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>>7649193 (OP)
tired of these shit op's with shit images and no resources

>>7649193 (OP)
The effort...
..all gone

Well done, baker. Now all us begs have to follow the chain 3 steps back in the archive to find the thread with the resources.

old thread was perfectly usable as well, only on page 5
i guess summer really has begun

>>7649193 (OP)
we just not putting artwork from previous threads in the OP anymore? lazy fucks

This OP is retarded and this thread needs to be nuked.

Nigger hands made this Thread
Do not post here

>>7649193 (OP)
THREAD CHALLENGE

>>7649222
Too ugly, delete.

>>7649222
Too beautiful, delete.

>>7649197
ngmi
>>7649198
pyw

>>7649193 (OP)
Single panel from a one page comic I’m working on, the text is the lyrics to damaged goods by Gang of Four

crappy pre group drawing
unrelated but I want to kill everyone who chews with their mouth open

>>7649259
sex

>>7649261
marry me paige

>>7649262
no pls stop asking, if you want me to leave just say so

>>7649263
リーブ

>>7649263
I don't want you to leave ever again, I want you in my life forever and make you happy every day

>>7649193 (OP)
OP's the Biggest faggot that ever fagged in this general. kys

hands
>>7649259
i like it, is it a bl comic?

colors are terrible

>>7649313
>colors are terrible
least of your worries

i can't practice or draw because everything comes out wrong even when i trace. i can see the mistakes but can't fix them. i do warm ups and drawabox exercises too but it doesn't help.
what do

>>7649335
>i can see the mistakes but can't fix them
if you can make a mark on a page or canvas, and can "see" the mistakes, but can't fix them, then you can't actually see them; if you can put a mark down incorrectly, you can move it here or there and put it down correctly.

>>7649222

>>7649335
I was going to help you, but this is a 'jak board not a ledditfrog board. Sorry!

>>7649222
Is this pic old or new? She looks so skinny here. Usually her body looks way better.

>>7649320
everything else are already terrible too

>>7649335
Post your work nigga

Ready to be graded anon?

The /beg/ banner we deserved

>>7649313
I like this anon, very expressive

i tried drawing Mai more on model with the new sf6 appearance

>>7649374
don't get lazy

>>7649374
Your DNA test just came back, and I'm sorry to say you have 0% Asian genes...

>>7649193 (OP)
I need a crit
Is the face alright?

>>7649374
Ah hell no

>>7649374
Good work but the eyes look a bit strange

>>7649374
ignore the crabs
your painting style and anatomy here are very good but the face is scary and unappealing

Poppy

>>7649386
The eyes are a bit apart and I think it'd help if she emoted a bit instead of just standing there with a vaguely content expression. I don't know how it works with lesbians but when I do this shit the ladies are usually screaming and calling the police

>get idea to draw two characters you like
>okay gotta establish the background of the shot
>no that’s not the perspective
>okay that’s not it either
>NIGGER LOOK AT THE PICTURE AND JUST DRAW THE LINE YOU SEE HOW IS THIS HARD YOU SEE IT
>OH GOOD THERE YOU GO YOU DREW TOO HARD ON THE PAPER NOW IT’S RUINED FUCK YOU YOU CAN’ DO ANYTHING RIGHT JUST GIVE UP
How do I get whatever that is to shut up? I objectively know I don’t have the skills to draw well but my brain can’t stand making something that looks shit even for fun. I just wanted to draw /co/ characters and I’m angry at myself for fucking up the hallway they’re in and I don’t know why I can’t just draw bad and get over drawing bad, it feels shameful to be this old and be bad at drawing even if it makes sense from not practicing.

>>7649193 (OP)
next thread wont even have a title not even a single letter

>>7649444
meds

>>7649444
Drawabox. You want dopamine from drawing well, so start off small and learn to be really good at drawing cubes and pyramids and spheres. Every cartoon is just so many of those put together like lego, when you can draw your basics you can draw cartoons.

You’re not going to be a cartoonist, but if you wanted to be in the industry you’d have said that, so this is probably a hobby for you. Relax and keep drawing daily, you’ll get better. Forgive yourself for making mistakes along the way, even if you think you deserve punishment for messing up. Whoever’s yelling at you in your mind is a question for therapy to answer, but art isn’t a race and you’re not a bad person for making bad art at any age. Just keep trying.

Now fuck off this isn’t your therapy hugbox faggot.

>>7649444
Just make something first, you can make it work later.
It is just the first iteration.
You set your expectations too high and that's not a bad thing, holding yourself to high standard is great going forward but it shouldn't get to the point of crippling your efforts.

Finished the base rendering for the clown girls how does it it look? The lights meant to be coming from a bright spotlight in the centre stage

>>7649193 (OP)
>Ignored in the previous thread because everyone was busy with the redline faggot

>>7649536
Welcome to the club buddy

>>7649536
why is this thread never in peace?
>drama about someone
>some trolls
>schizos
>nodraws

>>7649198
I've never seen any evidence of begs actually using those resources.

>>7649261
>sex
Yes but not in the comic
>>7649291
Yeah, but that’s not the main focus of it, it’s more about the guy with no beard (Mack) trying and failing to be a functional person after surviving escaping a cult in the 80s, and, much to his dismay, missing the guy who ran the cult

Pic of full unfinished comic because it’s easier to understand by seeing it

>>7649222
Tried to use the pose but this is what i got

>>7649374

thank you for your critiques guys
I made several alterations
worst thing I missed before was the left arm it was way too low sorry about that

>>7649574
Just go anime and become a god

>>7649576
>Just go anime and become a god
See I hate this, why not have more interesting unique styles instead of just becoming yet another animeslop r34 Twitter artist?

>>7649578
Cuz becoming an animeslop twitter artist is a lot easier than being unique with an individual style.

>>7649574
very nice improvement on the eyes. Seriously.
Big fan of the overall rendering and colours too.

her left hand (right in image) looks pretty big still... Also I'm not sure what emotion she is supposed to convey (but that might be intentional)

>>7649588
Ok maybe if you want to make money doing this, what if anon just wants to self express and make art for the sake of making it? Would it not be a shame to try and repress that?

>>7649578
When if he wants to draw for fun it's ok, but if he wants money he just needs to put an anime face in his style and post on twitter

>>7649522
I think the light should be stronger and higher contrast on the girls in the middle of the stage, with more rim lighting on the one furthest from it. It looks too diffused and like they're all being lit the same way.

>>7648794
Page 8 done! I am quite happy with how this whole dialogue went through on the last tow pages. I hope to add some variety with a new character in the next page
>>7648810
Thank you so much Tremor! Yeah, I'm aiming to add and experiment a lot of facial expression, maybe not so much now, but later when he gains confidence in how much torment he can apply to her. He will be gentle with her in the first class.
That pic you did is really good, I wanted to comment on it. I really like how it looks visually, similar to those Davinci's old drawings. Even in the gesture.

>>7648891
>hank you. I like your comic too. Keep it up.
Anon thank you so much, that picrel is incredibly hot as well, I'm saving that one too.
>>7649274
Really? Glad you are adding that new scenery to your monkeys, Thanks!
>>7649283
KINO PRESENTATION
>>7649386
As the other anon said the girl on the left may need her right eye to be fixed just a little, the other girl kissing the neck looks perfect.
>>7649574
She looks great! Whatever change you did on her it made her to look better, so congrats on that too.
>>7649522
Wow, big props for the amazing effort put on this.
>>7649565
Woah, a comic project? Cool! I wish you good luck on that, anon!

Here's my slop for the day
First attempt was from a month or two ago
Second attempt was earlier today

At least I'm making notable progress.

I'm starting to take notes of how I do things because I noticed that I'm forgetting them completely after a break. Maybe I need to sleep more than 5 hours a day, after all.

guys i am fucked, i am left handed so usually when i write on paper i rotate my paper 90 degrees
how do i draw, my brain cant draw on the paper not rotated

>>7649629
my tablet is always rotated like 45 degrees, i don't think it matters

>>7649625
Where in the ever-loving fuck did you learn that construction for the skull? Not telling you to change it since it doesn't matter as long as it works for you, but I've never seen that and it seems nonsensical to me.

>>7649629
I draw upside down and sideways more than "right way". The rotation of paper really shouldn't matter in the long run

>>7649584
Observation > construction

>>7649574
what do you study to paint skin color like this

>>7649636
Whoever taught you to draw faces like that should be put on trial

>>7649633
It took me a minute to understand it as well but I think the two ellipses on the sides are supposed to be the side of the head ala loomis, and the center ellipse is supposed to be the center line.

the warmup

>>7649644
the main course

>>7649644
>>7649645
>he uses his skill to draw insta thots
oh no no no

>>7649642
i just think it's cute

>>7649595
Is this better? I definitely struggle with doing high contrast

>>7649649
Imma be real with you. they kinda look like that momo thing

>>7649647
an improvement over seeing the same anime symbols slapped on heads for the millionth time

>>7649374
Sovl
>>7649574
Soulless, why did you listen to the crabs? The eyes are terrible now.

>>7649655
Cope

First time trying to color hair, kinda feels like it turned into slime. Thoughts?

