If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates or howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

>Cool teachers
Glenn Vilppu
Michael Hampton
Steve Huston
Brent Eviston
Marco Bucci
Andrew Loomis
George Bridgman
Hikaru Hayashi

>Cool books
Keys To Drawing
Drawing With the Right Side of the Brain
How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way
The Art and Science of Drawing
Framed Perspective
Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
The Complete Guide to Drawing From Life
Last: >>>>7632935

>>7635501 (OP)
putting Deersis as int is funny

drawing is hard

Anon, what do you think? This is a game I play inside my head called the Hot Dog Bishoujo, where I toss hot dog at hot girls who are annoying. Is Glizzy Blast cool? Do you think I will win the art contest?

you can choose one of osaka

>>7635508
Why not both? Either train the left to become the right or the right to become the left. Now you have both. Problem solved.

>I do challenge
>OP doesn't include challenge pics in pic
>I don't do challenge and post my work
>OP only compiles challenge in pic
>I do both
>OP just puts some random work in pic
I am cursed to never be included on pic

Just draw 1353
Process https://youtu.be/B42dyef9fd0

>>7635511
same here, just gotta work harder so he can put you as /int/

>>7635512
>1:19:52
nigga...

>>7635512
>>7635515
>3 months of this

>check Pawell's website
>he hasn't been drawing for 6 months
So, is he finally making the game he wanted and puts his art skills to use?
You aren't going to tell me he wasted hundreds of hours of his life on a skill he dropped and never going to use again, are you? He didn't draw for 3+ years just to remain a permabeg?

i'm afraid even of a thought of touching my favorite character...
i'd better draw more boxes or gestural sketches. i'm not good enough to start to actually draw

>>7635501 (OP)
I-.. Its over..

>>7635504
Deerbro is /adv/ even

>>7635519
He says he will draw "soon". He's been saying this for months now.

https://files.catbox.moe/mcln0r.mp4
i was a little rushed but i tried to improve it

drawing girls is cringe, maybe because im not good at it, but for now ill go back to drawing men. might try women again in a month or so.

>>7635530
ty anon appreciate it

>>7635529
>>7635519

someone a few threads ago said that Pawell admitted to quitting drawing in some discord

>>7635501 (OP)
Threads go so fast... I haven't even finished mine.

>>7635535
i just dm'ed him on discord.. if theres any reply i will update so we can put this all behind us once and for all

>>7635535
Schrodinger's drawer

>>7635536
draw faster, this couldnt have taken you more than an hour

>>7635531
>drawing girls is cringe
Thats because woman irl are cringe as fuck to the point I personally cant even stand drawing them anymore

>>7635546

>>7635546
OKAY I'LL HAVE FUN WITH A PENCIL

>>7635545
Most people have things to do and don't check threads every day.

>>7635546
Who and why is she puching

>>7635545
based, i feel the same

>>7635550
It seems that she is punching him >>7635547

>>7635548
It's always important to have fun :)

Using a Marc Brunet brush, I think the lines aren't as shaky anymore

>>7635547
>>7635554
Yamcha jobbed even to Aiza. Never ending humiliation ritual.

>>7635546
you are my favorite poster in this board.

have you ever copied bridgman twice with your life on the line?

>>7635558
Well Aiza is very tough

>>7635559
Oh thank you, that's nice to hear^^

>>7635561
I have never even opened my copy of bridgman

>>7635504

>>7635571
We've seen this already Deersis.. Post something new next time

>>7635571
gooooood morning Deerbro

>>7635531
qts like you

>>7635574
no, i will repost, and it will be exclusively your fault because i will only repost in response to you

>>7635575
very cool linework good morningggg

>>7635508

>>7635557
Does the perspective work or does it look like she has short legs and a large torso? I might have stared at it too much

>>7635576
Come to poland, I'll let you draw my dick from life

>>7635582
y don't u msg me on twitter ? or on discord ? then we can talk it out ........

>>7635583
Only if you send me nudes

>>7635585
sigh //): playing hard to get /////)/:

>>7635563
Oh yeah? What OC's here aiza can beat in a boxing match?

>>7635594
the fat deer man

>>7635512
Why are you doing these digitally?

Did two sets of 10 hands from quickposes.com (300 s).

Picrel is the first set.

I was struggling to finish anything at the beginning of the first set but by the end of the second set I was able to do them in roughly half the time (although I do think that some drawings from the first set are better) and I didn't need look at the ref for the most part after analyzing the pose once, which is very comforting.

Yeah my hands still suck but they're better than how I drew before.

>>7635594
Aiza vs Cyclops could go either way. Kinda depends of the rules

>>7635610
my moneys on Aiza

>>7635612
Cyclops has military training, but is 140 cm tall. Not sure how tall aiza is but it's gotta be way more than that

doodle

>>7635594
All of them >:)
You wouldnt want to mess with her

>>7635609
Second set (#3 lol)

Also, is there a challenge like the last thread in every thread or does that depend on somebody feeling like it?

>>7635603
No contest. Aaiiieee aiza you're hurting me

>>7635623
she would pummel poor egil

>>7635621
What's your thoughts on these match ups?
>>7635603
>>7635610
>>7635613

>>7635588
Take a nude and draw it and post it.. Then I'll consider it

>>7635627
why is your psychosexual fixation so aggressive lately

>>7635620
Very cool. Is that a wing on her back?

>>7635629
yeah, the jaw is strong because i was going for androgynous angel type look but I'm glad you interpret it as she because I was afraid it was too masculine. thank you

>>7635507
Burger version

>>7635630
No I think that went well. early /beg/ opinion but I think the strong jaw makes the design very distinctive. It's still very dreamy and ethereal to be cool and artsy so it doesn't subtract from that.

>>7635628
You want attention and I'm giving it to you, what's the problem with that? Chop chop draw the nude bbygrl

did this face study wdyt?

>>7635633
are you a handsome fat man or 6 foot tall elven ethereal woman?
>>7635632
thanks! glad it worked. i haven't done a doodle like that in a bit so it pleases me to know it came out well haha

>>7635637
>fat man
Yes

>>7635630
I thought she was Female too, your ability to create unique faces that are still distinguishable between male and female is amazing

>>7635634
Looks great love the brushwork especially the hair, are you gonna finish rendering the features ?

>>7635640
very cool monster guy, i like the hatching
also thanks, androgyny is a hard one to figure out a lot of the time
>>7635639
post pic or not real

it took me five years to realize that observation drawing without trying to understand form does literally nothing except train accuracy
wew lad

>>7635643
yes going to get around to that later today

>>7635646
oh god lmfao you too, I've been drawing for years but started actively trying to get better may 2024 and since then I've realized I really fucked up not learning forms/construction

>>7635626
For deer, it would depend on how fit he is despite his fatness, like might be easy to get tired out with some quick moves, but otherwise he has clear mass advantage
For cyclops, Aiza wins, unless it's gunfight. Sure cyclops has military training but i believe it doesnt inlcude enough hand-to-hand combat that would get advantage over height difference.

Thread challenge

>>7635653
Least obvious deer post

>>7635575
good midday
>>7635571
slobber

>>7635620
she reminds me a bit of malenia,

>>7635640
i love his expression, so much drama
nice work on the horns

How are the sketches

>>7635657
very expressive, your best yet I think
>>7635653
wow i can't wait to draw this
>>7635660
looks good. teach me your ways
>>7635651
he would probably tire quickly

>>7635644
>post pic or not real
Ladies first

>>7635665
im a bisexual obese 6ft tall man

>>7635666
nice, I think you could make Deersis very happy with your pics

>>7635668
why are you obsessed with a random egirl?

>>7635546
aiza my beloved

thread ruined by deers early

>>7635651
Oh no. She's not that good at hand to hand combat. I hope she doesn't have to fight Aiza

>>7635673
it's the talentschizo that's obsessed with her

>>7635660
rat

>>7635653
Actually used this ref couple months ago

>>7635660
teach me

>>7635676
180+ cm AizaGOD fighting little 140 cm Cyclops with one arm behind her back to give Cyclops a fighting chance

>>7635653
I've gotten faster atleast.

