Post work. Reply to work. Provide helpful criticism and comments to your fellows. Ignore nodraws and trolls.
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>>7646964 (OP)>Provide helpful criticismEdit your post.
I LOVE DRAWING I LOVE TV!!
>>7646972I really like how you always draw such dreamlike intimate scenarios.
>>7646978In fact it has never been more over
>>7646976thanks (: i like my porn to look sort of ethereal if that makes sense, captures things a bit more
Fine. I'll start.
FOR BOYS THAT LIKE GIRLS, DRAW THIS
FOR GIRLS THAT LIKE BOYS, DRAW THIS
>>7646927 #
(Posting here as well
/beg/ and never critiqued before so take it with a grain of salt.
I think the head is a bit too small in general. The extended arm on top right also lacks the "back" of the arm (like in the bottom right) and the right chest muscle doesn't "portrude" from the torso. The right/extended arm's form is a bit unclear to me as well. The ribcage usually counter balances the neck/head and pelvis, but on top right, the head's tilt matches the ribcage's tilt, which makes you lose that "end of ribcage" portrusion on the right side of the torso.
Bottom right drawing i think mostly looks fine, but the spine's bend is a bit ambiguous/deflated. The neck leaning forward is good but past that, the upper back's bend i think is a bit weak and the lower back bend is not really "there". The right side buttock also appears deflated/2 dimensional. You might want to start drawing the sacrum as an "in perspective" triangle wedge to also help you with buttocks orientation from the back.
The left's right/bended upper arm also doesnt make sense to me, but that might just be me. I think it should be bending away to be on the side or even behind the torso, which means it should be covered or partially obscured by the chest muscles and/or the ribcage's side. It has the same thing i mentioned where the head and ribcage tilt is the same.
That's all i can think of, hope it helps.
>>7646924quick request fulfilment (:
>>7647032thank you very much!
>>7647025thank you, I can rest easy now
>>7647040didn't even realize this was like some bizarre edit and not the original but my point still stands, good shit
>>7647040glad you enjoyed, there will be more. you should check out https://x.com/keriage?t=zn_r_ntkETPjlny19Jxzdw&s=09, they're the best out there if you like small spamton stuff! tiny bottom spamton getting molested is their bread and butter
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Finally stopped drawing mannequins and started drawing faces. It the second day of this new routine but I hope to build the muscle memory to start incorporating them into my regular sketch sessions, I even started drawing clothes on my babes.
setteidreams will be a big help for me. specifically the H.o.t.d resources. I love Shลji Satล and Masayoshi Tanaka's drawings a lot.
Tablet: Huion Kamvas 13.
Software: Sai2
slurp slurp
>>7647070looks great!
Is it over?
>>7647070Mogs me to oblivion
>>7647146the cute dark elf you drew looks almost exactly like one of my ocs but with short hair and grey instead of purple. give her long hair and make her purple pls good work
>>7647106I know you're a boob man but i'd like to see some ass stuff from you
>>7646987ok, I will do the pose but make up the character itself
>>7647177>I know you're a boob mani was a bit confused but after checking all my stuff it's so obvious lol. Didn't even know haha.
Does anyone know how to sculpt in Blender?
i have a friend who is into very masculine unusual looking women so I drew him a wife real quick
where did the German skinny girl poster go
>>7647025do you think his tiny dick fits in tv mans pee hole
>>7647146those tits mog me
I saw a oomfie nail doin a realistic face in perspective and I am not feeling too moralized.
>>7647241tf is an oomfie nail? one of your followers what?
>>7647240nice perspective monkey
yeah i think he could sound tennas dick with his dick
right now im imagining him trying rlly hard to fuck tenna
>>7647247thanksies ;3
he is trying, but he is having hard time bc he is as big as a bottle of lube
>>7647241oomfie = twitter mutual.
nail doin = nail down.
I really have to replace my keyboard.
>>7647284warmup from earlier
>>7647285Random acrylic stuff
Sorry if the quality is a bit bad, working on a big canvas so scaled it down somewhat. First time properly attempting a multi character scene what do you guys think?
>>7647320You've gotten better at drawing kneecaps.
>>7647325I've been looking at some tutorials from Tatami
>>7647329I have his art saved too. The guy's a fucking legend with drawing skeletons.
Any tips on improving these hampton beginning heads?
>>7647350yeah, the lines he's drawing actually has a function and the brow ridge isn't so much an "m" shape. The line in the middle is for you to check your symmetry, look at your ears. Try to keep your features in the same perspective with the head as a whole.
He draws fast and a bit sloppy to get his point across quickly and you shouldn't adopt that habit. Extra lines will confuse you, take your time and aim for clarity not beauty or perfection.
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Haven't drawn in a week. Getting back in to it with studies.
>>7644664Fire, as always.
>>7644828>Did I do wellYes. Blog?
>>7644913sovl
Body hair, cut marks or just hatching? Blog?
>>7647223Sovl
>>7647309It's neat. What's there stories?
>>7646964 (OP)Hell yeah i like the energy of this thread, lets go! We all gonna make it!
>>7647395Obese deer man, rape this gook.
>>7647400he wouldn't call her a racial slur
>>7647309Composition's a little dull. Put the viewer closer to the action.
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>>7647438Very very nice. Only criticism is the forearm on her left is tapered too small towards the wrists.
>>7647442fair enough, I will fix it in time for my NSFW doodles account.
>>7647450wtf, it ain't me, fool.
>>7647455Lmao you scared me for a split second.
I luv u NotJona.
How is this painting i did
>>7646987>>7646990I still feel like her head is way too small but I did a layover and it looks good enough to not feel as small as it looks. Maybe I'm just retarded
I posted this in the previous thread, sorry for the repost but I had a question
People often tell me my art looks very 'early 2010s/deviantart.' This is honestly more devastating to me than if they had just told me it looks like shit.
How do I fix this? What about it is putting people off like this?
is copying a reference + drawing from imagination sufficient for learning to draw in this artstyle? im not really interested in irl drawing.
the reference i was trying to copy from in replies.
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Am I even good? It's my third day drawing and I feel like I'm falling behind and won't go nowhere.
>>7647499>It's my third day drawing>Am I even good?no
>I feel like I'm falling behind and won't go nowherenot with that attitude
>>7647502>not with that attitudeBased /ic/
>>7647485Yeah its not great, luckily there's an easy solution.
