If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates or howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

>Cool teachers
Glenn Vilppu
Michael Hampton
Steve Huston
Brent Eviston
Marco Bucci
Andrew Loomis
George Bridgman
Hikaru Hayashi

>Cool books
Keys To Drawing
Drawing With the Right Side of the Brain
How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way
The Art and Science of Drawing
Framed Perspective
Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
The Complete Guide to Drawing From Life
Last: >>7625270

c'mon mine wasn't THAT bad enough to make it into the OP

talent

>>7628898 (OP)
Humiliation ritual OP...

>>7628898 (OP)
BASED op

seeing anything I draw in the op is always a humiliation ritual

Found back one of the few anime drawings I made from back when I was 16

>>7628920
no way, i drew that exact same girl in the same exact style when i was 14

>>7628922
Elfen Lied was an unfortunate introduction to anime

>>7628924
it really was

>>7628601
>That's not how the human visual system works at all...
Don't we see in x and y coordinates because light lays onto the retina? 3 dimensionality is an illusion of light. Depth is only perceived because there is a second reference point from the other eye to triangulate the space between points of contact. Doesn't the human visual system literally begin with an infinite series of points from beams of light which are then interpreted by the brain?

guys im gonna have to stop studying morpho, i cant stop jacking off...

>>7628934
youre jacking off to mens feet? prettygay

>>7628920
i too really liked that anime when i was like 13

>>7628912
That ram
Insanely good

>>7628940
Theme went pretty hard https://youtu.be/RFnazAsMOQI?si=K4L1TXIaas-SRQ3I
But also>>7628924

>>7628942
is that yours? it's super beautiful
thank you
>>7628946
I still listen to it unironically and it's influenced a bunch of my oc writing

>>7628947
It is. Thank you

>>7628936
theyre ANDROGYNOUS

>>7628948
your work is beautiful. any social media I can follow? these are inspiring and gorgeous

>>7628953
second this

new thread once again asking for discord friends. Im so lonely bros i just want to talk about drawing.

>>7628952
nah nigga you GAY

>>7628960
drop your @

>>7628967

>>7628968
Various sketches

>>7628966
beggar194

blog?

>>7628970
you mean, various basedness
keep going anon

>>7628931
You're correct but I think he's referring to the edge of the paper being a hard cutoff vs the soft/fuzzy cutoff peripheral vision gives us. Original anon is still wrong about that making the exercise useless.
>Depth is only perceived because there is a second reference point from the other eye
Wonder if being blind in one eye would be a benefit to drawing because you see things flat like they are on paper or if it would be more difficult because you're trying to replicate something you can't perceive.

>>7628974
blog?

>>7628942
>>7628948
OMG you're back better than ever!

oc stuff
>>7628967
lovely
>>7628968
also lovely

how do i make csp paint the tiny pixels

>>7628982
What? I didn't understand you

Some gesture sketches, to warm up ideas, knowledge and muscle memory

>>7628982
With the fill bucket you mean? Adjust the Tolerance settings, make sure Anti-Aliasing is checked, and as a last resort increase Area Scaling.

>>7628898 (OP)
wtf I opened this on my phone and realized she was actually yellow as fuck. Maybe it's time to change my old ass computer monitor.

>>7628991
Testing. Hope it looks better.
I might leave it at that and go learn stuff about color for future drawings.

>>7628997
it looks better and yes you should probably use your phone to check on colors as they usually show the right ones

Commissioner likes it, though it didn't come out as well as I had hoped

>>7629023
awesome

trying box people
>>7629023
that's awesome

Not sure how to articulate this I'm not sure what to do with this one, it's "done" but there's nothing right in it, so I'd like to hear some thoughts. Even though I have spent a lot of time on this, I feel like I am sort of trash ngl.

Not sure what I'm trying to say but
critique would be appreciated.

I look like this btw

>>7629036
great perspective.. awesome deery

>>7629048
forgor file...

>>7629040
Really cool anon, just bump up the brightness where the light is hitting her uniform.

>8 min and 2 beers for this
ngmi
https://files.catbox.moe/vriida.mp4
>>7629028
you pulled through
>>7629040
try add some rim lights, the girl is hardly visible but i think she could benefit from some orange on hte edges idk how to explain
>>7629049
the goat

hm slapped some color on this one maybe draw another shaving pic later

>>7629054
>shaved
Worthless.

>>7629052
nice work oneesan you did great
pls redline me

>>7629040
https://files.catbox.moe/tsn5nu.mp4

>>7629060
i cant today, i have drank too many beers
do appreciate you posting the men tho. his face is really cute and so is yours

>>7629054
try making the tracing less obvious

thread challenge

>>7629072
this how tomboybro looks in my headcanon

>>7629067
Shut the fuck up retard pyw

anyone who mogs me is tracing btw

>>7629072
i am a little bit confused bro, is this a man or a woman? i dont know how to react to this

>>7629081
anyone who mogs me is gay btw

>>7629081
NTA but yeah that's traced.

>>7629080
>>7629081
If you think the anon who drew those eyes is capable of drawing hands like that without tracing you are mentally delayed.

>>7629074
i was a femboy back then desu

>>7629081
gmi

>>7629088
Thepaintpatrick?

>>7629088
Sauce on the slut?

>>7629087
why u retards think everyone get better in everything at the same time? one can be good at faces and suck at anatomy, be good at anatomy and suck at painting and so on

>>7629092
>Thepaintpatrick
Don't know who that is
>>7629094
Jakara Mitchell

>>7629095
>3rd worlder
Opinion disregarded.

reminder that you will gonna make it anon kun <3

>>7629087
this thread has this odd conviction that if you're good at one thing you have to be good at everything, and not that someone could struggle with faces more than anatomy, or vice versa
>>7629048
thank you so much! nice work too

>>7629080
ooo i really hit a nerve. it suprises you that its so obvious?

>>7629028
y'know I wasn't too confident in the earlier versions but it's really coming together now.

>>7629104
dont stop im coming
>>7629105
yes lets come together :3

Exaggerate this bean! Be careful of her cute gaze!

I cant draw because my fingers smell like pussy. I'm gmni!

>>7629119
deersis...

>>7629050
>>7629052
>>7629062
I'm shocked I haven't thought of this.
The advice helped! THANKS ANONS!!!

>>7629128
no problem glad my drunken rambles helped

>>7629127
how did you know...?

>>7629144
oh my god stop pretending to be me I was working out instead of drawing so I can be strong and draw for longer

>>7629152
now you can draw for 31 seconds

>>7629152
who are you?? im the real deersis here and i just gooned..
my fingers smell like pussy all these virgins in beg will never experience this smell.
construction is killing me yada yada and i have so many physical issues yada yada but i can still flick the bean. even if my medicaid is declined my pussy card never declines.
back to drawing weird deer people now while i goon to my overweight OC who is morbidly overweight. dont mind me! haha!

>>7629159
i need a morbidly obese deer man to sit on my face

>>7629152
DEERSIS PLEASE MARRY ME.
I WILL GIVE YOU EUROPEAN HEALTHCARE AND GOOD FUCKS IF YOU LET ME SWALLOW YOUR TOES.

>>7629170
maybe fake deerbro will love you ..... your perfect match .....

Please dont talk like that about my Deerbro.

>>7629168
haha me too! imagine the smell! im so overweight myself he would never be attracted to me because men are worst. but if i just keep drawing it, it WILL happen one day!! now if you excuse me i have to go to my physical therapist to fix my gait and also he will flame me for being so fucking fat i need sticks to hold up my apron belly when i flick the bean. i will draw more fat people after im back from my 8 hour session because thats how WOKE and INCLUSIVE i am haha...