>>7635657
Nice

>>7635660
Cool. How do you practise depicting the 3d form anon? Your lines make the shape so apparent.

>>7635681
Wow.

>>7635653


>>7635663
ahwww thanskies :D

>>7635685
thanskies
>>7635681
i like the tongue

>>7635535
I feel bad that some people took it on themselves to treat him like a lulcow, but no one in the history of art learning has gotten more good advice directed at their exact learning process than Pawell. I kind of liked his crappy art that looked like an illustration from the 1st edition DnD manual, could been a good /int/ artist if he just had some curiosity and play in his process.

ok now that I've gotten significantly better at perspective how do I actually utilize it

Drew this VTuber because I saw her in my timeline.
I don't even know her name.

>>7635699
By pacing a figgie in an environment

>>7633667
Page 3 done. I tried to go back to his face in the first page. I want him to look like a shaky and erratic guy, but he needs to be tough when the time comes.
>>7633676
>desperate with an endearing face
Thank you so much! Yes that's the mood that I want him to portray, though I don't know if he looks handsome enough. Maybe I'll have to work on that more ahead.
>>7633677
>I enjoyed reading that second part. Curious to see where the story goes from here.
I'm always thrilled by the fact that someone is interested in these little projects, it makes me wonder what's the catch, if I'm really doing anything that interesting or appealing, lol Thank you anon! And thank you for explaining a little bit of your halftone process
>>7633680
>oh this looks fun
Thank you! I wonder tho, I always think that my shit is perhaps too cringy, but maybe I'm just too isolated from feedback.

>>7635523
I like this, nice design and composition filling the image, great face
>>7635531
I love her forearm foreshortened, this is excellent
>>7635536
GREAT face + hair combo! Nice hat lines!
>>7635575
I'm saving this just for that girl's half face, you're so freaking talented anon
>>7635620
Beautiful piece tremor!
>>7635634
It's amazing how you did his hair, people struggle so much with that, when it should be that simple.

I'm out of (You)s.. Great thread so far

>>7635653
Big guy

>>7635672
This is very nice :)

>>7635707
nah youre fine,
as long as youre happy with it

im always a big fan of exaggerated stuff
especially faces
and cheesy stuff

>>7635711
Dude looks like Peter Griffin

>>7635707

oh im very keen on this so far peril. I'm really enjoying both of their designs - the mouth dimples you gave him are very expressive and her face is very much capturing an innocent look relative to her body and shyness.
i wonder, what's led him to become so easily fixated on her.. hope you stick with this one, enjoying the designs and the intrigue quite a bit.
also, thank you!

PAWELL HAS SPOKEN

Since it was kind of my most carefully done study, I guess I tried to give him some hair out of imagination (and I think they turned out relatively fine, not botched like I had hoped) and tried to do some shading/hatching.

I haven't actually studied shading so I just tried to imagine a light source and how it'd cast shadows. Pls critique.

Original ref/study:
>>7635477

Thank you.

>>7635707
youre too kind Peril, have the full pic
nice work as usual

>>7635726
The man who rivals permabegschizo... The legend Pawell...

>>7635726
hope he's doing ok now

>>7635501 (OP)
>brownlinenigga is beg right next to aizafag

>>7635730
I did the additions without looking at the ref though so looking at it, it diverges somewhat I guess.

>>7635732
>>7635733
Theres still hope

>>7635726
>art block
>hasn't done an original piece ever

>>7635737
He clearly doesn't enjoy art. Why did he even do it to begin with?

>>7635740
Because he wanted to make a videogame or some pen and paper book

>>7635742
I remember he said he wanted to make a video game with coom under tones. That seemed strange to me, since he always avoided doing any sort of coom.

>>7635685
Contour lines,do not grind boxes,sit with the figure for a long time,study anatomy enough to know the major muscles,longer figure drawing sessions, instead of grinding 100 gestures draw 1 figure from reference for 1 hr.
At the end of the day it all comes down to how long you have been practicing (years),you start to memorize rhythms of the body,you start to feel the form.

it sucks that the hand that I have that's more adept to drawing is the same one that's lacking the fine motor memory to do detail work or straight lines

Sky backgrounds are so OP. You barely need any painting skills and you still get a full scene in returnn

>>7635762
also i traced this i kinda feel bad

>>7635762
beautiful art

>>7635762
mogs me

>>7635685
I said contour lines which are like wrapping lines , practice wrapping lines like I have done in this drawing.

aaah my left hand is so much worse than it used to be ill just have to do some drawabox with it

>>7635737
>>7635726

>>7635768
tysm
>>7635784
what do you draw?

>>7635788
if i understand correctly you did this with ur bad hand? wow that's amazing. is it like something you wanna do, be ambedixtrous? I never thought of drawing with my right hand honestly would there be some benefits?

>>7635751
>>7635787
Thanks for answering anon.
and I see. So random lines along the form? Or specific lines that define the form?

>>7635796
yes! basically i noticed a long time ago my work with my non dominant hand is a lot more fluid and less "crunched" than my work with my right hand, so I sometimes draw with both, but it's been a while since I drew with my left hand exclusively for a piece so I've lost some fine motor. you'd be surprised what you learn from doing it.

>>7635797
No random lines
Curve the lines along the form
Look at the face drawing i posted.
The side of the face is like - curve the lines over the cheek bone , then it goes in, and finally it goes over the jaw.
It's like out-in-out.

>>7635557
Better or worse or the same?

>>7635804
No, that's what I mean.

Do they have to be random lines 'along the form', as in any line that follows the 3d shape, or do they have to be some specific lines like some particular muscles etc.?

>>7635813
That's up to you (the artist) what part you want to put them on.
But when you are in beginner stage, i would suggest you to do them everywhere on the subject you are studying .

>>7635817
I see. Thanks anon.

wanna die

I wish I had more time. All I usually get around to do is some figure drawing, sometimes doing a few days in a row for a render :(

>>7635820
Btw these are exercises to make yourself familiar with the form of the subject you are studying, which can be anything.
You do not need to put them in final illustration, they are just to help you understand the form.

>>7635546
I've always loved this meme.

It's probably just a me problem, but I've been going to art classes and art meetups and like, nobody there gives my drawings the time of day. Which wouldn't be so bad, but the stuff that gets ogled over looks like literal finger paint or multicolored vomit onto canvas. I know it's about finding an audience, but IRL it's hard and even the pro artists there don't really give me any feedback

>>7635822
don't die plz :(

>>7635840
If it's a class talk to the teacher directly. You're paying them to give you advice and critique and at least a little mentorship.

reference by toussai dubreil

>>7635828
I understand that. These are supposed to build your intuition on drawing 3d forms right? not necessarily to train a skill to use them all, but to understand what lines and curves will convey clearly the shape of the subject.

I just saw this other thread about how you tryy to draw contours on 2d blobs to train for this somewhat too, so I attempted picrel as well.

The top portion is some geodesics and otherwise 'straight' loops (latitudes) to convey a blob like shape and the bottom part is me trying to draw random freehand squiggles and making them morph to the 3d blob I have in mind.

This is similar to the exercise you're suggesting right? Obviously not a substitute for it, but it's a quicker way to practice contours if you can't be arsed to draw subjects to study I guess.

>>7635849
The bottom part has fine troughs and crests to be clear, it's not a smooth blob.

>>7635501 (OP)

>>7635508
Left during the day, at home. Right at night when going out.

>>7635822
Same here

>>7635847
Do you ever draw accurately? What am I looking at even. Youre a new permabegschizo I just know it

>>7635867
Bro. He literally can't help it. Don't be like that

>>7635867
Bro's gonna make it in the fine art world

>>7635874
How so?