>Look at your art>Figure out one thing you can spot an error in>Practice it consistently for a week>ImproveIdeally you'll do it for a couple weeks but if you've got adhd a week will still see gains at your level
technically speaking I spent longer on this than I have on most of my recent art because I've just used it to experiment with vector layers
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>>7647507I have ADHD badly and I went from crappy faces to this in a matter of three days,
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>>7647514Holy shit, based
>>7647485I'd wager that they mean something along the lines of.
>Only increasing/decreasing a color's value when shading, the usual criticism is that it makes the colors look muddy, and that one should also shift the hue and other stuff.>Using the line tool instead of freehanding them lines.>Things looking oddly flat, due to the shading but also the line weight and other things like the muzzle sticking out in a weird way.>Drawing furries, a fatal combination when presented with the other mentioned things, posting Jungledyret Hugo will also make people think that you are Danish, you probably WANT to avoid that.I think that's what they mean with the DA thing, i think you should pick a Preston Blair book, it's good for getting the gist of construction and getting some nice forms.
Of couse feel free to ignore me since i'm utter shit and guilty of many of the things mentioned before.
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/beg here, I posted in last thread and I was told not to shadow drawings but I'm confused.
I'm trying to escape from symbolic drawing so how I'm supposed to if not defining features through shadowing?
Any sensei welcome to help out/comment provide a sample
>>7647522symbol drawing is drawing what you think something looks like instead of what it actually looks like, doesn't have anything to do with shading
there's no such thing as trying to escape from symbol drawing, you just do it by using reference
>>7647467looks beautiful
love me sum hors
>>7647485>What about it is putting people off like this?Notice how people are telling you that your art looks like a general period in time. They aren't saying, "Your art looks like Artist X's work," or, "This reminds me of Artist Y." Your artwork lacks personality. It's the generic style of thousands of indistinguishable wannabes.
>How do I fix this?Study. Study cartooning, animation, animal and figure drawing; but also study the art that you like. Really look at it, and ask yourself what it is that you like about the art. Then try to incorporate it into your own work.
scribbles pt 1
>>7647394amazing anatomy as always! and really goo job at blocking muscles into basic shapes, might try out this strategy myself
>>7647499don't listen to crabs just keep drawing and you'll get better eventually, trust me, no one starts out good
>>7647514we've had enough doomer schizo threads how about a hope thread for once
>>7647518cute stuff!
>>7647523Looks like I was being trolled then.
But what was the point of not shading critique?
>>7647529itโs a waste of time if you donโt know how to shade, which will often turn a maybe passable sketch into liquid dogshit
for now figure out how to draw faces from reference, if you do wanna shade then follow the shading from the same references
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>>7647526Brutal but fair. I asked for this. Thanks, anon
>>7647519Actually, a norwegian friend of mine is super into Rita for whatever reason so I drew it for her lol
>>7647438i keep thinking she has a penis
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>>7647469draw more skeletons
>>7647551>>7647556>>7647561F tier redlines, i hope you are trolling
>>7647567My lines are more sexier, look carefully how it flows compare to theirs.
how good can I get at drawing beautiful naked men in a 4 month period
>>7647573depends on your ability to learn but id say at least low to mid beg level
>>7647573a decent level if you focus just on that and spend multiple hours per day on it
>>7646964 (OP)>another OP not using a collage of drawings from the previous threadKYS
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>>7647394always use negative space to your advantage
trying to get into the habit of finishing things rather than stopping at the sketch part.
>>7647580these redlines are so terrible. why do begs feel the need to crit others works when they cant even draw
>>7647574I'd recommend that you start drawing bigger son, getting the contour of the jawline right is a bitch when you're starting out, also it seems like the foreshortening the outermost eye is giving you trouble, i can relate to this hahaha ;-;
Keep grinding son, we're all gonna make it, try to get some nice Loomis mannequin heads goin' and then everything starts getting smoother, i'm sayin' smoother and not smooth since PAIN is the baseline experience for pretty much everyone.
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>>7647598this is a dunning kruger not a schizo
how does one foreshorten eyes on a head? pls help
>>7646964 (OP)https://drawingamerica.com/courses/will-weston-figure-drawing-lecture/
Anybody have this torrented/pirated?
>>7647591maybe I need a larger sketchbook then. that attempt at a study filled an entire page, as did each of the drawings I was posting in /draw/. thanks again to the anon that was trying to point me towards some tutorials on face proportions that were simple enough that even a dummy like me could understand
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>>7647309Think of composition, use your characters to point at each other
the more i draw the more i think
copying dots is not a meme
Good energy thread, keep it up, we all going to make it! I believe in all of you! Those who are skipped, you can reply to this post, I will try to redline, I can't be bothered with the negative females and weak men.
>its the kind of tired that sleep wont fix
>>7647580>>7647610>My lines are more sexier, look carefully how it flows compare to theirs.
whoever posted this eyes, I have stolen it, and repurpose it. thread here
>>7647642
>>7647658that was me, I forgot to draw lashes and spotted some bad lines so I felt embarrassed, kek
nice meme mashup tho
>>7647666>lashes >tranny eyes nowok satan.
>>7647666>>7647672Ignore
>>7647668Finish your drawing and post there okay?
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>>7646987rare good thread challenge
I focused on the head.
I know that Iโve done something wrong never less I am proud of this portrait of Kristin Hayer.
For me itโs the eyes and the line work so if you can give me a hand on this (maybe the hair and shading perhaps).
Also yes the rest is messy because I didnโt know how to draw the detail of clothes.
Ty
>>7647696Sorry I donโt know why was the picreal tilted.
Having trouble figuring out the head placement.
>check last thread
Christ, thanks for reminding me to never post my work in this schizo general
never doing this again, took way too long
>normal tits . parchment>>7647680i like her hair
>>7647482nice titties
>>7647467i love it
>>7647394 cool demon lady
>>7647361cute
>>7647331ahwww
Genuine question do people here UNIRONICALLY learn anything from posters itt making them grow as artists or is it just that you have nowhere else to post and know you will get shitposted on
>>7647729the only time i ever learnt anything from posting here was when i got a redline and saw my mistakes. but that was one time, and ive posted here for months.
at this point its not worth it. ill not post. after the last 3 threads got either derailed by women or niggu its just a cesspit of people shitting on artists better than them
>>7647703/beg/ advice, but to me the object being carried feels like it should fall between the left shoulder and the head. instead of on the back of the neck.
i say near nothing and get no (you)s nor schizos
>>7647735I'm drawing off a reference and he places it on the back of his head. I could just copy the head placement too I guess but that's just symbol drawing.
