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Anonymous No.7635501 >>7635504 >>7635528 >>7635536 >>7635735 >>7635852
If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates or howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

>Cool teachers
Glenn Vilppu
Michael Hampton
Steve Huston
Brent Eviston
Marco Bucci
Andrew Loomis
George Bridgman
Hikaru Hayashi

>Cool books
Keys To Drawing
Drawing With the Right Side of the Brain
How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way
The Art and Science of Drawing
Framed Perspective
Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
The Complete Guide to Drawing From Life
Last: >>>>7632935
Anonymous No.7635504 >>7635528 >>7635571
>>7635501 (OP)
putting Deersis as int is funny
Anonymous No.7635505
drawing is hard
Anonymous No.7635507 >>7635631
Anon, what do you think? This is a game I play inside my head called the Hot Dog Bishoujo, where I toss hot dog at hot girls who are annoying. Is Glizzy Blast cool? Do you think I will win the art contest?
Anonymous No.7635508 >>7635510 >>7635578 >>7635857
you can choose one of osaka
Anonymous No.7635510
>>7635508
Why not both? Either train the left to become the right or the right to become the left. Now you have both. Problem solved.
Anonymous No.7635511 >>7635513
>I do challenge
>OP doesn't include challenge pics in pic
>I don't do challenge and post my work
>OP only compiles challenge in pic
>I do both
>OP just puts some random work in pic
I am cursed to never be included on pic
Anonymous No.7635512 >>7635515 >>7635516 >>7635607
Just draw 1353
Process https://youtu.be/B42dyef9fd0
Anonymous No.7635513
>>7635511
same here, just gotta work harder so he can put you as /int/
Anonymous No.7635515 >>7635516
>>7635512
>1:19:52
nigga...
Anonymous No.7635516
>>7635512
>>7635515
>3 months of this
Anonymous No.7635519 >>7635529 >>7635535
>check Pawell's website
>he hasn't been drawing for 6 months
So, is he finally making the game he wanted and puts his art skills to use?
You aren't going to tell me he wasted hundreds of hours of his life on a skill he dropped and never going to use again, are you? He didn't draw for 3+ years just to remain a permabeg?
Anonymous No.7635521
i'm afraid even of a thought of touching my favorite character...
i'd better draw more boxes or gestural sketches. i'm not good enough to start to actually draw
Anonymous No.7635523 >>7635707
Anonymous No.7635528
>>7635501 (OP)
I-.. Its over..

>>7635504
Deerbro is /adv/ even
Anonymous No.7635529 >>7635535
>>7635519
He says he will draw "soon". He's been saying this for months now.
Anonymous No.7635530 >>7635533
https://files.catbox.moe/mcln0r.mp4
i was a little rushed but i tried to improve it
Anonymous No.7635531 >>7635545 >>7635575 >>7635707
drawing girls is cringe, maybe because im not good at it, but for now ill go back to drawing men. might try women again in a month or so.
Anonymous No.7635533
>>7635530
ty anon appreciate it
Anonymous No.7635535 >>7635539 >>7635540 >>7635697
>>7635529
>>7635519

someone a few threads ago said that Pawell admitted to quitting drawing in some discord
Anonymous No.7635536 >>7635543 >>7635707
>>7635501 (OP)
Threads go so fast... I haven't even finished mine.
Anonymous No.7635539
>>7635535
i just dm'ed him on discord.. if theres any reply i will update so we can put this all behind us once and for all
Anonymous No.7635540
>>7635535
Schrodinger's drawer
Anonymous No.7635543
>>7635536
draw faster, this couldnt have taken you more than an hour
Anonymous No.7635545 >>7635549 >>7635551
>>7635531
>drawing girls is cringe
Thats because woman irl are cringe as fuck to the point I personally cant even stand drawing them anymore
Anonymous No.7635546 >>7635547 >>7635548 >>7635550 >>7635559 >>7635672 >>7635834
Anonymous No.7635547 >>7635554 >>7635558
>>7635546
Anonymous No.7635548 >>7635554
>>7635546
OKAY I'LL HAVE FUN WITH A PENCIL
Anonymous No.7635549
>>7635545
Most people have things to do and don't check threads every day.
Anonymous No.7635550 >>7635554
>>7635546
Who and why is she puching
Anonymous No.7635551
>>7635545
based, i feel the same
Anonymous No.7635554 >>7635558
>>7635550
It seems that she is punching him >>7635547

>>7635548
It's always important to have fun :)
Anonymous No.7635557 >>7635579 >>7635810 >>7637614
Using a Marc Brunet brush, I think the lines aren't as shaky anymore
Anonymous No.7635558 >>7635563
>>7635547
>>7635554
Yamcha jobbed even to Aiza. Never ending humiliation ritual.
Anonymous No.7635559 >>7635563
>>7635546
you are my favorite poster in this board.
Anonymous No.7635561 >>7635564
have you ever copied bridgman twice with your life on the line?
Anonymous No.7635563 >>7635594
>>7635558
Well Aiza is very tough

>>7635559
Oh thank you, that's nice to hear^^
Anonymous No.7635564
>>7635561
I have never even opened my copy of bridgman
Anonymous No.7635571 >>7635574 >>7635575 >>7635657
>>7635504
Anonymous No.7635574 >>7635576
>>7635571
We've seen this already Deersis.. Post something new next time
Anonymous No.7635575 >>7635577 >>7635657 >>7635707
>>7635571
gooooood morning Deerbro

>>7635531
qts like you
Anonymous No.7635576 >>7635582
>>7635574
no, i will repost, and it will be exclusively your fault because i will only repost in response to you
Anonymous No.7635577
>>7635575
very cool linework good morningggg
Anonymous No.7635578
>>7635508
Anonymous No.7635579
>>7635557
Does the perspective work or does it look like she has short legs and a large torso? I might have stared at it too much
Anonymous No.7635582 >>7635583
>>7635576
Come to poland, I'll let you draw my dick from life
Anonymous No.7635583 >>7635585
>>7635582
y don't u msg me on twitter ? or on discord ? then we can talk it out ........
Anonymous No.7635585 >>7635588
>>7635583
Only if you send me nudes
Anonymous No.7635588 >>7635627
>>7635585
sigh //): playing hard to get /////)/:
Anonymous No.7635594 >>7635603 >>7635610 >>7635621
>>7635563
Oh yeah? What OC's here aiza can beat in a boxing match?
Anonymous No.7635603 >>7635623 >>7635626
>>7635594
the fat deer man
Anonymous No.7635607
>>7635512
Why are you doing these digitally?
Anonymous No.7635609 >>7635622
Did two sets of 10 hands from quickposes.com (300 s).

Picrel is the first set.

I was struggling to finish anything at the beginning of the first set but by the end of the second set I was able to do them in roughly half the time (although I do think that some drawings from the first set are better) and I didn't need look at the ref for the most part after analyzing the pose once, which is very comforting.

Yeah my hands still suck but they're better than how I drew before.
Anonymous No.7635610 >>7635612 >>7635626
>>7635594
Aiza vs Cyclops could go either way. Kinda depends of the rules
Anonymous No.7635612 >>7635613
>>7635610
my moneys on Aiza
Anonymous No.7635613 >>7635626
>>7635612
Cyclops has military training, but is 140 cm tall. Not sure how tall aiza is but it's gotta be way more than that
Anonymous No.7635620 >>7635629 >>7635657 >>7635707
doodle
Anonymous No.7635621 >>7635626
>>7635594
All of them >:)
You wouldnt want to mess with her
Anonymous No.7635622
>>7635609
Second set (#3 lol)

Also, is there a challenge like the last thread in every thread or does that depend on somebody feeling like it?
Anonymous No.7635623 >>7635624
>>7635603
No contest. Aaiiieee aiza you're hurting me
Anonymous No.7635624
>>7635623
she would pummel poor egil
Anonymous No.7635626 >>7635651
>>7635621
What's your thoughts on these match ups?
>>7635603
>>7635610
>>7635613
Anonymous No.7635627 >>7635628
>>7635588
Take a nude and draw it and post it.. Then I'll consider it
Anonymous No.7635628 >>7635633
>>7635627
why is your psychosexual fixation so aggressive lately
Anonymous No.7635629 >>7635630
>>7635620
Very cool. Is that a wing on her back?
Anonymous No.7635630 >>7635632 >>7635640
>>7635629
yeah, the jaw is strong because i was going for androgynous angel type look but I'm glad you interpret it as she because I was afraid it was too masculine. thank you
Anonymous No.7635631
>>7635507
Burger version
Anonymous No.7635632 >>7635637
>>7635630
No I think that went well. early /beg/ opinion but I think the strong jaw makes the design very distinctive. It's still very dreamy and ethereal to be cool and artsy so it doesn't subtract from that.
Anonymous No.7635633 >>7635637
>>7635628
You want attention and I'm giving it to you, what's the problem with that? Chop chop draw the nude bbygrl
Anonymous No.7635634 >>7635643 >>7635707 >>7636756
did this face study wdyt?
Anonymous No.7635637 >>7635639
>>7635633
are you a handsome fat man or 6 foot tall elven ethereal woman?
>>7635632
thanks! glad it worked. i haven't done a doodle like that in a bit so it pleases me to know it came out well haha
Anonymous No.7635639 >>7635644
>>7635637
>fat man
Yes
Anonymous No.7635640 >>7635644 >>7635657
>>7635630
I thought she was Female too, your ability to create unique faces that are still distinguishable between male and female is amazing
Anonymous No.7635643 >>7635647
>>7635634
Looks great love the brushwork especially the hair, are you gonna finish rendering the features ?
Anonymous No.7635644 >>7635665
>>7635640
very cool monster guy, i like the hatching
also thanks, androgyny is a hard one to figure out a lot of the time
>>7635639
post pic or not real
Anonymous No.7635646 >>7635650
it took me five years to realize that observation drawing without trying to understand form does literally nothing except train accuracy
wew lad
Anonymous No.7635647
>>7635643
yes going to get around to that later today
Anonymous No.7635650
>>7635646
oh god lmfao you too, I've been drawing for years but started actively trying to get better may 2024 and since then I've realized I really fucked up not learning forms/construction
Anonymous No.7635651 >>7635663 >>7635676
>>7635626
For deer, it would depend on how fit he is despite his fatness, like might be easy to get tired out with some quick moves, but otherwise he has clear mass advantage
For cyclops, Aiza wins, unless it's gunfight. Sure cyclops has military training but i believe it doesnt inlcude enough hand-to-hand combat that would get advantage over height difference.
Anonymous No.7635653 >>7635655 >>7635663 >>7635681 >>7635685 >>7635691 >>7635711 >>7635985 >>7636337 >>7636805 >>7636833 >>7636862 >>7636955 >>7637495
Thread challenge
Anonymous No.7635655
>>7635653
Least obvious deer post
Anonymous No.7635657 >>7635663 >>7635685 >>7636818 >>7637357
>>7635575
good midday
>>7635571
slobber

>>7635620
she reminds me a bit of malenia,

>>7635640
i love his expression, so much drama
nice work on the horns
Anonymous No.7635660 >>7635663 >>7635679 >>7635681 >>7635685
How are the sketches
Anonymous No.7635663 >>7635691
>>7635657
very expressive, your best yet I think
>>7635653
wow i can't wait to draw this
>>7635660
looks good. teach me your ways
>>7635651
he would probably tire quickly
Anonymous No.7635665 >>7635666
>>7635644
>post pic or not real
Ladies first
Anonymous No.7635666 >>7635668
>>7635665
im a bisexual obese 6ft tall man
Anonymous No.7635668 >>7635670
>>7635666
nice, I think you could make Deersis very happy with your pics
Anonymous No.7635670
>>7635668
why are you obsessed with a random egirl?
Anonymous No.7635672 >>7635711
>>7635546
aiza my beloved
Anonymous No.7635673 >>7635677
thread ruined by deers early
Anonymous No.7635676 >>7635684
>>7635651
Oh no. She's not that good at hand to hand combat. I hope she doesn't have to fight Aiza
Anonymous No.7635677
>>7635673
it's the talentschizo that's obsessed with her
Anonymous No.7635679
>>7635660
rat
Anonymous No.7635681 >>7635685 >>7635691 >>7636068
>>7635653
Actually used this ref couple months ago

>>7635660
teach me
Anonymous No.7635684
>>7635676
180+ cm AizaGOD fighting little 140 cm Cyclops with one arm behind her back to give Cyclops a fighting chance
Anonymous No.7635685 >>7635691 >>7635751 >>7635787 >>7635985 >>7636068
>>7635653
I've gotten faster atleast.