>>7635867
excusing feet and hands i can draw anatomically correct human figures, i just generally don't like doing so because it's boring, so I tend to seek out pretty exaggerated refs

>>7635875
holy shit you're the first person in all of these threads ever i think to actually realize that's what I'm going for

>>7635881
You should ditch digital and go full trad

>>7635889
yeah probably, accessibility though. except for hands and feet i can actually draw anatomically accurate human figures, i just hate doing so because it's not what I like artistically. i only really like the exaggerated proportions found in fine art.

>>7635876
He has tremors aka parkinsonism

>>7635911
eh, that's not why I draw inaccurately. most of it is a stylistic choice, and some lack of comprehension of 3d. the parkinsonism mostly affects fine features like eyes and small details and line quality. most of my proportion stuff is choice, as an example i almost exclusively use wide angle poses for construction studies

>>7635917
>>7635901
This thread is for people to learn the basics of accuracy and anatomy. This is not the thread for you. Ditch the digital crutch and come to /trad/

>>7635810
It's dogshit isn't it

these are the image sets i use for construction studies, they're all distorted/wide angle
>>7635920
will /trad/ have any help for learning fine work? i have more or less zero interest in creating anatomically accurate figures, only exaggerated ones based on classical art. is there anyone else there who is interested in that?
in all of my time on beg i don't think ive seen another fineartfag and I just thought ic was devoid of them

>>7635929
You'll find more of them in /trad/ than in bucket of anxious crabs that is /beg/.

>>7635847
>>7635877
I tried to freestyle, it was pretty fun desu

>>7635810
some stuff def feels like it needs work but i cant really help you
Extreme perspective poses like that are hard

>>7635934
ill take a look. maybe I should ditch digital, it's really only good for commission work but I sell a lot more trad pieces for like 20-30usd than the occasional big digital commission.

>>7635939
forgot file again RAH

>>7635941
very cool. classical art makes great refs

>>7635941
Lol

>figure drawing in perspective
it's too hard and i'm too impatient to grind bcs ill forget what i was going to draw or lose motivation

>>7635911
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySDWyKD7Ro8

>>7635966
This would be impressive if someone with functioning hands would do it

his mouth IS his hand

drawing anatomically accurate figures is just uninteresting relative to the exaggerated ones found in fine art

>>7635966
Just another copy machine. Nothing to see here.

>>7635653
>>7635685
Erased completely and then redrew from imagination. Pls critique.

I think I've come a long way from when I started drawing as a /beg/ 3 days ago >>7633278

>>7635985
Now try to draw one line as one line and not as 20 short strokes.

sometimes i doodle funny guys like this which are a little more proportionately accurate but they're just quick and I never finish them or fix them

>>7635987
It's tough. I read in the Scott Robertson book 3 days ago that you should use your whole arm for drawing, but my paper is shit and the friction with the pencil is high and I don't have a flat surface to put it in so it's tough, but I'm trying to. I'm doing those exercises for drawing straight lines and ellipses and freehand curves. And I'm getting somewhat better ig, but still a long way to go before I can draw clean lines.

also these types of human bodies i sketch real quick sometimes are also proportioned a bit more conventionally but still have the exaggerated hip jut

>>7635985
Apparently just 2 days. It felt longer, I swear.
Also, I can tell looking at this that I need to study lower body refs next lol. I'm slowly building up an intuition for the upper body, however shit it may turn out to be, but the lower part is just fucking doraeman lmao.

>>7635867
crabbing not supposed to be this obvious b

>>7635996
perfect as god intended

>>7636000
i think he's genuine, i don't think he understands that the wide angle stuff/overly wide hips and shoulders/exaggerated forearms etc is a stylistic thing. he's a turbobeg, he's posted his figures before. he can't exaggerate them to save his life so they're stiff as fuck. i think his perception of stylization is genuinely broken

>>7635996
teach me your swirly art style

>>7636004
I've never posted my figures

>>7636013
either way, your eye is broken, lol. i can draw more realistic proportions, i just don't want to.

>>7636008
a lot of thin pencil leads and contour drawing/continuous lines
>>7636002
thank you!

>>7636013
so you have even less reason to be crabbing

I am a victim of my own hubris

>>7636019
talentless nodraw bitter seethes at someone superior to him, news at 11

>>7636028
Nice samefag and double replying to me

>>7636034
nope, didn't double reply
sorry that you're talentless

deersis... so bulliable...

>>7636036
I guess you didn't deny the samefag

stop bullying Deerbro.

>>7636041
didn't samefag
keep bitter seething

>>7636022
now this is much better

>>7636043
She's flat like cardboard

I havent drawn digitally in a good two weeks...god im so rusty

>>7636053
Mayor Kataragi?

>>7636053
Motoko was a huge inspiration for him so in a way yeah, Mayor Kataragi, kinda

>>7636048
Participant of the Itty Bitty Titty Committee here, that shit ain't flat enough.

>>7636057
>>7636061
its late and I'm tired sorry for (you)ing the wrong message

>>7635681
>>7635685
>>7635691
>>7635711
>>7635985
Good work boys, i love you <3

>>7636062
Not talking about the tits

>>7636070
oh now that's just wrong

>>7636072
Am i wrong? Its like someone ran her over, she has no volume to her forms

what has this poor retard done to get crabbed so hard

>>7636084
He drew

>>7636087
he didn't draw anime

>>7636048
redlines are appreciated

goddamnit, I just cant figure out what art style I want to go for man
any artists you guys can recommend if you tend to draw in a sketchy way and more cartoon-esque than anime

>>7636110
Study the great master Pawell

>>7636110
Find a furry artist since you love drawing obese animals

>>7636114
I'm not deerfag

>>7636110
I'm sorry you're catching my strays nonna, I'd look more into early 1900s illustration styles for comics and illustrations.

>>7636119
Well which fag are you? How can i recommend artists without knowing what you draw

>>7636084
unironically girl
that brings love and hate

>>7636110
from time to time I go back to Charles schulz, simple, cute, energetic and fun. Other artists that you may like: Hergé, Albert Uderzo, Tove Jansson, steve purcell, frollo (smut). The french and belgian have some great cartoonist.

today's sketch

>literally just lowercase text makes people think it's her
deerfag is the general's protagonist

>>7636146
No she's the attionwhore that derails every thread for no reason and has like 10 orbiters

>>7636153
No.

>>7636153
she doesn't do anything, you all just hyperfocus on her because you're psychotic

digital lineart almost always tires me out

>>7636153
>10 orbiters
all me

>>7636126
Fair point but my recent stuff is too dogshit to post so just imagine very cheap dollar store Meat Canyon abominations

>>7636130
>Albert Uderzo
Ah, good old Asterix and Obelix, really brings me back

>>7636153
actually schizophrenic

>>7636153
you're derailing the thread by sperging out about her you fucking moron

All of this samefagging

>>7636174
he's been derailing for weeks and half of it has just been off topic sexual harassment and not art related

>>7636053
You got a model reference? I like the pose

>>7636153
>she
lol
lmao even

Almost everyone in this thread follows her. Why are we still larping as if deerfag were an obese middle aged circumcized furfag instead of a breedable piece of fuckmeat who needs to let me impregnate her soles?

>>7636184
the possibility of a woman being in this thread broke his mind for weeks
lol, lmao even

>>7636186
sadly no I came up with it myself, hence why I couldn't really be bothered to finish it, sorry if that disappoints, amazing art on your end though! really good looking fabric

i was drawin

>>7636190
I know, it looks like a tranny

>>7636199
intersex

half an hour of gesture/figure (I still don't know the difference between the two)
I just want to get to a point where I can just draw from imagination, like projecting what's in my mind onto the page, but at the moment it feels like I'm only improving my skill in copying stuff that I see in front of my eyes, rather than building up an actual understanding of it to use later.
Hopefully in a few weeks I'll notice a dent or have something click.