>>7629175
deerbro wishes he was morbidly obese

i might need to make an actual paper boat to figure out how the hair tie should look

>>7628912
nice perspective on the right

>>7629152
>>7629144
fuck off i am the real deersis

>>7629194
will the real deer anon please stand up

>>7629144
there are only 2 posters with pussies here

>>7628948
looks goated

>>7628981
he chillin

>>7629186
she looks cute tho

>>7629203
make that 3 (me)

>>7629206
dropped comment: all that searching and he still hasnt found his dignity

eheheahahaha

i cant be stopped anymore
zooming in is no longer an issue

>>7629111

>>7629206
Wait you're a woman? You owe me sex now too

>>7629230
cool work anon
what was your ref for 3rd face from the left, top row?

>>7629238
stop raping our fujoshis and femboys

>>7629244
They're Yoshinari copies. I think it was on pg 8 of his rough sketch artbook. No idea what ref he would have used

the biggest talent is creativity and appeal

>>7629111

Pulled out the old DBZ collection for some practice on faces and vehicles

i saw that

>>7629111
I tried. Will maybe shade it later if I feel like it.

>>7629260
The biggest talent is being able to draw featureless Loomis-heads floating in a white void, actually

there's nothing more tragic than watching a video by an art teacher, then googling his art and his art being as bad as the shit posted here.

>>7629278
name 5

>>7629238
yes ahahahaha
only in exchange for nude wukong pictures
>>7629278
pyw

>>7629290
i will have to draw you a nude wukong sometime (not in exchange for sex just because i should)

Bun update, just gotta render it now

>>7629111

>>7629297
that would be based and very cool

>>7629249
thanks so much for the reply,
yours’re looking great

decided to draw something cute instead of violent or traumatic

quick warm up, reilly is trick and obscure but I honestly think its going to be worth it, at least feels comfy

>>7629186
the crab is super cute

>>7629111
great pose shame its cropped.

>>7628985
great sense of volume

>>7629221
great shadow shapes

>>7629271
looks nice. before that try and work on the curvature of the chest and make the boob follow it,

>Draw
>Realize it is ugly and permabeg and mediocre
>Feel demoralized
Bros. I cant keep doing this.

i wanna be a good drawer

>>7629324
just keep going desu
even if you can draw a little bit most days, it'll accumulate
I just finished one sketchbook and started another and while I'm not good yet, the opening sketches of this sketchbook are far better than the opening sketches of the last one

>>7629324
pyw

>>7629328
It just gets worse.
>>7629329
No. People will laugh at me for being permabeg.

Should I learn krita on linux or should I just swtich over to my windows dual boot and use csp?

>>7629305
here I made him a bara
>>7629310
cute

>>7629344
i really love his face
now he looks like an actual handsome monkey

i should draw deerman for you

>>7629347
thank you I wanted to draw him buff...
id be very happy if you did that!

How do I get the perspective ruler to affect the green grid and not the blue grid?
Without changing the VP I've set it at

>>7629330
No matter how bad your stuff is, it's probably much less ugly than what Billy posts in /co/ and gets praised for every day. So post it.

>>7629348
wukong is jealous of deermans bountiful chest

i think they look cute together

how tall is deerman?

>>7629330
people don't laugh at permabegschizo, they won't laugh at you

>>7629310
doodled this little guy

>>7629362
Stop responding. If he can't even post anything he doesn't deserve to be here. There are people here actually looking for critique, we don't need to clog up the thread by enabling schizos.

>>7629360
he's 6'7
that's very very cute thank you so much for the illustration! i love your boys expression, so cute
he's envious of the big milkers..

Some people watching and other scribbles
>>7629309
No problem
>>7629314
>reilly
Qrd? What does he teach that's valuable over other sources?

>>7628977
You can already do this by closing one of your eyes. It becomes more apparent when you're trying to touch something with your hand. You don't get a sense for how far or close something was until you end up touching and feeling how much distance you travelled. It would definitely make mark making feel weird at first. You'd probably just get use to it or devise a strategy for when you should make a mark. You can still perceive depth because it's more than just having a second eyeball. The same object will appear smaller the farther it is from where it was or objects will still overlap. It's just the your approximation of how far things are between each other is off. It's not totally gone.

>>7629348
buff wukong is very goated
>>7629368
hihhii thanks :3 and no problem, yeah he is envious, but he had to have 10 million baby monkeys (who is he kidding he always had those sad milkers)


oh thats very tall
wukong is as tall as me, 4''11

>>7629362
I laughed at permabegschizo when he posted his chibi face, but it was only one time

>>7629387
That looks incredible

>>7629387
ILLITHID KINO?
DO YOU HAVE MORE?
i just got this peak on my feed https://x.com/RomeckArt/status/1940198738896810459?t=ufZRoHL1P4VlRd8_f4oX9w&s=19

>>7629392
erm deersis, that's cthulu...

>>7629380
i love the ornaments on his antlers so much

>>7629393
oh i had trouble reading the body/background i see now.. rip.... the head looked a bit more humanized than typical cthulu

>>7629389
>>7629392
yes, unfortunately i'm suck at painting

>>7629362
But doctor, I AM PERMABEGSCHIZO.

>>7629400
mfw

>>7629400
How long have you been drawing?

>>7629406
Why does it matter? A decade, a century, a lifetime wont change anything.

Practice

>>7629404
>>7629362

>>7629409
you just need more consistency

Can anyone explain Vilppu without trolling? I saw somebody's art and it was really good and the dude was like "heh... just used vilppu!"
>inb4 ERMM ARE YOU TOO LAZY TO STURDY???
Nope. I just want the overview of his most important role to people. The thing he taught you that made you go "AHHH i get it!"

>>7629422
The eagle tells the rooster that it just needs to flap its wings harder.
The dolphin tells the turtle that it just needs to try more.
The lion tells the mole it just needs to be better.
I am just permabeg trash by birthright.

>>7629428
If you dont have the innate spatial awareness and 3d thinking to immediately get vilppu then you are FUCKED. Good luck feeling a form you cant imagine.

>>7629432
at least you could be a comedian

>>7629387

>>7629433
Uh, so it's "feeling the form"? But I already do that.

>>7629439
just leave me alone

>>7629428
You have to 'get' him. Try watching this interview to see if you'd like to learn from him. He's more intuitive and feels-based, his style of instruction won't work for a lot of people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbN8wbRz9i8
Then try following along with one of his demos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa_2rL1K1mg

If you do want to study from him, start with his book, The Vilppu Drawing Manual and the accompanying DVDs.

>>7629448
Thanks, anon. I'll give them a go.

>>7629366
very nice! you're so good at varying pressure, I feel like I just always make the same weight and thickness line

>>7629451
honestly a lot of it is the brush but thank you! i need to get better at line density but I appreciate it a lot. i actually like the thin simple line look most that you're doing desu I try to do it trad

>>7628898 (OP)
I practiced today a little but to be honest whenever i look here around im getting frustrated. How the fuck do you draw so cleanly ? Most people here have like clean lines, like do you have hands like surgeon or what the fuck or mine are that bad ? I don't understand...

>>7629453
Poor poor bastard.

>>7629340
dual boot sucks ass, if you feel comfortable on csp keep using it, otherwise make the full transition to linux.

>>7629373
Reilly is a workflow where rhythm and flow are treated as first class citizens. It focuses on finding relationships through rhythm/lines/flow. His head method is more popular than his figure drawing, but for me, the figure approach feels more intuitive, especially the torso, which is treated as a big triangle shape. It allows me to be more expressive with my figures.

There are no books that detail the process. The best source I’ve found is this ImagineFX Anatomy issue:
https://archive.org/details/Imaginefx_Presents_How_To_Draw_And_Paint_Anat.pdf

So if you're the type who prefers a more guided or hand holding approach, I wouldn't recommend it. But if you like figuring things out for yourself, it might be a good fit.

>>7629387
sick!

>>7629453
ehrm layers retard

>>7629456
thanks, bro

>>7629455
>>7629457
Thank you for your valuable input. I learned a lot. I mean really thanks. I think it changed my life in fact so much that i will become a better person. I think im getting nominated Nobel Peace Prize next year thanks to your input.

