If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates or howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

>Cool teachers
Glenn Vilppu
Michael Hampton
Steve Huston
Brent Eviston
Marco Bucci
Andrew Loomis
George Bridgman
Hikaru Hayashi

>Cool books
Keys To Drawing
Drawing With the Right Side of the Brain
How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way
The Art and Science of Drawing
Framed Perspective
Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
The Complete Guide to Drawing From Life
Last: >>7638505

Um, gemmy!

>>7642511 (OP)
>first time in the OP
Is this a good thing or a bad thing

>>7642520
Humiliation ritual

need more doodle ideas for this

how can I improve this, I know it's not great but I'm not sure how to fix it really to make it look more grounded

>>7642520
>>7642521
The ritual brought us a new member of the sect.. mmmhhh... Prepare now the unholy buckets for the ritual of the snippity snap... hu-hu-hu...

(ancient drawing) baby wukongs

>>7642511 (OP)
based i made it twice XD

also it seems i missed that post in the right corner
>>7642526
very sexy
>>7642530
i would make the guys torse a bit longer

>>7642511 (OP)
*draws hands and feet* I think im ready for my webcomic

The grind never ends bros

deermans pov of monke

>>7642530
very very cute, I'd play around with her hooves a bit
some noelle
>>7642551
omg monkey is so happy and egil is so embarrassed it's so perfect beautiful art monke

Oh cool I made it to op pic too yay

>>7642559
hhihih thanksies :3

>>7642576
(i somehow missed that one, ver cool)

ahww he looks cute

I cant even draw my own hand using keys to drawing instructions

>>7642530
Use thicker lines to add weight, pressure or indicate shadow where it applies.

>>7642585
why bother drawing then?

>>7642585
It literally says right in the book that your first hand drawing won't look anything like a hand

>>7642591
This is not my first one btw ive drawn like 100

How is it
Any tips on painting

bros

>>7642593
face rendering is very good, hair not so much, it looks like u put half as much effort into it as the face.

>>7642593
keep going
learn how the neck and shoulders work

yippee

thread challenge

The garter lamias in my backyard are getting chubby… They really don’t like it when you tell them, though. This one almost bit me.

(This was fun, How did I do? Ignore the prebeg face)

7 years later, still dogshit.
>pyw
No.

how are you supposed to improve past certain points?

>>7642626
cant be worse than permabegschizo.

>>7642631
But Doctor...

>>7642585
>>7642592
Hands are one of the hardest things to draw, even with an exact reference it's maddening. 100 is honestly not that many. Give yourself 2-3 minutes max to draw one hand and do multiple every day as a warmup. You just gotta grind out a ton of them (while also doing slow long studies mixed in where you zero in on specific weak points and fix them).

>>7642627
do stuff that you suck at and self critique

>>7642631
I've gotten positive comments on some things I've posted over the years. It could always be worse. I'm just way way way way behind where I should be by now.

>>7642636
pyw. You are far from the worst or the only case of permabeg here.

>>7642627
i love her hips and feet, and her torso
>>7642634
i literally can't draw hands because i hate them so much I find them impossible to study I guess I'll follow this guide
>>7642623
i like the smug doggo

>>7642486
IDK what I want to draw like honestly
I started up my old Pinterest and made a new board for drawing inspo and rn it's mainly like mamoru nagano and moto hagio and studio clamp and yoshitaka amano plus miscellaneous fairytale type stuff makes me want to cry bc it feels like I'll never be a describe as good or able to produce beauty like that

>>7642496
this was the one being replied to
I always liked fairies and pixies and stuff, used to daydream about a fairy king taking me to his land so I didn't have to live in the real world
or being part fey being the reason I'm just different from other people, and having ethereal magic and playing tricks on ppl and stuff

>>7642623
honestly inspiring me to stop ONLY drawing humans, brings joy to see animals being drawn
>>7642627
No idea but peak art. Genuinely unreal

Sketch before shabbos

Is this AI?
https://x.com/Asamiarts/status/1907173013864251650/photo/1

>>7642675
Ixy ahh lora

>>7642678
Man this is fucking depressing.
Just last night I saw a post and was surprised to see an artist I follow doing art of a franchise he had never touched before from a genre I hadnt expected of him.
Then I see his pfp being different and notice that it isnt the artist but a slop account that was replicating his artstyle to a very convincing degree.

>>7638951
Page 5 done!
>>7639169
>tysm peril. honestly the biggest reason I'm still in these threads is you haha, you're such a beacon of positivity and I love reading your work.
Ahh, that means a lot! Thanks fren!
>>7642537
Cute!
>>7642551
Most awaited crossover
>>7642576
Nice I lover his ear!
>>7642593
There's a subtle alignment issue in the mouth, it's a tiny detail but it stands out quite a bit. Also you may try using warmer tones in the shadows of the skin. Like avoid the brownish tones altogether, as in her neck, or lips
>>7642620
Cool composition!
>>7642623
More of these doggies please!
>>7642627
It's gonna be hard to improve beyond such peak state. SAVED!
>>7642651
The wings could be way more bigger, and then it will be perfect

I will keep attempting to paint until I stumble onto competence

>>7642653
I think everybody could benefit in some way by drawing a variety of things outside of their focus

designed a guy, a little more "tumblr sexyman" than what I usually draw but I think I like the idea of the design even if it needs some tweaking

>>7642631
Permabegschizo just needs to learn faces

>>7642737
Fuck no. His bodies are just as bad or even worse.

>>7642737
It's been 12 years.

>>7642738

How can you tell if you're fated to go down the tormenting path of permabegschizo?

>>7642773
The thing that Pawell, sharkfag and permabegschizo have in common is lack of talent.
If in 1 year you havent gotten good then gg no re.

>>7642773
permabegschizo doesn't draw, if you draw, you're better than him


4 hours a day is the minimum

>>7642778
And pawell? He drew more than anyone here.

>>7642778
bruh

>>7642778
Pewdiepie and other anons make it with 1 hour a day at much.
If you dont have the talent to make every second cound or the time to force yourself into being a prokobeg then you are sol.

>>7642778
permabegschizo just hates drawing, if you like drawing you'll improve it's as simple as that

>>7642794
Pawell (pbuh) loved drawing.

>>7642794
What if I love drawing but drawing hates me?

>>7642784
not really

>>7642791
pewdiepie sucks
>other anons make it with 1 hour a day at much.
Name them

>>7642806
Pewdiepie

i love being bad at art!! i love senselessly drawing porn! i love making shitty animations and not caring about their quality because art is my hobby not my burden! yay!!!! i love not giving a shit about talent because i draw for fun !!

>>7642683
i like how quickly our man has gotten attached to her, also enjoying the story narrative based on the pills that it seems like he's someone who's prone to addictive behaviors (and possibly fixations?) considering that's who often uses benzos consistently. I wonder how he's going to emotionally take what's coming, hm..

>>7642799
yeah, I've seen his stuff, he really isn't that bad. Maybe he's a little over reliant on refs but he has a good grasp of fundamentals. What exactly makes his art so bad anyways? I clearly don't see it

>>7642801
drawing doesn't hate you it's just playing hard to get!

