>Singlehandedly ruins your creative freedom

You can still draw whatever you want. Just mot profiting from it. I find that liberating.

>>7650616
>Just mot profiting from it
crypto

>>7650628
Is this the actual reason? The illuminati is trying to push crypto and profit from it somehow?

Artists have been dealing with this for decades. This is nothing new. Go back to/v/, tourist. Quit being a lolicon while you are at it.

>>7650612 (OP)
Good, coomers are subhumans and deserve nothing.

>>7650634
>Go back to/v/
>Quit being a lolicon
you can choose only one

>>7650628
Wake me up when Crypto is stable and pay something in less than 2 clicks

>>7650616
How the fuck im gonna pay the bills and eat then

>>7650612 (OP)
I have been using Monero for a few years now but that's because I do lolis and don't want to risk getting doxxed

>>7650628
Not with those fees, also it's not convenient for normies.

>>7650616
underage or delusional hobbyist begtard?

>>7650816
Does using crypto really profitable ? Did people really used it to pay for porn ?

how do japs solve this problem?

>>7650628
most people can't even be fucked to deal with it to GET money, what makes you think people want to jump through hoops to give you money?

>>7650634
>>7650638
>>7650616
God when did artists become such cucks, they used to fight for creative freedom against govs and corpos and now they're all either apathetic or actively call for censoring "problematic" content

>>7650851
>it was real in my mind
artists were the strong arm of government propaganda since the dawn of civilization, what the fuck are you even talking about

>>7650851
>just create your own payment processor and convince everyone to use it so you can draw shotas in peace

>>7650856
They were also oppositors of government censorship, or you think Japan has lolis and hentai because of their government's goodwill? It's because manga publishers have sway and artists spoke out

>>7650875
God I wish I could, but the problem runs deeper likely: if the banks and credit cards are the ones pressuring you straight up can't create a payment processor because you need deals with them

>>7650612 (OP)
didn't you make a thread like this last time?

>>7650897
...japan is literally more censored than the west and they're not doing shit to fight it
unlike in japan, you legally can draw uncensored loli/shots in the west, you can't even show adult genitals in japan sexually

>>7650907
Exactly, governments are evil and if artists don't fight back they'll censor as much stuff as they can

>>7650934
...but the countries with less censorship produce less porn than japan

>>7650950
Because Japan has always had a very active doujin scene where most porn comes from as well as porn mags

Western publishers are too afraid to do porn mags and there aren't events as big as comiket

That's why money is important, and why internet platforms that allow content and to profit from it are also important

Internet is the closest thing we have to comiket

>>7650612 (OP)
You've forgotten paypal, which is just as bad.
Anyway, financial institutions should have no say over businesses or their conduct, outside of legality.
Frankly, I think what they've been doing should in itself be illegal, and I'm shocked that government have stepped in and bitch-slapped them yet - particularly Japan, since they've been the ones most effected so far.

This is an easy public win for politicians too, who wouldn't be happy with dicking a financial institution over, and stopping them from dictating what we can and can not buy?

>>7650612 (OP)
Make a simple sfw inked pin up.
Then, Make the porn.

Sell the pin up. Once the transaction is finalized, send the porn via private email or whatever the fuck.

>>7650959
you are severely mentally deficient and keep destroying your own arguments

>>7650965
Politicians hate porn and love when it gets fucked over, it's better for them if companies do it because it's hard for them to do it themselves through law due to free speech and privacy railguards

Porn has bad public rep, hence why corpos stray away from it

Bro i fucking tried to draw big boobed woman. I almost puke. It just isnt for me. When i kill myself im gonna scream "VISA AND MASTERCARD DID THIS TO ME" before my blood was splashed onto concrete floor in middle of a city crowd.

>>7650616
Have fun flipping burgers so you can "draw whatever you want"

>>7650825
They didn't. Especially DLsite who had to do major changes when it comes to a few problematic "tags".

>>7650875
Doesn't something like Liberapay solve these issues? There are a million workarounds to most problems but normalfags get all demotivated when the easiest solutions (habits) get thrown out the door
>>7651007
I consult at 300/hr for a couple hours a week so I can draw what I want.