>>7649659
I like it anon!
I dont think it looks like slime at all honestly

>>7649633
>Where in the ever-loving fuck did you learn that construction for the skull?
Nowhere. I was just looking at some rohitsuka sketches like this one until I decided to test drawing the ellipses directly. It turned out just as >>7649643 said.
The thing is that I suck at drawing eyes in 3D, specially when the skull ball is doing first. So I start with the face and once I'm satisfied on the positioning of eyes I define the volume of skull with these parallel ellipses.

pawell got a raise at his job
today his too lazy to draw
tomorrow too

15 minute gaster drawing.

>>7649654
christ. what can i improve while still keeping it simple and ":<"

"spamton neo"

>>7649193 (OP)

>>7649677
now the image makes sense

>>7649673
It might be terminal for you, but you could make the face have a bit more scructure. Right now it's just oval shape. and maybe try not to have the eyes so close together

Switched to a more orange/yellow background to not strain my eye as much as the blue one did.
I started working on a drawing i want to finish but at this point its basically just concept(on bottom right).
I realized (outside of a host of things) that i'll need to look up how clothes work to make good cloaks (copied hampton and tried to do a few 5 min figures with clothes with the focus on clothes). I feel like there's a lot i don't get yet about how to locate tension points exactly and as such i overuse the fold lines.

>>7649636
Might just be me, but the shadows feel very dark, did you use black as a color when you did the shadows or is the contrast just high?

>>7649679
It's actually republicans and democrats raping the libertarians

>>7649683
very nice
>>7649596
thank you for the davinci comment a lot, peril. I'm happy my inspirations from classical art have been coming across more recently (:
the way he's doubtful and explaining his actions to the listener/himself is very interesting, imagining alternate scenarios... what a handsome fellow..
>>7649522
looks very cool so far

>>7649222
well, my phone's camera recognized this face as a face

>>7649684
This nigga making everyone in beg seethe because he's a pure talented rat and I'm here for it
He's been drawing for 2 weeks by the way

>>7649574
nice tits
>>7649596
thats nice of you :3
your comics for some reason remind me of the old fashioned ones i used to read back in the day
>>7648703
im late but good stuff
>>7649674
imagine that laying under ur bed

>>7649683
wow

>>7649682
ill give it a try. a lot of times when i change it up, i end up reverting back to the same old simple face.
>>7649686
not black, just dark blue. i think i usually don't shade enough and i over adjusted this time

Working at the moment.

>>7649374
>>7649574
>same keymash filename

>>7649716
who is seething lol

did two drawings today both of references
this one obviously is with markers, I did the sketch with pencil first though

>>7649716
>making everyone in beg seethe
Your meds

cute little ramby

and the second one, just pencil
I think it looks ok enough desu

>>7649549
Mate I'm not going to announce every time I try to draw a Loomis head or try gestures from one of those timed figure study websites.

i'm doing loomis now

i'm doing michael hampton now

i'm fucking loomis raw

>>7649193 (OP)
Some gestures I did now. Pls advice.

>>7649762

!!!ALERT COMMENCING LOOMIS HEAD CONSTRUCTION ALERT!!!

>>7649549
I actively use those resources as a beg, I had to click multiple threads back to find them again so I could check out the figure drawing sites

i had posted this on the wrong thread on accident earlier, whoops. her name is Sadie, she was my warm up

>>7649783
sadiez nuts lol

>>7649574
Her face looks good. Reminds me of my ex.
And now i feel sad, so now it's bad

doodled some more eyes in different ways trying to settle on something

>>7649222
I am physically incapable of spending longer than 5 minutes on a thread challenge so this is the best we're going to get. clocked in at 4 mins

>>7649193 (OP)
Absolutely based as fuck OP
>no shitty beg scribbles as op image
>no shitty links
Thank you

Can I get some critique? particularly about the girls legs, knees, and shoes. which I cant help but feel they are all wrong.

>>7649812
draw the perspective grid for the floor and youll see where you fucked up
i am preoccupied so i can not redline but you can do it, i believe in oyu

>>7649814
I wouldn't know where to begin with a perspective grid.
Maybe thats why I suck.

>20 mins
>for this?
theres no way to capture the initial d style well i feel like

>>7649812
idk if it sbetter but i feel like it should be this
https://files.catbox.moe/f877tk.mp4

>max out speed drawing
>no real desire to learn to animate
hell

>>7649222
my line weight was a little all over the place on this one. wasn't timing but like ~ten minutes, maybe 15 because of the shading

Seeing what you faggots have drawn, I decided to skip the red line.

skip it forever, thanks

>>7649886
vengeance of god bros....

>>7649884

>>7649886
we won

i want to give ramb a hug so bad

>>7649923
More of this gay shit huh. Another thread spammed by this gay ass television with a dick because you can't be dicked down. Please ask your stepdad to do it or allow me. I can't take it anymore. The spam never ends. At least draw moe shit like I told you to

there should be a designated thread (not this one) for homosexual content, maybe even a designated board. that was I can avoid it with ease, because I'm not a homosexual.

>>7649928
ok tell me what to do daddy and be explicit tell me what to draw xoxoxoxo
it's not my fault I draw so fast ........

>>7649937
kill thineself

>>7649939
pact first bby girl

Grindin. Starting to feel like I should get a ruler but I dont want to become reliant on it

>>7649928
Based
Fuck that tranny spamming his shit scribbles

No comment.

how do people draw so much and so fast

>>7649861
man legs don't bend like that, right one looks broken and there's no knee, same thing with the left one. Study legs.

>>7649950
he will never stop, he likes making people mad

>>7649950
>>7649959
How dare you posting drawings in a drawing thread

>>7649956
They draw so much by spending the time to draw
They draw so fast by doing the first thing a lot

>>7649975
i like to draw !!!

>>7649861
to elaborate, i feel like youre tunnel-visioning hard when fixing problems. You only moved the lower right leg to the right, upper part is pretty much in the same place so now it looks broken af. Same shit with the right one but in reverse.

>>7649987
*Same shit with the left one

>>7649717
meep

how do people drawwwwww
aauuugh hoooowwww hooooooooooowwwwwwww

>>7649222
>ARM TOO SHORT
>LEG TOO BIG
>FOOT TOO SMALL
>TORSO TOO SHORT
>HEAD TOO BIG
>TORSO TOO LONG
>OFF BALANCE
>RIBCAGE WRONG
>HEAD TOO SMALL
>PELVIS OFF
>LEGS TOO BIG AGAIN
It never ends.

>>7649994
>It never ends.
you don't have to do it every time, but every once in a while slow down and take the time to notice those two dimensional relationships *in the moment*, not afterwards, and then apply them to your drawing. try to get it to a certain point of accuracy, not worrying about getting it done in x amount of time.

>>7649222

>>7650001
I try to slow down, just always seems like when I fix one thing, something else gets thrown out of whack. You're right though, I should think it through more carefully beforehand.

>>7650004
>I try to slow down, just always seems like when I fix one thing, something else gets thrown out of whack
I can appreciate that. sometimes you have to double and triple check. one poor measurement can multiply into large errors. for what it's worth, something else you can perhaps try is, again, making more concerted efforts while taking your time, but with a *portion* of a figure, as opposed to the full thing. obviously you'll want to do the full thing as well, but you can get good practice by reducing the complexity of your subject, say just the legs for one go, then in another accuracy/construction study the upper body.

Drawing under husband

>>7649522
I love the designs of them all, especially the one in the hat on the right

>>7649644
Niceee

>>7649659
I love the shine, so pretty, good job

>>7649684
Keep up the good work!! So impressive

>>7649717
Thank u
My nipples smile too, thanks for the representation

>>7649783
I like how messy but coherent and effortless it looks aaa your art is so expressive

>>7650002
I like it a lot

>>7650002

>>7650007
thank you my extremely talented nonnie, glad you like my stuff! i love drawing messy, it feels more fluid to my mind. beautiful husbando like always!

>>7650006
That's a good idea, I'll try that. Thank you.

i love drawing i love tv yayy

I love the former but not the latter

i love

>>7650007
hihhihihi XD
may your nipples always be happy :3
and no problem

>>7649943
Betrayed by my hubris once again

>>7650012
true, my goal wasn't accuracy per se but this should be better

Colours are done on the clown girls! I feel like it looks a bit less cohesive now but hopefully I can fix that

most of you only rag on people you're jealous of, it's obvious

>>7650068
artists are the most jealous kind of people

>>7650068
>>7650077
Jealosy aside. Who is the best artist in IC?

>>7650101
Everyone who's in the other generals. The ones in here are doomed.

>>7650103
trvke

>>7650101
unironically it was tableguy but he's not posting here these days, not even a competition. trad is a way more difficult medium to be good at than digital, especially with the scale of some of his figures being in watercolor. being a good digital artist is substantially less impressive than being a good traditional artist

>>7649222

>>7650101
Pawell remains undefeated.

>>7649193 (OP)
Nobody can calling me bad.

>>7650101
Favelabro.