>>7642812
see this anon gets it

>>7642791
The only one who "made it" was drawing for 12 hours daily

>>7642818
>hard work is everything
Hard work without talent will make you a Prokobeg.

>>7642817
art is the most fun when u don't care about improving n you just have fun with it actually we should all learn to just enjoy being bad
this silly thing is awful but I felt happier and prouder drawing it than I have drawn anything in months and I think that proves that art is the best when it is fun

>>7642818
>The only one who "made it" was drawing for 12 hours daily
lmao no. You can find anons from all over the board who made it while wageslaving or studying other fields.
Talent is exponential.

Being able to accept that my art is (really) bad right now was a big part of actually enjoying drawing. I WILL be improving through studying, but for now I can also just have fun designing a shitty donut steel

>>7642820
proko is rich nigga

>>7642823
they didn't make it, they are just above turbo begs

>>7642848
Is money all that matters to you?

>>7642842
M O G S me

>>7642850
Permabegschizo...

You guys really just need to draw, goddamn

Can I get some feedback? I can't for the life of me figure out her left arm. I try to make it "right" and it just looks weird and I'm bad at designing for appeal on that. Any other feedback would be cool too

>>7642849
Yeah, what's the point of being good if you can't make living of it? Or even end up starving? Proko got rich by teaching art, so he won. He doesn't have appeal but he has the knowledge btw

>>7642856
>You guys really just need to draw
>just draw
Doesnt work for talentlesstrash.

>>7642857
He cant draw without a reference worth shit and has ZERO finished work to his name.
He is a glorified sloptuber.

>>7642860
he popularized loomis tho

Why are my heads so small? They're the first thing I draw too.

love me some honest feedback and critique <3

Proko at least gives you content, respect him
Unlike some other sloptubers like marc brunet and pikat who "teach" you something in 10x speed timelapse just to sell ads and ask you to buy their courses later

>Other people make shitty drawing
Sovl
>I make shitty drawing
Sovlless

>>7642511 (OP)
Just draw for "fun" № 1354
Process: https://youtu.be/r1pkxLiWdR0

>>7642869
Is this an elaborate troll? There's no way someone is doing this for real right?

>>7642862
You draw the body too big
I have the same issue so I usually redraw the head bigger after. It helps to put a line at the top and bottom before you draw the figure, head touches top line feet bottom line. That way you can't go too big

>>7642511 (OP)
Are my hands alright?

>>7642864
one boob is bigger than the other, i know shes slightly turned so some of her side/back is showing on the right, but the lack of harsher shading on that right boob makes it look like its bigger than the left one.

>>7642877
Yes

>>7642869
kek

Selfie time :>

Starting linework and value studies today.

Does this look serviceable?
There are supposed to be two light source here, at around 45 degrees from the subject's back.

>>7642856
I think your hand should not go behind the back like in your sketch. You can try it and it's just an awkward pose, especially to hold your weight on, unless done out of desperation. You get a poor grip and your arms cannot exert force properly to pull you back up. Picrel basically. Start the shoulder in line with the other and then bend it inwards with some stress on her biceps.

The way you do it would be fine if she were hanging by a thread of her life or if it were part of a strong motion arc.

Still a beg understanding poses so pardon me if that looks wrong.

>>7642909
And yeah the hand should be in a forced midpronated position so you don't have to change the grip or the position of the hand itself, that looks good.

i am so bad at coloring

shiggy figgy

>>7642869
based and meditationpilled

>>7642791
>Pewdiepie and other anons make it with 1 hour a day at much.
Keep telling yourself that pewdipie is good at art.

came back from an hiatus and i cant do anything at all. I never consistently learned anything and the few gains i had are surly gone already. I just want to draw cute foxes, is learning every muscle group and bone really necessary? Currently standing at picrel with it being 50% a copy anyways.
I get barely any ideas and when i try one of these tutorials it just doesn't look right still and i stop.

Do i do copies to get into it again and try doing something from imagination or what is the best course of action?

>copy faces from pinterest yesterday
>can feel the flow and drawing goes smoothly
>copy faces today
>everything looks bad and feels frustrating
how do i stop my skill from degrading

thanks to everyone last thread i think the arm is mostly fixed now. i do need to fix the face still it looks poopy.
i blocked out the shadow shapes, from here time to lineart the bg and add hatching. this is taking forever

>>7642917
i dont think youre bad at it, it looks cute! maybe try make the lineart match the colors but darker?
>>7642925
good figgy
>>7642941
coming back from hiatus is always gonna be rough, ive taken years of hiatus and when i came back it felt like i was starting from 0 again. what i did was just copy shit until i was good enough to turn refs into characters i wanted. still not able to draw from imagination so i cant help you on that
as for your question about learning muscle groups, no, theres plenty of artists who do not study anatomy religiously but just look up stuff as they go when they need it. for example if you're mid drawing and unsure how to draw the delts, you can always look it up right there and then. I hate studying, so if you do too, don't force yourself to do it and burn out

Almost done, i think i spend too much time on her haha.

>>7642947
How long did it take?

>>7642784
He drew a few hours per week and kept getting distracted when he drew.

>>7642948
16h or something like that, i lost track.

>>7642951
Thats a lot of time

>>7642947
I think the tail should be visible through the seethrough part of the skirt

>>7642953
Im blind lol, thanks!

>>7642791
>prokobeg
holy kek

>>7642683
I like the amount of character stuff you're doing now. I keep thinking about the girl with shoulder length hair in the 3rd one though. It was only one frame but for me at least she's quietly mogged the heroine.

Value in legs without reference.
Two light sources.
Pls critique

>>7642946
>as for your question about learning muscle groups, no
yeah you just see so many people do the meme that you need to be able to draw like picasso if you want permission to draw chibies or something along those lines. Just what do i study then? The one artist i really like disappeared from the face of the earth and i can't find any vods. I used to be able to make fairly cute copies on pen and paper but drawing from imagination is what i really want.

>don't force yourself to do it and burn out
heh. Finally got meds to help with focus but i either need more/something else or i am just hopeless. Im seeing myself becoming a permabegshizo.


Anyways here is something i just drew. Did not get the expression i wanted (an uneasy one) but this is also the first time i used layers and stuff. Still need to adjust to plastic on glass.

>>7643015
Beg here, but the only thing you really need to know is the thing you want to draw.

You don't need to know detailed realistic human anatomy to draw anime chibis, you just need to know chibi anatomy and stylization tricks to draw chibis.

It's just that often, it's much easier to invent and display new stylized anatomies when you know the full details of human anatomy.

It's like racing game dev. You don't need to know advanced mechanics to make the physics of your game, you only need to know the physics/game logic of the particular stylized genre you want to implement, but if you want to invent new stylizations, you would benefit a lot from understanding mechanics immensely, otherwise you'll end up making a "w/s accelerate/retard and a/d rotate on the y axis" floaty slop.