So yeah, here's the massively fucked but organically constructed result.
I think I fucked up the size of his head as the most glaring error here, but also in general the subject is a little too muscular and wide, the perspective on the torso and legs is also different.
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im starting to.. le get it
>>7647734Sounds about right, especially the woman derailing part
Any place where it's worth to share your work? Discord, Xitter, something else?
>>7647729I dont really have any other places to post. I mostly just draw for myself because i like to draw, sometimes i just want to share my work and this is only community im part of that i can do so. Getting some critic and tips is plus
>>7647753>Any place where it's worth to share your work? Discord, Xitter, something else?id like to know too honestly, im just sharing it on some discord servers and twitter mostly but dont get the same dopamine
>>7647729for me its both
while i did get better
in the weeks that i posted here
but that can be blamed on just drawing more often than i did at first
i also just shitpost here
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>>7647703>>7647747100 boxes before you draw anything else
why is there some anon redlining everything left and right?
>>7647775worst redline ive seen in my life
>>7647532A few drawings from reference plus a random momo Ayase without reference.
Any help or way to go sage anons?
>>7647777nothing wrong with that, it's a critique board after all
the redlines being shit is just a reflection of the overall state of the board
>>7647729over the years I've gotten a couple of useful redlines or paintover that helped a lot. quite a few useful tips too. and good recommendations for specific resources to study. some comments were good for pointing out stuff that hard for me to notice myself.
but how much you learn depends way more on each person and if you can discern good crit from trolling, jokes or meme advice.
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>>7647783i would make the cupids bow smaller so that it looks more balanced
and see if you can make the eyes same size
>>7647785not really, a bad redline could hurt more than it helps since a lot of /beg/s wouldn't be able to see how bad it is
>>7647785>Reddit and Discord are shit>Twitter is only reserved for high tier artists>only space left is contaminated with retarded permeschizos
>>7647791What is cupid bows
>>7647790Don't reply to me faggot
>>7647792still, I'd rather have that than just saying vague advice (which might be wrong too, but is harder to pin down)
if a redline is particularly bad someone can greenline it and so forth
>>7647799Ear is placed too high, eyes is symbol drawing, nose is a jew and crooked, missing cheek bones, jaw line missing, skull collapsed. Draw more.
>>7647792>>7647804>>7647785>>7647794Are you faggots really arguing about whether he should redline or not? Yeah, sure someone green line, I can't wait to learn.
>>7647806Can't you read? I gave you an order nig
how do i stop abusing ctrl z and eraser
>>7647821Do traditional drawing with pencil and paper.
>>7647821Pen and paper, but I know this is too scary for a digitalcuck so feel free to ignore.
got some markers
very scary to use bc I can't erase them
>>7647839did several quick faces just to see how it feels
it's extremely intimidating but I feel like drawing it first with pencil then going over it with market would look like shit
maybe I could draw it first in pencil and then copy it with marker on another page
only one more pic after this sorry for posting so many I just wonder if other marker users are any obvious mistakes other than generally being bad at drawing
>>7647842no I'm sorry I can't
and last one, tried doing some color
they didn't have any skin color markers though, or at least not white ppl skin color
>>7647845Look like donkey
>>7647844>no I'm sorry I can'twhy not :(
>>7647843It can look fine if you sketch very lightly with pencil
But I respect the balls to go in raw with ink
honestly those redlines are good besides the huge ego
learn and move forward not stay
>>7647847Does it? It's supposed to be somewhat hare-like
>>7647861Yeah looks like donkey to me too
>>7647865Coom in white void drawer final boss
>>7647866backgrounds are cool, even a simple motif can make a pretty good difference.
The schizoโs redlines are good, the problem is heโs redlining basic studies with references which is pretty pointless
>>7647890not really, he messed up his box too in this one
>>7647775
>>7647775nigga can't draw boxes and is redlining anyway
>>7647719go back faggot nodraw
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How would you set up a gesture for this? I feel like I'm just guessing at the placement and orientation of things, since it's a static pose. I'm new to gesturing and I feel that staggered standing poses are way easier to get a feel for.
60 sec gesture for reference
>>7647899i usually annotate negative space, torso box and silouette and notable triangles i see
>>7647899My general process as a beg is
>Guesstimate head tilt>Guesstimate the spine>Eyeball the size and tilt of ribcage and pelvis shapes (egg, box, etc)>Guesstimate a box with the perspective of the pelvis and the shoulders>Guesstimate the appendage sizes by important points (wrist and elbow for arms, knee and ankle for legs) and mentally map them out (like the 90 degree triangle between the knees and extended leg's ankle)>Guesstimate the connections between the 3 large masses (head, torso and pelvis) while paying attention to the general shape of the figure)At this point of time i usually run out of time and cant properly finish the arms and legs so i just quickly try to capture them in general.
I think it's also important not to get too chaught up in fixing a mistake you've made because you can end up redoing it over and over again, basically wasting your time.
IC and beg morale all time low after yesterday.
Verdict: time to draw
This takes too long to make. I'll have to switch to a simpler art style if I want to increase productivity.
>>7647935idk im doing great
>>7647940Please don't say you use mouse to draw
>>7647940yo what up mousenigga
They call me 007
0 hours drawn today
0 studies
7 hundred references saved from pinterest
>>7647935Why? What happened?
>>7647951don't worry about it kitten
>>7647955You're abusing that line tool like it owes you money
can someone recognize what brush I used for this? i want to try something like it again but I can't figure out what brush and I deleted all my brushes? it's a hard round right
>>7647951Check the last thread at your own discretion, if you really want to know
>>7647958You are correct. I know it's stupid. When I do the backview of the character I'll try to use another way. This shit ain't worth it.
>>7647965like pen or pencil? maybe a drawing tablet?
>>7647959looks like a hard round with opacity on pen pressure maybe flow too, plus bit of texture you can see it at the end of the strokes in the middle right
>>7647967No. Another brush, screentones, or just a slightly more sloppy hatching I mean.