>>7635657
Nice

>>7635660
Cool. How do you practise depicting the 3d form anon? Your lines make the shape so apparent.

>>7635681
Wow.
Anonymous No.7635691 >>7636068 >>7637357
>>7635653


>>7635663
ahwww thanskies :D

>>7635685
thanskies
>>7635681
i like the tongue
Anonymous No.7635697
>>7635535
I feel bad that some people took it on themselves to treat him like a lulcow, but no one in the history of art learning has gotten more good advice directed at their exact learning process than Pawell. I kind of liked his crappy art that looked like an illustration from the 1st edition DnD manual, could been a good /int/ artist if he just had some curiosity and play in his process.
Anonymous No.7635699 >>7635704
ok now that I've gotten significantly better at perspective how do I actually utilize it
Anonymous No.7635703
Drew this VTuber because I saw her in my timeline.
I don't even know her name.
Anonymous No.7635704
>>7635699
By pacing a figgie in an environment
Anonymous No.7635707 >>7635715 >>7635723 >>7635731
>>7633667
Page 3 done. I tried to go back to his face in the first page. I want him to look like a shaky and erratic guy, but he needs to be tough when the time comes.
>>7633676
>desperate with an endearing face
Thank you so much! Yes that's the mood that I want him to portray, though I don't know if he looks handsome enough. Maybe I'll have to work on that more ahead.
>>7633677
>I enjoyed reading that second part. Curious to see where the story goes from here.
I'm always thrilled by the fact that someone is interested in these little projects, it makes me wonder what's the catch, if I'm really doing anything that interesting or appealing, lol Thank you anon! And thank you for explaining a little bit of your halftone process
>>7633680
>oh this looks fun
Thank you! I wonder tho, I always think that my shit is perhaps too cringy, but maybe I'm just too isolated from feedback.

>>7635523
I like this, nice design and composition filling the image, great face
>>7635531
I love her forearm foreshortened, this is excellent
>>7635536
GREAT face + hair combo! Nice hat lines!
>>7635575
I'm saving this just for that girl's half face, you're so freaking talented anon
>>7635620
Beautiful piece tremor!
>>7635634
It's amazing how you did his hair, people struggle so much with that, when it should be that simple.

I'm out of (You)s.. Great thread so far
Anonymous No.7635711 >>7635718 >>7636068 >>7636845
>>7635653
Big guy

>>7635672
This is very nice :)
Anonymous No.7635715 >>7637357
>>7635707
nah youre fine,
as long as youre happy with it

im always a big fan of exaggerated stuff
especially faces
and cheesy stuff
Anonymous No.7635718
>>7635711
Dude looks like Peter Griffin
Anonymous No.7635723
>>7635707

oh im very keen on this so far peril. I'm really enjoying both of their designs - the mouth dimples you gave him are very expressive and her face is very much capturing an innocent look relative to her body and shyness.
i wonder, what's led him to become so easily fixated on her.. hope you stick with this one, enjoying the designs and the intrigue quite a bit.
also, thank you!
Anonymous No.7635726 >>7635732 >>7635733 >>7635739 >>7635790
PAWELL HAS SPOKEN
Anonymous No.7635730 >>7635736
Since it was kind of my most carefully done study, I guess I tried to give him some hair out of imagination (and I think they turned out relatively fine, not botched like I had hoped) and tried to do some shading/hatching.

I haven't actually studied shading so I just tried to imagine a light source and how it'd cast shadows. Pls critique.

Original ref/study:
>>7635477

Thank you.
Anonymous No.7635731
>>7635707
youre too kind Peril, have the full pic
nice work as usual
Anonymous No.7635732 >>7635737
>>7635726
The man who rivals permabegschizo... The legend Pawell...
Anonymous No.7635733 >>7635737
>>7635726
hope he's doing ok now
Anonymous No.7635735
>>7635501 (OP)
>brownlinenigga is beg right next to aizafag
Anonymous No.7635736
>>7635730
I did the additions without looking at the ref though so looking at it, it diverges somewhat I guess.
Anonymous No.7635737 >>7635740 >>7635790
>>7635732
>>7635733
Theres still hope
Anonymous No.7635739
>>7635726
>art block
>hasn't done an original piece ever
Anonymous No.7635740 >>7635742
>>7635737
He clearly doesn't enjoy art. Why did he even do it to begin with?
Anonymous No.7635742 >>7635750
>>7635740
Because he wanted to make a videogame or some pen and paper book
Anonymous No.7635750 >>7636312
>>7635742
I remember he said he wanted to make a video game with coom under tones. That seemed strange to me, since he always avoided doing any sort of coom.
Anonymous No.7635751 >>7635797
>>7635685
Contour lines,do not grind boxes,sit with the figure for a long time,study anatomy enough to know the major muscles,longer figure drawing sessions, instead of grinding 100 gestures draw 1 figure from reference for 1 hr.
At the end of the day it all comes down to how long you have been practicing (years),you start to memorize rhythms of the body,you start to feel the form.
Anonymous No.7635753
it sucks that the hand that I have that's more adept to drawing is the same one that's lacking the fine motor memory to do detail work or straight lines
Anonymous No.7635762 >>7635764 >>7635768 >>7635784
Sky backgrounds are so OP. You barely need any painting skills and you still get a full scene in returnn
Anonymous No.7635764
>>7635762
also i traced this i kinda feel bad
Anonymous No.7635768 >>7635791
>>7635762
beautiful art
Anonymous No.7635784 >>7635791
>>7635762
mogs me
Anonymous No.7635787 >>7635797
>>7635685
I said contour lines which are like wrapping lines , practice wrapping lines like I have done in this drawing.
Anonymous No.7635788 >>7635796
aaah my left hand is so much worse than it used to be ill just have to do some drawabox with it
Anonymous No.7635790
>>7635737
>>7635726
Anonymous No.7635791
>>7635768
tysm
>>7635784
what do you draw?
Anonymous No.7635796 >>7635803
>>7635788
if i understand correctly you did this with ur bad hand? wow that's amazing. is it like something you wanna do, be ambedixtrous? I never thought of drawing with my right hand honestly would there be some benefits?
Anonymous No.7635797 >>7635804
>>7635751
>>7635787
Thanks for answering anon.
and I see. So random lines along the form? Or specific lines that define the form?
Anonymous No.7635803
>>7635796
yes! basically i noticed a long time ago my work with my non dominant hand is a lot more fluid and less "crunched" than my work with my right hand, so I sometimes draw with both, but it's been a while since I drew with my left hand exclusively for a piece so I've lost some fine motor. you'd be surprised what you learn from doing it.
Anonymous No.7635804 >>7635813
>>7635797
No random lines
Curve the lines along the form
Look at the face drawing i posted.
The side of the face is like - curve the lines over the cheek bone , then it goes in, and finally it goes over the jaw.
It's like out-in-out.
Anonymous No.7635810 >>7635926 >>7635939 >>7636923
>>7635557
Better or worse or the same?
Anonymous No.7635812 >>7636757
Anonymous No.7635813 >>7635817
>>7635804
No, that's what I mean.

Do they have to be random lines 'along the form', as in any line that follows the 3d shape, or do they have to be some specific lines like some particular muscles etc.?
Anonymous No.7635817 >>7635820
>>7635813
That's up to you (the artist) what part you want to put them on.
But when you are in beginner stage, i would suggest you to do them everywhere on the subject you are studying .
Anonymous No.7635820 >>7635828
>>7635817
I see. Thanks anon.
Anonymous No.7635822 >>7635843 >>7635865
wanna die
Anonymous No.7635824 >>7636427
I wish I had more time. All I usually get around to do is some figure drawing, sometimes doing a few days in a row for a render :(
Anonymous No.7635828 >>7635849
>>7635820
Btw these are exercises to make yourself familiar with the form of the subject you are studying, which can be anything.
You do not need to put them in final illustration, they are just to help you understand the form.
Anonymous No.7635834
>>7635546
I've always loved this meme.
Anonymous No.7635840 >>7635844
It's probably just a me problem, but I've been going to art classes and art meetups and like, nobody there gives my drawings the time of day. Which wouldn't be so bad, but the stuff that gets ogled over looks like literal finger paint or multicolored vomit onto canvas. I know it's about finding an audience, but IRL it's hard and even the pro artists there don't really give me any feedback
Anonymous No.7635843
>>7635822
don't die plz :(
Anonymous No.7635844
>>7635840
If it's a class talk to the teacher directly. You're paying them to give you advice and critique and at least a little mentorship.
Anonymous No.7635847 >>7635867 >>7635939 >>7636221
reference by toussai dubreil
Anonymous No.7635849 >>7635851
>>7635828
I understand that. These are supposed to build your intuition on drawing 3d forms right? not necessarily to train a skill to use them all, but to understand what lines and curves will convey clearly the shape of the subject.

I just saw this other thread about how you tryy to draw contours on 2d blobs to train for this somewhat too, so I attempted picrel as well.

The top portion is some geodesics and otherwise 'straight' loops (latitudes) to convey a blob like shape and the bottom part is me trying to draw random freehand squiggles and making them morph to the 3d blob I have in mind.

This is similar to the exercise you're suggesting right? Obviously not a substitute for it, but it's a quicker way to practice contours if you can't be arsed to draw subjects to study I guess.
Anonymous No.7635851
>>7635849
The bottom part has fine troughs and crests to be clear, it's not a smooth blob.
Anonymous No.7635852 >>7636427
>>7635501 (OP)
Anonymous No.7635857
>>7635508
Left during the day, at home. Right at night when going out.
Anonymous No.7635865
>>7635822
Same here
Anonymous No.7635867 >>7635874 >>7635875 >>7635877 >>7636000
>>7635847
Do you ever draw accurately? What am I looking at even. Youre a new permabegschizo I just know it
Marielx !Vidya4T.Xo No.7635871
Anonymous No.7635874 >>7635876
>>7635867
Bro. He literally can't help it. Don't be like that
Anonymous No.7635875 >>7635881
>>7635867
Bro's gonna make it in the fine art world
Anonymous No.7635876 >>7635911
>>7635874
How so?
Anonymous No.7635877 >>7635939
>>7635867
excusing feet and hands i can draw anatomically correct human figures, i just generally don't like doing so because it's boring, so I tend to seek out pretty exaggerated refs
Anonymous No.7635881 >>7635889
>>7635875
holy shit you're the first person in all of these threads ever i think to actually realize that's what I'm going for
Anonymous No.7635889 >>7635901
>>7635881
You should ditch digital and go full trad
Anonymous No.7635890
Anonymous No.7635901 >>7635920
>>7635889
yeah probably, accessibility though. except for hands and feet i can actually draw anatomically accurate human figures, i just hate doing so because it's not what I like artistically. i only really like the exaggerated proportions found in fine art.
Anonymous No.7635911 >>7635917 >>7635966
>>7635876
He has tremors aka parkinsonism
Anonymous No.7635917 >>7635920
>>7635911
eh, that's not why I draw inaccurately. most of it is a stylistic choice, and some lack of comprehension of 3d. the parkinsonism mostly affects fine features like eyes and small details and line quality. most of my proportion stuff is choice, as an example i almost exclusively use wide angle poses for construction studies
Anonymous No.7635920 >>7635929
>>7635917
>>7635901
This thread is for people to learn the basics of accuracy and anatomy. This is not the thread for you. Ditch the digital crutch and come to /trad/
Anonymous No.7635926
>>7635810
It's dogshit isn't it
Anonymous No.7635929 >>7635934
these are the image sets i use for construction studies, they're all distorted/wide angle
>>7635920
will /trad/ have any help for learning fine work? i have more or less zero interest in creating anatomically accurate figures, only exaggerated ones based on classical art. is there anyone else there who is interested in that?
in all of my time on beg i don't think ive seen another fineartfag and I just thought ic was devoid of them
Anonymous No.7635934 >>7635940
>>7635929
You'll find more of them in /trad/ than in bucket of anxious crabs that is /beg/.
Anonymous No.7635939 >>7635941
>>7635847
>>7635877
I tried to freestyle, it was pretty fun desu