>>7629049
foid

>>7629453
what software do you use?

>>7629456
Linux is my main rn windows dualboot with windows as my secondary
I hate windows compared to kubuntu and just wanted to know if there are any major pros csp has that makes it worth using over krita.

>>7629463
Krita.

>>7629453
mogs me

>>7629468
I don't think that's it my problem is that i can't draw straight lines normally and i have problem with 3D which causes me a lot of problems. This piece of shit i draw only looks somehow okay because it have 5 layers and 3 brushes.

>>7629456
Thanks, I'll give it a read.

>>7629111

>>7628898 (OP)
character is starting to get life and depth. I'm going get down and dirty this 4th with krita and clip

>>7629415

>>7629465
I mainly use Krita. CSP is better than Krita in three key areas:
- antialiasing algorithms
- dithering algorithms
- transform algorithms
- stabilization
Everything else isn’t really a game changer. Being a good draftsman is far more important.

>>7629466
Ok, it's good to keep in mind that many brushes in CSP have a default stabilization of 6, whereas Krita's default is none. Through trial and error, I've found that settings A and B work almost like CSP's default 6. Setting C works best for long, slightly curved lines, and D is great for lines with sharp curves.
Besides that, if you're like me and draw with overlapping lines, the brush config F makes it easier.

>>7629499
Fuck... that's actually good to know.
I will give CSP try then. Thanks for help.

How's my lighting?

>>7629499
>>7629501
forgot to mention that the dithering is only noticeable when using airbrushes and gradient fills.

>>7629505
nice, apparently a common antipattern is to light up the face even if its opposite to the light source.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nQ_MgbI9qJs

>>7629496
Just keep practicing
I believe in you.

>>7629422
Stupid fucking mewfag nigger cant recognize permabeg when it is right in front of him.
True permabeg retards are hopeless to the fucking core just like Powell, Sharkfag, ITS OVER guy and that talented rat spewing nigger.
Some people just dont have the part of the brain for drawing.

>>7629515
Who's sharkfag? Did he give up?

>>7629515
you can't say permabegschizo is a true permabeg because he's a wagie who barely draws

im the only real permabeg here, none of u compare to me

>>7629432
This is unequivocally the funniest post on the thread
I pity you begs who convince themselves of their inadequacy instead of engaging in self-fulfilling fetishistic representations of your psyche

quick studies

>>7629540
baldsis...

>>7629461
im a man

I'm not super proud of taking a week off of drawing but the urge to draw is still there, It'd be great if I could manage my energy and time better to put more stuff on paper regularly. I think I'm taking to long on a single drawing too.

I'm.... actually enjoying myself? I really want to keep going on this but it's late

>>7629564
>upright in phone
>rotated in post
Am I stupid

>>7629565
No i think phones now a day show it rotated but the actual file isnt. phones are confusing

>>7629565
Phones now store rotation in EXIF data and since 4chan clears that it gets unrotated. Easiest way to avoid it is by cropping the image a tiny bit before posting.

Is there a general guide for using layers or any digital-specific tricks? Feels hard to keep my drawings clean since with all the effects, at least some tiny mistakes accumulate. Not to speak of how hard it is to get clean lines...

Reposting these

>>7629617

>>7629111


>>7629563
cute

>>7629540
nice foxbro

>>7629415
NICE I KNEEL

>>7629617
>>7629618
mogs me

>>7629621
this reminds me of my old style where i drew bunnygirls in that exact color lines as well lol
no where near as good as you tho

>>7629640
thanks, if you still got them somewhere i would like to see

>>7629645
sadly i do not, didnt back them up when i got a new pc. they were shit anyway

>>7629645
>>7629652
wait, i lied. found two of them

building a sentry

>>7629653
kino, they are better than mine anon

>>7629657
no theyre not lol
you drew a very cute face and i like how you drew her body as well. i was struggling as hell with those back in the day

How tf do even /beg/ threads completely mog me?

>>7629664
pyw

>>7629664
easy. you're a nodraw.

>>7629665
A colleague helped me with the hair. I am improving and drawing daily but i don't think it's very good.

>>7629670
just need to study more. itll be fine

>>7629664
this is /beg/ AND /int/

>>7629054
>>7629067
>>7629080
Nta but this is 100% traced, i know it might be hard to noticed by someone realtivly new to drawing but for more int artists its obvious.

>>7629692
can you articulate the specific details that point to it being traced? I've seen people point to a huge disparity in, sense of anatomy or perspective, and their (lack of) ability in picking out correct values in a coloured piece, or composing an awkward scene, but couldn't that be explained by someone neglecting some areas of study and emphasising others?

How do I learn to duplicate a brushstroke I just made? I can't seem to find any consistency.

As an absolute /beg/, how did you guys begin? I've been seeing churning out 1-5 min gestures being recommended

>>7629699
This pic has accurate foreshortening and proportions that are hard to master. Someone on this level will have way better developed lines. Before you give me examples od good artists with wobbly or simple lines there is still a difference. You can't fake muscle memory.

>>7629701
Forgot my image

>>7629701
before you depict anything on a page with lines you have to be learn to make accurate lines in the first place
linework exercises until you can actually make the lines you intend on making, then observational skills (exercises testing your accuracy in relating and copying dots/lines on a page, contour studies of real-world forms) then basic 2D gesture (you can try this whenever you get bored of boring mechanical exercises), from there you can practice manipulating basic 3D shapes in perspective, then creating more complex, organic forms out of those shapes (through tapering, moulding, interlocking shapes together), then learn about proportion of the human body and practice basic 3D poses made out of the basic 3D shapes
after that point you can improve your figure studies by learn about applying values to organic forms, gradually developing your understanding of anatomy so you can adapt your models and references to emphasise muscle groups and contours/draw poses from different perspectives, but none of this is worth learning about until you can draw lines on a page accurately
don't misunderstand me when I put linework exercises and observation at the very start, you shouldn't breeze through what seem like basic linework and observational skills for a couple days before getting into the meat and potatoes of drawing figures and other complex forms, practice these while you develop your understanding of every other skill I mentioned or you're going to endlessly frustrate yourself by making shit lines while making zero progress
>>7629707
studies like this will be much more helpful when you don't use short, searching lines hoping that one of them will depict something that looks good; when you can execute accurate lines with a single, flowing stroke it gives you a much easier time to assess where you can improve in terms of proportion, gesture and perspective

>>7629714
lots of artists who are good don't prioritize lines this obsessively and have extremely messy sketch work filled with searching lines and then refine it at the next stage. line schizoing is retarded, stop giving shitty advice as if it's the end all be all. lots of jp artists have insanely messy sketch work and refine after
this shit is a meme, and your advice is shit

>>7629719
very soul. might i propose some improvements?

>>7629707
for a beg you are doing waaay better than me back then and also better than most begs ive seen. keep it up

>>7629723
>then refine it at the next stage
retard

>>7629707
mogs me when i first started
keep going anon

>>7629725
Thanks, I might go back and change it as that does look like a good idea

>>7629729
no problem. looking forward to seeing more of your work.
got a blog?

>>7629714
I've been doing stuff like that with longer time limits 10/15/20 mins, but it feels like I can't really apply it in short/time sensitive manner, which feels like it's fucking me up, that's why i've been wondering, but thanks for the answer, I'll note it down.

>>7629730
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/132232024
I dont usually draw things like this though, it was a request for a friend as he wanted an MTG card art

>>7629733
ah i recognize some of your artwork (^-^)
anyway, followed

90% of line quality fixation isn't actually adhered to by pros and is an /ic/ schizoism

Wednesday morning sketch uwu

>>7629736
and another, bc there was time before group started
still waiting

>>7629734
Same, I regognise your stuff aswell, followed :)

>>7629499
Thank you bro you actually saved my fucking life it reduced my stupid redtarded workflow down from 15 minutes of dying to 3 min because actually i can draw without redrawing constantly.