>>7642709
I think it's cool

'''''reference''''' is under this one

>>7642946
he looks a lot better
>>7642822
its probably why the drawings that i actually have fun with turn out better than some of the ''i Have to make this '' slop i made
i love my badly drawn wukong tits, i wouldnt want to give him an atomically pleasing body for the life of me

>>7642683
man her ass mogs me (i love it XD)
>>7642925
very cool
>>7642815
i can only become so erect

>>7643051

>>7643025
>>7643015
also beg here

a hole a lot of people in the beginning fall in i think, is that they feel like it has to be correct at first try so they slave away hours on one hand and then when it doesnt look like what they have pictured they end up giving up because why cant they do it but He can?
(it was me, i fell into this hole so many times)

i would say still practice fundies as well so you will have an easier time when you want to draw different things,

>>7643075
Do you actually like drawing pokeymans or are you forced into a gimmick?

>>7643091
If I didn't like it, how could I manage to do it for over two years?
But I do admit, I try to combine it with other stuff I also like, like medieval stuff and knights to still get the cloud benefit.

>>7643091
Just looked up the definition of a gimmick and you're probably right. But I still like it

>>7643100
>>7643104
That's nice to hear. It's good that you have found ways to keep things fresh enough for you for that long. It was just a wellness check of sorts to know that you aren't burning out like that other pokemon drawer here

>>7643075
Interesting work, but the shading beneath the butt looks like dirt or like she soiled herself. Add some blues or bounce light from surrounding forms.

>>7642946
Looks great! nice work!

>>7642947
Nyaa
>>7642946
youre putting a lot of effort in and its coming out very nice! and background too.. i kneel
>>7642917
cute sovl
>>7643051
beautiful
>>7643066
very nice love it
>>7642683
Peril do you really not post anywhere besides here? what if i wanted to read your older strips

>>7643115
Draw the face >:(
Looks incredible though nice work

>>7643115
Never ask bro to play rock paper scissors

>>7643115
very smoll feet, give him huge grippers

>>7643066
I like his shirt

>>7643115
sex sex sex

>>7643126
Repost ur dpic it 404'ed before i could see

>>7642511 (OP)
Another frame

ok but what if I want to draw unappealing exaggerated figures in perspectives that don't exist and unappeal max what now

>>7642803
retard https://pawell2418.github.io/

Not falling for the sinking cost fallacy and fixing the headphones. Its too cartoonish anyways, its over.
its supposed to be /bant/-tan btw

>>7643117
fine

>>7643122
enlarged the grippers

>>7643115
i would do him, (great work on the body, )

and thanskiess :DDD

>>7643137
nothing, there is always that one mf that will love it

>>7643134
based and car pilled

>>7643134
blog?

>>7643051
this is rlly lovely monkie
>>7643146
the love of unappealmaxxing is so real
>>7643145
very handsome face I like
>>7643126
elfi boi
>>7643066
i love everything but the arm, needs some definition i think especially around the armpit
>>7642947
i see improvement
>>7642925
coolio

>>7643144
sex

Another batch of shitty heads and figures, nothing improved as usual

Might redraw her left arm

>>7643191
redraw everything

yayyy

>>7643142
That's not that much of drawing for over two years

>>7643210
it is.

>>7643210
>>7643213
I counted them, not sure why. Pawell drew in total between 2025 and 2022, 735 pieces which in total is roughly 366 drawings per year. given that he hasn't drawn this year since january

>>7643222
That is still a fuckton.
If you dont improve drawing that much then it isnt the time but the talent.
>muh draw 25 hours a day
Get fucking real. This is a myth promoved by that chink rendermonkey scammer.

>>7643222
90% of them were done without paying much attention to the subjects. He put lines on the screen and almost never corrected his mistakes or applied his knowledge. That's just putting in hours without putting in actual work which is why he barely improved. He copied illustrations from books and then never did anything with that. It never entered into his brain.

>>7643223
>>7643228
He has drawn way more than me, I'm not ashamed to admit that

Now post permabegschizo's collection of drawings.

>>7643228
This shit is fucking depressing
>Yeah he drew a lot but he drew wrong!
What the fuck do you even do anymore? Some fags just start drawing right from the get go and have a ton of talent to get good quick and then that motherfucker spent years of his life getting worse!
Pawell had to go homeless while brazilCHAD was comm worthy in two months. What the fuck can you even say about that?
I think talentdeniers are just as deranged as flat earthers and antivaxxers at this point considering the evidence is right in front of them and they keep denying it.

>>7643232
Incidentally Godwell is an antivaxxer
He gave a lot of advice but never took any. He adamantly drew book illustrations and stuck to his guns. This is why he didn't improve. Putting in the hours doesn't mean you're getting something out of it.

>>7643235
Then how come some improve in a couple months what others cant do in a lifetime?
>Just draw correct bruh
Sounds like cope by talentfags who deny they got blessed at birth.

pawell is gone dudes....

Pawell took on the sins of all the drawless beglets so that they may make it to int and we took it for granted...

>>7643232
Can't believe Tomboycacaco still burned out. Bro got his new pc and video games too and still wasn't satisfied because boohoo I can't draw my OC and get the same rewards. While pawell is out on them streets starving and seems to genuinely be fighting for his well being. I bet Tomboy has made more money and achieved more fame than every permabeg combined

yayyyyyyy I love tv

>>7643244
Why didn't he save permabegschizo though?

to the trained eye pawell and deerfag's skill levels are no different

>>7643246
Than every permabeg?
Have you seen the list of artists from here? They are really fucking good and have been drawing for years and yet most cant even break 1000 follows or get more than 100 likes on a very intrincate drawing. Shit that tomboyfag gets for fucking granted in a couple months
And the fag still wont shut the fuck up about money and likes as if he hadnt already beat anyone from here in talent and popularity.
>Omg the gardevoir/mewscarada guy must be a hack like me!
No. He draws for the love of it.
As always God gifting his most ingrate sons.

>>7643249
ngl Powell has worked way harder than I ever have I wish I had his work ethic LMAOOO I've never read an art book or anything

>>7643248
Chri- I mean Powell cannot save those who have chosen to walk away from saving grace of Powell's guiding light into intdom

>>7643248
They are two sides of the same coin. Has permabegschizo made any money from his art during all his years? Even pawell has made some illustrations to some kickstarter game

>>7643248
He doesnt need saving.

>>7643256
>muh money
Some of the great artists here dont have comms.

u all dissed this guy when i posted them yesterday and they have significantly more followers than tomboyfag they're at almost 40k so idk

>>7643252
It was bit of an hyperbole to highlight than tomboy gets everything handed to him and still isn't satisfied. I didn't mean it in actual literal sense, but it's rather ironic that pokemon seems to be a recurring theme here to making it big

>>7643260
idk who that is or who you are but the fact you apparently keep shilling them and their followers as if that's some metric that actually matters makes me not like them at all if there ever was a chance (there wasn't).