>>7635810
some stuff def feels like it needs work but i cant really help you
Extreme perspective poses like that are hard
Anonymous No.7635940
>>7635934
ill take a look. maybe I should ditch digital, it's really only good for commission work but I sell a lot more trad pieces for like 20-30usd than the occasional big digital commission.
Anonymous No.7635941 >>7635943 >>7635947 >>7636221
>>7635939
forgot file again RAH
Anonymous No.7635943
>>7635941
very cool. classical art makes great refs
Anonymous No.7635947
>>7635941
Lol
Anonymous No.7635948
>figure drawing in perspective
it's too hard and i'm too impatient to grind bcs ill forget what i was going to draw or lose motivation
Anonymous No.7635966 >>7635968 >>7635976
>>7635911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySDWyKD7Ro8
Anonymous No.7635968
>>7635966
This would be impressive if someone with functioning hands would do it

his mouth IS his hand
Anonymous No.7635971
drawing anatomically accurate figures is just uninteresting relative to the exaggerated ones found in fine art
Anonymous No.7635976
>>7635966
Just another copy machine. Nothing to see here.
Anonymous No.7635985 >>7635987 >>7635997 >>7636068
>>7635653
>>7635685
Erased completely and then redrew from imagination. Pls critique.

I think I've come a long way from when I started drawing as a /beg/ 3 days ago >>7633278
Anonymous No.7635987 >>7635992
>>7635985
Now try to draw one line as one line and not as 20 short strokes.
Anonymous No.7635991
sometimes i doodle funny guys like this which are a little more proportionately accurate but they're just quick and I never finish them or fix them
Anonymous No.7635992 >>7636221
>>7635987
It's tough. I read in the Scott Robertson book 3 days ago that you should use your whole arm for drawing, but my paper is shit and the friction with the pencil is high and I don't have a flat surface to put it in so it's tough, but I'm trying to. I'm doing those exercises for drawing straight lines and ellipses and freehand curves. And I'm getting somewhat better ig, but still a long way to go before I can draw clean lines.
Anonymous No.7635996 >>7636002 >>7636008
also these types of human bodies i sketch real quick sometimes are also proportioned a bit more conventionally but still have the exaggerated hip jut
Anonymous No.7635997
>>7635985
Apparently just 2 days. It felt longer, I swear.
Also, I can tell looking at this that I need to study lower body refs next lol. I'm slowly building up an intuition for the upper body, however shit it may turn out to be, but the lower part is just fucking doraeman lmao.
Anonymous No.7636000 >>7636004
>>7635867
crabbing not supposed to be this obvious b
Anonymous No.7636002 >>7636017
>>7635996
perfect as god intended
Anonymous No.7636004 >>7636013
>>7636000
i think he's genuine, i don't think he understands that the wide angle stuff/overly wide hips and shoulders/exaggerated forearms etc is a stylistic thing. he's a turbobeg, he's posted his figures before. he can't exaggerate them to save his life so they're stiff as fuck. i think his perception of stylization is genuinely broken
Anonymous No.7636008 >>7636017
>>7635996
teach me your swirly art style
Anonymous No.7636013 >>7636014 >>7636019
>>7636004
I've never posted my figures
Anonymous No.7636014
>>7636013
either way, your eye is broken, lol. i can draw more realistic proportions, i just don't want to.
Anonymous No.7636017
>>7636008
a lot of thin pencil leads and contour drawing/continuous lines
>>7636002
thank you!
Anonymous No.7636019 >>7636028
>>7636013
so you have even less reason to be crabbing
Anonymous No.7636022 >>7636046 >>7636311
I am a victim of my own hubris
Anonymous No.7636028 >>7636034
>>7636019
talentless nodraw bitter seethes at someone superior to him, news at 11
Anonymous No.7636034 >>7636036
>>7636028
Nice samefag and double replying to me
Anonymous No.7636036 >>7636041
>>7636034
nope, didn't double reply
sorry that you're talentless
Anonymous No.7636039
deersis... so bulliable...
Anonymous No.7636041 >>7636044
>>7636036
I guess you didn't deny the samefag
Anonymous No.7636043 >>7636048 >>7636427
stop bullying Deerbro.
Anonymous No.7636044
>>7636041
didn't samefag
keep bitter seething
Anonymous No.7636046
>>7636022
now this is much better
Anonymous No.7636048 >>7636062 >>7636105
>>7636043
She's flat like cardboard
Anonymous No.7636053 >>7636057 >>7636061 >>7636186
I havent drawn digitally in a good two weeks...god im so rusty
Anonymous No.7636057 >>7636065
>>7636053
Mayor Kataragi?
Anonymous No.7636061 >>7636065
>>7636053
Motoko was a huge inspiration for him so in a way yeah, Mayor Kataragi, kinda
Anonymous No.7636062 >>7636070
>>7636048
Participant of the Itty Bitty Titty Committee here, that shit ain't flat enough.
Anonymous No.7636065
>>7636057
>>7636061
its late and I'm tired sorry for (you)ing the wrong message
Anonymous No.7636068
>>7635681
>>7635685
>>7635691
>>7635711
>>7635985
Good work boys, i love you <3
Anonymous No.7636070 >>7636072
>>7636062
Not talking about the tits
Anonymous No.7636072 >>7636076
>>7636070
oh now that's just wrong
Anonymous No.7636076
>>7636072
Am i wrong? Its like someone ran her over, she has no volume to her forms
Anonymous No.7636084 >>7636087 >>7636129
what has this poor retard done to get crabbed so hard
Anonymous No.7636087 >>7636098
>>7636084
He drew
Anonymous No.7636098
>>7636087
he didn't draw anime
Anonymous No.7636105
>>7636048
redlines are appreciated
Anonymous No.7636110 >>7636112 >>7636114 >>7636121 >>7636130
goddamnit, I just cant figure out what art style I want to go for man
any artists you guys can recommend if you tend to draw in a sketchy way and more cartoon-esque than anime
Anonymous No.7636112
>>7636110
Study the great master Pawell
Anonymous No.7636114 >>7636119
>>7636110
Find a furry artist since you love drawing obese animals
Anonymous No.7636119 >>7636126
>>7636114
I'm not deerfag
Anonymous No.7636121
>>7636110
I'm sorry you're catching my strays nonna, I'd look more into early 1900s illustration styles for comics and illustrations.
Anonymous No.7636126 >>7636169
>>7636119
Well which fag are you? How can i recommend artists without knowing what you draw
Anonymous No.7636129
>>7636084
unironically girl
that brings love and hate
Anonymous No.7636130 >>7636169
>>7636110
from time to time I go back to Charles schulz, simple, cute, energetic and fun. Other artists that you may like: Hergé, Albert Uderzo, Tove Jansson, steve purcell, frollo (smut). The french and belgian have some great cartoonist.
Anonymous No.7636145 >>7636221
today's sketch
Anonymous No.7636146 >>7636153
>literally just lowercase text makes people think it's her
deerfag is the general's protagonist
Anonymous No.7636153 >>7636155 >>7636161 >>7636168 >>7636172 >>7636174 >>7636190
>>7636146
No she's the attionwhore that derails every thread for no reason and has like 10 orbiters
Anonymous No.7636155
>>7636153
No.
Anonymous No.7636161
>>7636153
she doesn't do anything, you all just hyperfocus on her because you're psychotic
Anonymous No.7636165 >>7636427
digital lineart almost always tires me out
Anonymous No.7636168 >>7636221
>>7636153
>10 orbiters
all me
Anonymous No.7636169
>>7636126
Fair point but my recent stuff is too dogshit to post so just imagine very cheap dollar store Meat Canyon abominations

>>7636130
>Albert Uderzo
Ah, good old Asterix and Obelix, really brings me back
Anonymous No.7636172
>>7636153
actually schizophrenic
Anonymous No.7636174 >>7636184
>>7636153
you're derailing the thread by sperging out about her you fucking moron
Anonymous No.7636182
All of this samefagging
Anonymous No.7636184 >>7636194
>>7636174
he's been derailing for weeks and half of it has just been off topic sexual harassment and not art related
Anonymous No.7636186 >>7636194
>>7636053
You got a model reference? I like the pose
Anonymous No.7636190 >>7636199 >>7636219 >>7636230
>>7636153
>she
lol
lmao even
Anonymous No.7636193
Almost everyone in this thread follows her. Why are we still larping as if deerfag were an obese middle aged circumcized furfag instead of a breedable piece of fuckmeat who needs to let me impregnate her soles?
Anonymous No.7636194 >>7636213
>>7636184
the possibility of a woman being in this thread broke his mind for weeks
lol, lmao even

>>7636186
sadly no I came up with it myself, hence why I couldn't really be bothered to finish it, sorry if that disappoints, amazing art on your end though! really good looking fabric
Anonymous No.7636195 >>7636221 >>7636427
i was drawin
Anonymous No.7636199 >>7636205
>>7636190
I know, it looks like a tranny
Anonymous No.7636205 >>7636212 >>7636216 >>7636224
>>7636199
intersex
Anonymous No.7636210 >>7636223
half an hour of gesture/figure (I still don't know the difference between the two)
I just want to get to a point where I can just draw from imagination, like projecting what's in my mind onto the page, but at the moment it feels like I'm only improving my skill in copying stuff that I see in front of my eyes, rather than building up an actual understanding of it to use later.
Hopefully in a few weeks I'll notice a dent or have something click.
Anonymous No.7636212
>>7636205
Interesting
Anonymous No.7636213
>>7636194
i don't identify as female either way so it's just some awkward gender debate lol its kinda wild
cute art btw
Anonymous No.7636216 >>7636225
>>7636205
i.e. an abomination of nature
Anonymous No.7636219 >>7636228
>>7636190
Check her twitter ;)
Anonymous No.7636221 >>7637357
ignore the dragon he has autism

>>7635847
yo i like her face in this
so cheeky

>>7636145
nice legs

>>7636168
and my sentient cumsock

>>7636195
you should draw deerman like a french girl

>>7635992
your whole arm??
i dont have the space for that ;-;
>>7635941
nice tits
Anonymous No.7636223 >>7636258
>>7636210
>gesture/figure (I still don't know the difference between the two)
ime, when people talk about "gesture", they're talking about the general movement of the pose of a given figure (which is why you're likely to see simplified forms/anatomy); "figure" is much more generic and can have more or less detail, but is obviously ultimately related to a particular pose of a person/model/thing.

what's the longest time you've spent on an individual figure drawing?
Anonymous No.7636224 >>7636232
>>7636205
really intersex or?
Anonymous No.7636225
>>7636216
yes
Anonymous No.7636228
>>7636219
For what? Her dick pics?
Anonymous No.7636230
>>7636190
>>she
>lol
>lmao even
lol
lmao even
Anonymous No.7636232
>>7636224
yes
Anonymous No.7636233 >>7636240
> normal thread
Anonymous No.7636240
>>7636233
That's why it's a beg thread, people prefer to argue about someone's gender on throw schizo tantrums than drawing
Anonymous No.7636241 >>7636250
i wish i could draw without actually drawing...
if you know you know...
Anonymous No.7636247
time to play umineko
Anonymous No.7636250
>>7636241
permabegschizo...
Anonymous No.7636258 >>7636276
>>7636223
okay that makes sense!