>>7629705
>>7629699
>>7629692
>>7629067
you guys realize that the person who drew that is this dude, right https://www.deviantart.com/wolfenfirst/gallery

>>7629773
>the filename
holy shit you are right
germanbro confirmed tracer?

>>7629773
Look at the time in the filename and the post. I am same timezone as germany. Someone framing germanbro?

wasnt gonna post it cuz its 20 minutes but i failed horribly. i must hold myself accountable.

https://files.catbox.moe/unaxpk.mp4

>>7629707
Here's day two now color coded for 1 min and 2 min (green and blue respectively). I'll do the rest later.

>>7629621
thanks!

>>7629782
he uploaded it two days ago on DeviantArt so I don't see why he'd post it now

>>7629794
cant see the post cuz i dont have an account, can you post a screenshot?

I'm in the lab cooking up stubby/cute but still sexy characters

>>7629796
>references anime for proportions and design elements
>it morphs into some sort of Scott Pilgrim Steven Universe amerimanga sloppa
Absolutely cursed. Maybe Asian genetics really are the ultimate talent...

>>7629796
>>7629797
Scott pilgrim really ruined not just whole generation of women, but seemingly men too

>>7629799
She saw Ramona Flowers
And felt so empowered
By a movie made
In Hollywood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSKizLRFbTo

>>7629797
>>7629799
It'll look good once I figure it out. Something like Kelvin Hiu's work (picrel).
>BUT ANON THAT ALSO LOOKS LIKE SHIT
Not for coomslop it doesn't

>>7629521
6 fucking years anon. There are other wageslave anons here who make it because they have the talent to make an hour a day work.
Just look at Pewdiepie who is a successful artist just drawing a doodle a day. Fucker is insanely talented.
>>7629517
Another permabegleyend in the permabeg hall of fame like Pawell and Chris.

15min mito
https://files.catbox.moe/2y09o3.mp4

>>7629786
>day 2

Hes gonna brutal mog us all in no time isnt he

>>7629705
Nigga have you hear of a reference

>>7629786
i have never understood permabeg schizo more in my life until this moment. day 2 and can already do construction like this. i should rope

>>7629819

>>7629819
you are so peak sir

>>7629816
>bad man
seems more like a based man to me

>>7629701
>>7629707
>>7629786
>Those almost perfect head planes
>Day 1 and 2
I feel like I should kill myself. Why didnt God give me any talent.
This is just infuriating and depressing. What the fuck is wrong with me.
I just want to fucming draw but I am worse than some fuck who picked up a pen anday ago.

>>7629821
thanks, anon

>>7629823
put in the effort or shut the fuck up already

>>7629823
Pyw nodraw

>>7629823
i feel you so bad rn man

>>7629825
Anon my effort for years has bore less than some guy who picked up the pen literally yesterday.
>>7629826
If only I could be a nodraw instead of a drawsfornothingfag.
If someone who doesnt draw is a nodraw then what the fuck do you call someone who draws nothing but horrid dogshit worse than a day 1 beginner? A permabeg.

>>7629823
Do you even have fun doing it? I mean, there’s no point in doing something if it’s not fun, you’re not good at it, and there’s no money involved. I tried joining a soccer school once, but I sucked compared to the others, so I quit and just played for fun at a field near my house. If you’re bad at something, either you quit or just enjoy it, there's no point in constantly comparing yourself to people who are naturally good. You guys just complain so much i doubt you enjoy drawing, so why keep going?

>>7629598
Mmm, for clean lines or less wobbly ones use smoothing, and for layer management you should think of "is it going to be hard to correct/erase?" if that's a yes then you should use a new layer

>>7629304
Sum color

>>7629456
actual dunning kruger, you dont understand how it works at all

>>7629836
If it's your own depiction it's okay i actually like it but if it should be accurate then right hand is too small, head is too big, thighs are thicc, cunt should be not visible and right tiddy should be smaller and ass needs more curve.

>>7629839
Damn son, why did you say all that after I rendered it?
Though yeah, accuracy was not the main focus. It was a great pose

>>7629840
Then it's okay if it should not be accurate then it's perfectly reasonable to let it be the only thing you need to fix is right hand on her stomach everything else is fine and good job by the way.

>>7629823
for all we know he could have been drawin prior too but these are his first two days of "taking it serious"

>>7629836
You're fucking amazing anon. I know you could make her milk sacks better though, just a little bit more full and saggy. SAVED.

>>7629843
yeah usually when people say "day 2" is likely 2 days of focusing on something specific

>>7629823
Talent is overrated hard work and learning is what counts. If you don't have your hands fucked up you just need to keep working.

>>7629844
i can tell peril was who posted this challenge (lovingly)

>>7629844
hi peril what do you think of my bunny girl attempt

Fun exercise. The lower I go, the harder it gets, even worse when the beginning was bad.

>>7629745
glad you found it useful

>>7629837
>dunning kruger
Nah, I'm more of a Cunningham's Law kind of guy. Can you help me properly understand Reilly?

>>7629859
reily's method is the reverse of pic related
Instead of drawing lines exactly as they appear on reference, you draw lines as they relate to each-other in 3d space, find any 2 lines on the reference, then place one line on the canvas arbitrary, then find a way to place the second line, without changing the first line, so that the relationship between the two lines stay the same as the reference

Please critique my acrylic painting.

>>7629871
I rate it
anus/10

>>7629871
Is this a Nickado Avocado meme?

death to talented rats

>>7629874
Death to nodraws

death to no talent draws

Death to nikocado

>>7629873
It's not meant to be anything in particular. It's my 3rd painting and the first time I painted without a subject in mind. At one point it was a flower. Then a black hole. Now it's an anus? I guess I got ass on my mind lately. Perhaps that's what's in my subconscious.

Out of embarrassment I now will claim it's a Nicado meme..

I've been drawing all day but I'm trying not to post shitty studies or scribbles anymore fail

>did a 20 minute speed doodle to try copy a piece
>didnt come out as good and even has small personal adjustments made, but Google reverse search still instantly shows the original image its copied from
Kek

actually I can post this one since it's almost a drawing

>>7629884
This is the funniest thing ive read in a while. Keep painting and blessing us with coincidental anuses please

>>7629885
>>7629890
Looks fine, also whats wrong with posting shitty studies and doodled/scribbles anyway? This is probably the one perfect place for it

>>7629885
pyw or gay

>>7629896
my work >>7629890

>>7629894
i keep getting yelled at for it

>>7629897
post them Deerie I want to see them xoxo

>>7629904
here's some

>>7629907
oh youre deerfag? sorry you actually are gay i shouldnt joke about sexual orientation. hope you find a gf

>>7629907
good work, I should do some too

>>7629909
haha I have one already, she's the co owner of the deer and drow! she drew those mspaint deer men and posted them here lol

he sounds like a squeaky toy when he giggles

>>7629894
i dont know, i always saw it as an opportunity to learn from it

>>7629907
omg thats so small :D

>>7629819
i like how ominous that hooden guy is

>>7629914
OH MY GOD WHATT that's so cute wtf based... it's monkey x deer yaoi... he thinks the monkey looks very soppy and ticklable

some pose i was trying... ignore colors they look retarded.

he reminded me of that monk

>>7629916
i ship it sjdfsfh (and thanksies XD)
who do you think tops tho
monkey has to climb, but if deerman tops we dont even see monkey
(ahhh new drawing fodder)

>>7629892
I wonder what would happen if I purposefully paint a butthole, haha. I'm working on a human subject now. I can't stop giggling at how I poured some heavy emotions into that painting only to end up with an asshole lmao.

Please note the near absurdist placement of that baby wipe box. I didn't notice the irony until after I uploaded to my PC.

>>7629817
it's traced bro, fr fr. You can't get this shit so right and make close lines thin and far thick when you apply weight. Look at far right line from her cheek. Cmon bro.

>>7629925
i don't think it's as right as you're saying, there's some foreshortening errors

>>7629870
I don't know. What you said doesn't match the secondary and tertiary sources I have. It feels like you're talking about a different topic.