Me

>>7650103
You're right, but shut up

>>7650130
Has he heard the news...

been reading too much bl lately
watched the song of wind and trees yesterday and it was pretty sad esp the twist with auguste
I don't think I'll ever understand fathers who hurt their kids
thankfully this particular drawing is non autobiographical

>>7650122
Pawell is now a happy wage pig

tfw drawing Moe like anon said but it's for a commission so I can't post it here... forbidden Moe...

Trying to draw anime heads from imagination.
I think I fucked up somehow.

Ahhhhhhh I hate it :((

>>7650148
you can make your masterpiece 10 years from now. do what you can, learn what you can, and move on to the next one, sis.

>>7650148
the guy in the black top is cute, his leggings remind me of like 2008 hot topic vibes

>>7650149
IDK man I've been at this for like over a year now and while there were some large gaps in that year, I don't think it's possible for some people to make enough progress in a decade to be anywhere near mastery
I'm hopeful I'm not one but I feel that I'm doomed to mediocrity, and anon might be the same way

>>7650148
MOGS ME.

>>7650146
Feel your face. Eyes have sock and are in crevices, your eyes are just bulging out of the sockets. Anime has them big but they have a place on the face that recognizes the brow. the eyelid creases are where the eyebrows should be on that face.

>>7649677
>>7649679
>>7649689

>>7650153
>IDK man I've been at this for like over a year now and while there were so
Okay give up, cut your hands off. What do you want us to say, it's good? No it's shit, you know it, but you'll make a lot of shit. Video games get everyone prepped for the beginner level to take no time at all and don't have patience. You're gonna be /beg/ for a while if you don't keep it up, so keep it up. Or don't.

>>7650153
>IDK man I've been at this for like over a year now and while there were some large gaps in that year, I don't think it's possible for some people to make enough progress in a decade to be anywhere near mastery
there are people who go to ateliers or academies and get very good well within 10 years. yes "mastery" can be a bit vague of a term and relative to one's particular aesthetic, I just mean "masterpiece" in the sense that it's something very high level relative to your own qualitative and aesthetic goals.
>I'm hopeful I'm not one but I feel that I'm doomed to mediocrity, and anon might be the same way
the only way to know your fate, if you are indeed fated to this or that, is to exhaust your options. until then, it's ultimately an assumption.

>>7650148
It would still be pretty bad but it would look 100x better if you didn't use scratchy chickenshit lines

>>7650146
Not bad for your first week drawing

>>7650153
>>7650148
>over a year
Not bad. You have retards like >>7650146
who cant even draw half a face while being 10 years into drawing.

>>7650153
>>7650169 Isn't me lol I only really get the chance to practice over summer when I'm not at uni and only working part time.

i tried working on my commission tonight but I unfortunately used up all my creative juices drawing televisions in JoJo poses so I guess tomorrow I will do commission work and for tonight I will die

>>7650172
nigger, surely you have at least 15 extra minutes a day you could spare. don't make excuses.

>>7650166
Im trying to go for a storybook quality but yeah my lines are not the best, do you think a bolder, clearer line would work better or just a cleaner pencil line?

>>7650167
haha talent totally isn't real guise lol

>>7650167
:(

what do you guys count as how long you've drawn? I've always doodled but only started trying to get actually get good a year ago. before that I only drew when I had a hyper fixation so would go like 6 months without drawing regularly and didn't study fundies

>>7650160
I'm just being a bit pessimistic just bc I'm feeling depressed, I realize that it does take time, I just feel like I should arbitrarily be making more progress in less time, but I recognize that that's just anxious//perfectionist tendencies and not realistic

>>7650163
well as long as I'm going to be alive I may as well right? if I don't I'll regret not having done it, and if I kill myself then I won't have to worry at all
so I'll just keep at it until I improve or die

>>7650169
no need to throw shit at ppl, My being not as good as I wish I was doesn't go away by saying other people are bad, if anything that just makes me feel worse
everyone is at different points in learning and everyone has their own skills and weaknesses that affect their growth and style, and it's not up to me to be the ultimate arbiter of drawing proficiency
if anything, seeing people worse than me makes me happy bc they're still drawing anyway, and that's just something that makes me feel something close to hope, as overly sentimental as that sounds

>>7650146
>24 years of practice
>for this
Bros...

>>7650175
I still draw here and there but in terms of dedicated practice I don't really have as much time for it at least if I want to still work on my other hobbies

>>7650148
drawing random shit is good fun, but if you want to improve you need a 'quality metric' to target
I don't know what is yours, but for sake of example, say it's something like pic related
you put them side by side, find the biggest weakness, and study that before doing the next piece

>>7650148
i really don't see what's so bad about this and why people are shitting on it, it's almost /int/ and clearly has a lot of effort put in

>>7650190
Actually good advice.

>>7650148
I’d add sharper light and make the foreground girlie more exaggerated in perspective
also
Play with highlights, gradients and filters, they make a nice difference imo

>>7650192
Because I'm the superior

why is so much of /ic/ hypersexual

>>7650203
this is a low-resolution question. if there's an adult art community with general purposes and allows for pornography, you can bet your sweet little ass there'll be porn - and not just a little.

cleaning up an old doodle.

>Be me
>Beginner
>Finally create a layer 1 sketch with just line art I am satisfied with
>Try to create another layer 1 sketch with just line art
>Brain fart.exe
>The moment I draw my character facing forward is when my lack of framing becomes aparrent and it becomes an assymmetrical mess
>Lines are more noticeable squigly tham when I drew the character facing away and whole face is messed up
Such is life

>>7650203
This is a red board, thank God. Otherwise it would be boring as fuck.

>>7650198
>>>7650148
This is bad because D tier redline faggot did a better composition. No amount of rendering or lighting will make it good. You are polishing a turd.

>>7650203
was never this hypersexualized, i'm guessing cause lots of people are addicted to porn these days, they constantly see it on their phones so it's more normalized. old /ic/ was much better at gatekeeping too, even anime fags got shit on a lot. big culture shift since covid, these days even lolifags and furfags have their own generals.

stacking up another doodle for the nsfw side account

>>7650203
why are you an hyperfaggot?

>>7650148
Draw them having sex.

>>7650203
Yeah for real bro, I am trying to pick up art as a hobby to avoid pr*nz not see it again

>>7650222
YOU KNOW WHERE YOU ARE?????
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGJEOHWKft0

>>7650203
artists have been hypersexual since the primordial soup my nig

>>7650225
those idols were for fertility worship, a lot different from coomslop

I was bored.

>>7650229
that's like some safe horny shit bro
fertility and fuckability are one in the same

You gotta give credit where its due and admit how pure permabegs are when they keep being mediocre year after year instead of resorting to cheap tricks like mamacojeet

>>7650243
>keep being mediocre year after year
Like you

>>7650243
what if I don't mind being mediocre because drawing makes me happy and studying doesn't?

last thread challenge

damn this thread is dead these days

>>7650156
Damn.

>>7650289
it went to shit after pawell left and tv obese deer troon started spamming his garbage

>>7650304
people can just ignore deer, he doesn't do anything besides post his work

holy shit I fucking love watercolours. It's so easy to get a cool soulful variation in colour. Now I just need to learn how to draw

>being mad at somebody who actually draws
nodraws will never win

>>7650273
shadows aren't dark enough

>>7650304
Deerfag is the one keeping this hellhole still breathing. Apologize.

>>7650315
t. deerfag butt buddy

>>7650315
she's the reason this place went to shit. get her out of the mix, and we'll enter a golden age

>>7650318
wrong pronous

>>7650317
this thread would die without him, he's the only person active with any consistency at this point. the day we lose him, the day this thread finally dies

Is there any escape from permabegness?

>>7650318
how is he the one who made this thread go to shit when 70% of posts are nodraw schizos fighting over arbitrary bullshit like talent and whether or not Nihu is using AI

Underwater painting
How is it

>>7650319
>wrong
gender theory is fundamentally flawed, so any conclusions from its premises can be readily dismissed. bio fems = women

>>7650325
>implying deerfag is biologically female

girl with 2 braincells

>>7650324
it's dope

>>7650325
an axe wound doesn't make him a woman

Ghost girls..

>>7650332
you have your type of tranny reversed

if you can't ignore and mentally filter out images you don't like you have the maturity of a toddler

*sobs*

>>7650339
well, baby does need his milk. and deer's milkers are looking quite plump *smacks lips*

>>7650339
yeah i do this
other anons complaining about it end up being more annoying than the original posters, they live rent free in their brain and they have to schizo rant about trannies all day

>>7650345
all they have to do is ignore him, instead they derail threads by sperging about him like retards and end up making the thread significantly worse by result

Okay, but what do you reckon deer's clit tastes like?

>>7650323
same schizo, now he moved to attacking deer again, tomorrow he'll talk about AI again, and so on
he won't post his work
ever

>>7650350
i thought he was a gay man, he’s a chick?

>>7650352
I think it's non binary but i can be wrong

How do you make breasts in very tight underwear not look fake?