found a 10min from the other day, it's usually as long as I can manage before I end up going over the same lines or correcting mistakes, at which point I just say fuck it and move onto the next one.
Anonymous No.7636267
I've been drawing this whole time
Anonymous No.7636273 >>7636274
thanks for killing the thread with your retardation
Anonymous No.7636274 >>7636278 >>7636279
>>7636273
i didn't want to draw today anyway...
Anonymous No.7636276 >>7636399
>>7636258
>found a 10min from the other day, it's usually as long as I can manage before I end up going over the same lines or correcting mistakes, at which point I just say fuck it and move onto the next one.
I would highly recommend adding long(er) figure drawings into your routine. I don't know what your schedule is and how much time you have every day, but half an hour of a dozen gesture/figure drawings is only going to get you so far. I don't know exactly what style or ultimate level of quality you want to be able to draw with, but presumably you want to stand out in that regard (as well as other regards). long(er) drawings, say 1+ hours, helps to push your knowledge beyond what you know or are comfortable with (even if you don't necessarily like the result). speed will come with time/knowledge, so in the early stages don't worry so much about how long it takes you to get a figure to x point. the main goal should be trying to gain the skills to get a figure to x point, then learning shortcuts to still get a desired result but in less time. now how often you should work on an individual for 1, 2, maybe 5+ hours is up to you, but it should be something you do with some frequency (even if it's once every two weeks); and, of course, you don't have to do it all in one sitting, but can stretch it across multiple days. I saw noticeable gains with my figure and portrait drawing when I started doing longer drawings/studies.
Anonymous No.7636278
>>7636274
your future self does
Anonymous No.7636279
>>7636274
i don't consent that
Anonymous No.7636285 >>7636297 >>7636823
can talentedGODS tell me how to draw hair?
Anonymous No.7636297 >>7636303 >>7636352
>>7636285
Do circles and hang lines from tension points. Paryi has a good book on the topic you can find it for free on e-hentai
Anonymous No.7636303
>>7636297
>Paryi has a good book on the topic you can find it for free on e-hentai
it's in japanese...i don't speak japanese
Anonymous No.7636305
How can I get faster at drawing anime girls? Daily practice?
Anonymous No.7636311 >>7636923
>>7636022
People irl keep saying it's ugly. Am I spamming this too much?
Anonymous No.7636312
>>7635750
is it strange? seems like the human race is constantly avoiding doing things they want to do
Anonymous No.7636321 >>7636324 >>7636326
lady
Anonymous No.7636324 >>7636327
>>7636321
how old is she
Anonymous No.7636326
>>7636321
how bold is she
Anonymous No.7636327
>>7636324
the model is in her 20s
Anonymous No.7636329 >>7636333
I refuse to draw anime girls, the Japs hate foreigners so it's only logical to retaliate
Anonymous No.7636332 >>7636457
17.
Anonymous No.7636333
>>7636329
how is not drawing them retaliation?
Anonymous No.7636337 >>7636341 >>7636343 >>7636357 >>7636359 >>7636414
>>7635653
Anonymous No.7636341
>>7636337
He drew so many ellipses that they are starting to grow inside of his uterus.
Anonymous No.7636343
>>7636337
Kek. Perfect
Anonymous No.7636352 >>7636473
>>7636297
I should stop drawing and start picking up my moonrune studies again.
But thank you, this looks great.
Anonymous No.7636357
>>7636337
kino
Anonymous No.7636359 >>7636364
>>7636337
holy kino
Anonymous No.7636361 >>7637114
how do people get cool looking lines when they do half assed gestural sketches?
it's a fucking sorcery, i hate myself for being a talentless old failure
Anonymous No.7636364 >>7636365 >>7636379
>>7636359
help dispel the rumors: do you have a cock or a vagina?
Anonymous No.7636365 >>7636370 >>7636382 >>7636385
>>7636364
i don't understand why it matters, I'm just here to draw, not to have my gender debated. I would prefer he/him or they/them, that's all.
Anonymous No.7636366 >>7636939
lads, where i can learn about picking better colours for shadows/lightning and not just using black?

For example I used redder values on skin but on the shorts and and clothing in general I don't understand where to go and what colors I have to use
Anonymous No.7636370 >>7636375 >>7636376
>>7636365
>not to have my gender debated
not talking about your "gender", I'm talking about your sex (something real)
Anonymous No.7636375 >>7636377
>>7636370
afab
Anonymous No.7636376 >>7636380
>>7636370
amab
Anonymous No.7636377
>>7636375
so you're a woman (bio fem), got it
Anonymous No.7636379
>>7636364
she must be ftm desu
Anonymous No.7636380
>>7636376
so you're a man (bio male), got it
Anonymous No.7636381 >>7636388
why do you care so much
Anonymous No.7636382
>>7636365
She/her it is then, thanks girl!
Anonymous No.7636385 >>7636389
>>7636365
so you're a faggot, got it.
Anonymous No.7636388
>>7636381
Men are needy creatures, especially the ones who hang around imageboards. I think just knowing there's a girl who shares the same hobby and is constantly interacting kind of fills the female presence most of them lack.
Anonymous No.7636389
>>7636385
yes. now can we go back to actually drawing or am I the only person in this thread who's drawing
Anonymous No.7636391
anything beyond basic biology is fanfic. you're not special, and are ironically more strict about gender norms than the average person (if I slightly deviate from the most stereotypical woman, then I'm not one!)
Anonymous No.7636392 >>7636639
I hate that stage of drawing where youre just moving shit a few pixels left right unable to tell what's right and whats not
Anonymous No.7636394 >>7636415 >>7636455 >>7636947 >>7637003 >>7637128 >>7637166
Shut the fuck up and draw hot women.
Anonymous No.7636397
>Draw for 10 minutes
>Not feeling it
>Stop
Today's not the day I pick this hobby back up...
Anonymous No.7636399
>>7636276
anon I've gotta hand it to ya
this might actually convince me and my painfully short attention span to sit still and be patient for a while.
Anonymous No.7636401 >>7636412
her fault btw
Anonymous No.7636403
that herb dean fault
Anonymous No.7636409 >>7636413
you would all rather fixate on a random person than draw and then wonder why you're /beg/
Anonymous No.7636412
>>7636401
incels fault
Anonymous No.7636413 >>7636419
>>7636409
>you would all rather fixate on a random person than draw
yep
>and then wonder why you're /beg/
nope, I know why
Anonymous No.7636414 >>7636615
>>7636337
next OP is gonna go so hard
Anonymous No.7636415
>>7636394
post one first
Anonymous No.7636419 >>7636426
>>7636413
incel schizophrenia
Anonymous No.7636426
>>7636419
>y-you're just an incel!
almost an argument
Anonymous No.7636427 >>7636430 >>7636437 >>7636455 >>7636615
>be fat
>want to fuck hot animu boys
>no hentai fat girls unless it’s a tasteless fetish tier
>not even yumejoshi content
>fineilldoitmyself.jpg

>>7635824
Aaa such good proportions

>>7635852
It’s stiff, mate, maybe look up some pose refs?

>>7636043
The tail is placed too high and the feet are too small imo

>>7636165
I think you should let your lineart be messier/more expressive so it doesn’t look stiff

>>7636195
THAT MALE ANATOMY ONE HNNNNG
Anonymous No.7636430 >>7636621
>>7636427
excuse me. you're fantastic. if that's yours do you have more?? you're fucking great. also thank you it was a referenced study I changed around of a classical anatomy illustration!
Anonymous No.7636437 >>7636621
>>7636427
>I think you should let your lineart be messier/more expressive so it doesn’t look stiff
you're right. i'm trying to use hard round brush again and hoping to get a line feel like pic related, but even his stuff isn't super smooth if you look closely
Anonymous No.7636453 >>7636459 >>7636501
This thread is full of women
Anonymous No.7636455 >>7636621
>>7636394
last before bed

>>7636427
thats crazy work sister
welcome to the thread youll fit right in
Anonymous No.7636457
>>7636332
cool!
Anonymous No.7636459 >>7636501
>>7636453
that's why focusing on deerfag in specific is redundant, half of this thread's active posters are women
Anonymous No.7636473
>>7636352
:), most art books don’t require you to read the stuff. I just draw through them. Use them as reference.
I don’t think Japanese artists even bother reading they just take the art and copy the refs to internalize the knowledge.
Good luck!
Anonymous No.7636496 >>7636533 >>7636543 >>7636554 >>7636563 >>7636623 >>7636652
how do I achieve this art style?
Anonymous No.7636501 >>7636571 >>7637040
>>7636453
>>7636459
Can you name some besides deer?
Anonymous No.7636533
>>7636496
copy it
Anonymous No.7636543
>>7636496
trace it
Anonymous No.7636554
>>7636496
steal it and claim it as yours
Anonymous No.7636563
>>7636496
damn you did some good work on there, you don't belong on int bro
Anonymous No.7636571
>>7636501
after how you guys treated deer hopefully no woman accidentally outs themselves again
Anonymous No.7636578 >>7636585
deer is a female woman with a vagina, ovaries, a womb, and eggs
Anonymous No.7636585
>>7636578
Move on retard
Anonymous No.7636587 >>7636591 >>7636615
how big do you think deer's clit is?
Anonymous No.7636591 >>7636597
>>7636587
7 inches
Anonymous No.7636595
Anonymous No.7636597
>>7636591
wouldn't mind chomping down on that sucker, if you know what I mean
Anonymous No.7636600 >>7636610 >>7636623 >>7636623 >>7636652 >>7636665
no cigar
Anonymous No.7636610 >>7636613
>>7636600
there's always tomorrow
Anonymous No.7636612
the allegations...
Anonymous No.7636613
>>7636610
I'll put more time into it tomorrow ,that was around 5mins or so
Anonymous No.7636615 >>7636621
>>7636414
based

>>7636427
very good shit

>>7636587
1 mm
Anonymous No.7636621 >>7636622 >>7636646
>>7636430
Thank you! Ye it’s mine but I don’t usually draw nsfw, I mostly draw silly interactions/comics between him and my si, I was just horny this time

>>7636437
Yeah, I think it’s mostly about confidence/precision of the strokes, not their cleanliness, but I get what you were going for. I think you need to focus on breaking stuff into simpler shapes too if that makes sense

>>7636455
>>7636615
Tyty
Anonymous No.7636622 >>7637308
>>7636621
really nice stuff. i love your self insert character, she's so cute! any socials?
Anonymous No.7636623 >>7636627
>>7636496
>>7636600
>>7636600
stronger blotches of ink
Anonymous No.7636626 >>7636939 >>7637062
I drawed not so much but it's honest work i guess
Anonymous No.7636627 >>7636850
>>7636623
good point, i need a different type of pen or to use more pens to get it across
Anonymous No.7636630 >>7636634
improved?
Anonymous No.7636634
>>7636630
definitely
Anonymous No.7636639 >>7637003
>>7636392
You did a good job getting the facial thirds divided correctly. It's mostly the placement, size and shape of some of the features that end up getting you. That and the angles of her head prevent an overall likeness to your reference. Use a bigger brush for your hatching and watch some Reiq for some solutions on facial features. Take your time making light marks before you commit to a decision. there's a lot of different approaches to hatching. You can hatch in regards to the atmosphere, light direction, form, mood, or a combination of all of them. Just make sure you hatch with intent in representing the subject as best you can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXfuovBSEIU&ab_channel=REIQ
Anonymous No.7636646 >>7637308
>>7636621
>I think you need to focus on breaking stuff into simpler shapes too if that makes sense
is there anything in the little i've done so far for the lines that come to mind for this?
Anonymous No.7636652 >>7636684
>>7636496
>>7636600
problems: too many lines broken and not going anywhere, floating lines, short straight lines, parallel lines
Anonymous No.7636655
sucks being an imaginationlet for art
Anonymous No.7636665
>>7636600
thats a strange beard
Anonymous No.7636667
Sighting sucks
Anonymous No.7636683
Fuck I've been slacking recently
Anonymous No.7636684 >>7636692
>>7636652
ty, helps a lot. what was bothering me the most was actually the head angle. i need to figure out how to get the lines to loop
Anonymous No.7636692 >>7636696
>>7636684
i was wondering about one more thing, but i dont know if this is a true observation or confirmation bias, but the original seemed to use more unpredictable/natural proportions while your study used more logical/predictable/artificial proportions like halves and thirds
Anonymous No.7636696 >>7636744
>>7636692
it's probably because i was doing those proportion accuracy figures earlier, i lost my "drawing on the right side of the brain" contour capacity because I was thinking about proportions in figures. interesting, usually i can do a much more proportionately accurate copy of something with non accurate proportions. must be a different head state
Anonymous No.7636700 >>7636706 >>7636775
Anonymous No.7636706
>>7636700
Is this loss
Anonymous No.7636714
the problem with aiming for fine art is that the subjects I fixate on generally don't fit fine art, but there's no other style I find appealing enough to pursue besides fine art, but sometimes i want to draw porn of anime girls and they don't meld with fine art at all
Anonymous No.7636744 >>7636752 >>7636753
>>7636696
>usually i can do a much more proportionately accurate copy of something with non accurate proportions