>>7629890
I like the head and hair, but the pose is hard to read I'm not sure what she is doing.

>>7629886
cool creature

>>7629917
looks static, pushing the kicking leg forward would make the kick look stronger, and squash more the pink gal

>>7629925
I think you should go to /int/ >>7619879

>>7629913
The what now

>>7629928
ty for the crit, I suspected it was too many lines to read so good to know I was right
>>7629922
it depends on the visibility of the moon i imagine very random

>>7629924
>I can't stop giggling at how I poured some heavy emotions into that painting only to end up with an asshole lmao
It keeps becoming funnier
I like it

>>7629930
monkey is just happy he isnt used as a sentient cumsock XD

>>7629924
the baby wipes make this whole picture a work of art

>>7629904
cute

silly doodle of conquest
>>7629937
aww wtf so cute
also deer man bottoming is kino wtf very very based size gap

>>7629849
>>7629851
Deerbro? Please forgive me I can't tell wich one is your bunny girl.
I didn't post any challenge, I'm in lurking mode, right now I'm reading some pending books. If I would post any challenge, I would choose something like these bellow to pay homage to SambaBro, he says it's hot as hell down there, but it's full of hot bitches. He should go to the beach and do some life drawing, if you know what I mean...
A quick scribble giggly gal on picrel for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXmDpJPVwNg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZpHz7zzdk0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN0bO_Rs3jc

>>7629942
ahh I wasnt the bunny person! thanks for the doodle post though haha ty peril
i want to gesture draw at the beach but I'd feel creepy......

im getting worse

>>7629940
i love size gaps
and thanskies,
bottom deerman looks really cute

>>7629942
im not Deerbro but he calls you that so I thought thats what you went by
Reposting cuz i fixed some stuff

also cute girl i love the hat

>>7629950
her hand is very small

Monke girl wit da big ears...

>>7629966
The colors looked a lot more vibrant on my ipad...

>>7629846
>>7629843
It's technically 9 days, but the first week was a bootcamp made by chatgpt which i followed. These were my first lines drawn.

I feel like I'm not going to be able to create anything I like until I figure out construction properly and that can take months so that really sucks

>>7629982
Just draw. It's gonna be shit but at least you get to do something

>>7629980
>but the first week was a bootcamp made by chatgpt which i followed
AIpilledbros always improving faster

Beg-let here. These are 1 minute gestures. Are they too scratchy and scribbly?

Trying new inking approach, because the one I used before sucks balls. I like slightly messy lines and restatements to add line weight. Messy lines to me are instant soul multiplicator. Beauty in imperfection. But it's time consuming.

>>7630002
Fuck forgot pic

>>7629950
Oh oh oh! Sorry! Yeah, I thought it had to be this one >>7629621 ..I'm just used to be ignored by everyone saving deerbro lmao!
Anon your stuff is untouchable, what can I say? Faces are beyond beautiful, hairstyles and lines. You know, when people struggle with hair? You're way past that. I don't know what to say. You already have appeal in the bag. Now maybe you're wary of taking chances in fear that some tweak will fucked up the appeal, but fear not, I believe you will have the artistic skill to turn any posing idea, or weird angle to look good.
Yeah you can call me peril or perilfag, of course. Though I think I may be out of here for a while. Thank you!

>>7629944
lol no prob, thank you! People love artists in the wild. To get used to the feeling you can draw the coastal landscape, or imaginary boats, or sea monsters, lol. There you have another quick hottie

>>7629366
This is a lovely piece
>>7629890
This is excellent how the figure is perfectly readable with such subtle minimal strokes, the foreshortening and everything. Top of the line.
>>7629617
These are always so nice to look at
>>7629564
I absolutely love this, it is already an artistic piece, even at that stage. It is the quality of those delicate pencil lines
>>7629477
This, this is how those breasts looks the best. Beautiful, SAVED.
>>7629415
Best in thread, saved!

ugleh

>>7630015
youre doing great man

>>7629982
forget construction
go doodle first
and then balance the two once you feel like youre ready
>>7629950
the slight weigh down of the boobie is chef kiss
>>7630007
she looks cute

>>7629843
>>7629846
What now niggers? >>7629980
>>7629848
Yeah I am pretty sure that you just need more hardwork to beat someone who already has better fundies in a week that most here.
Look at deersis drawing day in and out and not being able to grasp construction and 3d for shit while that guy got it in less than a week starting from 0.
Better than all the permabegs that have posted here.
Now what? Will you just call talent by another name to keep denying that some just have it way way easier than others?
Fucking disingenous nigger just making shit up. Surely another permabeg who thinks that if he works hard for another couple years he can catch up to a talentfag's first week.
Pitiable

>>7630023
>forget construction
Crabmaxxxing

30 min
>for this
might as well rope
https://files.catbox.moe/wnlrrl.mp4
>>7629966
very cute, i like her. color seem fine desu
>>7630003
very cute but applying the screentone is a bit jarring, i would love to give you advice on screentones but honestly i am not sure how to condense it into a small post
>>7630004
its a little scribbly but that'll improve hte more you draw. so keep going anon.
>>7630007
love u peril

>>7630040
if you draw for a very long time like deerfag and don't use construction, you develop habits that are very hard to break. it's a lot easier to learn from the ground up than it is to break bad habits.

>>7630007
First off thank you so much for the kind words perils this made me happier than you think

also

>Filename
were you Picrel? great work as always Noonie

>>7630023
thank you!

>>7630046
its looking good oneesan nice job, nice pose and perspective

>>7630003
very cute i like the style

>>7630040
yeah, maybe talent is real. It is what it is

>>7630040
ehh im getting better i only rlly started studying construction like. last week
my sense of 3d isn't really that bad, thus why i can render a bit, but my ability to simplify is horrendous and is what kneecaps me lol. it's less 3d and more ability to break things down into simple shapes and structures. i see in contours, not in shapes and forms
and im a slow learner so ill prob suck at it for the next two months or so, but it's improved a lot since I started desu
that anon isn't actually doing very complex construction or like forms in perspective, they r doing very good but that's kind of a different thing
>>7630046
good work, dont see why this is bad for 30 mins
>>7630007
gracias peril!! nice doodle, and thanks for complimenting my work again. always nice to see you around

>>7630046
>very cute but applying the screentone is a bit jarring
Thanks! Yeah, I just did it on a whim, because to me it still looked better than solid color. But I admit even though I watched some videos and I know about DPI and I played around with screen tones before, I am not competent with them. Maybe you have some resources I can read or watch to improve with screentones in CSP?

>>7630062
>its looking good oneesan
thank you qt3.14
>>7630067
>dont see why this is bad for 30 mins
have you not seen the face? i will fix it later but i have incredible doubts that i will make it look acceptable
>>7630069
i can help you on disc it might be easier, please give me an add: aku.8694

>>7630078
the goat

at the end of the day, I represent a cautionary tale about contour drawing and drawing on the right side of the brain being implemented in the long-term
>>7630077
i don't think the face is bad at all
>>7630078
cute

>>7630096
>i don't think the face is bad at all
well thanks deersis, love you

Slowly trying to get used to soft blendy brushes. Feels bad to use but they're necessary.
>>7630004
How long have you been doing 1-minute gestures? They are very scribbly but if this is one of your first attempts at them it's not something to be worried about.
>>7630003
I agree messy lines are nice. The feathery lines you used for the collar bones look great. Try to be looser and use more flowing curves when doing the hair. The hair of the girl on the right looks like a solid object.

>>7630040
Well, here's the test+bootcamp if you wanna give it a try.

Test was:
-10 mins, slow deliberate lines (horizontal, vertical, 45° both directions)
-10 mins, ellipses, circles, figure eights
-10 mins, ghost lines, practice confident single stroke turns
- 30 mins, pick 2 simple objects (cup, chair, tool), draw with ref
-15 min break
-30 mins, redraw both objects from memory, no ref
1 hour, lines only, no shading, 5 household objects with refs, 3 should be drawn through as if transparent.