>>7650353
how can u be something that doesn’t exist

>>7650351
he ruins every thread he's in and riles up any low IQ retard who's too stupid to realize he's using them to derail, he's who killed this general, not deer or nihu or permabegschizo

>>7650352
given the style, the subject matter, the desire for people to not mention gender but use "he/him" or "they/them" pronouns: all points to a chick with a clit

>>7650354
Well if they push the breasts up, it will make them higher and unnaturally round like breast implants, so you can't really. Maybe just tone down the height and roundness a bit.

>>7650334
sovl

>>7649957
>>7649987
Nothing is stopping you from redlining it yourself if it's all so awful. I'm trying to help an anon not crab up the thread

>>7649222
I'll be completely honest; I got bored of the reference and didn't care to sharpen my shitty crayola pencil. Anyways a response is a response.

Some more Hogarth Hands after a couple of months away from the drafting table. It feels good to draw again.

5 minute portraits, trying to learn to work faster

>>7649193 (OP)
Is this pyrocynical commission?

>>7649222

>>7650148
The way you compose with light and shit is very classical in a way and it looks very nice how it brings attention to the subjects. Look up how classical painters draw shadows especially how to make them more rich and deeper. And also you can make some background and "side"ground things shaded in the same way. But when you learn that deeper shadows will often hide some lack of knowledge of anatomy in some places so don't use it as a crutch and keep up with your anatomy studies and when sketching sketch those details even if they are going to be hidden by the shadows.

death to talentRATS

how do i make the jump from huston and hampton studies to gooner art

i want to draw fat bitches

>>7650148
I like it

>>7650216
Yeah with me

how do i render skin without overblending

>>7650352
Deer has a clit yes

Is.. is that a real f-female girl?!?

>>7650554
You forgot the *gulp*

>>7649222
I got bored so I mog.

>>7650534
How fat?

>>7650494

>>7649222
Nope. Ugly and none white. Fuck off and post an asian girl who looks like achild to get my neurons firing.

>>7650121

Some concepts for a blender project I'm planning on making.

>>7650592
I'm an idiot

Some concepts for a blender project I'm planning on making.

>>7649222
As a beginner I totally hate you and your challenge.

This one is really a nightmare no matter how many times I redo or try different things I never get anything right. Can't even think where to start working on!

>>7650002

Oh the schizo is back

did some faces, a could from reference the others not

>>7650590
verso sexo

>>7649994
Draw more space.

I baked and ate so many flapjack bars I’m crying
Drew this to vent instead of finishing the previous drawing boohoo

>>7650580
Nice. Tips for drawing water and other transparent fluids?

>>7650595
absolutely insane dunning kruger, gr8 b8 got me to reply. For any confused /beg/s, look up the difference between men's and women's femurs

>>7650623
2D drawing, 3 dimension trickery, after that think about the reflection on the surface of the 3 dimension. I am not good enough to do any tutorials yet.

>>7650625
U mad cos u bad

>>7650625
the redline schizo is right though
tibia is rotated
i actually want to learn from that redline schizo because i want to improve

i hope he does not go away

>>7650594
draw bigger, make 1 figure fit a page

the redline schizo is the same guy who got kicked from discord servers for saying he wanted to have sex with German 14 year old girls because they're "mature"

>>7649651
was about to reply to your previous post saying "maybe push the contrast" and you did exactly that, already looked great and now looks even better
>>7650148
wow.
>>7650198
I also enjoy this, added a bit of pizzazz while keeping to the spirit of ops style, great edit

>>7649644
being able to sketch/warmup with lines and movement like this is definitely a goal of mine

>>7649683
both are so charming and enjoyable to look at, hope to see more

may have bit off more than I could chew by doing everything I suck at in one go (odd perspective, more than 1 light source, clothes, machinery, furniture, exaggerated expressions, and from imagination. Aka everything besides a plain headshot) Any crit is loved and wanted

>>7650654
mad cuz bad

>>7650654
We should increase the age of consent to 30 for people like you, you are too immature. You now understand why there is low birth rate.

>>7650666
holy shit it really is you

>>7650662
no, it's actually the same guy
he confirms here, I'm not being schizophrenic >>7650666
he got kicked from multiple discords for age of consent talk and said that society makes German little girls capable of consenting to sex and that if the age of consent was lower in his country he would pursue children

>>7650668
Its not me

>>7650671
who cares, post his work

>>7650673
this is him, but he pretty openly traces >>7650580

>>7650671
That's not what he said, I heard from a friend, that he said if the society by law allows 14 year old, it means that culture is more mature. Does not mean all 14 year old are mature, and alluded to your maturity as a person that specifically for you, it should be 35.

>>7650680
you are talking about yourself in third person and your ESL syntax makes it obvious, do you think people didn't screenshot all of those conversations and spread them around? it's all logged

>>7650656
perspective is pretty weak, but I'd say the same thing as >>7650190

>>7650632
This is wildly unhelpful

>>7650468
>5mins
fucking hell you are good. How did you learn? Huston, Loomis?

the redline schizo isn't bad by any means but he openly admits to tracing in lots of portions of his work, that's why he says tracing is a good thing. he traces objects, compositions and dynamic poses

Holy fuck there's like 8 pieces posted in the past few hours with no replies can you fags shut up and contribute to the thread

>>7650156
So I have to draw a skull or asaro head there?
Know any artist that does a more realistic style for anime that isnt so much symbol drawn?

>>7650682
Definitely not me, but if you learnt to read between the lines you might find yourself less highly fed and lowly taught. Because you might, for the very first time, be educated. You can seethe all you want, 14 year old are still legal age in Germany. What you going to do, cry and complain online? I despise discord trannies and getting banned is my pleasure. Every person I interact with on discord mostly pathetic, on rare occasions I add a few friends. It's like searching for edible pieces in a cesspool of vomit,(you) however are not it.

>>7650676
>>7650692
hilarious to redline accuracy and trace instead
the level of critique this board deserves

nodraws left over from the tomboy drama pls leave

>>7650692
How do you even know redline schizo traces, evidence?

>>7650692
he can't even draw a box right >>7647775

>>7650709
he talked about it in discords a lot but he also said tracing is good on his critique of someone here if you need proof, it's last thread. he says tracing is good, unironically. it's on the critique of the guy standing by the pool
>>7649154
just scroll through the conversation, that's the proof you need
>>7650710
because he terminally traces objects

>>7650716
I see, so why so you care? You're a weird one aren't you?

>>7650718
giving criticism while actively tracing is bad

A new day, a new drama.

>>7650720
Why do you care? Is it because he gave you a criticism that you don't agree with or because you don't understand? Maybe you don't agree with the grading? What is it? Why do you care? Say it and be proud.

>>7650724
no, you didn't give me critique and you're talking about yourself in the third person

>Making the arm the size of the entire body
Damn.

>>7650735
Well, don't do that.

>>7650720
>he did bad thing therefore everything he does is bad
Insane twitteroid zoomer mind set. Just because you drew lines over other lines doesn't say anything about your knowledge of fundies.

>>7650722
the mods have decided to let schizos shit up the place so that people leave and draw instead

>>7650737
third person talking about yourself again. notable ESL syntax

>>7650737
I think tracing is not a bad thing. I encourage everyone to trace. It's a skill.

>>7650744
did you trace this >>7650580

Sleepy colors.

>>7650746
How you going to trace what I drawn, look at it, just look, those shapes are imaginary, I literally made it liquid and metallic at the same time. How you going to trace this? And even if I did trace, what is wrong, you feel cheated? Try tracing and you'll realize it is also a skill.

>>7650742
Meds.

>>7650751
he still traces

Pawell won

>>7650755
If you suppose you are better than him because you don't trace, then post your superior redlines.

>>7650750
you can absolutely trace and do something like that, do you think we're retarded? you don't even need to make an underlying sketch to do that

why are there so many pro tracing faggots on this board

>>7650770
tracing is good for practice

>>7650765
If you could trace and create something like my artwork, show me, I want to learn how you trace that, so I can become more efficient. KEK

>>7650748
Trace over my redline, understand the shapes and proportions.

>>7649222
too complex for a permabeg
i don't even know where or how shit is connecting
also has a bit of perspective to it
i can't draw this

>>7650772
remarkably shitty and unhelpful

>>7650772
Absolute KEK about that redline

>>7650776
You are right, it is shitty, but I think it is much helpful and useful than you might think.

>>7650775
Staying in your comfort zone is precisely how you become a permabeg you know.

>>7650785
looks like shit

>>7650781
you nodraws better watch it.

>>7650772
yeah bro you can't trace the shape of something and completely change it. completely preposterous
also this is one of the few good redlines so far, you guys need to be fair. comments like >>7650788 are clearly from drama hungry faggots that want in on the dogpile

>>7650789
Nice melty btw. You still fuming about your 14yo comments?

>>7650792
I'm having fun with the marker brush, I might hardround for /int/

>>7650787
my man i literally can't draw this without laughing at myself
but you're right that will keep me a permabeg

>>7650800
learn observation

>>7650756
This place without its CEO devolved into chaos and ignorance at breakneck speed after he left.

>>7650801
like observe the shapes of the body?

>>7650794
You still seething that 14 year Olds are making sweet love and you are complaining because you are immature and unloved? Have you considered changing?

>>7650794
"Germany women are very tough, and matured by the age of 13. They get things done. They like sex.