proportional non-proportionality? /ic/, is this the power of an /adv/?
Anonymous No.7636747 >>7636748
Life drawings from a. Flight
Anonymous No.7636748
>>7636747
Anonymous No.7636750
i wanna be a good drawer
Anonymous No.7636752
>>7636744
I'm a beg, i just recently found out that people thought I was incapable of more accurate figures just because I don't use them. I'm just usually pretty good at copying things like extreme renaissance proportions.
Anonymous No.7636753
>>7636744
Something like that, also known as "feeling the form".
Anonymous No.7636756
>>7635634
I think it’s really nice, however I do have crits. Eye proportions are off. Should be a little closer to the nose. Ear should be higher and the top of it should be equal to the brow line.Looks good otherwise
Anonymous No.7636757 >>7636763
>>7635812
This is really really nice. Do you have more?
Anonymous No.7636760 >>7636770
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous No.7636763 >>7636783
somehow it never dawned on me that people wouldn't realize i do weird anatomy and proportions predominantly by choice because I'm trying to emulate classical art, and just failing. all of my artistic inspiration board is like this
>>7636757
oh I can make more, they're two hands at once stuff and very quick. any requests for subjects? thank you!
Anonymous No.7636764 >>7636770
I-i-i cant draw...
Anonymous No.7636770
>>7636760
>>7636764
another meltie incoming...
Anonymous No.7636775
>>7636700
Anonymous No.7636783 >>7636784
another drawing
for all the steps forward, the steps back were coming and they have arrived
granted this was before group had started and was done without a reference, but it still looks quite shit I think

>>7636763
am inspiration board sounds like a good idea to have desu
Anonymous No.7636784 >>7636812
>>7636783
here's mine if you want to look at it
cute diablos
https://pin.it/4YvFKP2JE
Anonymous No.7636805
>>7635653
Land(bloat)lord-sama, I KNEEL
Anonymous No.7636812
>>7636784
nice ty, I really need to get back to Pinterest but it's been like a decade since I used it regularly
Anonymous No.7636814 >>7636816 >>7636838 >>7636873
my best friend left me and now im too sad to draw anything
Anonymous No.7636816
>>7636814
Draw your grief dude, it helps
Anonymous No.7636818 >>7636821
>>7635657
mm
Anonymous No.7636821 >>7636824
>>7636818
i cant believe i missed this one
glorious
Anonymous No.7636823 >>7636923
>>7636285
Anonymous No.7636824 >>7636839
>>7636821
I'm glad you like it...... i tagged you on accident but it's yours now
Anonymous No.7636833 >>7636894 >>7637169
>>7635653
Anonymous No.7636838 >>7636851
>>7636814
me but five years ago and I haven't recovered yet
Anonymous No.7636839 >>7636841 >>7637357
>>7636824
YAY
i even drew mini deerman
Anonymous No.7636841
>>7636839
aw how cute they are love....
Anonymous No.7636845
>>7635711
>Big guy
For you.
Anonymous No.7636850 >>7636894 >>7636905
>>7636627
Take the fountain pen pill.
Sailor fude de mannen bamboo green (the color matters) is goated
Anonymous No.7636851
>>7636838
this is grim
Anonymous No.7636860
Anonymous No.7636861 >>7636894
Anonymous No.7636862 >>7636883
>>7635653
I deed it
looks oke I think
Anonymous No.7636869
LET'S ALL LOV-
zzzzzzzzz
Anonymous No.7636871
iampermabeg
Anonymous No.7636873 >>7636885
>>7636814
how do friends even leave?
i didn't see a friend for 12 years and he just showed up and it was like nothing changed lmao
Anonymous No.7636878
Still way too unskilled to quickly draw a dog with its mouth open I guess lol
Anonymous No.7636883
>>7636862
mogs me
Anonymous No.7636885 >>7636887
>>7636873
online friend, he asked me to block him
Anonymous No.7636887 >>7636892 >>7636921
>>7636885
>online friend
Not real friend, sorry.
Anonymous No.7636892
>>7636887
It was real enough for him.
Anonymous No.7636893 >>7636900 >>7636923 >>7636961 >>7637206
Trying to get back into it. Having issues with skull proportions.
Anonymous No.7636894 >>7636939
Gold Ship sketch

>>7636833
>>7636850
>>7636861
awesome stuff
Anonymous No.7636900 >>7636943
>>7636893
You're back! Nice studies anon!
Anonymous No.7636905
>>7636850
wtf i should take fountain pen pill if you are
Anonymous No.7636912 >>7636919 >>7636923
I swear I can draw nice lines but when I try to do something with even a little bit of detail I shit the bed
Anonymous No.7636919
>>7636912
>uses crappy notebook paper to draw on
>wonders why it looks bad
Anonymous No.7636920
Anonymous No.7636921 >>7636924
>>7636887
what do you gain from saying such insensitive things?
Anonymous No.7636922
how good do I have to be at drawing boxes to draw tenna deltarune raping me?
Anonymous No.7636923 >>7636930 >>7636943 >>7637000
>>7635810
>>7636311
>People irl keep saying it's ugly.
At this stage, it's pretty crude and rough, but this is one of the best works I’ve seen in the last seven threads, pure fun. I think if you focus on refining the yellow area, you’ll end up with a great piece.
You're at a stage where learning how to study and analyze references can really push you forward. Maybe try analyzing Kill la Kill artwork, it might help you overcome many of the roadblocks you’ll face with this piece. Keep going, I want to see the progress :)

>>7636912
Draw bigger

>>7636893
what are your references?

>>7636823
thanks for sharing your notes!
>thirds
primes are always a recurring theme in nature kek
Anonymous No.7636924 >>7636933 >>7636940 >>7637293
>>7636921
i'm trying to show him that is not that bad, online friendships are not real friendships, it never was real
it's like online dating
Anonymous No.7636928
Some people watching stuff to end the day
Anonymous No.7636930 >>7636939
>>7636923
Are those kill la kill pics from a settei collection or from an artbook?
Anonymous No.7636933
>>7636924
sounds like youve just never personally had a good online friend before, they can very much be real.
Anonymous No.7636939 >>7637225
>>7636930
I don't know, this is the source: https://archive.org/details/gainaxandtriggerartbookarchive

>>7636894
being enjoying the mare anime lore, good work, redo the right leg.

>>7636366
a little of color relationships, chromatic grays and study work you like.
>>7636626
beautiful shapes.
Anonymous No.7636940 >>7636954
>>7636924
i met my girlfriend irl after online dating for almost a year and we're still together 3+ years later
Anonymous No.7636943 >>7636963
>>7636900
Thanks bro
>>7636923
Just skull sketcher at different angles.
Anonymous No.7636947 >>7636951 >>7636965
>>7636394
I might do another pass at the lines and appendages tomorrow. the torso seems off and was probably rushing at the end

Any tips on how to make figures feel softer when doing the lines? How do coomers make things look so squishy?
Anonymous No.7636951 >>7636952
>>7636947
She looks like she'd be great at swimming
Anonymous No.7636952
>>7636951
The women will remain in scuba gear until morale improves
Anonymous No.7636954
>>7636940
Yeah, you met her irl, that's the point
Anonymous No.7636955 >>7637128
>>7635653
kinda just eyeballed this one
Anonymous No.7636961
Haven't touched my tablet in a week so while it felt a bit rough getting back in to the swing of things with some Bridgman studies is pretty relaxing.

>>7636893
I am envious of your knowledge and draftsmanship
Anonymous No.7636963 >>7636965
>>7636943
I see, thats an impressive tool. the skulls you are drawing are vertically enlongated. you can use the canine to define the planes and roundness of the maxilla.

>Any tips on how to make figures feel softer when doing the lines? How do coomers make things look so squishy?
Unironically, the masters, in particular Raffaello and Boucher. If you study their work, you’ll notice a lot of convex lines (the famous egg shape) used to create a sense of roundness and softness.
For contemporary examples, look at Cutesexyrobutts. Analyze the figures you consider soft and count how many distinct convex lines appear on a single limb. Take a look at the right leg you drew, all the structure you built up with the blocks ends up being represented by a single wavy line.
Anonymous No.7636965
>>7636947
>>7636963
Anonymous No.7637000
>>7636923
Kill la kill was definitely the inspiration
Anonymous No.7637002 >>7637511
Asaro head frontal study
Anonymous No.7637003 >>7637128
>>7636394
i need to stop drawing references that i dont like
>>7636639
but you did the eyes nearly exactly the same
Anonymous No.7637035 >>7637049 >>7637152
Doing a 8x10 quilt of landscapes, each patch is 5cm square. How can I add detail that is easy to interpret?
Anonymous No.7637040 >>7637136
>>7636501
I can name three other women that post here. Actually, make it four
Anonymous No.7637049 >>7637077 >>7637123
>>7637035
whyre they all normal but one of them is from an alien's pov
Anonymous No.7637055 >>7637058 >>7637293 >>7637308
theres something insightful about drawing penises
Anonymous No.7637058 >>7637059
>>7637055
:/
Anonymous No.7637059
>>7637058
what
Anonymous No.7637062
>>7636626
Cute
Anonymous No.7637077 >>7637083
>>7637049
>neil armstrong was an alien
Anonymous No.7637082
I am going to lstudy this artist (loli warning)
https://x.com/nonbanger/status/1934561197380022574
Anonymous No.7637083
>>7637077
>neil armstrong
>neil a
>neila backwards
>alien
Anonymous No.7637093 >>7637128
I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing.

Everything feels like guess work that'll fall apart the second anyone but me looks at it long enough.
Anonymous No.7637114 >>7637199
>>7636361
People who can make effortless cool looking gesture already drew thousands of gestures, anon.
Anonymous No.7637123
>>7637049
no clue, but I'm gonna need more strange things to fill 80 slots.
Anonymous No.7637128 >>7637165
>>7636394
We'll see if she's still hot after my /beg/ ass is done drawing her lol.

And yes I didn't frame the pose again so I can't draw the legs this time either.

>>7636955
mogs me

>>7637003
kino

>>7637093
The perspective on the shoulder is off but otherwise looks great anon, not sure what you're worried about.
Anonymous No.7637136 >>7637140 >>7637161
>>7637040
Go on then
Anonymous No.7637140 >>7637142 >>7637190 >>7637293
>>7637136
Anonymous, Anonymous and Anonymous
Anonymous No.7637142 >>7637165
>>7637140
Wtf that's me. How did you know
Anonymous No.7637152
>>7637035
Look up some pixel art or mosaics for inspiration
Anonymous No.7637161 >>7637164
>>7637136
One girl who draws the monkeys
One girl who only draws those japanese idol girls
One girl who draws manga guys
And the fat bitch that posted a few posts ago
Anonymous No.7637164 >>7637173
>>7637161
No one has figured out that my favorite artists here are women. Good
Anonymous No.7637165 >>7637166 >>7637168 >>7637171 >>7637192 >>7637266
>>7637128
Refined this entirely from imagination/memory/studying my own anatomy and it's better than I had hoped atleast.

Pls critique. Thanks.

>>7637142
I'm a clairvoyant.
Anonymous No.7637166
>>7637165
Ref >>7636394
Anonymous No.7637168
>>7637165
Also pls give advice on "how maek hair".