>>7636205
Interesting

>>7636194
i don't identify as female either way so it's just some awkward gender debate lol its kinda wild
cute art btw

>>7636205
i.e. an abomination of nature

>>7636190
Check her twitter ;)

ignore the dragon he has autism

>>7635847
yo i like her face in this
so cheeky

>>7636145
nice legs

>>7636168
and my sentient cumsock

>>7636195
you should draw deerman like a french girl

>>7635992
your whole arm??
i dont have the space for that ;-;
>>7635941
nice tits

>>7636210
>gesture/figure (I still don't know the difference between the two)
ime, when people talk about "gesture", they're talking about the general movement of the pose of a given figure (which is why you're likely to see simplified forms/anatomy); "figure" is much more generic and can have more or less detail, but is obviously ultimately related to a particular pose of a person/model/thing.

what's the longest time you've spent on an individual figure drawing?

>>7636205
really intersex or?

>>7636216
yes

>>7636219
For what? Her dick pics?

>>7636190
>>she
>lol
>lmao even
lol
lmao even

>>7636224
yes

> normal thread

>>7636233
That's why it's a beg thread, people prefer to argue about someone's gender on throw schizo tantrums than drawing

i wish i could draw without actually drawing...
if you know you know...

time to play umineko

>>7636241
permabegschizo...

>>7636223
okay that makes sense!

found a 10min from the other day, it's usually as long as I can manage before I end up going over the same lines or correcting mistakes, at which point I just say fuck it and move onto the next one.

I've been drawing this whole time

thanks for killing the thread with your retardation

>>7636273
i didn't want to draw today anyway...

>>7636258
>found a 10min from the other day, it's usually as long as I can manage before I end up going over the same lines or correcting mistakes, at which point I just say fuck it and move onto the next one.
I would highly recommend adding long(er) figure drawings into your routine. I don't know what your schedule is and how much time you have every day, but half an hour of a dozen gesture/figure drawings is only going to get you so far. I don't know exactly what style or ultimate level of quality you want to be able to draw with, but presumably you want to stand out in that regard (as well as other regards). long(er) drawings, say 1+ hours, helps to push your knowledge beyond what you know or are comfortable with (even if you don't necessarily like the result). speed will come with time/knowledge, so in the early stages don't worry so much about how long it takes you to get a figure to x point. the main goal should be trying to gain the skills to get a figure to x point, then learning shortcuts to still get a desired result but in less time. now how often you should work on an individual for 1, 2, maybe 5+ hours is up to you, but it should be something you do with some frequency (even if it's once every two weeks); and, of course, you don't have to do it all in one sitting, but can stretch it across multiple days. I saw noticeable gains with my figure and portrait drawing when I started doing longer drawings/studies.

>>7636274
your future self does

>>7636274
i don't consent that

can talentedGODS tell me how to draw hair?

>>7636285
Do circles and hang lines from tension points. Paryi has a good book on the topic you can find it for free on e-hentai

>>7636297
>Paryi has a good book on the topic you can find it for free on e-hentai
it's in japanese...i don't speak japanese

How can I get faster at drawing anime girls? Daily practice?

>>7636022
People irl keep saying it's ugly. Am I spamming this too much?

>>7635750
is it strange? seems like the human race is constantly avoiding doing things they want to do

lady

>>7636321
how old is she

>>7636321
how bold is she

>>7636324
the model is in her 20s

I refuse to draw anime girls, the Japs hate foreigners so it's only logical to retaliate

17.

>>7636329
how is not drawing them retaliation?

>>7635653

>>7636337
He drew so many ellipses that they are starting to grow inside of his uterus.

>>7636337
Kek. Perfect

>>7636297
I should stop drawing and start picking up my moonrune studies again.
But thank you, this looks great.

>>7636337
kino

>>7636337
holy kino

how do people get cool looking lines when they do half assed gestural sketches?
it's a fucking sorcery, i hate myself for being a talentless old failure

>>7636359
help dispel the rumors: do you have a cock or a vagina?

>>7636364
i don't understand why it matters, I'm just here to draw, not to have my gender debated. I would prefer he/him or they/them, that's all.

lads, where i can learn about picking better colours for shadows/lightning and not just using black?

For example I used redder values on skin but on the shorts and and clothing in general I don't understand where to go and what colors I have to use

>>7636365
>not to have my gender debated
not talking about your "gender", I'm talking about your sex (something real)

>>7636370
afab

>>7636370
amab

>>7636375
so you're a woman (bio fem), got it

>>7636364
she must be ftm desu

>>7636376
so you're a man (bio male), got it

why do you care so much

>>7636365
She/her it is then, thanks girl!

>>7636365
so you're a faggot, got it.

>>7636381
Men are needy creatures, especially the ones who hang around imageboards. I think just knowing there's a girl who shares the same hobby and is constantly interacting kind of fills the female presence most of them lack.

>>7636385
yes. now can we go back to actually drawing or am I the only person in this thread who's drawing

anything beyond basic biology is fanfic. you're not special, and are ironically more strict about gender norms than the average person (if I slightly deviate from the most stereotypical woman, then I'm not one!)

I hate that stage of drawing where youre just moving shit a few pixels left right unable to tell what's right and whats not

Shut the fuck up and draw hot women.

>Draw for 10 minutes
>Not feeling it
>Stop
Today's not the day I pick this hobby back up...

>>7636276
anon I've gotta hand it to ya
this might actually convince me and my painfully short attention span to sit still and be patient for a while.

her fault btw

that herb dean fault

you would all rather fixate on a random person than draw and then wonder why you're /beg/

>>7636401
incels fault

>>7636409
>you would all rather fixate on a random person than draw
yep
>and then wonder why you're /beg/
nope, I know why

>>7636337
next OP is gonna go so hard

>>7636394
post one first

>>7636413
incel schizophrenia

>>7636419
>y-you're just an incel!
almost an argument

>be fat
>want to fuck hot animu boys
>no hentai fat girls unless it’s a tasteless fetish tier
>not even yumejoshi content
>fineilldoitmyself.jpg

>>7635824
Aaa such good proportions

>>7635852
It’s stiff, mate, maybe look up some pose refs?

>>7636043
The tail is placed too high and the feet are too small imo

>>7636165
I think you should let your lineart be messier/more expressive so it doesn’t look stiff

>>7636195
THAT MALE ANATOMY ONE HNNNNG

>>7636427
excuse me. you're fantastic. if that's yours do you have more?? you're fucking great. also thank you it was a referenced study I changed around of a classical anatomy illustration!

>>7636427
>I think you should let your lineart be messier/more expressive so it doesn’t look stiff
you're right. i'm trying to use hard round brush again and hoping to get a line feel like pic related, but even his stuff isn't super smooth if you look closely

This thread is full of women

>>7636394
last before bed

>>7636427
thats crazy work sister
welcome to the thread youll fit right in

>>7636332
cool!

>>7636453
that's why focusing on deerfag in specific is redundant, half of this thread's active posters are women

>>7636352
:), most art books don’t require you to read the stuff. I just draw through them. Use them as reference.
I don’t think Japanese artists even bother reading they just take the art and copy the refs to internalize the knowledge.
Good luck!

how do I achieve this art style?

>>7636453
>>7636459
Can you name some besides deer?

>>7636496
copy it

>>7636496
trace it

>>7636496
steal it and claim it as yours

>>7636496
damn you did some good work on there, you don't belong on int bro

>>7636501
after how you guys treated deer hopefully no woman accidentally outs themselves again

deer is a female woman with a vagina, ovaries, a womb, and eggs

>>7636578
Move on retard

how big do you think deer's clit is?

>>7636587
7 inches

>>7636591
wouldn't mind chomping down on that sucker, if you know what I mean

no cigar

>>7636600
there's always tomorrow

the allegations...

>>7636610
I'll put more time into it tomorrow ,that was around 5mins or so

>>7636414
based

>>7636427
very good shit

>>7636587
1 mm

>>7636430
Thank you! Ye it’s mine but I don’t usually draw nsfw, I mostly draw silly interactions/comics between him and my si, I was just horny this time

>>7636437
Yeah, I think it’s mostly about confidence/precision of the strokes, not their cleanliness, but I get what you were going for. I think you need to focus on breaking stuff into simpler shapes too if that makes sense

>>7636455
>>7636615
Tyty

>>7636621
really nice stuff. i love your self insert character, she's so cute! any socials?