>>7647965Just get any tablet. You're going to end up hating drawing if you keep on using mouse. You're not going to develop any muscle memory for drawing either by using mouse to draw so you're really just hurting your progress
>>7647970i dub thee mousefag, the new hottest /ic/ permabeg
You guys are fucking pathetic. Stop starting drama and draw instead, post drawing for me to redline
>>7647940Theres no helping you. I've tried and tried but you insist on being a dumb idiot
>>7647972He has been here as long as me, maybe even longer
>>7647968may have mixed two. i was thinking it may have been the sinix brush
>>7647977so there's credence to his permabeggery
>>7647940Dude. Did you really do those hatchings and everything line by line with mouse and line tool. I weep at the idea of having to do something like that
>>7647971>>7647976Do you guys think I don't know how I stupid this is? I do. I'm already feeling all of it's downsides. But I know exactly what I'm getting myself into and I just don't care. And don't worry. I WILL get a tablet eventually.
>>7647977I started coming over here around august of 2024. Maybe a month earlier, don't remember quite well.
>>7647986Looking a bit closer It's not a pattern. it's all made line by line. Fuck fuck fuck. I genuinely feel bad for this poor bastard
>>7647994I tried using line screentones, but it looked terrible.
>>7647990Until that time don't post here and waste our time it's useless trying to learn a tabletless nigga how to draw digitally when he's using a goddamn mouse
>>7647996How long did this take? It looks like so much work
>>7647997Waste your time? You motherfuckers rarely asnwer to my posts. Makes no difference.
>>7648004i've seen 2 other drawn out arguments like this that start because of your posts be serious
>>7647957Wtf, thanks anon, I'll try to apply some of that
|| I still don't see the donkey tho ||
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i tried studying some vilppu (basic proportions and upper torso anatomy) but i don't know how to apply it or if i even retained most of it.
>>7648010Same but i never dared to ask this
>>7648010test yourself by drawing figures from imagination
>>7648008>Discord spoiler on 4chanAight time to go to bed
>>7648004Because you make me seethe with your retardedness
It lives rentfree in my head. Making a DIGITAL manga without a tablet. Kys
Better permabeg than aijeet.
the nihu stuff just makes me sad
>>7647990>>7647940Dont listen to any of these niggers. You are limited by your hardware and yet you persist beyond that.
I have heard of many artists mastering the Bezier Curve tool to draw good curves with mouse. Why not try that?
>>7648023What are you laughing for, asshole?
He wants to draw but lacks proper hardware and comes up with ways to draw around his limitations.
He is a true artist. Much more than a filthy AIjeet.
>>7648025what about pencil and paper
>>7647999For now, 9 hours total.
>>7648026what owning a tablet could make him achieve...
>>7648007Yes. That's the only kind of interaction I get here. It pisses me off.
>>7648026That's cool as hell anon.
>>7648008I liked it. You should reference Yuji Himukai of Etrian Odyssey fame and Mike Mignola for this style.
>>7648033do you think there's nothing you could do or change about your mentality or how you draw to prevent that sort of thing
>>7648022Thabk you anon. I'm always trying to find ways to work around my tool. So I will try that sometime. But that might not be necessary. As soon as the mouse becomes even more of a burden, I will switch for a tablet
>>7648034Thanks. I did reference Himukai but i'm only vaguely aware of Mignola. I'll look into his works, it seems interesting.
>>7648014that's what i considered but he brought up how everything starts from gesture and without it it falls apart
i've tried to do gesture drawing before but it just has never come out well
>>7648028How long did this one take you anon?
>>7647666>>7647668Alright I gotta admit that I see what you mean now that I got around to doing a sketch of the face, I didnt intend for it to become male eyes but alas, erased the lashes and I will try and make something out of it even though Ive literally never drawn a male character before
>>7648051I didn't time it
I just found the anon's ref interesting
>>7647935Last thread was funny as fuck and gave me a boost of hopium though.
super quick sinix brush test
>>7648061Hopium? An exceptional anon got raked through the coals for no reason other than blind jealously and it gives you hope?
>>7648063I kept visualizing Jackie Kennedy i hope that comes across
>>7648064Hacks that continously attempt to deceive others is not *blind jealousy* disgusting pajeet. Kill yourself
>>7648064>An exceptional anon got raked through the coals for no reason other than blind jealouslyWe just ignoring the obvious tracing AI parts that he did? Oh damn guess we are all talentGODS if we are allowed to trace AI images then!
did a study with both pencil and then marker
used the pencil lightly to draw everything, then the brush tip to do the heavy lines, then the fine tip for everything else, and then lastly the brush tip for an outline
I think it turned out pretty well tbqhwy family
I might even try another one with a fountain pen, but not rn bc I'm tired
also tried doing a bit of color on the rose and it's meh
should've used colored pencils so the lines would've still had presence
>>7648067was she the one with the lobotomy
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>>7647070Something about her proportions is making her legs look short. I get the impression you want her clothes to look looser on top but it's making her torso too broad and boxy.
>>7647106Tiny cup
>>7647146Those drow boobs look weighty so no, it's not over.
>>7648064Let me trace AI and I also get attacked by blind jealousy!
>>7648092that wasn't me, Paige chan likes boys!
>>7648088cute drawing paige
>>7648089Please give her a bigger ass. I am begging you with my dick on hand.
>>7648092Not deersis. Just someone who wants to make paige her househusband
>>7647935im fine i had other bullshit than that thread
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>>7647950i feel called out
>>7647952thats so cute
>>7648088i like the hair
>>7648096not before i steal him
>>7647285The deep black shadow on this one is cool.
>>7647309There's a lot of empty space, It's at an awkward distance from the viewer. Closer would be a more standard group picture vut futher would feel more like sitting in the crowd.
>>7647394Great arms but I think you placed the belly button on your ogre too low and it threw you off.
>>7648094>likes boys>>7648096>>7648097Its over for you dirty Hags
Trying out extreme perspective from imagination. Initial rough sketch looks promising, hope I won't fuck it up in the process. Wasted too much time on the last pose
>>7644919 that was boring and doomed from the start. Also the face was dogshit I'll do a better job this time
wow the comment to image ratio is 2:1, not fucking bad ic
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>>7647467proportions seem a bit off in the face but the sheen on the coat is great. You captured the sunlight well.
>>7647482Charming drawing.
>>7647485Stop shading with an airbrush and practice drawing and painting in grayscale before touching colour. When you go back to colour, practice real life examples. Try using a tool that emulates a real pencil or a brush to draw. Your deviantart crimes are dirty looking airbrush shading with no edge contol, unharmonious colour schemes and drawing with a binary pen. The furry isn't helping but it's not the biggest problem.
>>7648107tomboyfag drama has revitalized the general at its lowest point
>>7647499You should give it a week at least...