I use two different methods here, for the top of the head and the left side of the sketch (right of the subject), I imagines and drew hair to be in strips while for the right side I imagined them to be little snakes with thickness. I'm not sure how good either turned out.

Also, do they follow the form correctly and is the anatomy passable?
Anonymous No.7637169
>>7636833
Very cool sharp style, I love straight lines for silhouette, it gives of TF2 vibes
Anonymous No.7637171
>>7637165
Also, the lips suck (the whole face does desu but lips especially so. I'll manage eyes and nose with some practice I suppose, but the lips, I don't even begin to understand how to draw them in an appealing way or in a proper way), I just can't figure out how to draw them properly.
Anonymous No.7637173 >>7637304
>>7637164
Don't tell me peril is a woman
Anonymous No.7637175 >>7637293
master Karsten No.7637187 >>7637195
Was scolded and sent here in shame lol

Started around 2 months ago, trying to get out of the "all I do is ugly" phase

Tried to draw from reference and try my best, added some lighting, worked on lines...

Critics' welcome, as are suggestions
Anonymous No.7637190 >>7637192
>>7637140
But im not girl, silly
Anonymous No.7637192
>>7637165
I FOUND like some 100 sheets of CLEAR PAPER in the house, JUST LYING AROUND.

I'M SAVED, HUZZAH!!

We're so back.

>>7637190
You can't fool me Anonymous.
Anonymous No.7637195
>>7637187
Well I just started two and a half days ago lmao so I'm not very qualified to give advice but you should try slow and detailed studies of the reference. Do a small part over and over and over again until you feel satisfied with the result. Take your time with a drawing and sit down for long sessions to refine what you've done. Learn perspective ig, that's the only fundamental I've learnt (I'm a mathfag though so projection was kind of known to me beforehand)

As for critique, your lines are somewhat straight and messy and overlaid things come off as being 2D i guess. I don't know how to fix that though.
Anonymous No.7637197
>install clip studio
>"we need to prepare ur software blah blah before you run csp"
>wait
>wait more
>actually i should have pressed the OK button so it could actually start to do something
tfw dumb
Anonymous No.7637199 >>7637204 >>7637215
>>7637114
i doubt that sheer quantity would somehow magically turn into quality
Anonymous No.7637204
>>7637199
It's probably experience and reinforcement. Nothing surprising there.
Anonymous No.7637206 >>7637237
>>7636893
Anonymous No.7637215
>>7637199
Quantity is not sufficient but necessary. Don't cry about your gestures being shitty when you only drew less than 0.1% of what pros drew throughout their career.
Anonymous No.7637225 >>7637511
>>7636939
More Gold Ship, this time on my shitty work office pad.

Thanks and I gree I need to redo the pose some on that one.
Anonymous No.7637237
>>7637206
Holy mog
How the fuck are you so good at drawing skulls
Anonymous No.7637261 >>7637271 >>7637292 >>7637293 >>7637308
wip i still need to draw the forearm its just going over her chest

tested my visual library w the tummy
Anonymous No.7637266 >>7637269 >>7637376
>>7637165
don't draw hair strands or locks individually before you block out the shape of the hair as a whole, not until you can consistently do this at least
the locks you drew make the hair look more like dreads because you didn't really observe the flow of the hair and because you aren't tapering the locks off at the edges enough
like on the right side of the hair it's not necessary to piece up the hair into locks because 1. the lighting makes it hard to see and 2. because it's all just one shape. regardless, you seemed to observe the flow of it incorrectly, cause it's flowing diagonally and not straight down. with a bunch of hair like that you would only really need to detail where it separates from other sections of hair or where a highlight or some shit is
Anonymous No.7637269
>>7637266
*right side of the hair next to her head, sorry
Anonymous No.7637271 >>7637276
>>7637261
really nice anon, steve huston would be pleased.
Anonymous No.7637276
>>7637271
THATS SUCH HIGH PRAISE THANK U
Anonymous No.7637292 >>7637345
>>7637261
neck is dispalced in respect to the shoulder
torso anatomy scuffed and way too thin
Anonymous No.7637293 >>7637357 >>7637521
>>7637261
i like the simplicity

>>7637140
ofcourse im a girl, hidden in the body of a worm
>>7636924
mine is one of my longest friends actually

>>7637055
if there is one thing penises taught me its circular perspective XD
>>7637175
Anonymous No.7637304 >>7637311 >>7637326 >>7637351
>>7637173
That's the most obvious one. Deerfag is a cute twink though, not a moid. There should be a couple more, the mangaka, and the monkeyfag looks sus.
Anonymous No.7637308 >>7637459 >>7637511 >>7637521
Got back from work guess it’s time to draw
>picrel is so real rn

>>7636622
Thank you! And nope I don’t post anywhere, I’d feel too embarrassed about the subject plus idk social media is so depressing, I think I’d fixate on likes/follow count too much

>>7636646
I’d lower stabilisation in the brush first things first desu. And balance straight to curved lines ratio, make strokes feel more intentional, quicker

>>7637055
Great peens

>>7637261
Aaaa the values hnnng tho imo isn’t the belly area kinda overall too small for the head/booba?
Anonymous No.7637311 >>7637321 >>7637370
>>7637304
there is no way Peril is a woman
Anonymous No.7637321 >>7637322 >>7637334
>>7637311
There are no women here. And imagine thinking that only women can write text walls, the absolute state of this board.
Anonymous No.7637322 >>7637329 >>7637336 >>7637780
>>7637321
um yes there are women here.. im having a League date with one tonight..
Anonymous No.7637326 >>7637351
>>7637304
I know for a fact the mangaka is a girl. She's admitted to it on discord. Monkeyfag admitted it too.
Anonymous No.7637329
>>7637322
Which one? We should make a list already
Anonymous No.7637332
Aaaaand the thread is ruined

Thanks retard nodraw simps
Anonymous No.7637334
>>7637321
There are some artists that I've seen that have been casually addressed as a she here.
Anonymous No.7637336
>>7637322
men can't be women anon.
Anonymous No.7637338 >>7637341 >>7637364
C'mon go follow Deer on twitter if you're so obsessed, she has pics there. Or leave her alone, i dont know. Just stop ruining the thread, this is an art board, not /soc/.

Thanks.
Anonymous No.7637341
>>7637338
Post it then fag
Anonymous No.7637345 >>7637473
>>7637292
retard
Anonymous No.7637346
Deer goes by He/Him please respect it
Anonymous No.7637349 >>7637352 >>7637376
Can I get some help drawing this hand? I can tell it loks malformed but I cant get it right.
Anonymous No.7637351 >>7637355
>>7637304
my gender is buff thing

>>7637326
yeah
i have pics on my twitter so you can see it there
Anonymous No.7637352
>>7637349
you posted during parasocial hours sorry bro come back later
Anonymous No.7637355 >>7637384 >>7637415 >>7637540
>>7637351
here
geh_thuri
Anonymous No.7637357 >>7637362
>>7635657
>>7635691
>>7635715
>>7636221
>>7636839
>>7637293
your "art" is putrid
Anonymous No.7637362
>>7637357
just how i like it
Anonymous No.7637364 >>7637373
>>7637338
people still fixate on her even when she's not posting
Anonymous No.7637370
>>7637311
What, you don't think the women can't be nasty too? They are the worst.
Anonymous No.7637373 >>7637377 >>7637378 >>7637380 >>7637450
>>7637364
in my own experience, it won't stop
i had a schizo after me for a month, and he only calmed down after i stopped posting for over a week even then he still mentions me every now and then
Anonymous No.7637376 >>7637381
>>7637266
>you didn't really observe the flow of hair
Yeah. Kind of silly ig but like I mentioned I tried to them from memory/imagination and failed.

Thanks for the advice though anon, I'll apply them to my next study.

>>7637349
Can you post the ref zoomed in so I can try?
Anonymous No.7637377
>>7637373
thats creepy
Anonymous No.7637378
>>7637373
she didn't do anything to deserve it, just got a shit hand. shows that you shouldn't let people be parasocial over you
Anonymous No.7637380
>>7637373
Tomboysissy...
Anonymous No.7637381 >>7637425
>>7637376
soz the quality is shit
Anonymous No.7637384 >>7637387 >>7637388 >>7637419 >>7637435
>>7637355
So all we need now is the pics of the mangaka girl. Deerfag and monkefag have been outed.
Anyone?
Anonymous No.7637387
>>7637384
NO WE DON'T NEED, RETARD
Anonymous No.7637388 >>7637404
>>7637384
why do you just keep ruining the thread
Anonymous No.7637389 >>7637510
Anonymous No.7637391 >>7637394 >>7637396
People keep asking who here are girls, but who here are boys?
Anonymous No.7637394
>>7637391
;3
Anonymous No.7637396
>>7637391
Everyone. Believe it or not, the weird ones with nasaly post-pubecent voices that wear dresses are actually boys
Anonymous No.7637404 >>7637421
>>7637388
For the greater good
Anonymous No.7637415
>>7637355
lol
lmao even
Anonymous No.7637419 >>7637424
>>7637384
Mangaka is very pretty
Anonymous No.7637421 >>7637428
>>7637404
Oh so you're shit at drawing
Anonymous No.7637424
>>7637419
Doubt it
Anonymous No.7637425
>>7637381
Well, here's a /beg/ interpretation of what is should look like.
Anonymous No.7637428 >>7637434 >>7637446
>>7637421
Yes, ask Deersis she has "my" figgies saved. I'm sure she'll wake up soon
Anonymous No.7637434
>>7637428
What a lucky guy
Anonymous No.7637435 >>7637449
>>7637384
Who
Anonymous No.7637446
>>7637428
pyw
Anonymous No.7637447 >>7637448 >>7637465 >>7637476 >>7637526 >>7638290
How is it now?
Anonymous No.7637448
>>7637447
Kino
Anonymous No.7637449 >>7637467
>>7637435
>>7633122
Anonymous No.7637450 >>7637456
>>7637373
>tfw art is not distinct enough to get my personal schizos
Why even bother
Anonymous No.7637456
>>7637450
just attempt learning fine art and you'll attract them like moths to a flame
Anonymous No.7637459
>>7637308
>I’d lower stabilisation in the brush first things first desu
yeah i probably should... i use the same stabilization for a pencil brush i normally use and once again i'm trying to get the same line feel as the art i posted earlier but it ends up looking off
Anonymous No.7637465
>>7637447
BIG
Anonymous No.7637466
Anonymous No.7637467 >>7637481 >>7637635
>>7637449
i guess you mean me, not sure who you are but if i told you on discord like you said before i'll be able to find out easily. not sure why you're so obsessed with bullying women. i'm just posting my art for critique not looking for anything else
Anonymous No.7637468
deerfag buck broke the thread
Anonymous No.7637473 >>7637521
>>7637345
blind retard look again at her waist and shoulder
Anonymous No.7637476
>>7637447
navel looks low.
Anonymous No.7637481 >>7637628
>>7637467
uh oh...
Anonymous No.7637490
can you anons draw for hours uninterruptely, highest i've managed is about 2 hours.
Anonymous No.7637495
>>7635653
i tasted coin cell and it tastes like purified bitterness
Anonymous No.7637497 >>7637502
I think it's ripe time for someone to bake a new thread so we can focus on drawing and feedback again.
Anonymous No.7637502
>>7637497
Nah give it a li'l bit more time. Let it get to 6th page
Anonymous No.7637510
>>7637389
I must make her pregnant.
Anonymous No.7637511 >>7637516 >>7638211
stop talking about girls, its time for MEN

>>7637308
nice style, keep posting

>>7637225
the creature

>>7637002
i like that youre consistently drawing keep it up man
Anonymous No.7637516
>>7637511
Holy based
Anonymous No.7637521 >>7637647
>>7637473
i find it funny that there's typically mini arguments over my stuff when i post things here

you're right, ill probably have to look up a ref to get the neck + shoulder area right but i wanna get it as close as i can to what im going for first
also changed the shading around the waist a bit, i wanna keep the proportions exaggerated but i did go too far