The daily was:
-10 mins, straight lines (ghost+ fast execute)
-10 mins, ellipses in boxes, between lines, in perspective
-10 mins, C curves, S curves, spirals, zigzags (aim to replicate as close as possible)
- No time limit, draw 10 ellipses, then redraw from memory
- No time limit, draw 5 boxes total from imagination (can mark vanishing points if needed) can mix and match, but try drawing atleast one with 1vp, 2vp and 3vp
- about 1 hour, choose 2 objects, redraw them with ref (15-20 mins each), put ref away/cover your drawing and redraw each from memory (15 mins each), light construction lines, push to capture proportion and specific curve identity
-30-40 mins, choose 1 simple form (mug, bottle, box, hammer), draw it at 4 different rotating angles (draw cube/rectangle to help facings), sketch lightly then clarify contour, at least 1 should be without refs or guides, occasionally rotate vertically
-60 mins, pick 3-5 household objects (no photoref), use draw through, rebuild form with basic primitives, show centerlines, crosscontours, elipses and axes, at least 1 object assymetrical
- 20-30 mins (5 mins per object), from memory (no references) redraw 4-6 objects, can be an object you drew before, No guidelines, just quick line sketch, if possible from multiple angles
-10 mins, sketchbook play.
- additionally, at the end of the week, redraw the object you felt was the best from memory and a different angle, then compare the two. Annoint where you feel both failed.

it's awkward because I've definitely gotten better this week but I have no motivation to sketch personally because I know I'm just not at the level with construction to where it'll look okay if I use it, so even though I've technically improved quite a bit I can't use it for personal work at all. less than zero motivation

>>7630040
answer this you fucking faggot >>7629832

>>7630160
deersis...

>>7630040
You are saying it like talent is some magical stuff that simply makes you better at the thing you have talent for. Quit yapping and start working you are excusing your own laziness with stupid shit like but muh talent bruh... who cares. If you don't want to draw then quit but stop bursting out your crap out. You are insulting people here who actually worked their asses to get somewhere instead of yapping about talent like you do. Go away or go back to work.

>>7630163
i think it's just exhausting. my boxes look better, my figures look better, but I'm mentally tired, and they're not good enough for me to feel like I can go back to drawing for myself by any means and won't be for a while, so it's just an autistic cycle

>>7630160
>>7630150

>>7630168
>muh mental health
Draw for fun or dont draw. Dont be an autism. Youre a neet and can draw every day all day. Check your privilege

>>7630150
if this is you >>7629023 delete post, sell program, mog proko.

>>7630162
Because I want to draw but I havent learnt a damn thing and am still really bad and I have nothing good to show for after all this time.
Is it wrong to want to do something you werent born for?
>>7630166
Isnt it? How many retarded autists like me plagued the internet. There was something called the deviantart style before it became a AI shithole.
I am just one of the stupid imbecile neverdogood autists meant to plague the internet drawing horrible mediocre crap because I cant learn or do any better.
If someone gets better in a single week, if someone gets comm worthy in a few months while I am still worthless after years then what can I even hope for?
You think some magical tip or forbidden knowledge will teach me something I havent learnt in years?
How do you even fuck up this bad?
How many others have said that if you dont get good in less than a year that you are cursed to remain like that?

I am just desperate because I want to do better and be better but seeing others grasp things so easily within such insanely short timeframes just proves that I cant do it.
I am tired but I dont want to give up. I want to draw pretty things.

>>7629839
Thanks
>>7629844
Yeah, I wanted to give them more care but at the same time didn't want to go over an hour on this.

>>7630171
i do work in a sense atm for a few hours a day but haven't been able to get a formal job but yeah, i do have a lot of time to grind

>>7630176
>Is it wrong to want to do something you werent born for?
What were you born for anon? writing huge walls of text won't bring you any closer to becoming a skilled artist.
Drop this board, take a pen and draw.

booti

>>7630180
Taking a shit at work.
>Just draw bruh
Hasnt worked for years. Wont work for years.
Someone who has been permabeg for half a decade wont suddenly show the improvement that someone with talent can have in a single week.
A chicken wont fly no matter how much an eagle tells it to.

is Twitter really the only viable place to use to post your drawings and doodles? Knowing how much of a shithole that site is I can't imagine my beg ass surviving there but if it's the only thing I probably have no choice

I've never really had a specific artist I wanted to master study but since people always compare my art to amano I may as well study him I guess, his stuff is cool

>>7630182
>Someone who has been permabeg for half a decade wont suddenly show the improvement that someone with talent can have in a single week.
You have lots of chains binding you.
Self perception can do much more damage than actual restrictions.
Just make a clean slate, imagine the last half a decade never happened.
It is your first day holding a pencil, what do you do with all the wisdom you have gained?

>>7630040
Talent in art is very is real, but it's more complex than people think. Some people perceive faces better so they can just draw convincing faces without grinding Loomis heads. Some people see colors better, some people feel the form better, some have perspective intuition build it, others just understand proportions and visualise anatomy. Certain people just grasp certain topics better. Just because someone is more talented than you in some area doesn't mean he is more talented in all areas. And even if some random guy is more talented in everything, so what? I am hyper autistic and can barely perceive human body and it took me weeks of grindind, reading books, watching courses to move past horrendous prebeg shit on my pic. It just makes me want to say "fuck you, nature" even more.
>>7630062
>very cute i like the style
Thanks, it means a lot, my past attempts at drawing cute stuff failed.
>>7630126
>Try to be looser and use more flowing curves when doing the hair. The hair of the girl on the right looks like a solid object.
Yeah, It was an attempt at some kind of angular style, but I didn't go far enough with stylization and it ended up on awkward middle ground. It's a learning experience.
>>7630077
>i can help you on disc
Shucks, I don't have discord or any other social media really. I promise I'll study screentones for my next manga drawing.

>>7630176
>Is it wrong to want to do something you werent born for?
no it's just retarded if you're not even having fun

I fucked up a lot but I'm seeing improvements even compared to a week ago when I started focusing on my observational skills. Using references instead of winging it helps too

A brutal blackpill for deersis today... It might be well and truly over...

Truly brutal

Its not over Deerie! (You) got this and I believe in (You)!

Just 3 more commissions until she can afford a strong enough rope...

me when a girl share the same hobby as me

>>7630200
>>7630201
>>7630206
wth I'm fine I'm just rendering

>>7630206
Topkek
Hes implying she needs top quality rope because she is fat

>>7630211
why do people always think im fat!!!

>>7630176
Why don't you draw something you enjoy ?
It was said to you once what is the point if you are not having fun ? Yes, fun and don't worry im fully aware that you can't have time constantly but if you enjoy creating something then there is nothing to solve there are no problems just keep working, keep failing keep feeling uncomfortable, keep grinding because at the end what you want is to create something you love right ? If that's not that then it doesn't have any meaning. I wouldn't be doing shit just because it makes money or because it's popular i only do it because it's something i enjoy. Selfish, retarded call it whatever you want but that's the only way to do something hard as this and if you feel bad and discouraged then it's something you have get used to there are people who are better then you but also worse then you but none of that matter all you have to do is remember two things... "Why are you doing this ? Because you love it and want to create something." and "Am i going to quit because im suffering now or im going to quit and suffer later because i will have regrets of not keep going on."