>>7647522I dunno what was said to you in the last thread, but from what I can see it's not drawing shadows that's the issue so much as colouring in the entire face with your pencil. I actually agree with you that it's much harder to avoid symbol drawing without shadows, but you should try to simplify the shadows down to just the most obvious ones like around the eyes, and the shadows cast by the nose and lips for now.
>>7647596It the grading really necessery?
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>>7647561nigga you can't draw for shit wtf are these corrections
WIP portrait, originally for the DTIYS thread but that's gone now
drama and troll redlines, that's what you deserve
>>7648095There's limits to the liquify tool unfortunately.
>>7648124>the grading really necessery?we at school now boys!
>>7648128ppftt XD
>>7648132
>>7648121no the tomboy drama dramatically skews comments over images which means it's a thread full of nodraws
>>7648136Yeah fuck nodraws!!!
>>7648124That's an actually proper suggestion, I'll try to remember about it when I'm drawing again
holy fuck construction gets so much easier when you use a gesture line in the middle instead of just freehanding and draw along the gesture
i tried to draw this girl, her real face is square shaped but she still looks feminine, but whenever i try to draw her to square shape makes it look like a boy's face, any tips?
also i want to ask, i used to draw anime as a kid and stopped, now i want to get back into it seriously and hopefully get good enough to write my own manga, but i want to learn anatomy.
you guys think it's better to study from some book or course or should i just keep drawing by using models like this and do it until i get better?
sorry if it's a dumb question, i hope everyone is doing well
>>7648136There was a guy who didn't even know how a painting software work
>>7648130HEY! i planned on doing that motif as well! i just saved it from a /tv/ thread yesterday after looking for inspiration, but i did a laura palmer one instead. looks great! even cuter than the real shelley!
I am getting very frustrated at my lack of progress with gesture drawing.
>>7648193pyw
I find it helps to look at how other people successfully do gestures and try to copy their thought process. There's some great people in /fig/
>somehow struggling more drawing male hair than female hair
AAAIIIIEEEEEE
>>7648201One of the pages from today
I think I should move on to something else for a while or just doodle for a bit but I really want to do gesture well to draw people so I don't want to do anything else, but the tension and frustration I feel right now is making it impossible to improve at the moment anyway.
I didn't know /fig/ was a thing I'll check em out
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>>7648223Me when I want to waste my time learning nothing.
>>7648223bro... it's been 6 months...
>>7648223Your dedication is admirable. However, you could spend a bit more time on your accuracy. Try to make each figure look the same. Draw each shape consciously and with purpose and not sloppy and quickly. You can do this!
>>7648233Seriously, at this point it's more of an autistic ritual if there isn't any effort being made towards self correction. Kind of like if every day some guy came to the gym and sloppily flailed his arms at a punching bag. But then again, maybe they don't want to improve and just like the ritual of flailing their arms at a punching bag.
>>7648233Most diabolical crabpost ITT
>>7648237no, he has a point
>>7648244Broadly, sure. But any reply to that guy that isn't calling him a moron for wasting his time for months doing the same thing is missing the bigger picture. That exercise serves no purpose after a week or two of doing it. It's time he moves onto observational drawing unless his goal is to just draw misshapen circles and triangles for the rest of his life.
>>7648233my headcanon is that anon is doing it as a way to overcome neuropathy or palsy
>>7648256If he'd draw perfect circles and triangles his curse would be lifted and he could move on.
>>7648259may be ataxic like me
>>7648274It's not nice to lie like that...
>>7648272He's busy playing Tekken 8
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rendering pain starts tomorrow
>>7648272he ate his pencils and erasers when he was homeless. haven't you heard?
>>7648283Pawell's still living with his daddo :3
>>7647235I want him back too.
Now I'm the only German left
>>7648223Pretty good, but now's the time to incorporate your lines into actual drawings.
Look up Peter Hans and Krenz on youtube to take steps towards sketching simple things, you don't want to draw nothing but lines and circles.
>>7648272What happened to him? Did schizos bully him off the board too?
>>7648301Pawell has thick skin, can't be said about others
The power vacuum that tomboyfag left will give Pawell the perfect opportunity he needs to retvrn.
>>7648301No, he just stopped drawing because life and then never picked it up since January because video games are giving more immediate dopamine.
>>7648304this 'tomboyfag' is an elaborate troll meant to both demoralize and cause drama because of the blatant AI reference. Whoever came up with the character is truly diabolical
>>7648307why would it demoralize anyone
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>>7648306Video games are like drugs. I literally had to add application blockers to force myself to stop playing.
>>7648162You have a horizontal bias. Some people have a tendency to make figures too long, some make them too wide, some even have a bias towards a particular corner of the page. If you compare the drawing to the reference you can see she's longer and leaner in the photo. This will end up applying to the face and head too since you're balancing it against a wider body. If you know you have a bias when you draw you can self correct, just keep it in mind.
If you have difficulty with something, use books and courses to study it specifically.
Is this a bad portrait?
I don't really do faces
>>7648311He was the most succesful artist beg and ic has seen in some time and to find out he has just been using AI kinda just hurts. Also he was part of this place for so long many people had grown attached to him so they must feel betrayed
>>7648307That will happen with anyone who "make it" here. /ic/ will only be your friend if you keep being a beglet or nodraw. People who want to be good and unbothered should just stop posting here.
>>7648318He literally just got an AI image from some website he didn't even know it was AI and used as a pose. People just want to 'cancel' others like twitter does.
>>7648313thank you very much for your advice anon, now that you mentionned it i notice that i do have a tendency to make things wider
>>7648317What's the reference you used?
>>7648317I'm sorry, it's a bad portrait. Why is her face melting?
>>7648318That's news to me, how do you know he was using AI?
>>7648320But he did know. He was fully aware and didn't seem to care
>>7648326Someone found his ai refs, not sure how
>>7648329I talked to him, he said he didn't know. Funny thing that was posted months ago and no one tried to do anything, they just waited for the slightly success.
>>7648317I don't even know how to help you if you're seriously asking that.
>>7648331It's more like when someone begins being touted as having made incredible progress in such a short period of time it will draw a lot of attention. Especially if the progress is seemingly only due to copying from reference.
>>7648331People even called it out at the time back when he did it for the first time, but then he did it again anyway
>>7648329Using an AI ref isn't the best thing, but it's not really on the same level as claiming generated images as hand drawn or even AI paint overs.