>>7636496
>>7636600
>>7636600
stronger blotches of ink

I drawed not so much but it's honest work i guess

>>7636623
good point, i need a different type of pen or to use more pens to get it across

improved?

>>7636630
definitely

>>7636392
You did a good job getting the facial thirds divided correctly. It's mostly the placement, size and shape of some of the features that end up getting you. That and the angles of her head prevent an overall likeness to your reference. Use a bigger brush for your hatching and watch some Reiq for some solutions on facial features. Take your time making light marks before you commit to a decision. there's a lot of different approaches to hatching. You can hatch in regards to the atmosphere, light direction, form, mood, or a combination of all of them. Just make sure you hatch with intent in representing the subject as best you can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXfuovBSEIU&ab_channel=REIQ

>>7636621
>I think you need to focus on breaking stuff into simpler shapes too if that makes sense
is there anything in the little i've done so far for the lines that come to mind for this?

>>7636496
>>7636600
problems: too many lines broken and not going anywhere, floating lines, short straight lines, parallel lines

sucks being an imaginationlet for art

>>7636600
thats a strange beard

Sighting sucks

Fuck I've been slacking recently

>>7636652
ty, helps a lot. what was bothering me the most was actually the head angle. i need to figure out how to get the lines to loop

>>7636684
i was wondering about one more thing, but i dont know if this is a true observation or confirmation bias, but the original seemed to use more unpredictable/natural proportions while your study used more logical/predictable/artificial proportions like halves and thirds

>>7636692
it's probably because i was doing those proportion accuracy figures earlier, i lost my "drawing on the right side of the brain" contour capacity because I was thinking about proportions in figures. interesting, usually i can do a much more proportionately accurate copy of something with non accurate proportions. must be a different head state

>>7636700
Is this loss

the problem with aiming for fine art is that the subjects I fixate on generally don't fit fine art, but there's no other style I find appealing enough to pursue besides fine art, but sometimes i want to draw porn of anime girls and they don't meld with fine art at all

>>7636696
>usually i can do a much more proportionately accurate copy of something with non accurate proportions

proportional non-proportionality? /ic/, is this the power of an /adv/?

Life drawings from a. Flight

>>7636747

i wanna be a good drawer

>>7636744
I'm a beg, i just recently found out that people thought I was incapable of more accurate figures just because I don't use them. I'm just usually pretty good at copying things like extreme renaissance proportions.

>>7636744
Something like that, also known as "feeling the form".

>>7635634
I think it’s really nice, however I do have crits. Eye proportions are off. Should be a little closer to the nose. Ear should be higher and the top of it should be equal to the brow line.Looks good otherwise

>>7635812
This is really really nice. Do you have more?

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

somehow it never dawned on me that people wouldn't realize i do weird anatomy and proportions predominantly by choice because I'm trying to emulate classical art, and just failing. all of my artistic inspiration board is like this
>>7636757
oh I can make more, they're two hands at once stuff and very quick. any requests for subjects? thank you!

I-i-i cant draw...

>>7636760
>>7636764
another meltie incoming...

>>7636700

another drawing
for all the steps forward, the steps back were coming and they have arrived
granted this was before group had started and was done without a reference, but it still looks quite shit I think

>>7636763
am inspiration board sounds like a good idea to have desu

>>7636783
here's mine if you want to look at it
cute diablos
https://pin.it/4YvFKP2JE

>>7635653
Land(bloat)lord-sama, I KNEEL

>>7636784
nice ty, I really need to get back to Pinterest but it's been like a decade since I used it regularly

my best friend left me and now im too sad to draw anything

>>7636814
Draw your grief dude, it helps

>>7635657
mm

>>7636818
i cant believe i missed this one
glorious

>>7636285

>>7636821
I'm glad you like it...... i tagged you on accident but it's yours now

>>7635653

>>7636814
me but five years ago and I haven't recovered yet

>>7636824
YAY
i even drew mini deerman

>>7636839
aw how cute they are love....

>>7635711
>Big guy
For you.

>>7636627
Take the fountain pen pill.
Sailor fude de mannen bamboo green (the color matters) is goated

>>7636838
this is grim

>>7635653
I deed it
looks oke I think

LET'S ALL LOV-
zzzzzzzzz

iampermabeg

>>7636814
how do friends even leave?
i didn't see a friend for 12 years and he just showed up and it was like nothing changed lmao

Still way too unskilled to quickly draw a dog with its mouth open I guess lol

>>7636862
mogs me

>>7636873
online friend, he asked me to block him

>>7636885
>online friend
Not real friend, sorry.

>>7636887
It was real enough for him.

Trying to get back into it. Having issues with skull proportions.

Gold Ship sketch

>>7636833
>>7636850
>>7636861
awesome stuff

>>7636893
You're back! Nice studies anon!

>>7636850
wtf i should take fountain pen pill if you are

I swear I can draw nice lines but when I try to do something with even a little bit of detail I shit the bed

>>7636912
>uses crappy notebook paper to draw on
>wonders why it looks bad

>>7636887
what do you gain from saying such insensitive things?

how good do I have to be at drawing boxes to draw tenna deltarune raping me?

>>7635810
>>7636311
>People irl keep saying it's ugly.
At this stage, it's pretty crude and rough, but this is one of the best works I’ve seen in the last seven threads, pure fun. I think if you focus on refining the yellow area, you’ll end up with a great piece.
You're at a stage where learning how to study and analyze references can really push you forward. Maybe try analyzing Kill la Kill artwork, it might help you overcome many of the roadblocks you’ll face with this piece. Keep going, I want to see the progress :)

>>7636912
Draw bigger

>>7636893
what are your references?

>>7636823
thanks for sharing your notes!
>thirds
primes are always a recurring theme in nature kek

>>7636921
i'm trying to show him that is not that bad, online friendships are not real friendships, it never was real
it's like online dating

Some people watching stuff to end the day

>>7636923
Are those kill la kill pics from a settei collection or from an artbook?

>>7636924
sounds like youve just never personally had a good online friend before, they can very much be real.

>>7636930
I don't know, this is the source: https://archive.org/details/gainaxandtriggerartbookarchive

>>7636894
being enjoying the mare anime lore, good work, redo the right leg.

>>7636366
a little of color relationships, chromatic grays and study work you like.
>>7636626
beautiful shapes.

>>7636924
i met my girlfriend irl after online dating for almost a year and we're still together 3+ years later

>>7636900
Thanks bro
>>7636923
Just skull sketcher at different angles.

>>7636394
I might do another pass at the lines and appendages tomorrow. the torso seems off and was probably rushing at the end

Any tips on how to make figures feel softer when doing the lines? How do coomers make things look so squishy?

>>7636947
She looks like she'd be great at swimming

>>7636951
The women will remain in scuba gear until morale improves

>>7636940
Yeah, you met her irl, that's the point

>>7635653
kinda just eyeballed this one

Haven't touched my tablet in a week so while it felt a bit rough getting back in to the swing of things with some Bridgman studies is pretty relaxing.

>>7636893
I am envious of your knowledge and draftsmanship

>>7636943
I see, thats an impressive tool. the skulls you are drawing are vertically enlongated. you can use the canine to define the planes and roundness of the maxilla.

>Any tips on how to make figures feel softer when doing the lines? How do coomers make things look so squishy?
Unironically, the masters, in particular Raffaello and Boucher. If you study their work, you’ll notice a lot of convex lines (the famous egg shape) used to create a sense of roundness and softness.
For contemporary examples, look at Cutesexyrobutts. Analyze the figures you consider soft and count how many distinct convex lines appear on a single limb. Take a look at the right leg you drew, all the structure you built up with the blocks ends up being represented by a single wavy line.

>>7636947
>>7636963

>>7636923
Kill la kill was definitely the inspiration

Asaro head frontal study

>>7636394
i need to stop drawing references that i dont like
>>7636639
but you did the eyes nearly exactly the same

Doing a 8x10 quilt of landscapes, each patch is 5cm square. How can I add detail that is easy to interpret?

