit what an obnoxious faggot lol

>>7631852
people get good way faster now than before retard

>>7625075 (OP)
I watched this shit on 2x speed so you don't have to
Week 1: Practice intuitively drawing simple forms
Week 2: Practice manipulating simple forms
Week 3: Practice constructing objects out of simple forms
Week 4: Practice a specific topic within your drawing interest (his example is practice dwarf noses if you like fantasy)
Week 5: Study an artist you admire and try to emulate it in your own (am I now drawing just stylized dwarf noses for a week? The plan is really falling apart at this point)
Week 6: Draw from imagination for a week

Your classic, "uh oh time to make this week's video" let's shit out a half-assed lesson plan no one will ever follow through on video. You should know this if you've gotten to int level and it's too vague and unfocused for begs. Practicing forms and analyzing styles you like are both fine, but that's not some fresh hack. If some kid saw this video and tried to follow this he'd give up faster than fucking doing drawabox. If you told me he intentionally makes vague videos that approach good advice, but are actually useless as presented to purposefully destroy budding artists I'd believe you.

>>7632080
drawing cubes for 3 weeks sounds like a perfect way to never want to draw again

>>7632080
>just draw shapes
>just draw other people's art
>just draw your own art
tl;dr

>>7632080
i dont really care for how the guy but thats a pretty basic curriculum, most academic schools have you start off with the most painfully boring shit for the first year

>>7632080
i dont really care for the guy but thats a basic curriculum, most academic schools have you do the most boring shit for the first year before you can do any of the fun stuff
what have you even done this entire year? 6 weeks is nothing

>>7632151
you're an artwod shill. his course (they updated it) is objectively bad because they want to make it into a really bad app with worksheets that leave you second guessing your answers.

>>7632170
how the fuck am i a shill you slow brained retard? it's basic shit, i don't like the guy but based on the curriculum, it's the same old repackaged shit
you're the type of retard that is looking for the one perfect course so when you inevitably fail every single one, you think they're scamming you
fucking retard

>>7632196
>you think they're scamming you
They are, you nimrod. I think you missed the part where the creator of the course failed his own course and his boyfriend admitted he skipped parts of the course until they implemented a "feature" to prevent skipping ahead. How does that put trust in the students when the creators behind the material dilly dally around their own content?

>>7632209
And how and why on Gods green planet would you learn to draw anime from someone who admits he hates anime? It's not like it's a guest instructor, either. HE is the one teaching the anime portrait class. Pure snake oil.

>>7632209
i dont know why you keep bringing up his retarded course, i've only commented on the curriculum, you're so fixated on being a victim that your tiny brain collapsed
actual fucking ngmi retard, go work in a warehouse low iq dipshit

>>7632220

I'm not physically fit to work in a warehouse. I'm a scrawny dweeb only fit for office work. That's besides the point, Antonio, I hate you and your course.

>>7632227
>I'm not physically fit to work in a warehouse
do you think you carry 50kg boxes by hands in a warehouses or something? Are you 5

>>7632238

I die in less than 5 minutes in a warehouse building. I've done package delivery before. But that's besides the point, Antonio Stappaerts--I hate you and your course.

>>7626315
W-What are Kim Jung Gi's subtle secrets?

>>7625828
Thats the most basic art advice ever
I mean it works but doesnt really help, everyone should be doing this already

>>7631250
wtf thats huge improvement if you did this

>>7632609
no it isn't and that's obviously his own marketing image, you fucking retard

>>7631847
Man doesnt even let me comment while hes live
He draws really zoomed out thats interesting, I guess its a bunch of thumbnailing before commiting to anything