And can hold a conversation. Their culture allow it."
the words of redline schizo

>>7650772
>>7650785
>>7650792
Thanks, it's helpful, though the ears should be large, I also can't blame you for not seeing what I didn't draw...
I wish you had corrected rest of the clothing, I never got the collar 100% right, I'll try more later.

>>7650808
I see, draw the next one, the collars are fabrics, it folds, there's a lot of small shapes, you don't worry about the small, think of the big shapes first.

>>7650807
Burn Discord to the ground.

>>7650807
Oh no, Germany allows sex for 14 year old, ahhh all the cunny, bitch, Imma say this once, stay in your lane. You don't get to decide what a country do. You are ridiculously childish. 38 year old age of consent for you.

>>7650804
how to see references objectively so you can draw them objectively instead of how they look in your head
if you can do that then difficult perspective won't matter, obviously it'll still be harder but only because you might have already drawn figures without perspective

>>7650811
Let's not argue about discord, I'm done replying to that childish cunt. If you are a nodraw I ignore.

>374 replies
>114 images
>drawing general

>>7650819
oh i can do that for simpler objects
but curving bodies with these subtle changes throws me off

>>7650832
ic is just 70 percent drama and 30 percent shitpost

>>7650841
don't get hung up on details like that, when you draw observationally you should be able to find the points that make up the general shape and size of what you're drawing. then after that you can use the "angle glasses" to get more accurate curves

>>7650844
There are lots of great art in these threads. Don't generalize.

I want paige to smother me with her thighs

>>7650844
what about the drawings

Paige thighs
Paige small clitty

>>7650859
>>7650877
Relax Sis

>>7650882
I can't... Rentfree..

Next thread challenge will be Paige's micropenis in a chastity cage.

>>7650895
Based. I'll draw me licking it

I wonder what the latest derailer schizo hates so much about this general thread? He's been trying to terminate /beg/ for the last 4 or 5 threads at least.

>>7650807
Holy based I like his redlines now

>>7650895
we love her

>>7649193 (OP)
warmups (8x30s, 5x1m, 5x2m, 2x5m)

>>7650921
because he can't draw

>>7650921
he harasses anyone who actually draws because he doesn't draw

>>7650819
Do you have a printable version of this?

>>7650941
refs

>>7650819
Printable version for anyone who wants it:
https://www.dorian-iten.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/AccuracyGuide-eBook-v02.pdf

>>7650941
Based actually drawinGOD

>>7650921
>>7650942
>>7650946
He's the dunning kruger red-liner-fag wearing a chastity cage on his mangina. he doesn't have the balls to draw what he wants, so he shits on anyone who does.

>>7650958
notice that the people who get shit on the most are the people who draw the most

Is drawabox considered good or bad?

>>7650970
/beg/ here, actually just went through the first 3 "homeworks" today. First impressions is that this guy talks like a fag. Otherwise, these exercises seem to be very foundational, although boring.

I hope someone else who's been through the program can say more.

>>7650970
better than not drawing
worse than the source material (dynamic sketching)

>>7650970
For a prebeg, maybe a week or two of DAB makes sense. Anything more and you'll quickly run into diminishing returns. As the other anon said, go do dynamic sketching instead.

>>7650977
>>7650983
What's dynamic sketching? Googling gives me different results

>>7650986
it's from the asian guy

>>7650987
This one?
https://youtu.be/eaif0PpNMas

>>7650970
Only do drawabox and dynamic sketching if you have time to draw other stuff as well. Don't let them be the only thing you draw in a day.
>>7650986
Check the goddamned sticky

>>7650970
good if you're a literal complete beginner that has no specific source of inspiration to draw from as long as you don't waste the amount of time that the dab guy wants you to on the exercises
maybe it is bad if i needed to add all those stipulations though

>>7650989
yea

>>7650986
the practice of using basic geometric forms to sketch the natural world
norman shureman taught it to peter han, then han taught it to the drawabox guy
it was an intermediate course that got twisted into the 'draw a gazillion boxes' beg trap

>>7651008
I wouldn't call DS1 intermediate, it's pretty beginner friendly and doesn't linger on topics longer than it should.

>>7651010
it assumes a certain level of milage, in terms of observation skill and intuitive perspective
but I guess it depends on the type of beginner

Dynamic sketching is 700$ i'm broke, the video wasn't complete

>>7651041
it shouldn't be so hard finding a torrent i suppose

>>7651041
I was gonna link you to /dsg/ but I guess it's dead.
Search the archive for dynamic sketching general. You can find all of the DS1 videos on YouTube last I checked. There's also an /ic/ torrent that has all of the videos including DS2.

>>7651055
>>7651059
thank you anons

>>7649193 (OP)
give it to me straight bros\
is there any hope of redemption for me?
spent like half an hour on it

>>7651092
as long as you keep drawing theres always hope

i started draw a box years ago but didn't stick with it, now i will start dynamic sketching and hopefully make it

>>7651097
you don't get the point of drawabox
it was to attain total mastery over perspective on any and all shapes

>>7651092
Mogs permabegschizo so you are doing great.
>>7651095
Only if you have talent. JustDraw and no talent ends up with permabegs like Pawell.
Lacking talent then just trace AI.

>>7651099
why would you say this, i just posted a pic of an exercise i did awhile ago

>>7651107
most of us follow the instructions without thinking about the process
i only said that because you dropped it
so i assumed and i repeat assumed you did not understand the point of the study of drawabox

>>7651111
oh i see, i didn't understand what you meant.
i dropped it because i have no discipline and just didn't do anything for years.
i used to draw a lot as a kid, then stopped and i periodically try to get back into it.

this time i hope i can stick to it.

I went through and hid all the bait and troll threads. I now have 55 threads hidden. The state of this board

im in pain

>>7651097
Wtf. Do you not understand what the vanishing point is?

>>7651145
Me too. I have a cold sore in the tip of tongue that's ruining my mood. Can't even work well today.

>>7651147
not who you replied to but holy fuck same ive had the worst one on the inside of my lip for days I just poured salt on it to try to heal it faster which is agony

>>7651147
keep trying

>>7651097
The final boss of bad perspective

>>7651097
please do this digitally and see if you understand it better

does this look ok or at least hopefully going to get better
it's so tough but I think it's cute anyway

pain intensifying

>>7651173
Have sex with me instead paigey, you'll never have to work again if you just marry me

>>7651146
>>7651158
>>7651170
the exercise was to to draw the cube just by hovering (if it's the right word) over to the vanishing point, and then using a ruler to trace over what you drew to the vanishing point and see how far you were

i have one where i just drew using a ruler, i will post it when i get home

If the person who asked me how I draw hands is still around, this is how
https://files.catbox.moe/8gth09.mp4

Crude

>>7649222

>>7651197
is it a lot of undoing until you get the lines right?

>>7651204
did you watch the video? because yes, it is

Rarest pepe of all times lmao

>>7650595
On your level you should've already realized that sometimes good shapes are much more important than anatomical accuracy. "Broken" leg looks more dynamic.
>>7650772
You completely changed the style in this one.

>>7651184
here are exercises i drew years ago

Holy kek. I checked twitter and Tomboyfag drew humanized fan art of the GROK AI. Oh no no no

>>7651235
@grok is this true?

done with this pain

>>7651235
and?

>>7651235
thought he was going to quit

>>7651239
It's kinda ironic and funny. Given the timing

>>7651235
Let him cook

>>7651235
>traces AI
>now draws the AI waifu
pottery

>top of hat not round enough
>B hair ribbon thing not angled enough and second one is missing
>right foot needs to be angled more towards her right
>general anatomy

What else is there that would need fixing?
Also what are some nice ways to re-brush on construction(forgot most) and how do you guys learn anatomy? The arms and legs just look weird to me.

>>7651270
proof?

Just started this practice-study and I already want to abandon it
Should've used a different pose but I'm already too deep in

finished up my commission. what do I draw now

>>7651299
What you want. You're free now

drew a woman. i dont like drawing women

>>7651301
so more of the same gay shit I always draw yippee

>>7649222

>>7651235
https://x.com/Nihu77/status/1945890583932797364
>Check account
>Media tab is nothing but trend chasing and the easiest goonergraphic to appeal to. Footniggers
>
He can draw really well and pulls some amazing numbers though. Much better than other artists here.
For barely 4 months of effort he is doing great.
I also find it hilarious and disgusting that he shares thread with permabegs like these
>>7651302
>>7651281
>>7651275

>>7651306
nah youre not gonna get a raise out of me today for calling me a permabeg
back to favela you go to fuck niggu who you like so much

>>7651278
go back a few threads I cant be fucked to keep feeding you retards

>>7651306

>>7651306
only one out of three of those is beg enough for this criticism

>>7651306
The duck did I do

>>7651306
Nigga you don't need to engagement bait on 4chan. (You)s are not monetizable nigga

>>7651306
deerfag daddy sama...

>>7651306
Wtf. Why you gotta do them like that

>>7651302
Post ref?