>>7636501
I can name three other women that post here. Actually, make it four

>>7637035
whyre they all normal but one of them is from an alien's pov

theres something insightful about drawing penises

>>7637055
:/

>>7637058
what

>>7636626
Cute

>>7637049
>neil armstrong was an alien

I am going to lstudy this artist (loli warning)
https://x.com/nonbanger/status/1934561197380022574

>>7637077
>neil armstrong
>neil a
>neila backwards
>alien

I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing.

Everything feels like guess work that'll fall apart the second anyone but me looks at it long enough.

>>7636361
People who can make effortless cool looking gesture already drew thousands of gestures, anon.

>>7637049
no clue, but I'm gonna need more strange things to fill 80 slots.

>>7636394
We'll see if she's still hot after my /beg/ ass is done drawing her lol.

And yes I didn't frame the pose again so I can't draw the legs this time either.

>>7636955
mogs me

>>7637003
kino

>>7637093
The perspective on the shoulder is off but otherwise looks great anon, not sure what you're worried about.

>>7637040
Go on then

>>7637136
Anonymous, Anonymous and Anonymous

>>7637140
Wtf that's me. How did you know

>>7637035
Look up some pixel art or mosaics for inspiration

>>7637136
One girl who draws the monkeys
One girl who only draws those japanese idol girls
One girl who draws manga guys
And the fat bitch that posted a few posts ago

>>7637161
No one has figured out that my favorite artists here are women. Good

>>7637128
Refined this entirely from imagination/memory/studying my own anatomy and it's better than I had hoped atleast.

Pls critique. Thanks.

>>7637142
I'm a clairvoyant.

>>7637165
Ref >>7636394

>>7637165
Also pls give advice on "how maek hair".

I use two different methods here, for the top of the head and the left side of the sketch (right of the subject), I imagines and drew hair to be in strips while for the right side I imagined them to be little snakes with thickness. I'm not sure how good either turned out.

Also, do they follow the form correctly and is the anatomy passable?

>>7636833
Very cool sharp style, I love straight lines for silhouette, it gives of TF2 vibes

>>7637165
Also, the lips suck (the whole face does desu but lips especially so. I'll manage eyes and nose with some practice I suppose, but the lips, I don't even begin to understand how to draw them in an appealing way or in a proper way), I just can't figure out how to draw them properly.

>>7637164
Don't tell me peril is a woman

Was scolded and sent here in shame lol

Started around 2 months ago, trying to get out of the "all I do is ugly" phase

Tried to draw from reference and try my best, added some lighting, worked on lines...

Critics' welcome, as are suggestions

>>7637140
But im not girl, silly

>>7637165
I FOUND like some 100 sheets of CLEAR PAPER in the house, JUST LYING AROUND.

I'M SAVED, HUZZAH!!

We're so back.

>>7637190
You can't fool me Anonymous.

>>7637187
Well I just started two and a half days ago lmao so I'm not very qualified to give advice but you should try slow and detailed studies of the reference. Do a small part over and over and over again until you feel satisfied with the result. Take your time with a drawing and sit down for long sessions to refine what you've done. Learn perspective ig, that's the only fundamental I've learnt (I'm a mathfag though so projection was kind of known to me beforehand)

As for critique, your lines are somewhat straight and messy and overlaid things come off as being 2D i guess. I don't know how to fix that though.

>install clip studio
>"we need to prepare ur software blah blah before you run csp"
>wait
>wait more
>actually i should have pressed the OK button so it could actually start to do something
tfw dumb

>>7637114
i doubt that sheer quantity would somehow magically turn into quality

>>7637199
It's probably experience and reinforcement. Nothing surprising there.

>>7636893

>>7637199
Quantity is not sufficient but necessary. Don't cry about your gestures being shitty when you only drew less than 0.1% of what pros drew throughout their career.

>>7636939
More Gold Ship, this time on my shitty work office pad.

Thanks and I gree I need to redo the pose some on that one.

>>7637206
Holy mog
How the fuck are you so good at drawing skulls

wip i still need to draw the forearm its just going over her chest

tested my visual library w the tummy

>>7637165
don't draw hair strands or locks individually before you block out the shape of the hair as a whole, not until you can consistently do this at least
the locks you drew make the hair look more like dreads because you didn't really observe the flow of the hair and because you aren't tapering the locks off at the edges enough
like on the right side of the hair it's not necessary to piece up the hair into locks because 1. the lighting makes it hard to see and 2. because it's all just one shape. regardless, you seemed to observe the flow of it incorrectly, cause it's flowing diagonally and not straight down. with a bunch of hair like that you would only really need to detail where it separates from other sections of hair or where a highlight or some shit is

>>7637266
*right side of the hair next to her head, sorry

>>7637261
really nice anon, steve huston would be pleased.

>>7637271
THATS SUCH HIGH PRAISE THANK U

>>7637261
neck is dispalced in respect to the shoulder
torso anatomy scuffed and way too thin

>>7637261
i like the simplicity

>>7637140
ofcourse im a girl, hidden in the body of a worm
>>7636924
mine is one of my longest friends actually

>>7637055
if there is one thing penises taught me its circular perspective XD
>>7637175

>>7637173
That's the most obvious one. Deerfag is a cute twink though, not a moid. There should be a couple more, the mangaka, and the monkeyfag looks sus.

Got back from work guess it’s time to draw
>picrel is so real rn

>>7636622
Thank you! And nope I don’t post anywhere, I’d feel too embarrassed about the subject plus idk social media is so depressing, I think I’d fixate on likes/follow count too much

>>7636646
I’d lower stabilisation in the brush first things first desu. And balance straight to curved lines ratio, make strokes feel more intentional, quicker

>>7637055
Great peens

>>7637261
Aaaa the values hnnng tho imo isn’t the belly area kinda overall too small for the head/booba?

>>7637304
there is no way Peril is a woman

>>7637311
There are no women here. And imagine thinking that only women can write text walls, the absolute state of this board.

>>7637321
um yes there are women here.. im having a League date with one tonight..

>>7637304
I know for a fact the mangaka is a girl. She's admitted to it on discord. Monkeyfag admitted it too.

>>7637322
Which one? We should make a list already

Aaaaand the thread is ruined

Thanks retard nodraw simps

>>7637321
There are some artists that I've seen that have been casually addressed as a she here.

>>7637322
men can't be women anon.

C'mon go follow Deer on twitter if you're so obsessed, she has pics there. Or leave her alone, i dont know. Just stop ruining the thread, this is an art board, not /soc/.

Thanks.

>>7637338
Post it then fag

>>7637292
retard

Deer goes by He/Him please respect it

Can I get some help drawing this hand? I can tell it loks malformed but I cant get it right.

>>7637304
my gender is buff thing

>>7637326
yeah
i have pics on my twitter so you can see it there

>>7637349
you posted during parasocial hours sorry bro come back later

>>7637351
here
geh_thuri

>>7635657
>>7635691
>>7635715
>>7636221
>>7636839
>>7637293
your "art" is putrid

>>7637357
just how i like it

>>7637338
people still fixate on her even when she's not posting

>>7637311
What, you don't think the women can't be nasty too? They are the worst.

>>7637364
in my own experience, it won't stop
i had a schizo after me for a month, and he only calmed down after i stopped posting for over a week even then he still mentions me every now and then

>>7637266
>you didn't really observe the flow of hair
Yeah. Kind of silly ig but like I mentioned I tried to them from memory/imagination and failed.

Thanks for the advice though anon, I'll apply them to my next study.

>>7637349
Can you post the ref zoomed in so I can try?

>>7637373
thats creepy

>>7637373
she didn't do anything to deserve it, just got a shit hand. shows that you shouldn't let people be parasocial over you

>>7637373
Tomboysissy...

>>7637376
soz the quality is shit

>>7637355
So all we need now is the pics of the mangaka girl. Deerfag and monkefag have been outed.
Anyone?

>>7637384
NO WE DON'T NEED, RETARD

>>7637384
why do you just keep ruining the thread

People keep asking who here are girls, but who here are boys?