>>7630215
anons don't believe there are cuties on the internet ;3

>>7630215
Because you are

>>7630222
nope
>>7630221
im not cute im a grown man

>>7630226
grown men can be cute

>>7630226
why u lie, there's nothing wrong on being cute

>>7630230
reaction image drawn from imagination

Is it bad to mix drawing what I want (crappy deltarune fanart) and study/practice (observation/drawing what I see from reference)

I'm going nuts over this FUCKING GODDESS moving that insane body all around. Every fucking frame is an anatomical art-piece for reference study:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53SH5-JWY3o
>>7630062
Thank you, thank you! Also I'm not that anon, lol. Just some crazy coincidence
>>7630067
Thank you anon!
>>7630046
Thank you so much, love you too anon
>>7630023
Thank you! Cuteness points are the hardest ones to get most of the time. I'll take note.
>>7630248
Nice!, I hope you keep doing doing this "cool angle" poses. If you can do Egil from any angle, him being a big fat dude (out of the norm body type), then you can do any body type in any angle.

>>7630278
tysm peril, I hope to be able to draw egil at more angles soon

>>7630278
Stop gooning

>>7630295
You're asking fish to stop swimming.

>>7630295
if you don't goon youre never gonna make it

>>7630295
I wish I could goon by drawing, one day maybe, today only a dream

>have the skill but no ideas

>>7630316
tfw neither skill nor ideas

>>7630322
this is skilled

is there an easier way to draw buildings or do i really need to draw one by one? :)

>>7630332
I used a reference for the pose and guts, and another for the wing pattern
I'm talentless when I don't have something to base what I'm doing on

scribbles

Not as good as I wanted it to be, but I am tired. Calling it done. For context, it's a bandits vs mercenaries scene inside a spaceship wreck. Perspective looks tilted because the wreck itself is tilted.

>>7629510
Thanks for the tip, to draw more attention to the face I gave the eyes a slight glowing effect

hello lads, i made something

>>7630270
no

>>7629535
meds

>>7629535
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about

does anything about this look really fucked up from a glance? also, any idea on what to do with the left hand (one nearest the head)? i wanted to draw it grabbing onto a headphone but i feel i'd have to redraw the entire arm

>>7630388
Nope, this looks really good. Good luck with that hand tho

>>7630388
mogs me.

>8 hours of drawing just to realize i'm drawing something boring

I can't believe it but I think I might be permabeg... I'm a pretty smart guy who learns easily so I didn't think this would ever be me. Is talent... real? Are there just some minds not meant for drawing?

>>7630392
>>7630393
thanks anons

>>7630397
talent is real, for example, permabegschizo's talent is comedy, but he wants to draw
if you have no talent the only thing you can do is enjoy yourself while drawing

>>7630397
Did you try drawing coom?

>>7629535
>self-fulfilling fetishistic representations of your psyche
I've done nothing but that for years, itsa bust . you must construct , you must fundies

>>7629535
>I pity you begs who convince themselves of their inadequacy instead of engaging in self-fulfilling fetishistic representations of your psyche
What the fuck does that mean? is it bad or good?

>>7630400
That picture is bullshit because he is motherfucking Baki Hanma.
His half-brother Jack Hanma tries harder to the point of killing himself several times and is nowhere near him.

>>7630361
Cool

>>7630401
coom brings out the best in people fr
>>7630278
no problem ehehe

>>7630062
also no problem :3

>>7630270
looks freaky, i like it
>>7630215
everyone on this asian weaving basket forum is fat , maybe not physically albeit spiritually
while not in posture

Just made this. Not based on anyone or anything in particular.

>>7630420
Mogs me.

This THREAD is an ETERNAL LOOP wake up

>>7630427
no i want to dream eternally about wukong saggy tits

>>7630427
no i want to dream about obese furry men raping dark elves

>>7630410
i really forgot my english at home with this one

Looking at Twitter, I noticed that the overwhelming majority of artworks with the most likes are in white void. Why should I draw backgrounds?

>>7630494
Out of self respect you fucking animal.

>>7630494
>>7630496
>get my tax refund back late
>immediately buy a perspective course for backgrounds
am i gonna make it

extremly pleased with this even though the face is wonky. I've been enjoying the Reilly method, it flows well, even on chibis.

>>7630427
The thread is fine, but there's a lot of derailing from socially starved people.

>>7630412
bigger forehead

>>7630353
cool, still, I would love to see more contrast the thumbnail doesn't catch my attention

>>7630345
This looks daunting. Great job. Placing characters in that setting is hard, the floor and ceiling look weird. It would be cool to disregard everything and go full Paprika on that hall.

>>7630359
really sexy, the forearm looks broken

>>7630420
great job, draw the neck

>>7630499
you need more mileage but very cute
captcha: w00w4

>>7630498
>Buying courses
>For perspective out of all fucking things
Do not ever fucking pay for courses unless it includes mentorship or feedback from a reputable artist.
And nowadays artists use a fuckton of crutches to draw backgrounds amongst other things.
What the fuck can you even get from a course on perspective? Marshall's course will cover like 95% of your use cases.

It feels like her face is separate from her fucking head.
FUCK.
Tbh I just doodled the face and tried to give her a body but fucked up.
Need to redo it now with proper perspective and give her a cute tummy.

>>7630500
yes mileage and time, eventually I will get there thanks

>>7630508
it was 27 dollars i think illesurvive

>>7630510
gmi

last drawing for tonight
sad nobody likes these :(
I think I'm slowly improving maybe a bit

>>7630510
Looks very nice, the head does not seem separate to me.
But the eyes are crooked.

>>7630508
>Do not ever fucking pay for courses unless it includes mentorship or feedback from a reputable artist.
kinda unrelated but i also came to this realization recently after contemplating some courses from some artists, especially once i saw the emails
i assume they must be commissioned by some company to make these courses

Back to grinding after this, I think

>>7630410
>looks freaky, i like it
Thanks

>>7630549
nice deltarunes
i need to draw more asgore

𐎼𐎮𐎼 𐎨 𐎽𐎸𐎢𐎪

>>7630521
no.
>>7630541
GODFUCKINGDAMNITFUCKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>7630558
cool shit

>drawing fanarts as a mean to practice because characters I like are the biggest motivation I could get
>haven't been drawing for months since while I still like those characters and draw them a lot, recently I got irrationally angry drawing them
Anyone ever feels like this? This is the first time I feel like this and it just ruined my motivation, looking at their faces make me unexplainably angry I just don't feel like continuing anymore, it's not even about skill issues anymore since I still have the motivation to continue if it's only because of skill issues

>>7630562
thx :D

>>7630559
retard

>>7630578
I didnt notice the fucking face is goddamn tilted I AM BLIND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

colored this a bit

I feel like i half-ass my studies. Is this the makings of a ngmi?

>>7630585
mogs me.

>>7630007
>I'm just used to be ignored by everyone
You are too good for /beg/, most people here don't have anything of value to say to you.

>>7630181
Legs look very appealing and rendering is good, but ass looks deformed as if it's in a middle of actions as if she sways her hips to the left.

>>7630345
Theres too many screentones

nya

It's been a while since I've been happy.

>>7630270
it should be an excellent motivator because it directly reaffirms you whenever you ask yourself "why am I even doing this shit" because your goal is literally directly on the page

crab for the crab thread

finished
>>7630602
i like this

Read the portion in the sticky about digital art, and it aligns pretty nicely with these videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDkaUZCfcSw (description has recs)
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YPMrOJWuEu0
But do you guys think they're solid beginner recs, or folks who're using what they're used to? I drew this with my finger in mspaint, I believe I could make more powerful drawings with a display tablet!

>>7630499
Thanks anon.
>go full Paprika on that hall.
What?

>>7630598
I know. I will try taking some of it off sometime

>>7630666
If you are a total beg, you should buy the best tablet for the price you are not afraid to loose in case you give up 2 weeks later. I bought wacom intuos pro 2 years ago and it works great for me. If you a richfag, buy the best you can find. Your bottleneck should be your skill and not your tools.

finishing characters always feels so hard

>>7630666
we're not in 2010 anymore, most tablets are pretty alright
but think of buying a tablet as an investment

How do I get good at drawing? I'm left handed, have perpetually shaky hands, ADHD, autism and a learning disability. 24.

I've wanted to get good at art since I was a teen but I've lacked the motivations, resources and teachings to get started.