I think it's a mistake, especially when you're learning but the only person he's fucking over is himself. Seems like a non issue.
>>7648334What's really so bad on using an AI ref if it's just the pose and you changed literally everything? I'm not looking for meme answers, how is it different from referencing another artists and use the same pose? It's just because "it's AI so it's evil"?
>>7648282Looks really good. Did you use refs for the background?
>>7648336>>7648337Look at his latest post with that red head tomboy. You can tell he studied AI and that made his style look like AI even IF he stopped using AI. It has all the stupid quirks AI art has
>>7648339Yes, otherwise i would not have been able to get the perspective right im afraid. even with a ref it was a challenge
>what do you mean tomboyfag traced AI? Nonsense!
We really need to move on.
>>7648337It's the same reason you're supposed to limit how much you copy other artists in the beginning. When you're learning it's very easy to pick up mistakes and bad habits that you'll have to unlearn later if you even realise it. AI tends to get things wrong in more insideous ways than humans as well. It's bad data, basically.
If you have sufficient knowledge and competence to catch and correct every mistake then you can use whatever you want. Most people don't though.
>schizos finally left deer alone
>but they urge to bring another drama
whyyyyyyyyyy can't we have a normal drawing thread
>>7648343I don't have a xwitter account and I don't know his handle anyway. You'll have to spoonfeed me if you want me to look at it.
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>>7647467I like the head here. Really just need to tweak the shapes and edges of the mane area into something more interesting
>>7648019Going to steal this wisp-y line look
>>7647974Same
>>7648347Who cares? Just draw
>>7648352everyday im doodlinnn
>>7648347>but that's a beg study from a ref he copied months ag-ACK
>>7648352I will only leave deer alone the moment she steps on my balls and lets me make out with her cute tomboy mouth.
I love her so much. I spent all morning dreaming about being her husband, saving her from her abusive stepfather and buying her the cute dresses she loves.
>You will never marry deersis and heal her fucked up brain through the power of love
>>7648354>>7646697You can tell he studied AI
>>7648343He deleted it when anons threatened to tell on all his comm buyers he was selling traced AI.
>>7648360>a beg made a beg mistake, i'm shook
>>7648361would you buy her all the art supplies she wants and gain weight for her?
it is funny that favela's art all of a sudden became the bland pinup style that ai usually does because it can't do very complex compositions or poses
>>7648357People tend to care when said person tends to act smug and mighty for drawing really good in a REALLY short amount of time, just for it to turn out to be an AI tracing favelamonkey
>>7648364But it's not AI? Why would he be afraid of someone lying? Anyone with a good pair of eyeballs would realize no AI was used. Go ahead and tell his buyers, they'll tell you to fuck off and that you're lying. It doesn't matter.
>>7648371>ends to act smug and mightyNow you're lying, he never acted that way. In fact dude was always so polite in this board that was hard to believe he was brazillian.
>>7648372It looks like AI. Doesn't really matter if it is.
I should really learn to draw old people, I think that break I took really fucked up my ability to draw head's and faces. but at the very least I have something to study and work on now
>>7648361didn't deerbro say that he isn't a woman? I always thought he was a hot twunk anyways so I have no idea where the "deerbro is a woman" idea comes from
>>7648361pls reveal yourself sir. which discord are you watching me in
>>7648377this, it's a shame the whole of /ic/ tried crabbing on someone who studied images they don't personally like.
>>7648363Nothing in this stands out to me as being AI, if you say it is I'll assume you have some kind of proof but the line quality looks more like a lack of confidence than trying to get away with tracing. I could be wrong, but I wouldn't call this damning.
The real fraudulent thing about tomboyfag is that my nigga doesn't even draw tomboys. You can't make a sexy anime girl with big boobs then give her short hair and call her a tomboy. Tomboys don't wear skimpy clothes. Some of y'all are really not about this shit.
>>7648381>>7648377I think it's a personal issue from the schizo. He could be right, but he ended up mocking the guy's depression and even his allies stopped posting. It's not about AI, it's personal.
yay i love drawing i love tv
>>7648387Yeah, schizo is a vile person. Let's forget this happened and keep drawing.
>>7648386Anime tomboys are different from IRL tomboys btw desu, most of the real tomboys are lesbians or end up going FtM
got sidetracked into making a program to practice figure drawing
right now it's pretty simple, you just pass it a zip file with images and it generates a session
>>7648394what ref pack is this?
>>7648312based solution finder
>>7648396'Everyday Drawing Art Poses'
>>7648404damn, couldn't find a working link. thanks though
I'm trying fake pixel art style, just lowering the res
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Lots of good stuff in this thread, keep it up
>>7648104I need to sleep on this to see the mistakes. Shoulder on the left feels too big. Hand looks weird and maybe it'd be better to just remove it. But I really want it to be there. Maybe I'll come up with something tomorrow.
>>7648439Also now that I look at it, it looks stupid that the blade takes up 3/4 of the picture lol.
>>7648178Thank you, I hope I can do her justice when I decide to keep working on this.
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Linework almost done. Hope this looks better rendered hehe
>>7648336I honestly think he's AI blind or something, look at his response to this
>>7645176
>>7648439A rough sketch of the pose from a normal angle would help you to figure out these issues.
>>7648443Unless the blade is super tiny, it should be extending beyond the frame.
>>7648476don't care about time, keep quality
>>7646964 (OP)Recent life drawings
>>7648476Very good practice anon, keep it up
I spent a lot of time on this but I keep picking it apart
very derivative but I tried
still shaky handed
>>7648460looks like a foot
>>7648495Perspective doesn't make any sense
If this is abstract painting, then go for it, but
The composition is not that interesting either; a quick and easy way to plan a composition is to draw a thumbnail of your idea
btw basic perspective is not hard to learn, I don't know why people hate perspective
Niggubros, he is still making thousands of dollars tracing AI.
https://x.com/Reizeeb/status/1945216446457356320
>>7648522how fast he draws is also a concerning thing
>>7648531You don't know how much time he took for that.
The real question here is why none of you have gotten any better or faster. Shouldn't you be drawing instead of complaining about some guy who's not even at all related to your own improvement?
>>7648535Everytime people start to actually post drawings, that guy does that, looks like he just hates to see people drawing. Now he will start samefagging. Mods do nothing.
>>7648533it's how much output he has, it's full pieces every day
>>7648540I would do full pieces everyday if I was a neet.
ey everyone! I made this drawing, but the pose and the face look kind of weird. Any tips?