>>7643238
They have better goals and better methods than a codemonkey with no brain structure for creativity

>>7643259
Vol-commcel or in-commcel. That's the difference

i had a few pieces get pretty popular when I drew fandom stuff but I deleted all my accounts like an autistic retard
>>7643263
followers don't matter to me either but if people are calling this person bad and then basing people's skill on follower count and popularity. I just don't get it

>>7643254
no better example of work smarter not harder
artbooks are pretty good for finding shit to copy tho, sometimes i ignore the text when i don't know how to apply what it's saying yet

>>7643270
anon please give me your blessing to draw self ship art with this semen demon

>>7643260
>>7643267
Someone post that pokemon girl drawing with dogshit anatomy that had so many likes that was circulating in the catalog recently. You know the one with squidward like legs

>>7643267
you have a wide variety of opinions on an anonymous board where trolls also like stirring the pot. You just need to be mindful of the fact that you don't know who you're talking to and that Anonymous isn't some singular entity. If that was the case then yes, there'd be a lot of hypocritical takes, but it's just a matter of different people having different takes

>>7643267
you know what, nevermind keep throwing shade or what have you, of course you don't believe anonymous is some singular entity, you're just throwing that shit out into the void hoping it reaches the right ppl

>>7643142
>link
i am no longer certain about a career in art

>>7643273
I think that I would improve if I wasn't depressed and could focus on anything but my attention span is so shot ever since I became depressed lol I'm just happy to be drawing at all at this point
but I dug up that one drawing set I did on stream I did that really looks like pawells work lmao bc low key it makes me smile because I have pawell nostalgia
maybe if I just take a bunch of Adderall. I can use art books as references maybe

>>7643283
Omg pawell is back. Oh nvm

>>7643285
the legendary pawell aesthetic deerfag sketches r some of my best actually. so much soul

perhaps pawell was trying to tell us something

>>7643287
What did he mean by this

From this

>>7643287
Pawell's blue period

To this. I think he actually made solid progress in 3 years considering the first ones are drawings from reference and this one looks like it's from imagination

>>7643289
How can he not copy from reference. Make it make sense.

>>7643291
i think ppl say pawell is a lot worse than he was because it's a funny meme lol he just had no sense of appeal. he progressed at a very normal rate, fast progress isn't a thing outside of ic. it takes like most people that are just casual hobby artists like 10 years to get to high int or w/e

>>7643293
Well, often times when an artist is starting out they study by just copying, but when they take the plunge into using their own visual library and fundies, their art quality drops and then climbs back up as they start to learn how to create with little to no reference so that it seems like they've made little progress. The reality being they've actually improved a lot, but if you only look at end result it's almost invisible

>>7643297
yeah I just worry it got to them sometimes

mayb I should double down on the digital painting thing its rlly fun

>>7643299
But this doesn't answer how can he not copy directly from reference. No visual library, no gimmicks, just 1:1 recreation. How come that top left one barely even resembles the reference. I've seen literal prebegs do thread challenges with more accuracy than that. Wtf

>>7643297
nah he is pretty bad for how long he's been drawing, but i suppose he's not bad for how incorrectly he learns
in all of his studies you can see he never learned observation and is trying to work too far ahead

>>7643303
oh kek I see what you mean now. Uh, I don't know man haha. Every baby falls when trying to walk or something

>>7643304
idk at least he tries unlike me lol
credit where credit is due trying says a lot about somebody
i can't remember the last time I tried since I drew this lol

Hey, check this out! I’m working on a femboy-style character — this is my process so far. Would love any tips or advice if you’ve got some

>>7643303
at least uh....

>>7643142
It's so sad seeing all of that effort go to waste.

>>7643304
>>7643303
Drawing from reference is not his goal. He wants to be able to draw humans entirely from imagination.

>>7643312
But he still tried copying all those books. Yet he still refused to learn how to copy. Genuinely baffling

>>7643310
Just draw bros...I'm...I'm fading

>>7643293
the thing is that he was quite good at copying from references, but then he regressed at some point

Finished the value study.

And yes the line work on the sword is extremely wonky because my pen had began to run out of ink and I had to chickenscratch that shit to do it.

>2 years of drawing
>for this
ACK-worthy tbqh

>>7643321
just looks like a lack of sense of appeal issue

>>7643315
Because he didn't care about the result on the canvas. He cares about the figures in his brain.

>>7643317
that isn't good though, look at how misaligned the eyes are on both bargue plates

>>7643321
No A.I used. Gee I couldn't have been able to tell

>>7643262
Hyperbole? It is word by word what he himself has stated.
>>7643303
>>7643304
>>7643305
>>7643317
And niggas will still deny that talent exists.
>But how cant he do what I and other talented artists does.
>Just trace bro
Lmao. Some people are just blind like that. Talentless permabegs.

>>7643330
Talent doesn't exist. But retardation exists.

>>7643319
Study from one of the modern masters:
https://pawell2418.github.io/

do you guys like my zero appeal daughterwife I just made up . zero appeal female. i love retarded women

>>7643338
pawellian

>>7643341
that was the goal

>>7643330
Who is denying talent exists? lmfao. Talent does exist little pussy. What? Are you going to let that stop you from pursuing something you enjoy? Because someone can do it easier than you can? Cry me a river little bitch boy. I respect the fuck out of pawell. Why? Because they continued pushing through the wall of inertia that stops so many that point to lack of talent as a reason to not even try. Pawell is more of an artist than pussy nodraw crabs on ic that can only cry about talent and asian jeans. Talent does exist, but why should that determine your destiny? Waa waa life isn't fair. Then when you make it through hardwork and dedication some nodraw faggot points yout hard won skill and says waa waaa life isn't fair talent exists. Fuck you, change your mentality bitch boy

>>7643333
>Talent doesnt exist
>But negative talent does
>>7643344
FACTS

>>7643346
Pawell is UNVAXXED

>want to draw
>no idea what to
>copying is not fun
>study is boring
>imagination doesn't work
>its most fun drawing circles and watching the line catch up.

Is this just burnout or am i not having fun?

>>7643350
Digitialtard detected. Of course you hate drawing.

>>7643202
Crab

>>7643352
same on paper too just instead of drawing circles its making gradients.

>>7643302
please do Deerbro i really loved these

>>7643353
low cognitive resolution

>>7643350
you might not like drawing

>>7643360
I dont like drawing ugly and bad shit.

>>7643363
but you have to to get to the good shit

>>7643109
hope it looks better now

>>7643360
i do i think. As a kid and as a teen too. Just that i see everything so critically now and i literately cannot visualize things anymore.

Im not >/>7643363 btw

>>7643365
Have you considered more promiment hipbone flaring?
Is that "skirt" part of her or something you can portray more freely as cloth?

>>7643365
how did you draw the windows

>>7643357
oh to have the motivation I had back when I just painted and barely sketched....
cute sheep

>>7643367
further proof how /ic/ destroys motivated artists

>>7643374
yeah this place is a toxic cesspit ever since i started being critical of my art and tried to learn sketching instead of just painting its been downhill since

>putting in sakura tree just so i can say im sumi-e maxxing
>>7643371
wasnt this like
3 months ago?
that house looks really nice tho

>>7643205
these go hard
especiallyt bc of the ink
>>7643155
i know right?, why go for beautifull tits when you can have empty milk bags??
or sad jiggly asses

>this is rlly lovely monkie
hhiihih thanksies, im trying to challenge myself by not doing a sketch before hand but free winging it with the ink brushes, and well, trying to make it as much as the original intended,
so unfortunately not a whole lot of imagination yet in that department but i will get there

>>7643302
this one rlly goes hard
you should
>>7643307
i remember this one
>>7643357
so smol

>>7643374
it motivated me desu

>>7643376
they're from like february-march I think
i also like empty milk bags and sag desu
thanks idk I love to paint but hate the actual manual action of detailed sketching I just want to skip the sketching phase altogether lmao it does nothing for me
tysm monk

>>7643370
used picrel as reference for the windows.
Basicly just putting a bunch of colours from the environment on it randomly, because the surface on these windows would be very uneven and catch light from different directions.