>>7625250
Because art education for the "absolute beginner" is largely a lie. I'd wager that 75%+ of people who follow these courses aren't really actual beginners, but rather scrubs who have been drawing for years and just convince themselves that they haven't been taking it seriously or somesuch to explain why they still suck despite having studied more and drawn for a longer period of time than some pros. They just bounce around from program to program, maybe completing some, dropping out of others halfway through, but never really improving, instead just getting stuck in perpetual grinds, searching for the one magical program which will finally make them better. The reality is that a lot of good artists naturally make it through the beginner phase on their own through natural talent and just drawing what they want, then use more advanced education to refine those skills, same reason why art schools have portfolio requirements for admittance, even though their supposed aim is to teach you to draw, because they know that you need a base level of natural skill to really get much out of art education. It's like somebody wanting to become a bodybuilder, but needing education for the basic fundamentals of how to move one's arms and legs, how to use one's hands to grasp an object, how to stand without falling over, etc. You're probably so far behind the curve that sure, maybe you can "learn" some of these things, but your natural skill is so very low that at best you can strive to complete a single shaky bodyweight half squat or curl the pink dumbbells without falling over.

>>7631127
except Mark likes anime.

>>7632782
what

>>7632639
Yeah basically. He caught my eye because of the chaotic lines. He does do block-ins with thicker brushes but he just keeps painting and sketching over and over until he's satisfied, without much regard for it being clean until he needs it to be. Kind of liberating to watch.

>>7632986
Exactly what I said. Most art instruction for the absolute beginner is largely worthless, and if you're somebody who has to make use of it, chances are you're never going to "make it." And seriously, if you ask the average person taking an "absolute beginner" type of art course, odds are they aren't a beginner, but in fact a NGMI who has been drawing for years and has little to show for it, who if they complete the course will still suck, draw for a few more months/years, before seeking out the next hot new "absolute beginner" course thinking THIS ONE will finally be THE one that pulls them out of the drawing-for-15++-years-but-still-beg doldrums. Seriously, why do you think there are people on here who seem to have wide knowledge of a bunch of beginner courses? Probably because they've been around here and seeking art education for many years but still suck dogdick.

>>7632782
>>7633725
>goes on a retarded rant
Brainlet, keep it short next time, no one's going to read your pre-beg rant.

>>7633725
I feel like you are lowkey either venting or crabbing a particular anon.

>>7633737
>>7633773
I've been drawing for a long time and just pop in from time to time. I'm fully blackpilled on the realities of art progress and how some people just have the talent and some don't, and that no amount of course grinding will pull the permabeg much above low-intermediate skill.

>>7633780
Nigga you're being cringe as fuck, stop saying all this virginal shit.

>>7633787
Whatever makes you feel better, bro. I'm sure Draw A Box Version 4.0 or ArtWod or some forgotten art book from the 1940s that people will rediscover later this year will finally be the course(s) that help all the permaprebeggers finally improve their skills despite failing at all the other beginner courses they've tried

>>7625075 (OP)

these videos are generally helpful when you follow their advice. drawing the same thing in the same way every time won't result in ability progress.

>>7633796
>went through drawabox and now holds a grudge forever
See, this is what I mean by cringe. You're signaling that you're a massive loser. Just say it sucks and move on like most pre-begs here instead of going on a neckbeard diatribe like you keep doing.

>>7633799
For some reason and I don't know why but people treat learning art so much different from learning anything else even when the instruction is written as clear as day. It's so bizarre.

>>7633799
You can get the advice, "practice basic forms, study a single subject a bunch, analyze professional level work you admire" anywhere. I get that it's click bait, but this isn't an art hack, it's just one sentence of decent advice stretched out into an algorithm friendly ~15 minutes. I think the curriculum he's trying to put them in is completely useless. What would be good is showing some examples of art that lacks understand of form. going over his thought process as he analyzes a complex object and breaks it into forms. Showing how he analyzes a style and then applies it to a subject he's studying. It's real advice given out in a vague enough way to funnel people to his courses. It's a lame AD disguised as well meaning advice Say what you want about Proko, but at least I post enough free actual lessons from my courses that someone could use as a full curriculum.

>>7633796
Now I really know you're crabbing an anon. It's so specific.

Damn that nigga still going on