>>7648543itd help if u told us what the pose is supposed to convey. i canโt really tell what shes trying to do
Is there a place for abstract art here?
>>7648543her left arm is torn from the shoulder
her face bears an expression of extreme pain
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>>7648503Thanks! that's exactly what it is.
i literally can't draw anything but the tv I broke my brain, i can't draw floating blurry gesture hand women, it's over
god I wish this were true
>>7648599yeah, would suck
>>7648593It's true though
back to basics
>>7648476take your time, you doing great
>>7648495I wish to be millionaire son.
>>7648543right now it looks more like your character carries the cross than sword,
you can try raising up head and changing leg position a bit.
>>7648599cool
>>7648476Very good.
>>7648491Itโs ok but that guy with the beanie I thought was a smegma foreskin at first.
>>7648545Abstract how? Are you just the portrait guy? I used to be in your spot when it came to art. Draw more stuff like
>>7648476 >>7648599Yeah.
Feels like i had a minor epiphany, from studying my eraser of all things, about how to "cut" into a basic form
>>7648477Will do
>>7648491>>7648622>>7648641Thank you
Is this sketch appealing?
>>7647940based mouse nigga, keep thugging out there king (you really should buy a tablet before you rape your wrists)
>>7648161give an example, this might be what i'm looking for
>>7648670omega sovl overload from those expressions, viral and simon?
>>7648678viral x Simone is a kino ship, so is Kamina x viral or Kamina x Simone
that show has so many hot ships
I saw some artist just tracing 3d models for shit like lace and architecture.
I feel like I am being left behind.
>>7648689Puritans starve.
WIP. I want to fill the page with different colored...things
>>7646990It was easier flipped idc
Husband study=happy study
What would you guys call this style that is between realistic and anime?
>>7648713That's still anime my good dude.
>>7648686I was in high school when ttgl came out and I would self insert as Simone or Yoko and daydream about Kamina being my bf
>>7648713>He thinks there is only one "anime" style.ngmi
>>7646987>>7646990idk how long the male one took, the female one was 4 minutes
>>7648733That's just going from more to less stylized, dumbass. I don't think every step on that spectrum has a name. It would be easier if you just called that style by its author and be done with it.
I found an artist's face style I really fucking love. Would it be shameless to copy them?
>>7648737d-d-dont be r-rude...
>>7648734Same.
>>7648727That Tenna is built like a shit brick house
>>7648733This is where anime peaked.
>>7648743i really want to draw him like a bara like the gay guys and asian women are doing but my heart isn't in it so that's probably the only bara tenna i will ever draw
>>7648746Bro there is a new episode tomorrow.
>>7648751No fucking way. There's a new season?
>>7648754You blind fuck where the fuck have you been these past two years?
>>7648757Deathmogged. Holy fuck I legit felt one of my teeth fall off.
But yeah the newest season was announced last year after a 15 year wait.
First episode dropped last wednesday. Tomorrow is the 2nd one.
>>7648573Finished. Any comments? This was done referencing a frame stitch from the anime so it looks better than most of my other work heh
>>7648762the eyes could be a bit smaller otherwise nice
>>7648762You dont work like a real footfag.
>>7648762Hold up you are the frogfag?
How did you get this good since January?
>>7645250Page 7 Done! She's not gonna make it easy for him...
>>7645254>really impressed with your storytelling. Inspirational stuff anon.You really think so? Woah thank you so much anon! I always think that my shit is too cringy, and it can only be posted in a place like this lol
>>7647146Yes! Nice stuff! I'm saving it just for that girl in the middle, thanks for sharing anon!
>>7647215You're getting more and more refined, "fine art" seems like a natural outcome for you Deerfren
>>7647320Those lines on her are GODLY, saved!
>>7647327BEAUTIFUL
>>7647469This study is a true delight, saved for ref
>>7647438An artistic marvel! Thanks for bringing beauty to this world anon
>>7647285Cool as usual
>>7647240Did you draw your snowy monkees in an onsen setting already?
>>7648669Thank you anon. I will.
>>7648678Yeah, Viral and Simon. I wish those were expressions I designed; I'm copying through Yoshinari's artbook today trying to absorb his soul as best I can.
>>7648038Get yourself a tablet already,
You are raping your hands for nothing.
tried drawing him in my normal style.
>>7648794her poor shy face as she tries to fight off whatever is coming /: poor girl!
thank you peril.
>>7648810These are some seriously breedable fertile looking hips
>>7648774I see, I tend to make them too big, gotta work on that!
>>7648780Sorry, it's the first time I draw a foot centric piece, I promise I will expand my visual library on the matter hehe
>>7648785I don't remember drawing any frog aroun january, I did one in june, tho. I used a reference for this one so that might be it.
>>7648816that's because he is breedable (; ehhehehehe
i prefer him as a top but "robot" like things having wide breedable pelvises is too irresistible
>>7648608only if you survive, most people break
My first paintings
Really happy with my progress just in these first two studies. Feel free to critique, just wanted to pmw
>>7648838POV you're inside of
>>7648846 's anus
>>7648802Do you have a link or is it a physical copy?
>>7648849god i wish I was in his anus
>>7648856Search Yoshinari on ehentai, it should come up. I have a physical copy too.
should I polish a turd of a sketch tonight or try another sketch or two?
i want to draw anime girls but i need to apply what little of anatomy i learned from vilppu
>>7648861Try another sketch, do it now.
>>7648849Let me out. I need to draw
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>>7648838To study shape design, do live drawing with fruits.
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biggest struggle today was the foot, realized that i dont understand the anatomy well enough to be able to visualize scrunched toes gotta grind some, the leg also seems to still be too long now that I'm looking at it once more despite me fixing it. my lighting is also scuffed af, my mind keeps struggling to understand the direction of the light source so it's inconsistent in place. I just tell myself it's artistic license. moving at a snails pace
>>7648881can you redline this
>>7647025
>>7648883Shitty composition but A for effort.
>>7648881is that meant to show form? it's just a shape
F- redline
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>>7648794Thank you. I like your comic too. Keep it up.
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>>7648282Keep the lines simple, especially if you dont know how the fabric flows. Do NOT trace blindly.
>>7648898these redlines are retarded
>>7648898you made the proportions a bit better, but these redlines are still too sloppy to be useful
also low res image
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>>7647025I dont know what is that small character, zero form
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>>7648917the tenna with a human nose monstrosity is fucking terrifying holy fuck
>>7648920Ah I see, it is some characters with sharp nose. I didn't know that, I still don't like the nose. Look like some kind of Mr. TV character. don't like it.