>>7651235
>>7651270
>>7651306
https://files.catbox.moe/oble01.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/voqtht.mp4
i’d be really happy if i wasn’t mentioned here anymore

>>7651332
the head angle is fucked. good luck

>>7651340
then why would you post here in the first place nigga

>>7651340
>i’d be really happy if i wasn’t mentioned here anymore
Umm nigga hello?? You really think typing this phrase will deter schizos? You basically cut your wrist in shark infested waters.

>>7651340
Trace accusing niggers BTFO
I knew you had it in you Tomboychad

>>7651341
Lower head angles are a bitch to draw, it's either too fat or too narrow

>>7651340
>overlaying original image with the drawn one is somehow a perfect 1:1 just like that with not even a single difference not even a tiny natural difference
Yeah I aint buying it nigga, I read that people can hide those layers underneath while recording so I am just gonna go ahead and say you did that

>>7649006
>>7649044

>>7651353
Case in point LOL. Exactly as I predicted >>7649021

>>7651340
Can you do something that isn't a straight up 1:1 copy?

>>7651353
it really isn't hard to do if you're doing sight size and have those horizontal plumb lines to guide you
it's just one step further from drawing with a grid (not that there's anything wrong with either)

>>7651353
>someone makes even guidelines to copy as similar to the original as possible
>wtf it's similar you cheated

>to be worshipped in these threads you just need to draw latest trend as anime girl + feet in the same art style as every other Xitter artist
No wonder this favelamonkey is so popular

>>7651373
Bro, you lost, it's becoming embarrassing now. Let him go.

i liekedrawing

hey! anyone who is a paint expert, can you reccomend me some good books, vids, visual guides etc to get me started on painting techniques

>>7651341
>>7649222
>wide angle lens
More like the /beg/-killer lens.

>>7651377
Wasn't the anon accusing him I'm just tired of seeing you bootlickers constantly post about him advertising his Twitter
Buy an ad

>>7651384
lets see you draw it without tracing

I swear if this faggot makes new low effort thread as soon as we reach 500th post...

>>7651306
>>7651385
The obsession with that favelado makes no sense, you'd think it's because he apparently got famous but now he pulls normal numbers for random coomslop artist on X, so it's not jealousy over any apparent success.
Some people here got so buck broken by one hit tweet they're still mad even when the 15 seconds passed.
>free advertisement on /beg/ threads from schizos
Was it his 5D chess plan?

>>7651389
I'm not denigrating, I say this out of commiseration and experience.

>>7651390
i miss when deer made the generals, at least he did a collage

>>7651393
It's the thread's schizo he's been doing that since his pokemon post went viral. It's the same one who attacks deer and everyone who post drawings often.

>>7651395
Don't be so Niggardly

>>7651400
no its not the same person i help too

>>7651380
cute! markers are fun
are they alcohol markers?
>>7651383
can you all stop arguing and answer my question pls? to clarify these seem to be colour theory based
i see them talking about underpainting etc and i would like to learn more about the subject
also does anyone have reccomendations for painterly brushes on krita or csp?

>>7651306
Pyw, let's see if he should be disgusted for sharing this thread with you

>>7651403
james gurney colors and light

>>7651395
>I say this out of commiseration and experience.
lets see it

>>7651409
thanks brother

>>7651403
some cheap acrylic markers I got on Amazon (: definitely worth a purchase for fun doodling. thanks!

>>7651409
>james gurney colors and light
while googling for this book i also came accross another book he made called imaginative realism
what is the thread verdict on this book? regardless i may read that after i finish with this one

>>7651400
I fall into those who post often. I agree there is someone here who has just been all around nuisance to me too. He always has the same things to say, so I know it's just the same person. I don't get why he has been doing it for months at this point.

>>7651415
are they chinese?

>>7651400
i wonder if I finally had sex with him would he stop baka since he just. constantly posts about wanting to fuck me. deerfag takes one for the team ???

Thank God I don't want to draw anime woman, seems so tiring to do nothing but draw goonslop

>>7651419
this is WHy i am sure to take breaks off the internet and especially social media every now and then, i think it helps

>>7651420
here nonnie, they're 9usd rn if you're US based!

>>7651425
>draw goonslop
i know this is b8 but if something is drawn by hand it can never be slop, due to the time and effort put into it
i would argue that even deviantart quality pics cant be slop because someone actually put effort into it and on top of that everyone has to start somewhere

>>7651235
tomboyfag it's getting really fucking hard to defend you bro

>>7651419
>I don't get why he has been doing it for months at this point.
because he can't draw, he posted his drawings and it was shit, he confessed he just draws 30 min a day

>>7651431
i have my own set of markers and a few sets of coloured pencils they are alcohol though, how do alcohol and acrylic markers differ?

>>7651432
Porn is slop no matter how it's made

>>7651436
acrylic markers are filled with a light acrylic paint! so they go on top of the paper instead of into the paper. they're very fun to draw with, but you don't really color lineart so much with them unless it's thick/full lineart. they're wet when applied unlike alcohol markers and take a bit to dry

>>7651435
proofs?

>>7651438
dont alcohol markers have to dry too? i thought markers need to be wet or else they dont work
do you still need marker paper to prevent bleeding or do u use paint paper?

>>7651446
you can reactivate alcohol markers at any time with another alcohol marker! they're always mobile, they don't permanently dry because they're alcohol soluble. try it and see!
paint paper is better for acrylic markers than marker paper.

>>7651451
would dipping it in alcohol work too? what do you marker users do when they run out of pigment

i havent touched the internet for a bit, but i still been drawing! :DDD
here is a character i made who uses magic and i cant decide what pose i want for her full body shot, anyone got suggestions?

why do crabs, crab? Is it schadenfreude or sadism?

>>7651457
some markers have replaceable ink, dipping in alcohol also works for it. I'm coloring with alcohol markers rn and can show dry ink being blended if you want, sketch is nsfw though!

>>7651461
man just post it, you remember where you are
plus we are learning

>>7651464
do you see where I flick the brush over the ink on his neck and then the ink moves? the ink there is dry, you can wet it by lightly flicking it with a blender or in my case a cg1 or cool grey 1 to wet it and then it will disperse just like it did before it's dry.

finished that bara sketch up after that webm

>>7651495
getting better

>>7651473
i really appreciate you finally posting a top down vid of u drawing please keep posting more so i can study your technique
say have you thought about starting a yt channel where you teach?

>>7651499
thanks, I've been hearing that a lot recently actually! i wonder what changed haha

>>7651501
haha my fundies are too poor to teach anyone anything unless they want to be a speed drawer doodle monkey, maybe someday when I get good xD if you have any specific requests I'm always happy to take a recording and show you, hopefully one day ill be able to help more. i love markers a lot, i usually go really light on them because I draw on toned paper but they're so fun and so nice to use.

>>7651506
shut ya lying ass up bruh, if you were offering classes on
>colouring
>stylization
>anatomy
>form
>perspective
i would totally pay to attend

>>7651502
Probably because you added some shading so now it's looking more 3D

>>7651495
Whats going on with his dick? It doesnt make sense

>>7651506
stop stroking deerfags cock, shes a beg

>>7651512
that's really kind but god knows I wish I could help more xD hopefully someday ill be able to give you help that really helps when I get there. stylization and coloring I can probably help with now, though! perspective I'm very new to, gotten better but need a lot more mileage
>>7651515
I think shading really helps me yeah because I have no line weight with the pens I use so I can't indicate stuff in 3d well without adding some shape with values, thank you! trying to shade more often

>>7651518
hmm I'll render it out more ur right

>>7651523
i had a sensei tell me to stop thinking like that and he compared it to me running on a hamster wheel, even teachers can still learn, there is always room for improvement after all

>>7651495
What's with the drop in quality lately? Are you getting enough sleep?

>>7651532
depression and wanting to fuck the television
>>7651531
hmm, well glad to help whenever then

would rather be a beg who gets commissions and love for their work than an int who doesn't

>>7651536
>wanting to fuck the television
i took this literally at first and then realized "oh they are lusting after their tv head OC"
>depression
i feel that bro

>>7651545
ahhah not even an oc, canon character actually :p I'm comfort drawing tenna from deltarune because I love him and want him to rape me kinda (consensually) and drawing him helps with the depression

>>7651502
the subject

>>7651549
wtf you want fictional characters to rape you too? how based can you be

>>7651549
>rape me kinda (consensually)
You mean.. Just having sex? Are you zoomers all so fucking retarded?

>>7651559
>Are you zoomers all so fucking retarded?
Yeah they are.

>>7651559
I think it's like roleplaying, you pretend you don't want to be raped, so it's a rape but not really

>>7651556
tv instead of fat guys/monster girls?
>>7651557
desperately ahahahah he's the love of my life rn
>>7651559
the consensually thing was a meme like when you say killing myself (in Minecraft) in zoomer lingo

>>7651559
you realize that is a joke right?
>>7651565 has the right idea, its like when couples need to have safe words

>>7651532
Deersis doesnt get enough since I moved in and started fucking her hard enough to make her stepdad listen to her cute little sunshine moaning from another man's cock.