>>7637391
;3

>>7637391
Everyone. Believe it or not, the weird ones with nasaly post-pubecent voices that wear dresses are actually boys

>>7637388
For the greater good

>>7637355
lol
lmao even

>>7637384
Mangaka is very pretty

>>7637404
Oh so you're shit at drawing

>>7637419
Doubt it

>>7637381
Well, here's a /beg/ interpretation of what is should look like.

>>7637421
Yes, ask Deersis she has "my" figgies saved. I'm sure she'll wake up soon

>>7637428
What a lucky guy

>>7637384
Who

>>7637428
pyw

How is it now?

>>7637447
Kino

>>7637435
>>7633122

>>7637373
>tfw art is not distinct enough to get my personal schizos
Why even bother

>>7637450
just attempt learning fine art and you'll attract them like moths to a flame

>>7637308
>I’d lower stabilisation in the brush first things first desu
yeah i probably should... i use the same stabilization for a pencil brush i normally use and once again i'm trying to get the same line feel as the art i posted earlier but it ends up looking off

>>7637447
BIG

>>7637449
i guess you mean me, not sure who you are but if i told you on discord like you said before i'll be able to find out easily. not sure why you're so obsessed with bullying women. i'm just posting my art for critique not looking for anything else

deerfag buck broke the thread

>>7637345
blind retard look again at her waist and shoulder

>>7637447
navel looks low.

>>7637467
uh oh...

can you anons draw for hours uninterruptely, highest i've managed is about 2 hours.

>>7635653
i tasted coin cell and it tastes like purified bitterness

I think it's ripe time for someone to bake a new thread so we can focus on drawing and feedback again.

>>7637497
Nah give it a li'l bit more time. Let it get to 6th page

>>7637389
I must make her pregnant.

stop talking about girls, its time for MEN

>>7637308
nice style, keep posting

>>7637225
the creature

>>7637002
i like that youre consistently drawing keep it up man

>>7637511
Holy based

>>7637473
i find it funny that there's typically mini arguments over my stuff when i post things here

you're right, ill probably have to look up a ref to get the neck + shoulder area right but i wanna get it as close as i can to what im going for first
also changed the shading around the waist a bit, i wanna keep the proportions exaggerated but i did go too far

>>7637308
>>7637293
thank you :3

>>7637447
Looks very cool!
You could push perspective even further - bigger hand and the thing above (don't know what it's called), smaller feet. Also connection between the shoulder and the torso seemed awkward as well as left thumb .

>>7637526
holy shit

>>7637355
muscle mommy

>>7637540
:3 ehehehe

trying out an art style
dont know why she ended up with a DDLC outfit, I never even played the damn game

>>7635557
>>7637526
I tried a more extreme perspective but I was told it looked bad

>>7637481
definitely. he's been real quiet now

>>7637614
You overdid torso perspective in that one. The hand and the wing are much closer to the viewer than body, so the body shouldn't be as distorted. Feet are the furtherest away so they should be smaller.
Extreme perspective is hard and the hardest part is that in real life extreme perspective commonly doesn't even look good. You have to tweak it and search for something that feels both correct and appealing.

I lack the knowledge on the back muscles to do this one properly yet. (I did notice that most of the armor simply follows musculature with no big deviancy). Also i have to look into how to do the "inking" properly.

>>7637467
if you figure out who this is share it openly so we can get rid of this faggot

>>7637521
np :3

im wondering
what drawing program do you all use?

>>7637635
ill try my best

>>7637653
procreate

>>7637653
Pen 'n Paper 2025
It's free and open source

>>7637670
(it's not free)

>>7637672
I mean, yeah... But most people already have it just lying around anyways

dont want to be that one but trad is the most expensive way to draw in many ways

Digital when I'm at home
Trad when I'm not home, simple as

did a few copies today, they mostly fucking suck
this one is probably the worst, I got the proportions all wrong and it looks goofy af

>>7637688
I just use mechanical pencils from a cheap pack from Walmart and a sketchbook from hobby lobby
also an eraser

second one, I fucked up the face and head and a bit of the proportions but it's better than the last I've

and the last one I did today, I think it turned out the best
I really like her expression at the very least

digitrad

>>7637653
Many people here use Krita

>>7637688
it's much cooler, digital is way less interesting and soulful

>>7637628
That's why I hate Discord. It ruins all the fun.

>>7637748
are you scared i'll post who you are?

>>7637653
clip studio paint

yall really done it now and scared Deerbro off of ic
if I ever find you youll be in a world of hurt

>>7637753
@grok is this true?

I've finished the line art but I 'm not getting the coloring right... Should I improve the lines, add more line weight or something?

>>7637753
>yall really done it now and scared Deerbro off of ic
she (female) doesn't deserve us. things are better this way.

>>7637670
>>7637667
>>7637709
>>7637752
interesting, thanks for your answers

>>7637753
i miss him, he was my muse for more monkeys

>>7637758
True, but atleast be respectful and use He or They

>>7637757
>Based totk drawing
add a bit more weight to the outline of her face. Its a bit lacking compared to the rest of her and it will help the silhoutte, rest looks good

>>7637763
Thanks :)

>>7637753
maybe she went outside

I wish womanfag-schizo would post his art instead of shitting up thread with inane babble.

>>7637774
hes been too scared since i know who he is

>>7637774
he's a turbobeg with zero talent, his art looks like a brain damaged gooner drew it

>>7637776
you got any of his stuff saved?

>>7637672
nor open source

>>7637757
something's wrong with the face but i don't know what
maybe another anon can redline

>>7637322
date was fun :3

>>7637778
double truth failure
yikes

>>7637780
With who? Like I said we should make a list

>>7637782
a list for what?

>>7637753
Sorry guys, I was just out having sex with some obese men.

>>7637785
topkek

>>7637774
he always do that when he dislikes someone, he keeps talking about the person until they stop posting

i love fat man cock ,c,

drew an ugly ass face again award

>>7637785
ew

>>7637785
im disappointed you didnt even invite me

>>7637842
looks good

>>7637842
i like it

hows the thumb read? i got the lighting setup for the most part, still fiddling with structure of the environment but im about ready to move past rough

>>7637862
barely can read the left hand's but right hand one is very clear

>>7637870
hmmm that might be because i forgot to add in the shadow values for the hand haha, or is it something else?

>>7637874
i think probably because of that 'line' crossing the thumb
i see no problem otherwise and i don't think it is a problem anyways so all good
also very nice values

>>7637862
The thumb reads like shit, but I don't think that's of any importance to what you're going for with this piece, wich is looking pretty good so far. This is a very ambitious and elaborate pic, It's only logical that it won't read good as a thumbnail. Just Keep going.

:|

>>7637850
>>7637861
CrabGODS

>>7637897
>>7637911
Okay well thank you guys I really appreciate it

it's almost like i can still hear her....

how long should you do a study for? i'm very /beg/ but this took like an hour and a half.

would it be better to do 3 quick ones that are pretty shitty compared to 1 somewhat shitty one?

>>7637938
meds now.

>>7637957
unless you're primarily working on patience (and perhaps other things secondarily) in a study, don't worry about time but what skill you're trying to build. if you're trying to work on accurately constructing a portrait, say, it may take you three hours depending on your skills (and the scale of the drawing), while for another an hour and a half. as long as you're pushing yourself and trying to learn in that/those area(s), that's all that matters. you can work on shortening your drawing time later.

in short, "long" is relative. but the benefit of doing a long study relative to what you normally draw is that it forced you to get outside your comfort zone. obviously you can just scribble in that additional time, but assuming you're actually trying, and paying attention, there are things to be learned. how much you should do it in comparison to "shorter" studies/drawings is hard to say, but it should probably be something consistent in your study routine.

>>7637757
Too lazy to redline/draw over but I liquefied what I thought didn’t look exactly right

>>7637969
Thanks for the answer. The practice for this was accuracy training since I was told that's the best foundational skill to build.