Not sure what you mean by hipbone flaring.

Just my headcanon, but the dress is part of her.

>>7643382
lower part of the comment is for >>7643369

>>7643382
Nta, but I'm currently playing kcd2. The loading screen art is very nice to look at. Good refs

>>7643390
yeah, used some loading screens from that game as reference multiple times already. They're really pretty

Is it schizo/cringe to be hesitant about sharing your art online until you're super good because you think you found a unique style and you're scared that if you posted a shitty version of it some bigger artist could just swoop in and do it way better than you and when you finally got good at it people would just say you copied the other dude and it wouldnt make as much of a splash

>>7643365
Much better anon, this piece has lots of appeal.

i wish I fell in love with tenna earlier because he's made box rotations so much easier god i need to draw him having sex with me

>>7643274
idk what exactly that means

>>7643422
can i draw her sitting on my ocs face

>>7643422
he wants to draw himself fucking your character

>>7643423
sure

>>7643338
fire

if it were me i wouldnt haved asked for consent

>>7643321
Why bully Pawell? He made the thread more fun and actually drew

did some more drawing
missed my antidepressant last night and the withdrawals start hitting the next day so I've been feeling down
used some references for poses a little bit and some aspects of the clothes but tried to change things up

>>7643374
it began way before that. Somewhere in my late teens it just went *pooffff* and it was all gone.
Now i don't "doodle", i do "art" instead.

Random acrylic stuff, just stream of consciousness painting without any guideplanning

>>7643436

>>7643437

did this following a little closer to the reference
got tired of shading lol

>>7643431
his shit mogs mine too be honestly

>>7643436
pretty

>>7643428
I'm trying to be a better person
>>7643425
yayy
>>7643426
thx her name is pawella i pay tribute to a lost god in moe

and last drawing for now
pretty much petered out near the hand

more sillies

yayyy women

drawing would be fun if i didn't have to deal with social media

>>7643456
what do you mean?

>>7643458
i have to sell my product

>>7643460
if you want to make money out of it sure but what about drawing for fun?

>>7643456
but that's also the reason you're drawing

>>7643458
need the money more than i need fun sadly

>>7643471
Are you forced to draw porn commissions because of that?

>>7643480
yes

How the fuck do you deal with proportions while doing gesture?

>>7643481
Sorry to hear that mate.
It will get better, probably, one day

>>7643483
probably...

>>7643490
>>7643481
>>7643471
>>7643456
>omg people pay for my art I need to kms
Fucking ingrate

meep

give me the secret to drawin da booba please

>>7643509
Boing

>>7643509
Nobody here can draw good sizeable booba worth shit.

>>7643503
is not that great as you think

>>7643509
and heres a dream doodle as an offering
>>7643515
>>7643514
no...

woops

>>7642864
You just gave her too much of a left side. Got to pull it back towards her face.

>>7643519
i love those eyes

>>7643524
i love that tenna

>>7643531
thank you im glad he's my love

>>7642864
that neck is kinda wide, usually anime grills have pencil necks, but a wide neck can work but some other changes have to be made like a longer neck. also the ears are too high or small or both, the collarbone is way too straight wtf is with that

ie
drawing only a wider neck makes the whole drawing off so unless you know how to make it work it looks off

was looking at my grandfather's old sketches and noticed he also suffered from short repetitive lines rather than long seamless ones. interesting, i wonder if there's any correlation

>>7643365
finished, I'd say

>>7643545
Did she piss herself?

>>7643547
If you have a better idea on how to draw the shadow down there feel free to paint over it

>>7643413
thanks

crabGODS how many people did we make stop drawing today

>>7643559
credit where credit is due, we haven't made her quit

>>7643516
Everyone here has to make a living somehow.
You bitching and crying about how good you are that people are willing to give you dollars in exchange for your work is just insufferable.
All you do is brag here.

>>7643576
How do you feel about the lineart

i will never quit, for as long as I will live I will make others suffer with my art .... the thrill is just too much .....

>>7643568
everyone complains about something here all the time

>>7643584
draw something other than schizoid scribbles, youve spammed this shit so much we've seen it all by now

>>7643589
based

>>7643589
i get crabbed so continuously i just don't care anymore lmao

I got bored with a figure and decided to doodle a deltarune shitpost about it instead lol

>>7643597
holy kino lmfao

1.5 hours sketch. Is there even one among this worth widdling into a prototype.

I find all i do is sketch and never bother refining any of my drawing due to lack of will. none of these look like they'll produce a worthwhile finished image after all the effort is put in.

how did int chad start. should i do a face color focus study? also i draw is women, I can't stop myself.

also should i get a Artist Pro 16 (Gen 2) or a Kamvas 16 (Gen 3)?
I read that the xp-pen has 50-60% better color gamut but the Kamvas is newer

>>7643576
>>7643579
NIGGAAAAA I NEED YOUR BLOG NOOOWWWW

he is bread sexual
i cant believe i was stuck on the mouth of all things

>>7643378
fuck yeah i was right,
it was when i just started lurking here

im mixed, i feel like sometimes it helps for me but other times the sketch looks far better than whatever i shat out after

and np :3

>>7643438
draw some spooky eyes and you got hell itself
>>7643508
succelent
>>7643466
nice haaand
>>7643519
is that dream???
>>7643597
HAHHAAHHA

>>7643605
I posted it last thread
https://x.com/goobdo

>>7643609
oh i must've missed it, thanks

>>7643602
a sketch should contain information to inform the rest of the painting, you barely have some random mannequins there
try doing some actual sketches instead (draw everything you need: the face, clothes, hands, feet, think about composition and background, etc)

>>7643613
lol, imagine getting crabbed by deersis
lmao even

>>7643597
Permabegschizo fanart

>>7643621
wat i didn't post that that's just a person using lowercase letters

>>7643624
i used the wrong pronoun on purpose, by the way

>>7643629
bruh like idrc what pronoun you use it's not a gotcha I know what my chromosomes are

>>7643630
one missing you mean?

>>7643637
wow anon you should do stand up.......

dont bully the Deer

>>7643668

>>7643668
bullying the deer until it actually does a full piece instead of 5000 doodles

>>7643674
b-b-b-based

>>7643686
it's for their own good

>>7643674
Be patient...

>>7643674
NO! Giving deersis powerful womb orgasms as a reward for drawing a full piece! I love her so much.