>>7637308
>>7637293
thank you :3
Anonymous No.7637526 >>7637533 >>7637614
>>7637447
Looks very cool!
You could push perspective even further - bigger hand and the thing above (don't know what it's called), smaller feet. Also connection between the shoulder and the torso seemed awkward as well as left thumb .
Anonymous No.7637533
>>7637526
holy shit
Anonymous No.7637540 >>7637554
>>7637355
muscle mommy
Anonymous No.7637554
>>7637540
:3 ehehehe
Anonymous No.7637590 >>7638290
trying out an art style
dont know why she ended up with a DDLC outfit, I never even played the damn game
Anonymous No.7637591
Anonymous No.7637614 >>7637632
>>7635557
>>7637526
I tried a more extreme perspective but I was told it looked bad
Anonymous No.7637628 >>7637748
>>7637481
definitely. he's been real quiet now
Anonymous No.7637632
>>7637614
You overdid torso perspective in that one. The hand and the wing are much closer to the viewer than body, so the body shouldn't be as distorted. Feet are the furtherest away so they should be smaller.
Extreme perspective is hard and the hardest part is that in real life extreme perspective commonly doesn't even look good. You have to tweak it and search for something that feels both correct and appealing.
Anonymous No.7637633
I lack the knowledge on the back muscles to do this one properly yet. (I did notice that most of the armor simply follows musculature with no big deviancy). Also i have to look into how to do the "inking" properly.
Anonymous No.7637635 >>7637666
>>7637467
if you figure out who this is share it openly so we can get rid of this faggot
Anonymous No.7637647
>>7637521
np :3
Anonymous No.7637653 >>7637667 >>7637670 >>7637709 >>7637752 >>7638032
im wondering
what drawing program do you all use?
Anonymous No.7637666
>>7637635
ill try my best
Anonymous No.7637667 >>7637759
>>7637653
procreate
Anonymous No.7637670 >>7637672 >>7637759
>>7637653
Pen 'n Paper 2025
It's free and open source
Anonymous No.7637672 >>7637675 >>7637778
>>7637670
(it's not free)
Anonymous No.7637675
>>7637672
I mean, yeah... But most people already have it just lying around anyways
Anonymous No.7637688 >>7637693 >>7637727
dont want to be that one but trad is the most expensive way to draw in many ways
Anonymous No.7637689
Digital when I'm at home
Trad when I'm not home, simple as
Anonymous No.7637693
did a few copies today, they mostly fucking suck
this one is probably the worst, I got the proportions all wrong and it looks goofy af

>>7637688
I just use mechanical pencils from a cheap pack from Walmart and a sketchbook from hobby lobby
also an eraser
Anonymous No.7637698
second one, I fucked up the face and head and a bit of the proportions but it's better than the last I've
Anonymous No.7637702
and the last one I did today, I think it turned out the best
I really like her expression at the very least
Anonymous No.7637708
digitrad
Anonymous No.7637709 >>7637759
>>7637653
Many people here use Krita
Anonymous No.7637727
>>7637688
it's much cooler, digital is way less interesting and soulful
Anonymous No.7637748 >>7637751
>>7637628
That's why I hate Discord. It ruins all the fun.
Anonymous No.7637751
>>7637748
are you scared i'll post who you are?
Anonymous No.7637752 >>7637759
>>7637653
clip studio paint
Anonymous No.7637753 >>7637755 >>7637758 >>7637759 >>7637770 >>7637785
yall really done it now and scared Deerbro off of ic
if I ever find you youll be in a world of hurt
Anonymous No.7637755
>>7637753
@grok is this true?
Anonymous No.7637757 >>7637763 >>7637779 >>7637973
I've finished the line art but I 'm not getting the coloring right... Should I improve the lines, add more line weight or something?
Anonymous No.7637758 >>7637760
>>7637753
>yall really done it now and scared Deerbro off of ic
she (female) doesn't deserve us. things are better this way.
Anonymous No.7637759
>>7637670
>>7637667
>>7637709
>>7637752
interesting, thanks for your answers

>>7637753
i miss him, he was my muse for more monkeys
Anonymous No.7637760
>>7637758
True, but atleast be respectful and use He or They
Anonymous No.7637763 >>7637766
>>7637757
>Based totk drawing
add a bit more weight to the outline of her face. Its a bit lacking compared to the rest of her and it will help the silhoutte, rest looks good
Anonymous No.7637766
>>7637763
Thanks :)
Anonymous No.7637770
>>7637753
maybe she went outside
Anonymous No.7637774 >>7637775 >>7637776 >>7637803
I wish womanfag-schizo would post his art instead of shitting up thread with inane babble.
Anonymous No.7637775
>>7637774
hes been too scared since i know who he is
Anonymous No.7637776 >>7637777
>>7637774
he's a turbobeg with zero talent, his art looks like a brain damaged gooner drew it
Anonymous No.7637777
>>7637776
you got any of his stuff saved?
Anonymous No.7637778 >>7637781 >>7638206
>>7637672
nor open source
Anonymous No.7637779
>>7637757
something's wrong with the face but i don't know what
maybe another anon can redline
Anonymous No.7637780 >>7637782
>>7637322
date was fun :3
Anonymous No.7637781
>>7637778
double truth failure
yikes
Anonymous No.7637782 >>7637784
>>7637780
With who? Like I said we should make a list
Anonymous No.7637784
>>7637782
a list for what?
Anonymous No.7637785 >>7637788 >>7637844 >>7637844
>>7637753
Sorry guys, I was just out having sex with some obese men.
Anonymous No.7637788
>>7637785
topkek
Anonymous No.7637803
>>7637774
he always do that when he dislikes someone, he keeps talking about the person until they stop posting
Anonymous No.7637809
i love fat man cock ,c,
Anonymous No.7637842 >>7637850 >>7637861
drew an ugly ass face again award
Anonymous No.7637844
>>7637785
ew

>>7637785
im disappointed you didnt even invite me
Anonymous No.7637850 >>7637928
>>7637842
looks good
Anonymous No.7637861 >>7637928
>>7637842
i like it
Anonymous No.7637862 >>7637870 >>7637911 >>7638290
hows the thumb read? i got the lighting setup for the most part, still fiddling with structure of the environment but im about ready to move past rough
Anonymous No.7637870 >>7637874
>>7637862
barely can read the left hand's but right hand one is very clear
Anonymous No.7637874 >>7637897
>>7637870
hmmm that might be because i forgot to add in the shadow values for the hand haha, or is it something else?
Anonymous No.7637897 >>7637934
>>7637874
i think probably because of that 'line' crossing the thumb
i see no problem otherwise and i don't think it is a problem anyways so all good
also very nice values
Anonymous No.7637907 >>7638032
Anonymous No.7637911 >>7637934
>>7637862
The thumb reads like shit, but I don't think that's of any importance to what you're going for with this piece, wich is looking pretty good so far. This is a very ambitious and elaborate pic, It's only logical that it won't read good as a thumbnail. Just Keep going.
Anonymous No.7637917
:|
Anonymous No.7637928
>>7637850
>>7637861
CrabGODS
Anonymous No.7637934
>>7637897
>>7637911
Okay well thank you guys I really appreciate it
Anonymous No.7637938 >>7637967
it's almost like i can still hear her....
Anonymous No.7637957 >>7637969 >>7638290
how long should you do a study for? i'm very /beg/ but this took like an hour and a half.

would it be better to do 3 quick ones that are pretty shitty compared to 1 somewhat shitty one?
Anonymous No.7637967
>>7637938
meds now.
Anonymous No.7637969 >>7637975
>>7637957
unless you're primarily working on patience (and perhaps other things secondarily) in a study, don't worry about time but what skill you're trying to build. if you're trying to work on accurately constructing a portrait, say, it may take you three hours depending on your skills (and the scale of the drawing), while for another an hour and a half. as long as you're pushing yourself and trying to learn in that/those area(s), that's all that matters. you can work on shortening your drawing time later.

in short, "long" is relative. but the benefit of doing a long study relative to what you normally draw is that it forced you to get outside your comfort zone. obviously you can just scribble in that additional time, but assuming you're actually trying, and paying attention, there are things to be learned. how much you should do it in comparison to "shorter" studies/drawings is hard to say, but it should probably be something consistent in your study routine.
Anonymous No.7637973 >>7637984 >>7637988
>>7637757
Too lazy to redline/draw over but I liquefied what I thought didn’t look exactly right
Anonymous No.7637974
Anonymous No.7637975 >>7637985 >>7637995
>>7637969
Thanks for the answer. The practice for this was accuracy training since I was told that's the best foundational skill to build.

I just got a tablet and this shit feels like cheating. Being able to draw a line and then drag it over reference to see if it lines up and nice and quick feedback. I just hope I'm not abusing that.
Anonymous No.7637984
>>7637973
i think it was meant to have more perspective
Anonymous No.7637985
>>7637975
You can use the software as it's intended and free transform, liquify, nudge, redraw, etc to your heart's content to save time, it's really up to you. But if you're primarily concerned about accuracy and the temptation of your software's features is too great you should do some or all of your studies in trad tbqh.

Training accuracy is a huge slog and will be painful to start, but when you become more accurate you also become faster which will aide you in the long run.
Anonymous No.7637988
>>7637973
Thanks :)
Anonymous No.7637995 >>7638030
>>7637975
>I was told that's the best foundational skill to build.
that's probably true. I would be more specific and describe it as accurately *seeing* the relationships between the different parts of a subject (e.g. what the vertical value of one point is relative to another, what the horizontal point is relative to another, the angle of this line vs that line, etc.) with that and being able to construct a subject from primary forms (spheres, cubes, cones, cylinders) you're well on your way.
>Being able to draw a line and then drag it over reference to see if it lines up and nice and quick feedback. I just hope I'm not abusing that.
depends on what your goal is, but a convenient way to check your work isn't "cheating." if you want to be more cautious about abusing it, I would say try to accurately construct your reference to completion (or what that means to you for the particular study) and *then* check; as opposed to drawing a few lines, putting your drawing over the reference, then drawing a few more, etc. so as long as you have some restraint and can wait till the whole thing's done, I don't see the problem.
Anonymous No.7638008
i think im gonna stop using gradient brushes
Anonymous No.7638011 >>7638017
Sometimes I think I don't do enough pixel art, I should work on that
Anonymous No.7638017 >>7638026
>>7638011
awesome stuff. any more deltarune?
Anonymous No.7638026 >>7638033 >>7638108
>>7638017
there's this thing I did fucking around with watercolors last month and some others I've already posted here recently
Anonymous No.7638028 >>7638033 >>7638042 >>7638094
Word on the street is that permabegschizo is the woman raper of /ic/...
Anonymous No.7638030 >>7638082
>>7637995
>being able to construct a subject from primary forms

I'm doing the Vilppu Drawing Manual on the side too. It's really helpful to see how shapes breakdown figures. I drew a couple of babies and fat ladies today.
Anonymous No.7638032
>>7637653
photoshop cs6

>>7637907
Great stuff, you can feel the movement

Ain't feeling it nya
Anonymous No.7638033 >>7638094
>>7638026
you're amazing anon
>>7638028
permabegschizo and deer are friends, so no
Anonymous No.7638037 >>7638206
kinda like it now
Anonymous No.7638042
>>7638028
permabegschizo only bullies himself
Anonymous No.7638075 >>7638080 >>7638087
Anonymous No.7638080
>>7638075
Epic
Anonymous No.7638082
>>7638030
nice. I've never gone through his drawing manual myself, but I've heard it's good. best of luck in your endeavors anon.
Anonymous No.7638087 >>7638123
>>7638075
Slightly less wippy wip
Anonymous No.7638094
>>7638028
Why would a repressed homosexual rape a woman?
>>7638033
Nobody mentioned deersis
Anonymous No.7638100 >>7638108
why is permabegschizo a repressed homosexual
Anonymous No.7638106
Anonymous No.7638107
deer's clitoris
Anonymous No.7638108
>>7638026
looks interesting
>>7638100
because he doesnt even lift
Anonymous No.7638120
Anonymous No.7638123
>>7638087
Colour
Anonymous No.7638131 >>7638134 >>7638147
doodle
Anonymous No.7638133 >>7638150
I think I might filter /(deer|monkey)\s?(fag/sis/bro)/ with no attachments as nobody including themselves seems to use these terms in any relevant way