>>7648922the ball advice is genuinely helpful I always forget about that one so thanks anyway but yeah they don't have human faces or human forms they're wonky
>>7648917the noses were clearly stylized to be pointed
but you seem to know a lot about testicles, you must have studied them a lot
and some of the shapes are better designed
D tier redline
>>7648930I'm just shocked he actually did it I was fully expecting him to ignore my request. props for that
>>7648926I dont know the characters, i still think it is funny to give it a jew nose, if the piece is satire? I still don't know what is it about.
>>7648930Remember, my redlines are bold lines to show the shape and the flow, not meant to be final artwork, and allow room for the artist to trace over until it feels right. I'm not trying to do the job for them either, just grading. If I give you a total of 6 A- or A+, or 12 B+ minimum, you will auto graduate to /int/ LOL
>>7648937gonna be honest nigga you suck at drawing and all of your redlines have been shit
>>7648939he can't draw boxes or anything for shit so my only thought is that this is an elaborate troll
>>7648938Ok thanks, green line over red line? I want to learn.
>>7648944you need to get better at drawing yourself
>>7648944Not him but there is not much point in correcting a lazy redline, you said yourself "not meant to be final artwork". You'd just make more excuses.
sometimes I redline my own stuff after I draw it when I draw without guidelines recently and go over it with construction after to see what i can do better in the future is this a good method
>>7648898Tracing schizos are running rampant lately. What's up with that? /ic/ turns into a social media-lite hell hole with trends and shit?
>>7648898Wtf even is this redline supposed to be nigga?
>>7648963i think in that case he meant the anon is tracing assets, which is not a big deal and lots of people trace 3d models
>>7648967I know what he meant. He pulled it out of his ass and his redlines show he is mid beg at best and he has no idea he is talking about.
>>7648970i agree, I'd say mid beg too
>>7648967in kindergarten most of us were told that tracing or copying someone else's work was cheating and not allowed
>>7648898Never reply to me again
Never traced, have posted videos of my sketching of this particular piece in previous threads
Low value rage bait honestly
Come on guys really? They're giving fucking grades with redlines that don't really do anything. It's someone that's giggling and kicking their feet while fucking with you guys.
>>7648991troll usually act more subtle for plausible deniability, this guy is a DK
>>7648988yeah idk why he thinks you're tracing the things he pointed out are so mundane
>>7649001its stupid, especially when i record all my shit for this exact reason
sad to see beg has yet another schizo
this suggestion on "proportions" dont make sense either, for one the character is very stocky, for two he's a little hunched over resting on a railing.
heres the first 20 minutes of the drawing
https://files.catbox.moe/9vb2v8.mp4
I'm so damn tired of being a perma/beg/
>>7649006>especially when i record all my shit for this exact reasonIt's not worth it to even prove yourself to schizos, I've seen people here claiming there is "invisible layer" that the artist traces over when presented with a video. They just want to troll you or are legitimately mind broken. Not worth your time either way. Just call them a retard and that's it.
more shitty redlines in /dad/
>>7648877>>7647825maybe he is just trolling, feel free to ignore his redlienes if you don't think they are useful
>>7649021no way to use an invisible layer if i record my whole screen
theres no reason to prove myself to schizos but theres a lot of anons reading his bullshit. want to prevent what happened to niggu to happen to me eventhough im just a lowly beg its never a bad idea to have proof
>>7649021>I've seen people here claiming there is "invisible layer" that the artist traces over when presented with a videothis is actually a thing you can do in procreate at least, you can set private layers that won't appear in the timelapse
>>7648965Because he didn't know how to draw fabric and decide to draw wave shapes. So I want to show him that a straight clean line is much better.
>>7649024Tracing isn't bad, you just have to trace with design in mind.
>>7649074>cheating isnt bad, you just gotta be creative about it
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sleep tight Aiza
>>7649074sure, go trace then. i dont care if other people trace but i dont trace.
>>7646987Who is She?
>>7647106Nya nya
>>7647223Cuute foks
>>7648988Take it as a compliment Pookie
>>7649131drawing outside in beautiful weather? based
>>7649131>Who is She?Cristy Ren
>>7649093>>7649123Everyone else is tracing, either over their own sketch or 3D assets. It must be painful for you to keep drawing shit after shit without knowing when or how to fix it. Do some tracing my friend.
>>7649154>Everyone else is tracing, either over their own sketch or 3D assets. stupid argument, saying someone is tracing because they're tracing their own sketch (but leaving that part out) is being negative on purpose and doesn't offer any critique whatsoever
>It must be painful for you to keep drawing shit after shit without knowing when or how to fix it. Do some tracing my friend.its not hard to know what to fix, when i do studies i overlay on the ref and check my mistakes. (dont worry, i have a video of drawing this hand too in case anyone will say its traced)
We are still just in page 6, no need for new thread yet
>>7649163Stop being a faggot, teach people to trace, you trace and change a bit enough for it to look nice. That's just shape design.
>>7649224what have ever traced except my own sketch. tell me, i'd like to know
>>7649227When I do fast sketch, I tend to want it to be quick and easy, to flush out things I want and don't want and then I trace. Sometimes I trace over photos, over other people's art, over pose, sometimes I even use abstract shapes. It depends on what is needed. And then I trace again. Tracing is a tool.
>>7649243i dont care if people trace to study, as long as they dont claim it to be their own work
People are taking the bait en masse
>>7648794no i didnt!
thats actually an excellent idea XD
good stuff, as always
>>7648920human tenna will live in my nightmares
>>7649131nice legs
>>7649224wait are you the line/design guy who got kicked from all those servers for talking about how German girls are mature enough for sex at 14. holy fuck no way
im almost 100% sure this redline dude is the shape design/line autist who wouldn't stop admitting to how he'd fuck children if the age of the consent was lower there's no way it isn't the text tics are just too similar
>>7649315it's the exact same text tics and fixation on shape design
>>7649111*snaps her neck*
Sleep tight, Aiza!
can someone beat me into learning hands because I hate drawing them so much they just turn into amorphous blobs
>>7649431What did they mean by that?
>>7649502Nice
>>7649524One tries to spread happiness, the other is saying her second name is Nit
>>7647783Steve Huston head drawing video on Youtube