>>7651576
hey daddy why won't you just message me on t-twitter so we can talk...........

i feel like niggas get jealous of deeranon so they neg them
why not use artists that are better than you as inspiration instead? shit you can even reach out and ask for advice i am sure most artists would love to have someone who also likes art to discuss shit with

>>7651577
i didnt type this too busy drawing myself having sex with fictional characters

>>7651579
De>>7651580
erfag unabashedly loves drawing, which makes people who hate drawing but want to learn it for monetary reasons seethe. The cycle of /IC/

>>7651579
I think her art is very cool and want to marry her and support her and buy her fine pencils as long as she lets me deepthroat her italian-american clit.

My crackship is deerfag and tomboyjeet.

>>7651583
>her italian-american clit.
smegma

>>7651587
>crackship
woman detected

>>7651587
Not a crackship if it's canon, sis.

>>7651594
wait what

>>7651592
im actually a femboy, and when my parents arent home i put on jira kei make up and troll niggas on web cam sites by taking my shirt off and showing my muscles when they try to rizz me up

sex

where did everyone go? are you all erping with out me?

storking doodle

>>7651611
Hmmm shes to get corkscrewed by a stork for that wording ..

>>7651611
so cute and nice
>>7651610
idk daddy won't msg me on twitter to ERP

>>7651594
uh oh...

my drawing

>>7651596
>haha guys i'm actually a disgusting faggot
le epic trolle

>>7651341

I fixed the 2nd page, just minor details on the guy's face, for a better match with the other pages. Page 9 will be ready for the new thread.
>>7649691
>what a handsome fellow..
Thanks Tremor! You reminded me to fix the second page, I did some tiny changes on his face for consistency's sake.
>>7649691
>the way he's doubtful and explaining his actions to the listener/himself is very interesting, imagining alternate scenarios..
That's something that I took from the New Sun books. I have all of these "girls in distress" stories, but there was something missing in all of them for me. I didn't know that these "peril" fantasies could have "class" or something "elegant" attached, but it makes the distressing situation so much intense when characters are exuding "sensitivity".
>>7651473
Painting process??!! COOL!!!
>>7649717
>your comics for some reason remind me of the old fashioned ones i used to read back in the day
Thanks! I'm not a big comic reader at all so I'm quite crude in my "attempt" at it, lol. Maybe my amateurish style give you that sense of "old and early", I like those 70's, 80's european comics about crime and weird terror stories. I may be trying to imitate that unconsciously.

>>7651627
did you use loomis?

>>7651619
>>7651615
>>7651601
i went to this link and it seems like a honeypot at best

My modern art
>>7651633
Hmmm perhaps..

>>7651631
no

>>7651638
what do you use instead of loomis?

Nothing will change without talent, I can't improve, same old shitty figures

>>7651639
Justdrawmis

>>7651643
nigga if you dont stop beating yourself up
why are you internalizing that harmful crab rhetoric? stop letting that mental bully stomp you out, STAND UP BITCH
you need to understand that "talent" is just something that people who have already studied for years made up to seem cool
some people progress faster than others and that has to do with how they study, some people have better studying habits than others

>>7651442
see >>7651643

>>7651646
how about i draw a dick in your mouth bitch ass nigga GET DAT ASS BANNED

>>7651625
this begs the question, you won a tiny apartment in NYC and get to pick a room
each room has a roommate
one of them is a femboy and the other is a tranny
which one are you picking? and you cant reply without drawing a pic of how you two interact with one another, or how the roomate looks

>>7651649
>that "talent" is just something that people who have already studied for years made up to seem cool
Macacofag hasnt even been drawing for half a year and he is better than anyone else who have been drawing for almost a decade.
> with how they study, some people have better studying habits than others
>Yeah bruh. Talent doesnt exist. Talent is just drawing better.
Do you really believe this bullshit?

>>7651650
u sure this is the same guy?
>>7651616
not sure if ur shitposting, but having art friends to talk about art, niche hobbies and why dredge is a solid low tier pick etc would be so nice

>>7651649
I've been drawing for a year. I can't understand a simplified pelvis in perspective, turns with belly fat, sketches and easy drawings are shitty because of a shitty perspective, there are a lot of anons here who draw better in less time

>>7651658
as long as someone is an adult I will happily be their friend

Taking a break from drawing clown girls to focus on doing backgrounds/fix my composition skills since that was what my last piece seemed to struggle with the most, how does this look?

>>7651657
>Do you really believe this bullshit?
its why some people excel in school, their parents force them to bang their heads against the academics
its why my grades were better than my brother's despite us having the same cambodian genes
he was younger and they went easy on him while they made me do extra homework after i finished homework,
its not hard to understand: put in work and get results
and if you have good habits, you get better results
>>7651643
this anon is not even bad he is just mentally ill and has low self esteem
he seems to be getting a solid grasp on perspective though it could use some work, but once he got that mastered i feel that he would be gold in terms of figures

>>7651658
yeah, look >>7651657

>>7651639
I just think about skulls

>>7651611
>0 likes all platforms

>no new guro drawing with cut thighs and itty bitty clitty in frame
Don't tell me the jannies finally caught Paige...

>>7651677
doodles don't get likes

How to construct a good animu head? The Loomis method seems off to me for animu.

>>7651649
How about give actual advice?

>>7651660
what a self defeatist attitude
i feel like a parallel that i can make for this is fitness
some people gain muscle or burn fat easier than others a lot of people brush this off as "genetics" which i am slowly starting to realize is a cope and is probably their version of "talent"
the reason why some people gain muscle and burn fat easier than others is because they know how to build a workout routine that works for them, they make sure that their macros are in order and their calories are in the right range in relation to their tdee/bmr and they are consistent, you can even cheat and still hit your goals
tl;dr
>good programming
>good diet
>consistency

same thing here, you need to be consistent about getting knowledgable about fundamentals
when you study:
>obtain knowledge
>run exercises to solidify knowledge in head
>apply to actual work
>repeat
obviously the more you do this the more you will grow as an artist and you do not need to draw 8 hours a day to achieve good art or at least if you want commissions
art is fun, remember to have fun drawing

>>7651693
that is advice on how to think instead of defeating yourself before you even start
>>7651686
loomis *can* work for animu with a few modifications it depends on what style you want though, for a style like berserk, it can work as is
for a more moe style, fatten the cheeks and shorten the chin and give the eyes more space on the face while lowering them a bit

>>7651665
tips for doing backgrounds?
also this pic goes fucking HARD i always loved pics that had a big ass moon in the background
i love the moon so much
>>7651662
oh fr? where can i reach you bro?

>>7651693
imma advise a dick in your mouth
>>7651680
catcha dick in ya mouth
get that ass banned all three of you and paige>>7651671

>>7651671
>>7651627
what guidelines do you use, or are you at the point where you just imagine the guidelines on the page?
>>7651665
>clown
based i wish we had some clowns whose whole goal was to bring joy and colour to this bleak and dark world

I LOVE BEING A STUPID BITCH WHO WOULD RATHER CRY AND FEEL SORRY FOR MYSELF THAN DO THE WORK TO IMPROVE

>>7651711
I don't use guidelines when drawing from ref, I just look at it and draw based on what I see and what I know about heads/skulls
sometimes I do a rough block-in if I'm having trouble with the overall proportions

>>7651704
>and you do not need to draw 8 hours a day
Nowadays I'm facing a situation where I'm feeling guilty due postponing job to draw a bit more. Weird how I've fallen low.
>>7651686
First, choose a type of head you want to draw. Each anime style has a different deformation. Do you have any reference you want to target to? Post it.
>>7651660
>I can't understand a simplified pelvis
Does it help to know we are at the same boat?

yay i love drawing i love tv

>>7649193 (OP)
I have just now realized I really like drawing soles. After doing the outline I couldn't help myself and kept rendering. This is from imagination so it looks weird, maybe I'm at the time where I have to actively look for foot references to add to my visual library.
Anyways when are we gonna make a feet study general? I'd do it myself but being a complete /beg/ feels like everyone will just laugh at me.

anyone got advice on how to draw a hip bone poking out when drawing a skinny character?

>>7651746
just come out the closet and admit it, foot fag

>>7651751
Every healthy heterosexual man will naturally feel attracted to smooth, feminine feet. Do you also call everyone who likes big boobs a "boobfag" or anyone who likes cute girls a "facefag"?

>>7651746
advice on drawing feet so that they look like they fit on the rest of the body?

>>7651754
>Every healthy heterosexual man will naturally feel attracted to smooth, feminine things
fixed

>>7651759
You get it!

>>7651754
cope

>>7651757
That's what I would like to know too. Maybe after I do a couple more feet studies I will make a thread about it. Expect it.

>>7651769
honestly, i should study feet, i ususally just give my characters chunky shoes to cope for the fact i cant draw them
the main reason i havent studied feet is because of footfags but it really is a stupid hang up i wanna git gud

>>7651665
kino
>>7651709
seconding this post

>>7651754
based
so fucking ZASED

that's why most girl's shoes show the feet

>>7651791
there are plenty of male shoes that show feet too, get to jerking to those MANLY feet footboy

>>7651793
but i don't like MANLY feet ;)

>>7651785
>seconding this post
which part? trying to make art friends or the background part?
honestly, i feel like we should make a art fren thread where we post what we like and what we actually draw and drop info and maybe just chat ya know?