/(deer|monkey)\s?(fag/sis/bro)/i;boards:4:ic;reason:beg-int drama;file:only;stub:no
Anonymous No.7638134 >>7638139 >>7638142
>>7638131
/(deer|monkey)\s?(fag/sis/bro)/i;boards:4:ic;reason:beg-int drama;file:no;stub:no

my bad
Anonymous No.7638139 >>7638141
>>7638134
/(deer|monkey)(\s|-)*(fag|sis|bro)/i;boards:4:ic;reason:beg-int drama;file:no

mb^2
Anonymous No.7638141
>>7638139
yeah this worked
Anonymous No.7638142
>>7638134
>Filtering "fag" in 4chan
Bruh
Anonymous No.7638143
I dont know what I doing but Im gonna finish anyway
Anonymous No.7638147
>>7638131
lovely
Anonymous No.7638150 >>7638170
>>7638133
everyone should do this and stop giving the incel schizo attention
Anonymous No.7638151
Finally trying some human gestures. I was too hesitant with my lines, maybe because the subject is less familiar to me. When I drew the waist down on the second lady I was a lot looser for whatever reason
Anonymous No.7638166 >>7638167 >>7638191
peaches peaches peaches peaches peaches
Anonymous No.7638167
>>7638166
very nice
Anonymous No.7638170 >>7638180 >>7638191
>>7638150
I'm here for the schizo fun.
Anonymous No.7638180 >>7638184
>>7638170
congratulations, you're ruining the thread then
Anonymous No.7638184
>>7638180
Schizos are the bread and butter of this board. There's no point in being here without the bizarre freaks. The world needs to laugh.
Anonymous No.7638191 >>7638232
>>7638166
>>7638170
>4 minutes and 23 seconds apart
Anonymous No.7638196
Not sure if these are comprehensible lol
Anonymous No.7638197 >>7638211
Anonymous No.7638206 >>7638211 >>7638232
I tried to draw a human in 3p perspective from the back (because I have not studied anyone from the back) entirely from imagination.

Pls critik.Thx.

>>7638037
It looked good to me from the start. How do you eyeball perspective btw anon?

>>7637778
It is open source though. All the patents behind almost all kinds of pen and paper have expired and are now public domain.

And it's free as in freedom, not free as in free beer
Anonymous No.7638211
>>7638206
I'm not sure that I placed and drew the hand correctly though.

Nor have I studied legs.

>>7638197
>Torso too short
looks fine to me

>>7637511
>keep it up man
Thanks anon
Anonymous No.7638212 >>7638214
*sobs*
Anonymous No.7638214
>>7638212
Permabegschizo......
Anonymous No.7638218 >>7638222 >>7638228 >>7638254
why is permabegschizo called that way
Anonymous No.7638222
>>7638218
Because of his unhinged self-deprecating epic rants.
Anonymous No.7638228
>>7638218
Complete and total lack of talent.
Anonymous No.7638232 >>7638314
>>7638191
huh?
>>7638206
even if you know perspective perfectly you still won't be able to draw a human body in perspective, you need to know anatomy too
But to answer your question more directly there's a few mental shortucts, generally the more things move away from the center of the page the more they will turn away, perspective doesnt actually make things turn but it looks so much like turning you might as well just do that
Also a little goes a long way with perspective, i think most drawings are pretty much orthographic projection anyway. Generally proper perspective is really limiting so most extreme perspective drawings are smoke and mirrors and whatever "feels right"
Anonymous No.7638234
time to go wageslave
Anonymous No.7638254 >>7638264 >>7638278 >>7638415
>>7638218
Because some people believe he must be a elaborate larp because nobody can draw for 12 years and show less progress than week-long beginners.
Anonymous No.7638264 >>7638278
>>7638254
Has it really been 12 years...
Anonymous No.7638278 >>7638291
>>7638254
>>7638264
it's was just 5 years if i remember correctly
Anonymous No.7638282
>just
Still suicide inducing.
Anonymous No.7638290
studying gesture from the king. I haven't watched tangled is it good? I tend to avoid 3d movies, specially from that time period. I really like the reilly method :)

>>7637447
looks cool, hair still the weakest.


>>7637590
nice, i like the spiral motif

>>7637862
I don't know what the other anon is saying, I think the thumbnail looks really clear, you can see the shape of the pecs very easily, great job, the quad orientation looks ambiguous to me, though.

>>7637957
As long as it takes, or as much as you can invest. It's good that you're keeping track of your time, but just try your best and stay mindful of what you're doing. If you do that, I believe speed and power will come naturally.

>would it be better to do 3 quick ones that are pretty shitty compared to 1 somewhat shitty one?
like most things it depends, quality and volume are both valid strategies to training.
Anonymous No.7638291
>>7638278
>just 5 years
Still worse than some anons who have been drawing here for less than a year or even a month.
Suicide inducing.
Anonymous No.7638295
Trying to unlearn bad habits is a pain in the ass. Do it right the first time, kids
Anonymous No.7638296
The moral of the story is that you should know when to give up.
If it takes you years to be mediocre at something then maybe God is trying to tell you something.
Anonymous No.7638312 >>7638332 >>7638415
Did permabegschizo deserve it?
Anonymous No.7638314 >>7638460
>>7638232
>you need to know anatomy too
I had meant to ask, what's a good place to start with anatomy?

>generally the more things move away from the center of the page the more they will turn away
Fair I can see where that comes from but I also have a little bit of math autism, I try to work out the vanishing point for every set of parallel lines in 3d by finding the line parallel to the picture plane that is perpendicular to the set of lines and then finding the vanishing point on the horizon line of the line wrt to that. But I still sort of eyeball the actual lines after finding the VPs.

Admittedly, as a result I'm really struggling to do urban landscape stuff with a lot of perspective just because of how much time it takes to figure out a single line, and my perspective isn't even very good after that.
Anonymous No.7638332 >>7638353
>>7638312
yes, he didn't draw enough
Anonymous No.7638345 >>7638353
being obsessed with technical skill doesn't mean anything if your art isn't appealing so most of this board is wasting their time. expressionism will always be more valuable to normal people
Anonymous No.7638353 >>7638356 >>7638364
>>7638332
No amount of work can overcome a complete and total lack dare I even say negative talent.
Just look at pro-permabegs like Proko. All the fucker can do is regurgitate bullshit from renaissance-era books but he doesnt have a single finished artwork on his name that isnt wishy-washy referengroid shit.
He cant even draw a fucking kangaroo from imagination.
He cant even draw a cartoon of anything.
He is a true permabeg who put in the work and now is just a permabeg who can barely copy shit and sell snake oil courses.

Honestly, just give up if you dont show any improvement in months. Years being permabeg is just criminal.
>>7638345
agree
Anonymous No.7638356 >>7638357
>>7638353
He's rich because of art, so who won?
Anonymous No.7638357
>>7638356
He has a gilded pencil he cant draw with.
Anonymous No.7638364 >>7638372
>>7638353
when i find out a piece of art required a bunch of construction and measurement to make i stop being impressed by it
Anonymous No.7638372
>>7638364
This way of thinking is going to hurt you.
Even great old painters would just paint over their mistakes.
Anonymous No.7638376 >>7638379
Can someone teach me how to draw cuteheads
Anonymous No.7638379 >>7638384
>>7638376
post an example
Anonymous No.7638384 >>7638388
>>7638379
Anonymous No.7638385
Haven't really drawn loose clothes before and it's such a pain to get them to flow right. Why does Miyabi have to have such weird sleeves...
Anonymous No.7638388
>>7638384
the cow or the skirt?
Anonymous No.7638398 >>7638399
I want to draw but nothing comes out right.
Anonymous No.7638399 >>7638415
>>7638398
pyw (and ref, if applicable)
Anonymous No.7638407 >>7638409 >>7638421
filling this sheet with doodles
I need to get some sleep and then I'll continue
Anonymous No.7638409
>>7638407
cool grievous
Anonymous No.7638415 >>7638428
>>7638399
No reference for these ones. Just a fuckton of autistic measuring and correcting and shit because I want to be able to draw faces from memory so I can doodle at work.
I am just hopeless trash.
I am tired of having to sketch out guidelines, measure autistically, erase fix and redo over and over only to end up with disgusting trash while the artists I like just fucking invoke faces.
This will get a dozen replies of hate but at this point I just know I deserve worse.

>>7638312
I deserve worse.

>>7638254
if only.

I finished my day way too late and I felt too tired to draw and seeing others draw so many beautiful things while I am stuck being a permabeg subhuman is quite demoralizing.
My body says it wants to go to sleep already instead of making yet another set of ugly grotesque dogshit nobody likes or wants but I just dont want to give up
I want to give up but I want to draw. It hurts.
Anonymous No.7638421
>>7638407
GENERAL KENOBI
Anonymous No.7638428
>>7638415
>I want to be able to draw faces from memory so I can doodle at work.
what have you done thus far to that end? I don't mean this to be rude, I genuinely mean this to be instructive, but if you simply don't yet have the skills to be able to draw what's in your head faithfully, lamenting about it won't make it so; all you can do is take your skills where they're at and try to work upon them to the extent you can and are willing.

one question would be whether you can draw things that appeal to you at all, because if you can't draw that sort of stuff with measuring and correcting, you can't reasonably expect to do so without them. another question would be what/how much effort you've made to this end. I haven't tried to work much on it myself, but I hear there are practical resources out there to work on your ability to draw from imagination which work. if you don't already do it, one thing I suspect would be very useful is master copies/studies: trying to recreate portraits and figures from artists whose style you want to emulate, and cataloging those poses and features.
Anonymous No.7638439
Beg niggas be like I just want to draw figures in any angle from imagination (literally hardest thing possible) is that too much to ask?
Anonymous No.7638455 >>7638464
good morning ic lets draw lots today !
Anonymous No.7638460
>>7638314
Any place to start is as good as any, it's more important to look for very specific information, test it then take a visual note and keep them somewhere together so later you can even order them for better memory recall. You should know best what information you're lacking, you can look through sketchfab, books on archive org or ehentai, video tutorials, dissections, other art etc

It's good to know all the geometric rules behind perspective but it's only a piece of the puzzle
Anonymous No.7638464
>20 minutes
>for this
poses with subtle foreshortening are really kicking my ass
https://files.catbox.moe/chjnry.mp4
>>7638455
ill do it (for you)
Anonymous No.7638475 >>7638476 >>7638481
new bread when?
Anonymous No.7638476 >>7638480
>>7638475
go ahead and make it
Anonymous No.7638480
>>7638476
I suck at baking (and drawing) + phoneposting so I can't make the picture.
Anonymous No.7638481
>>7638475
Why need to be in such hurry? There is nothing stopping us yet to using this, so no need to rush.
Anonymous No.7638487
I cant hold it off much longer. Make the new thread
Anonymous No.7638499 >>7638502
anyone working on making a new thread or not? if not ill cook something up
Anonymous No.7638502 >>7638503
>>7638499
go ahead
Anonymous No.7638503
>>7638502
waiting for it to let me post. 180 seconds left.
Anonymous No.7638507
>>7638505
>>7638505
>>7638505
Anonymous No.7640268
So how the FUCK do I get started painting digitally? I feel like it's so much harder to do than drawing. Drawing just gives you concepts that you could easily transfer to a tablet but painting feels like it's specific.

I want to start working with color and value, but no idea where to start. Is there like a course for digital painting or some shit?
master Karsten No.7641531
I'm trying lots of things, nothing works really.

Probably I'm trying to many things and I got too many info's going around my head?

Tried to avoid lines, tried to compose full body, tried measuring references and without... Tried shading in various ways

Anything I try looks never a step ahead, but a new source of mistakes