>>7643697
i don't think sex would make them finish a full piece, it's been six months

>>7643700
doubt shes left the house in those 6 months, the only man shes seen is her stepdad but honestly he couldve dicked her down

>>7642815
Getting too ahead of ourselves now Deerbro, he he he, maybe he won't need no pills anymore after destroying his sacred cow, dismantling his object of desire will build a new trauma on top an old one, MK-ultra style. But is not that easy, love+desire is the only thing in this world that can't be killed and it gets reborn a new, every time, again and again, no matter how many wars and horrible shit comes onto this suffering humanity.
>>7642981
Yeah, I made a chart for you, the students will have a role, adding thoughts to the "story" during "class"... They don't need to have distinctive names or personalities tho, saving one student who gets in love with the "subject" more ahead.
>>7643051
>man her ass mogs me (i love it XD)
Oh, there's going to be a lot more of her ass in class, for sure.
>>7643115
>Peril do you really not post anywhere besides here? what if i wanted to read your older strips
Thank you! It's the truth I only post in this thread at the moment. I really don't feel the need to have any other "avenue", I know it sounds selfish and maybe even "disrespectful" but, I can't be bothered. The most I can do is to make a dump thread on /i/, I'll do it eventually, meanwhile I'm having so much fun doing this lol..
That pic of yours, is freaking GLORIOUS, I'm saving it as ref.

>>7642856
SUPER NICE!
>>7643066
I love everything about this
>>7643075
You're an inspiration, that head+neck+shoulders and back combo is so nice to look at, real art.
>>7643455
I would watch scribbles like these all day
>>7643579
>>7643576
Really cool appeal-mecha design, saved.

this is brutal it's been so long I don't even remember how to start a real drawing anymore
>>7643703
its been 3 months since i left the house not 6 and I didn't have sex with my father

>>7643587
There is a difference about complaining like shit about "I work a dead end job that is bad for my health" and "omg I HAET getting paid for drawing and having no end to the comms. I HAET being able to work from home at my pace and getting paid in a stronger currency so much"
Fucking braggart

>>7643706
awesome character chart peril, im excited to see her dismantled and what'll happen next. very cool project... uhuhuhu
also thank you, i love drawin scribbly girls

>>7643706
those two look really familiar

>>7643344
Pawell achieved nothing, permabegshizo achieved nothing, I achieved nothing, what was the point of us working and trying? None of us received recognition from anons and normies on social networks, no money, what was the point of working?

>>7643716
So cut your losses and give up
>muh sunk cost

Working on turning the michael hampton figure drawing book into anki cards.
Holy moly this is taking longer than expected...

>>7643718
Fucking hell why you fucking spaz.

>>7643719
Blazing through a book means you dont fully internalize it.

>>7643716
You might hate to hear this, but Pawell achieved far more than someone like you and that was while functioning as the butt of all beg/int thread jokes

>>7643721
Rote memorization doesnt fucking work outside of cramming as much as humanly possible minutes or hours before a med exam.

>>7643717
Then what is the point of the comments that I checked? Do you admit that talent is real and there is no need to work, since it will not give anything?
>>7643722
The only thing he was praised for was his dark dungeon landscapes, something like that. I don't deny that he can be worse, no one even answers for my drawings, because it's just nonsense. He drew the same crooked and ugly figures as me, only I haven't moved on to anatomy yet, since I can't draw normally even with simple forms.

>>7643718
please share when you're done I can share my anki decks if you want none are original tho just ones i found!!

How do I stop being a permabeg?

>>7643739
Find a talentfag and eat their heart

>>7643749
i have a /beg/ crawling over my supple /int/ body trying to suck the gains out of me...

>>7643718
unless the cards are subject + drawing (drawn by you) this a waste of time because you don't draw with words

>>7643739
6 hours a day

>>7643358
>>7643353
>low cognitive derpaherpa
shut the fuck up unhelpful weeb faggot
gun looks fine, but the face is fucked up. her pupils are too small and she looks freaky
fix her neck and shade
also her left hip looks strange

''what do you think crawled up his ass this time?''

''his wörm''
>>7643750
yeah its me
gimme your gains slorp

>>7643706
>Oh, there's going to be a lot more of her ass in class, for sure.

where, oh where can i join for class?

>>7643524
is that a spinny thing on his noise

>>7643739
sacrifice your soul to satan, and start looking at books that can help you with fundies

currently trying not to over polish my turds and get some more reps in

retard question, but where are her hips?
tried to red line it a bit but not sure where the hips are at all, the clothes are making it hard to read

>>7643777
they're rotated upwards at 45 degrees but when there's so much clothing you're honestly just better off drawing the clothing. you can try to CONSTROOOOOOCT around it but it's just a waste of time because you're gonna layer on a thick dress already

>>7643751
The setup is
>Questions and related drawing challenges on front
>Answers and source page image on the back

>>7643777
NICE TRIPS!!!
>>7643711
Thank you! Dismantling will go both ways tho.. I should stop fooling around and do the next page, lel
>>7643712
BASED SMULLDER ENJOYER... I didn't realized of that, just a cool coincidence, lol
>>7643771
You're already attending to it, everyone is...

I always post on the dying thread

review after coming back from a break

>>7643805
best itt by far

total nodraw here. What books or other resources would you recommend for someone who just wants to start making cute but relatively simple drawings of video game characters?
>read the op
I did, just want a suggestion on which book would be the best for me, or if there's another one out there that would work.

>>7643812
I think that topic is too niche to warrant a book or tutorial being made on it, but it's not a bad goal to have. I think at that point you'd have to study another art style to achieve what you want specifically

>>7643822
fair. you know any books that would teach a style or techniques somewhat close enough that it would transfer?

>>7643780
Share some because it looks so fucking retarded that only huge delusional permabegs could come up with it or maybe some super talented fuck who can make any retarded learning method work.

Quickly scribbling like a retard to see if something interesting happens (nothing good happened)

Did a still life while training my value skills, how did i do?

>>7643812
Vilppu's old vhs video course
then copy/study tons of good artists

More fast sketching

will it count as a full piece if its just forearm sized spamton as a hollow puppet being filled with cock and I color it
>>7643771
i love the fluffy so much
it's a flower but I keep drawing it like a fidget spinner
>>7643791
very exciting very exciting
>>7643839
looking good cats
>>7643862
i love it

>>7643895
its his stimming toy
and same, i will actually keep him around
''the fluffy'' is perfect name

>>7643791
eheheeh
>>7643839
cute kitties

>>7643899
i love the fluffy i need to draw more of the fluffy it sso cute in the porn pic where its getting fucked.. i love it

>>7643857
archive.org/details/VilppuLanguageOfDrawing
is this the one?

>>7643905
It is the one that originated picrel
I found it in the video course thread like 5 years ago
Ask there about it, maybe it's in the torrent link there too

Way too high now

Tired of digital. I need to work on drawing rocks. I like how toriyama draws them.

>>7642856
As it is now, it looks like she’s T posing. Her right side already has a complex silhouette, so maybe you can soften the left side, instead of grabbing the finger, have her adjust her glasses or hold the cigarette. Looks cool.

>>7642864
Yeah, the neck is thick and her shoulders are stiff. Raise her right shoulder, it's just like the hips, the one bearing the weight is usually placed higher.

>>7643602
>Is there even one among this worth widdling into a prototype.
no.
About the tablet, i don't know I just use wacum products, but 16 is a great size!

>>7643862
really good, its inviting

>>7643854
more yellow on the green stem and cyan on the pumpkin highlight. needs more hard edges and the shadows need a darker value not much but it looks muted.

>>7643812
>cute but relatively simple drawings
define cute and simple, are you talking sprites, cihbis , something else? post an image of your goal.