I just got a tablet and this shit feels like cheating. Being able to draw a line and then drag it over reference to see if it lines up and nice and quick feedback. I just hope I'm not abusing that.

>>7637973
i think it was meant to have more perspective

>>7637975
You can use the software as it's intended and free transform, liquify, nudge, redraw, etc to your heart's content to save time, it's really up to you. But if you're primarily concerned about accuracy and the temptation of your software's features is too great you should do some or all of your studies in trad tbqh.

Training accuracy is a huge slog and will be painful to start, but when you become more accurate you also become faster which will aide you in the long run.

>>7637973
Thanks :)

>>7637975
>I was told that's the best foundational skill to build.
that's probably true. I would be more specific and describe it as accurately *seeing* the relationships between the different parts of a subject (e.g. what the vertical value of one point is relative to another, what the horizontal point is relative to another, the angle of this line vs that line, etc.) with that and being able to construct a subject from primary forms (spheres, cubes, cones, cylinders) you're well on your way.
>Being able to draw a line and then drag it over reference to see if it lines up and nice and quick feedback. I just hope I'm not abusing that.
depends on what your goal is, but a convenient way to check your work isn't "cheating." if you want to be more cautious about abusing it, I would say try to accurately construct your reference to completion (or what that means to you for the particular study) and *then* check; as opposed to drawing a few lines, putting your drawing over the reference, then drawing a few more, etc. so as long as you have some restraint and can wait till the whole thing's done, I don't see the problem.

i think im gonna stop using gradient brushes

Sometimes I think I don't do enough pixel art, I should work on that

>>7638011
awesome stuff. any more deltarune?

>>7638017
there's this thing I did fucking around with watercolors last month and some others I've already posted here recently

Word on the street is that permabegschizo is the woman raper of /ic/...

>>7637995
>being able to construct a subject from primary forms

I'm doing the Vilppu Drawing Manual on the side too. It's really helpful to see how shapes breakdown figures. I drew a couple of babies and fat ladies today.

>>7637653
photoshop cs6

>>7637907
Great stuff, you can feel the movement

Ain't feeling it nya

>>7638026
you're amazing anon
>>7638028
permabegschizo and deer are friends, so no

kinda like it now

>>7638028
permabegschizo only bullies himself

>>7638075
Epic

>>7638030
nice. I've never gone through his drawing manual myself, but I've heard it's good. best of luck in your endeavors anon.

>>7638075
Slightly less wippy wip

>>7638028
Why would a repressed homosexual rape a woman?
>>7638033
Nobody mentioned deersis

why is permabegschizo a repressed homosexual

deer's clitoris

>>7638026
looks interesting
>>7638100
because he doesnt even lift

>>7638087
Colour

doodle

I think I might filter /(deer|monkey)\s?(fag/sis/bro)/ with no attachments as nobody including themselves seems to use these terms in any relevant way

/(deer|monkey)\s?(fag/sis/bro)/i;boards:4:ic;reason:beg-int drama;file:only;stub:no

>>7638131
/(deer|monkey)\s?(fag/sis/bro)/i;boards:4:ic;reason:beg-int drama;file:no;stub:no

my bad

>>7638134
/(deer|monkey)(\s|-)*(fag|sis|bro)/i;boards:4:ic;reason:beg-int drama;file:no

mb^2

>>7638139
yeah this worked

>>7638134
>Filtering "fag" in 4chan
Bruh

I dont know what I doing but Im gonna finish anyway

>>7638131
lovely

>>7638133
everyone should do this and stop giving the incel schizo attention

Finally trying some human gestures. I was too hesitant with my lines, maybe because the subject is less familiar to me. When I drew the waist down on the second lady I was a lot looser for whatever reason

peaches peaches peaches peaches peaches

>>7638166
very nice

>>7638150
I'm here for the schizo fun.

>>7638170
congratulations, you're ruining the thread then

>>7638180
Schizos are the bread and butter of this board. There's no point in being here without the bizarre freaks. The world needs to laugh.

>>7638166
>>7638170
>4 minutes and 23 seconds apart

Not sure if these are comprehensible lol

I tried to draw a human in 3p perspective from the back (because I have not studied anyone from the back) entirely from imagination.

Pls critik.Thx.

>>7638037
It looked good to me from the start. How do you eyeball perspective btw anon?

>>7637778
It is open source though. All the patents behind almost all kinds of pen and paper have expired and are now public domain.

And it's free as in freedom, not free as in free beer

>>7638206
I'm not sure that I placed and drew the hand correctly though.

Nor have I studied legs.

>>7638197
>Torso too short
looks fine to me

>>7637511
>keep it up man
Thanks anon

*sobs*

>>7638212
Permabegschizo......

why is permabegschizo called that way

>>7638218
Because of his unhinged self-deprecating epic rants.

>>7638218
Complete and total lack of talent.

>>7638191
huh?
>>7638206
even if you know perspective perfectly you still won't be able to draw a human body in perspective, you need to know anatomy too
But to answer your question more directly there's a few mental shortucts, generally the more things move away from the center of the page the more they will turn away, perspective doesnt actually make things turn but it looks so much like turning you might as well just do that
Also a little goes a long way with perspective, i think most drawings are pretty much orthographic projection anyway. Generally proper perspective is really limiting so most extreme perspective drawings are smoke and mirrors and whatever "feels right"

time to go wageslave

>>7638218
Because some people believe he must be a elaborate larp because nobody can draw for 12 years and show less progress than week-long beginners.

>>7638254
Has it really been 12 years...

>>7638254
>>7638264
it's was just 5 years if i remember correctly

>just
Still suicide inducing.

studying gesture from the king. I haven't watched tangled is it good? I tend to avoid 3d movies, specially from that time period. I really like the reilly method :)

>>7637447
looks cool, hair still the weakest.


>>7637590
nice, i like the spiral motif

>>7637862
I don't know what the other anon is saying, I think the thumbnail looks really clear, you can see the shape of the pecs very easily, great job, the quad orientation looks ambiguous to me, though.

>>7637957
As long as it takes, or as much as you can invest. It's good that you're keeping track of your time, but just try your best and stay mindful of what you're doing. If you do that, I believe speed and power will come naturally.

>would it be better to do 3 quick ones that are pretty shitty compared to 1 somewhat shitty one?
like most things it depends, quality and volume are both valid strategies to training.

>>7638278
>just 5 years
Still worse than some anons who have been drawing here for less than a year or even a month.
Suicide inducing.

Trying to unlearn bad habits is a pain in the ass. Do it right the first time, kids

The moral of the story is that you should know when to give up.
If it takes you years to be mediocre at something then maybe God is trying to tell you something.

Did permabegschizo deserve it?

>>7638232
>you need to know anatomy too
I had meant to ask, what's a good place to start with anatomy?

>generally the more things move away from the center of the page the more they will turn away
Fair I can see where that comes from but I also have a little bit of math autism, I try to work out the vanishing point for every set of parallel lines in 3d by finding the line parallel to the picture plane that is perpendicular to the set of lines and then finding the vanishing point on the horizon line of the line wrt to that. But I still sort of eyeball the actual lines after finding the VPs.

Admittedly, as a result I'm really struggling to do urban landscape stuff with a lot of perspective just because of how much time it takes to figure out a single line, and my perspective isn't even very good after that.

>>7638312
yes, he didn't draw enough

being obsessed with technical skill doesn't mean anything if your art isn't appealing so most of this board is wasting their time. expressionism will always be more valuable to normal people

>>7638332
No amount of work can overcome a complete and total lack dare I even say negative talent.
Just look at pro-permabegs like Proko. All the fucker can do is regurgitate bullshit from renaissance-era books but he doesnt have a single finished artwork on his name that isnt wishy-washy referengroid shit.
He cant even draw a fucking kangaroo from imagination.
He cant even draw a cartoon of anything.
He is a true permabeg who put in the work and now is just a permabeg who can barely copy shit and sell snake oil courses.

Honestly, just give up if you dont show any improvement in months. Years being permabeg is just criminal.
>>7638345
agree