I don't know
>which brush size to use
>optimal size to draw digitally
>good pressure curve to start out with
>how to find a comfortable pressure curve
>how to undo bad habits like drawing stiff figures
>how to fix shitty lines you're too used to drawing
>how to get better when you're experienced but /beg/
I legitimately don't even know how to do sketch lines. My coordination is so fucked thanks to my autism, I can barely even sketch without even the most basic lines fucking up. I can't visually imagine stuff in my head when I'm actually drawing, and my ADHD just wants me to finish as soon as possible. I can barely decide on something as basic as what model to use when trying to sketch a head.

>he is here again

don't be a howie

>>7630709
this is just to obvious

how do you guys draw noses

>>7629111
Still debating on if I should add nipples or not.

>>7630793
uh obviously yeah, but only if theyre pink and perky

>>7630795
That goes without saying! Although I'm also a fan of pale nipples.

no idea how to simplify the wheels and underside of a train

>>7630799
I am not trying to crab, but I have no idea whether it's supposed to be a guy with ribbons in his hair or a girl. Because it honestly looks like a woman's head attached to a male body.

>>7630806
For some reason new generations find women wearing formal male clothes extremely appealing. I won't say it's bad, just a different generational taste.

wow I actually learned a lot from the first few lessons in that 30usd course kinda worth it I know what perspective grids r for now

can't paint

>>7630814
Indeed

Guys, what the fuck is even the point of using Pixiv? If you don't have premium, you don't see what's popular and if you are popular yourself, nobody sees you, unless they have premium. So most of the people don't see what's popular on pixiv, instead they see some AI and Koikatsu slop.

>>7630829
they added an AI filter, thankfully.

>>7630807
That's not new. That started to be mainstream in the 80's.
Marlene Dietrich (Morocco, 1930)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um2r30N-i7Y

>>7630829
It is kind of pointless to get lucky and people see you outside of niche things, but if you have people coming from your X or other platforms it's really good by linking directly, using it as an archive and gallery instead of a growth toll.

>>7630806
I want to draw masculine girls but you can still tell they are girls and not femboys, which is really hard for some reason, multiple people have misjudged my drawings before
I'll pay closer attention to the width of the shoulders and shape of the upper body.
>>7630807
oftentimes it's paired with a mature, maybe even cold attitude and intelligence which I find really attractive in girls. but I also prefer girls with a slightly boyish figure, so it might just be a fetish

>>7630855
Mfw no tits wide shoulders wide hips personality like a man
Its not as good as you think it is

>>7630857
wow you described me also. i have no tits wide shoulders and a deep ass autist voice too

>>7630863
Wow same. Are you me? Im curious about you now. Are you deersis?

>>7630857
hi

>>7630865
Deer has wide child bearing hips, dumbo.

>>7630874
she has no tits though

>>7630877
Flat is justice

>>7630873
Hello

>>7630593
I'm not complaining about it, I'm just excusing my disbelief about anyone asking me for feedback. I'm here for the fun community. Sometimes I got stuck here because of some long project like the Morwenna comic thing. Otherwise I would remain mostly in lurking mode.

Anyways, have a cute lurking Marlene for you, I liked this >>7630593

>>7630602
You're unstoppable anon
>>7630611
I love this fig!!
>>7630582
Nice cloth design!
>>7630558
Ancient drawing themes are always cool for some reason

>>7630855
>I want to draw masculine girls
Howe masculine? I mean if you want them to be very masculine, then of course they will be misinterpreted as men, because a very masculine anime character just looks like a male character. If you just want girl in suits, they should still have visible feminine hips and chest even if small. If you want them to be basically guys with feminine faces, then you are doing good already and don't pay attention to me.

anything i do is never good enough, its reinforced by my surroundings, im forever reminded that i am just a piece of shit. ive accepted it. nothing i do will ever be good enough for anyone. theres one reoccuring factor in every problem in my life and it's me. im fucked. it applies to drawing as well

>>7630913
buhuhu

>>7630913
Deersis...

>>7630913
This is me every day of my life but I try to drown it out with hobbies, loud music and doing stuff I like anyway.

>>7630919
that wasn't me im watchin the perspective n backgrounds course by Scott Harris rn
>>7630913
aww anon no
>>7630902
thanks! cool pic peril

>>7630913
why is every artist so dramatic including myself, i say things like this all the time

>>7630935
That was already a problem before art.

>>7630935
Artists are in the business or expression, visual expression in their case. Though when facing their own natural limitations, being that, lack of skill or motivation, that "core expression drive" will manifest through oral means and ways. They are in constant expression mode, it could be oral frustration, or visual relief if they have the sufficient skill for the later.

i realized part of why I'm struggling so much with hands trad is because my drawings are just way too tiny to feature that much information

>>7630633
Can I get your opinions?

>>7630633
in the future i would focus a bit more on composition and perspective. really fond of the rendering style you've gone for and the design is very cute

hands

>>7630633
Trooncore design. The mask hiding his masculine jaw and adam's apple were a great addition. I'd love to lick his big manly man feet...

>>7630971
Nigga...

what im doing to Deerbro once I get my hands on him

>>7630906
I'm still experimenting with the structure and proportions. after you pointed it out and made the correction, I agree this is better. Thanks!

>>7630633
>>7630953
As a design study is excellent. Now you may be in the search of the right "visual language" to take that cool design to the next level. Maybe you could start always with a super stylized version, and going form there add details and stuff

I feel like i should take a few day break from gesture to grind anatomy properly.

>>7630996
sir u r so helpful we love you

>>7630997
hello TalentGOD, 10 days in an youre already mogging 95% of ic

I wanna see you finish a full figure

incoming talent schizo rambles

>someone actually studying is mogging people who don't draw
i'm shook

>>7630997
Deersis in suicide watch.

>>7631004
Nigger you can see deersis, pawell (pbuh) and milfchad (pbuh) draw day in and out and they still get mogged by some fag not even two weeks into drawing.
If this isnt talent then what is it?
Pyw nigger

>>7630999
Hmm, i will try it. I still haven't really started studying the whole color and shadow stuff

>>7631008
none of the mentioned got mogged, you retard

>>7631009
no need for color or shadow, tho you can try implementing shadow

I just want to see what you can produce with your current skill

>>7631015
Sorry that you got mogged, permabegschizo.
Surely another 5 years of drawing will let you go from low-beg to mid-beg.

>>7631019
Why? He has already shown he draws better than 95% of this general.

>>7631021
permabegschizo is another example of someone who doesn't study, people expect to magically get better by drawing their porn/waifu/autistc obsession while some random guy shows that only actual pratice and study will make you better

>>7631019
Thats understandable, but i will try it nonetheless (tomorrow).

>>7631024
Sure buddy.
FavelaCHAD got better drawing his autistic brown obsession over and over until he had unparalled success compared to anyone else here.
Then you have deersis and Pawell who post their studies here every single day and never grasp what they need to get better.
>No bruh you are drawing WRONG you just need to draw RIGHT.
>Talent doesnt exist! Everyone is the same!
Dont worry bruh. I am pretty sure you can be as good as your fav artist if you just copy, ahem STUDY Bridgman some 4 more times.
Fucking crabbing nigger giving people false hope.

>>7631005
....uh why idc

NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD
>>7631026
>>7631026
>>7631026

>>7631033
that guy is not better than pawell and deersis, retard
he's doing great and one day he'll eventually be better, but he's not "mogging" anyone yet

>>7631036
Sure, Permabegschizo, sure.

>>7630902
>You're unstoppable anon
thanks, i'm actually trying haha. You got really nice lines and story telling, well done!

>>7630916
>>7630919
>>7630925
>>7630926
>>7630935
im fine guys mb for sperging out. it was a moment of weakness

>>7630685
>>7630696
Alright thanks fellas, I'll just get that XP Pen Display Artist 12 thing one guy rec'd and go from there. I'm used to making edits and stuff to meme, I figure it's time I make some actual OC.