>>7643780
Sounds like you're using the wrong tool for the job... and using it the wrong way, too.

tried drawing and doing some shading
it's so fucking hard

>>7643946
and another one
needed to destress

>>7643948
omg is that you in the corner Paigey

>>7643954
yeah lol
had to comment on the feet

>>7643940
>define cute and simple, are you talking sprites, cihbis , something else? post an image of your goal.
i would kill to be able to draw half as good as picrel

>>7643975
why gif if not move

i always have trouble connected the head/neck to the shoulders and the shoulders to the arms

man i really prefer csp but it's so much easier to get less schizo lines in procreate, sucks

pt1 of 2?
anyone else absolute /beg/ here doing igor?

>>7643994
because its like a 25 year old picture

yo

trying to figure out an ink pen i like in csp to finish a drawing with

>>7644042
*not in csp in procreate

>>7644042
>>7644043
CSP is DOGSHIT in ipad (also kinda in windows)
Literally the only fucking reason to have an ipad is to use procrate on it

>>7644046
ugh yeah I have this issue with closing my lines on clip studio paint that's really bad but I do way better in procreate it's fucked but I really like some clip studio brushes

>>7643975
Cute. I don't think Vilppu is the right place to start, it's a great book, but it's complex.
I suggest starting with Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain. It teaches you important draftsmanship concepts and has solid exercises. When you reach the chapter Crossing Over: Experiencing the Shift from Left to Right and draw Igor, apply the same approach to the drawing you just posted.

These two videos help you loosen up your arm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TqNldrAbIc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKSbhbZ_-VQ

And avoid digital for now. Just use printer paper and whatever you have on hand a pencil, pen, ballpoint, stick, etc.

good luck

>>7644041
cute, I like how painterly that brush looks.

>>7644022
nice Igor

>>7644053
>I suggest starting with Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain.
Got it, ill start reading that
>And avoid digital for now.
lol yeah I wasnt gonna put any money into this for the time being. I'll steal some printer paper from work tomorrow
Thanks for the advice guys

I have never done this before

>>7644098
An attempt at an anime version

>>7644119
Your nose is jutting out a little too far. Anime noses are usually a lot further back

>>7644138
Thank you for the feedback. I think I fucked up though

all my faces from memory are ugly as hell

>>7642511 (OP)
I made it on the OP image!

>>7644119
pay attention to your eyeshape, also the eye/ear features are set too far up in the face making the top half of the skull too small. Personally I tend to try not to have the bottom end of the ear above my nose. this is a common mistake because you are confused by the hair covering up the skull and making you reference eye placement wrong. the eyes are connected to the skull, the hair is connected to the skull, the eyes are not connected to the hair placement.

>>7644151
Look at pictures of bald people, draw them, then add hair later on this should help you with your confusion. (I can tell from the way you used the circle)

there are other styles that bend the rules differently but if you were going for a more moe style this might help you

>post in beg
>ignored while w*men get 5 replies on their scribbles
>go on discord server
>those same w*men are getting their clit sucked there
Things really went downhill after the great blackout

>>7643287
>>7643289
>>7643290
>>7643291
>>7643317
>>7643321
I can not believe he's gone. I refuse. First KJG, now this. Please god, stop

>>7644264
It's really sad how this general got hijacked just by three circlejerking HAGS, deerhag, monkeehag and that perilhag

>>7644264
Im getting my cock sucked back too, its a fair transaction

>>7644264
yeah, now half of this general is a circle jerk of 3 porn(of human-animal crossbreds) drawing foids and their orbiters

>>7643706
I just fear that one day you might never post again and then ill never be able to find your work.. also thank you, you saving my stuff makes me really happy

>>7644264
>>7644277
Just critique the art without needless pleasantaries and ":3 ty <3"s and post your work for critique and ignore that stuff?

If it's really just 5 people talking within themselves to create drama, everybody else can simply move on man. Text messages on a screen can't ruin your day if you just ignore them
Also, too late maybe but THREAD CHALLENGE(human pose (female)). Shut up, and draw.

>>7644285
THREAD CHALLENGE(human pose(male))

>>7644285
>Just critique the art without needless pleasantaries and ":3 ty <3"s and post your work for critique and ignore that stuff?
I do obviously, but my art gets ignored because some hag posts right after I do with 5 minute scribbles or a monkey sucking his own dick and my shit goes ignored. If you dont circlejerk with these w*men you get no replies because all their orbiters ignore you as well

>>7644302
looks good but her torso seems a bit long

She is right to feel this way. After all i ignored all rules and she turned out flat as fuck as a result.

>>7644306
you're right, will fix

Trying to do Vilppu spherical forms

>>7643310
al hirschfield?

>>7644285
>>7644307
bring a pump to make her less flat

>>7644302
looks interesting
:3

>>7644278
im sucking mine and yours

some bullshit

>>7642511 (OP)
Idk, im done. Im tired with this shit

>>7644405
Very based and carpilled
You're getting better every time, keep going carchad

>>7644405
This is really cool and all, but can you change all of the panels to a monkey sucking its own dick? Inside of the car of course.

Anon drew this I've been drawing since September, what's the point of trying if everything is pointless without talent? I've been drawing for a year and I can't do anything, no one cares about my publications >>7643162 including me

And these bastards will continue to talk and try to make more shitty figures.

sort of tried copying something but fucked it up bc I'm blind

>>7644405
that's great work anon

>>7644440
>waah I can't draw
>posts really good drawing
m8
that looks amazing for just a year
t. been drawing for like maybe a year (not all at the same intensity but still)

and last drawing for now
was an half hearted copy
I think looking at yaoi/bl is eroding my ability to understand proportions

>>7644443
I don't want to answer such a disgusting faggot, but this shit is garbage and not a drawing, and stop drawing this filth

>>7644448
what was that? draw more filth? you like fucking twinks and want me to draw that?

>>7644459
damn permabegschizo is gay as fuck

>>7644461
Don't disrespect urabe like that. You got your Permabegs mixed up

>>7644440
Why post my drawing?

>>7644448
Stop larping as me. Honestly disgusting

>>7644466
aren't they the same? permabegschizo's the one that types overtly eloquent despite clearly being esl

>>7644443
That's not his drawing it's mine. Sorry paigey you're very good. Ignore the schizo

>>7644440
he draws what he wants, you draw stupid shit hack art "teachers" tell you to draw, that's why you will never be like him, he's a leader you're a follower

im a charismatic sociopath and i ruined the general to make anon suffer in particular

>>7644473
Yes. But paige is not permabegschizo

>>7644264
some of you take 4chan way too seriously, it's just a thread. get critique from people who can actually help you elsewhere and leave if you're that bothered by people circlejerking.
the circlejerk has always existed, what really happened is the people who gave actually valuable assistance (russiafag, for example) left.

>>7644495
In hindsight we really didn't deserve Russiabro aka file.png. Dude was on whole another level and good lad

>>7644495
>nooo you can't complain about something becoming worse even though i agree that it is
kys
when's the last time anyone did a thread challenge even lmao
deerfag and the others killed this general

>>7644495
>get critique from people who can actually help you elsewhere
would love to, where do you suggest these people are?