>>7651798
if i posted a man's foot and it was well maintained you probably wouldnt be able to tell (ur gay)

>>7651793
We are talking about actual luxury shoes women wear for special occasions and generally to look pretty, it's not the same as a dude wearing sandals for convenience.

>>7651805
Wrong again. Male and female feet are intrinsically different on a bone structure level.

>>7651709
>tips for doing backgrounds?
there's a neat tutorial by guweiz in the book Color & Light (the one published by 3DTotal, not the Gurney one)
pic related

>>7651805
bro i have more than 15 years jerking off to feet i'm an expert

>>7651799
the background part, i wasn't really following your conversation
>honestly, i feel like we should make a art fren thread where we post what we like and what we actually draw and drop info and maybe just chat ya know?
Sounds fun, i've honestly always avoided art servers and such since i've heard horror stories online about drama and hierarchies and shit. But i'm sure something smaller scale like what you've suggested will actually be pretty enjoyable, I could get behind it

>>7651822
>Sounds fun, i've honestly always avoided art servers and such since i've heard horror stories online about drama and hierarchies and shit. But i'm sure something smaller scale like what you've suggested will actually be pretty enjoyable, I could get behind it
i agree 100 percent the goal would be to duck discords and keep it kinda 1 on 1 yeah?

>>7651819
is it on e-hentai? or do you have a pdf?

killer queue is so long i get to doodle my wife raping me in between c:

>>7651832
omg I drew my husbando raping me too

it's coming along

>>7649522
I feel like the one figure in the foreground should be much larger than the three figures in the background.

I am not making it out of permabeg.

>>7651840
reminds me of the cover of yotsuba
>>7651834
based

>>7649574
One hand looks like it has all thumbs, the other hand looks it has four index fingers

>>7651854
except for the part where i will
MOMMA RAISED A SOLDJA NOT A BISH NOT A BISH
MOMMA RAISED A SOLJA NAT A BISH NOT A BISH!

>>7651865
looking good, like that you're upping the complexity
>>7651840
so pretty

oh I forgot I typed out this reply but the thread was a shit show so I didn't post it earlier
>>7650605
very cute piggy. is this your sona nonnie? i really really like it !!
>>7650602
paige kino .....
very fond of the more stylized face there
>>7650541
try limiting your usage of the blending brush as much as possible and making your rendering as hard as you can, a hard round or a sinix brush is your friend. t has to remind myself of this constantly because I terminally overblend and make everything too squishy. remember shadows are sharp
>>7650468
you have lots of skill. who was your fundies. pls answer

post the wildest dms that you got

A doodle to end the day. Good night anons.

>>7651739
I'll use this one as an example. I did watch this video which explained it a little bit. Would the eyes be lower than Loomis? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_aG0J0pwSo

>>7651686
You can use the rule of dividing the face into 3 parts that Loomis teaches, but the eyes instead of being the midpoint are usually lower and the eyebrows become the new midpoint

>>7651889

Thank, that seems like a standard deviation. What about a face for say this?

>>7651889

Weird ass cat

some drawing before going to bed
b basically procrastinating going to bed bc I don't want nightmares or tomorrow or the weekend lol

>>7651889
I only get cryptoscam DM's unfortunately.

>>7651991
true and honest

>>7650691
>>7651883
Thanks! I drew literally 1,000 Loomis heads as a challenge for myself once, copying every head drawing in Drawing the Head and Hands once from reference and once from memory, but I think the thing that helped me most was breakdowns of photos and other artists. I'll bring the reference into photoshop and literally draw a loomis abstraction on another layer on top of it, then hide the photo and copy the abstraction I drew, then hide everything and re-draw the abstraction from memory, and do that until I can get the abstraction accurate, and then draw the portrait. Spaced repetition also helps, so going back and trying to re-draw things I've already studied from memory to make sure the concepts stuck. For artists, it was Loomis, Huston, Weston, Finch, Chongmang, and Weichung for technique, style-wise I just recommend you look at artists whose style you want to emulate. Style-wise I like Frank Cho, Adam Hughes, and J. Scott Campbell for western comic style women, Robert Marzullo for big pillowy lips. For men it's the artists I already mentioned and Ryan Ottley. I think drawing along to Chongmang and Finch videos are the most helpful to learn the abstraction, and then you can do photo and drawing breakdowns. If I could do it over again I'd do more drawings from imagination as well, those really expose your weaknesses. If you want to learn challenging angles then do breakdowns and draw a bounding box around the head, then try to do it from memory starting with the bounding box. Doing some digital painting of portraits also helps to ingrain the idea of the planes of the face. I think the number one way to improve is to identify your mistakes, find out how other artists solve those problems, and then practice fixing those mistakes until it becomes a habit. Let me know if you have any more questions!

>>7652014
>1,000
It really does all come down to the grind

>>7652030
Ahem Pawell and permabegschizo and sharkchad and Cris and LunaticSoda

>>7652030
>>7652031
It's my opinion that you don't necessarily get better with the grind alone, but you can't get better without it.

>>7651918
Maybe I should kill myself.

>>7651918
Where did you get that one? I can't find it on his threads

>>7652045
it's on his instagram threads

>>7649222
trust no one... not even yourself

>>7652031
Ok it all comes down to the grind for those of us who aren't stupid and/or mentally ill

>>7652048
maybe I'm retarded I'll look again

>>7652053
Thanks for your honesty.

>>7652053
loomisbro here, desu it's not an iq thing, it's about your willingness to identify your mistakes and improve them. If you just keep making the same mistake over and over you won't improve, you'll just get in the habit of making that mistake. Lots of people are hardstuck in a video game rank because they never change their gameplan and just blame their team over and over. Not being able to look at your own stuff with a critical and objective eye is the death of improvement, but it's hard so putting stuff away for a while and coming back later is important, as well as getting feedback from better artists.

>>7652060
LMAO

>>7652060
you're describing the capacity to learn, which is very much an iq thing
just be glad you were born with enough to improve

>>7652060
>talent doesnt exist it is just (explains talent with other words)
Oh to be this naive to others' shortcomings

>>7652060
>>7650146

>>7652031
we've seen schizos break out of the rut here, in this thread

>>7652070
lmao.

>>7652061
>>7652062
>>7652063
IQ and talent will gate you from being the absolute best of the best, but with extremely rare exceptions won't prevent you from improving a decent amount.

>>7652080
>>7652031

>>7652072
we have

>>7652097
examples?

>>7652095
>stubborn permabegs who don't take advice exist, therefore I personally can never improve and won't even try
loser mindset

>>7652106
They are just fucked from birth.

>>7652109
ok? some kids are born with no legs. it sucks. Does that mean you never go for a jog?

>>7652101
>>7650748
is improving a lot after a year of being stagnant

>>7652114
Mogs permabegschizo and pawell already. Further proof that some just lack any talent.

>>7652127
it was sudden, he appeared permabeg until then, his art had been stable prebeg for a year~ before that

>>7652080
this is a story people with enough iq tell themselves, and helps them get through plateaus or bad streaks and push through
but there are people that are just too stupid and will never get better, be it at videogames or drawing or whatever
luckily most of those are reasonable enough to quit before becoming schizo

>>7652129
Isnt he the lizard rape anon? He went from prebeg to med-beg in just the two weeks this shithole was down.

>>7652133
exactly, that's what happened. so to say permabegs can't improve is irrational

>>7652132
xqc is one of the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet and he was a pro overwatch player

i have more admiration for people who are bad and keep trying than I do for people who are naturally skilled

>>7652135
In two weeks he mogged the other permabegs who have been drawing for years and even more than a decade.
That is proof of talent and that not all permabegs are permabegs but also that not everyone can improve

>>7652140
he looked like he would never improve, and he did. so clearly, this can happen to any of them

>>7652140
This is just the No True Scotsman fallacy

>>7652141
>>7652143
Survivorship bias.

>>7652144
no, he was one of the worst off. if he can improve, anyone can

>>7652145
>>7650146
I would point Pawell, Sharkfag and Cris but they havent posted in years

remember when people used to claim perilfag was /beg/? kek

>>7652148
his appeal is /beg/, that's all that matters

>>7652148
they didn't understand the vision

>late night america hours
>nodraws and dumb arguing about bullshit
/beg/int/s of SEA please save us

>>7652147
sharkfag wasn't even bad, he was just lazy as fuck and comfort zone drew.

>>7652161
he kept drawing those weird noses, even though everyone said it looked retarded. huge sign of a ngmi

>>7652162
>stylistic choice
>ngmi
just means he stuck to his guns

>>7652162
Some people are too untalented to learn.

>>7652163
yeah, and look how that turned out

Maybe I should just trace. I havent gotten anywhere with more correct ways.

>>7652060
>>7651704
I read the sub r/smalldickproblems, genetic determinism is real, although it is strange to compare it with drawing, I still have apathy and unwillingness to look at people after finding this sub, maybe I will degrod

>>7652168
i have wondered if tracing would help me with visual library and learning construction for a while