>>7644502
no, 4chan going down killed this general because it only left the people who use 4chan to socialize rather than as a resource. 4chan going down made people realize they don't need it, so they don't come back. people that are dependent on 4chan for socialization came back. that's the fault of the site going down, and not on who posted here. the circlejerkers have always behaved the same, there's just not enough people who don't circlejerk to compensate.

>>7644504
Here there is chance to get honest critique thanks to certain level of anonymity. Elsewhere everyone cares too much about hurting your feelings etc

>>7644505
Who have we lost? Clownbro and russiabro come to mind for me

>>7644502
i didn't even do anything but reply to people who replied to me jfc stop making me the flagship of this lmfao i can't go a single thread without either getting crabbed for 3 hours or getting sexually harassed anyway, a lot of that isn't even me at this point it's just people fixating on me for whatever reason because i exist and am theoretically female kek
i don't want people to spam about my body, i took all my personal shit down for that reason in hopes people would stop fucking up the thread by spamming about me, it didn't work because i made the mistake in the first place of having my art twitter also be my personal twitter because I'm not an artist and don't have "art accounts"
you can keep blaming me all you want but literally all i did was reply to people who replied to me and get sexually harassed lol

>>7644514
someone should post your pics and a fanfic of how they'd ruin your holes

also i hate to tell you this but peril is a man lmfao people aren't orbiting him because they think he has a vagina

>>7642947
WOULD

>>7644516
that would at least be amusing and i would give them props for creativity if it was le full piece
>>7644503
love your art style so much man

>>7644517
only one person said he was a woman and i dont believe him, has to be a man

>>7644521
its a dude, we asked, it's a dude. no one is orbiting him because they think he's female, they're orbiting him because he's good and his shit is interesting

>>7644405
oхyeнчик

>>7644443
That's not his drawing, he is a no draw schizo, who tries to smear others.

>>7642881
>>7643522
>>7643537
>>7643940
Those are very helpful, I should have paid more attention to the neck and the shoulders. Thanks senpais.

>>7644277
I don't think any of them are female anon. Deer has said they're male repeatedly, the wukong anon acts more like a homo and Peril is so manic and horny he probably pisses pure testosterone.

>>7644533
so only the mangaka is truely female huh.. at least she doesnt circlejerk

>>7644533
deer just has girly hands and legs so people assume it's a woman, it's just a dude who shaves

deer posts art of gross fat guys so poor misguided anons think they have a chance, it's cruel

>>7644536
agree, manly face too

>>7644541
i keep saying im a dude, idk why people don't believe me

Im man too but no one cares

shame that the only foid itt is the wukongposter and shes an ugly fat brown
most unfortunate

>>7644544
post your penis

>>7644548
not the only one, mangaka is cute

>>7644548
we have a few cute trannies

This thread can only be saved by Paige posting his tiny dick and cut thighs again.

if i post my penis will concerns finally be put to rest

>>7644505
>>7644514
words words words and no drawings
dead general that you killed deerfag

New thread. Let's leave this behind

>>7644559
dramatic faggot

>>7644558
yes

>>7644548
why are you so obsessed with the monkey lady

>>7644559
damn if I'm really that bad I'll try only posting more finished shit for a while lol

>>7644548
she's my muscle mommy

>>7644558
if you're deer, yeah unironically it would end that

theres only 3 (probably 2) confirmed women and only one is white and cute

>>7644572
cause shes posting monkey dick in each thread and knowing its some ugly brown cow doesnt make it hard to hate her for it
>>7644577
""muscle""

>>7644583
I'm pretty sure I've seen her post on /fit/ some years back, she definitely has guns. And always pulls a weird face in every photo of herself for some reason.

>>7644582
it's 2, deer has said he's a boy countless times

no surprise that 4chan users are bad at identifying women but you have to be a special level of deranged to think peril is one

>>7644584
'''' And always pulls a weird face in every photo of herself''''yeah thats me allright, i still frequent fit but dont post much

i dont know how to not look like a deer in the headlights

funny that someone still remembers me

>>7644589
theres only one cute one then, i dont like brown

>>7644598
deer isn't white either, he's a jewish estrogenized boy, unironically. with a condition that made him never grow

I feel many people here are women, but nobody in their right mind would say that here.

>>7644600
not talking about deerfaggot but youre right. looks like a jew boy

>>7644469
Because this is proof that work and attempts are pointless, here are my shitty results

PAIGE POST YOUR DICK TO DE-DERAIL THIS THREAD

i need degenerate androgynous jew femboy cock so badly

>>7643854
Good job making different edges for the form and cast shadows, really helps read the picture easier. When it comes to modeling/shading a subject, try not to look at the changes in tone as being separate. It ends up making that subject as if it were built in parts rather than as a whole. For instance the orange pumpkin has been segmented too much even though it blurs into a more flat tone at the stem. For the blue light hitting the shadow, light can only lighten objects. The problem with a strong blue light is that blue is an inherently dark hue, it'll only be a touch lighter than the shadow. It'll look like light due to the sheer saturation difference. Shadows are a lack of light information after all. Also keep reflected light in the shadow family, keep it subtle and restrained.

Most importantly, have fun painting.

>>7644610
go cry about it fag. unlike you shes worked hard for her skill meanwhile you only cry
back to favela you go

>>7644617
suck your own then

>>7644098
Check the length and angle of your features against each other to control the proportions more.

>>7644610
you are comparing yourself to people who have drawn for a decade

>>7644558
Don't bother, you'll just regret it and it won't change anything besides encourage more shitposting.

If it was actually about you being a woman the fujo would be getting more abuse and she doesn't.

>>7644628
they're going to keep harassing him because he's an easy target and he responds, it's as simple as that. he keeps feeding them by replying because he's a retarded attention whore

New thread pls. This one has gone off the rails...

>>7644264
how do you know an artist is female?

Needs some feedback before I clean it up and finish that hand. The right is my reference.

>>7644636
nta but they announce it willingly because they want attention

>>7644601
I think /ic/ has a larger ratio of females than a lot of boards. They try blend in a lot more than effeminate male posters but they do get outted sometimes.

Help cant draw faces am permabeg.

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>>7644651
>>7644651

>>7644642
The head and shoulders are turned way too far, definitely broken. The foreshortening on the arms needs to be more extreme.

>>7644644
This. They say there are no girls on the internet, but that doesn't really apply to art spaces

>>7644657
Can you redline it to me if you can?

>>7644627
I replied to the anon who had been drawing since September

>>7644642
Close your 4K pornhub cuckolding video and focus on the ref properly.

>>7644646
have you tried having fun?

>>7644659
Maybe something more like this? Depends how closely you wanted to follow the reference, I tried to meet it halfway.

>>7644705
This looks good

Botched the line weight on the face massively on this wip study for two subject interaction.

How fix?

Funger style copy. How’d I do ?

https://x.com/VTCric/status/1944591670541959190?t=VyBWBTFENEx7tM5ZP_EE1g&s=19

is copying a reference + drawing from imagination sufficient for learning to draw in this artstyle? im not really interested in irl drawing.

the reference i was trying to copy from in replies.

>>7645977

Rough perspective drawing entirely from imagination(no refs). Ignore the fucked far corner of the bed and pls critique. (Also ignore the weird pattern of the bed, I accidentally extended a couple floor lines into the bed so had to cover that up)

>>7644287

bleh