>>7651009
DLsite just cut off from westerns completely and bringing back those tags. We just simply cant see it. Their antivpn is too fucking strong

>>7651043
I have no problem accessing them with a free VPN

>>7651127
sure but its a hassle

>>7651130
Kind of but not that much, since once I buy a work I can access it in the library

>>7651134
Sadly normies just simply cant do this thus cutting Dlsite revenue by half

>creative freedom
>porn
genuine skill issue

>>7651148
Those sculptors from 1500s gonna eat you if theyre alive

>>7651140
I won't blame normies too much, people shouldn't have to jump through hoops to buy porn when everything else is a click away

>>7651153
>they can't eat you cuz they dead
skill issue
shoul've specced for immortality

>>7651161
Their works are literally immortal due to creative freedom

>>7651164
Blame the jewish controlled adult media conglomerate for enabling human trafficking

If you were 18 you'd actually understand what i'm saying

My creative freedom remains intact. Just say you're a pedophile OP

>>7651166
Also since i got all the time in the universe:
Adult industry transactions are considered high risk because:
>high refund % or failed transactions in general
-Many people either buy porn and refund it to not get found out by their spouses or are forced to cancel the payments/refund by their partners
-many kids use their parents credit cards to get access to pornography, which leads to more cancelled transactions and refunds
>lots of pornography "studios" and amateurs are involved in human trafficking
which broadly includes the unconsented release of footage, rape, shitty work conditions, forced contracts for porn actors, and else
>Pornhub cheese pizza scandal of a couple years ago almost managed to completely destroy the banking system
-lots of people upload actual cp on adult sites to monetize it
-lots of minors recorded themselves and put it on PH to make money
-Indian gang rape videos were a thing
-You could find decapitation, mutilation and gore on there as well
Meanwhile all able to make money off of it because shit was still under investigation
After the incident PH completely reworked their partner and payout system and payment processors now have to be extra, extra sure you're not some kids, a pedo or otherwise a criminal uploading illegal content.

If you were serious about your "creative freedom", you'd call up your credit card company, tell them what you offer, show them what you do, convince them you ain't going to post illegal shit or sell porn to kids and you'd have nothing to fear.
But you're all minors, third world faggots or actual tranny groomers, so of course you bitch and moan about not being make money with your mental illness, because if payment processors wouldn't allow any kind of adult content, porn wouldn't be still raking in money and all your nsfw artists, your doujins, your pixiv fanbox goon also wouldn't exist.
>b-b-b-b-but loli is just drawings IS NOT FAIR
drawings of what, nigga?

>>7651191
>drawings of what, nigga?
A drawing. The sentence stop there.

>>7651196
>hehe a drawing
>smugsoijak.png
good job, bot
never fail to engage

>>7651205
Its a drawing, nothing more. Japs understood this well, I understood this well, why cant you ? You need help anon.

>>7651209
>pro-loli bot reply #2
boring as fuck
get new scripts

>>7650612 (OP)
qrd?

>>7651211
Mindbroken.

>>7651191
In the end if you wanted to treat your pornography creation as a business, no one would hinder you because in the end you're making money for them and ideally paying taxes, so there is no reason to keep you from receiving money.
Of course as long as you obey the laws and don't cause problems for payment processors.

Retards on twitter screeching about canonical age of characters are not the porn authority, you just have to understand and follow the law. It really isn't that difficult.
If you want to sell a 1:1 fictional replication of a real child and hope to get away with the
>it's le FICKSHON!!! omg just let people enjoy things
Then i still don't know why you aren't attempting to monetize it if you can epic argue your way out of legal trouble.
>but le grorious nippon
Move there then.

7651191
7651225


Lol the retard keeps malding. Go back to X

Anyone ever complaining about banks not letting them make money is either a convicted felon or a future criminal or underage or/and chink/huemonkey who is desperately depended on western infrastructures.
There is no other way around it.

>>7651191
>>7651225
What the fuck are you talking about processors are literally fucking websites like DLsite and Patreon over drawings

The refund argument is just delusion: they would just cease business with porn if they were losing more than they were gaining and not try to censor specific type of content

Also CP gets uploaded to all social media but only Porn sites get treated harshly because of it

>>7651233
Watch/Read Minority Report

Tourist thread.

>>7650612 (OP)
You mean capitalism? Yeah we know already.

>>7651191
>drawings of what
people that don't exist doing things that didn't happen, same as most drawings
>noooooooooo your drawings of aragorn killing orcs inspires genocide or something so it's like it's real
don't care, not my problem

>>7651240
>refund argument bad because [insert strawman here]
Porn is big business, but a lot of porn sellers get a lot of refunds and the minority of the porn market makes up the majority of profits
>also cp is not an issue because it just isnt ok?
Businesses need to adhere to the rules if they want to make money.
Porn sites host a lot of content so they have to be careful about what they let people upload, hence why any responsibility for the content uploaded has been shifted to the uploader instead of the site as of years ago.
>but muh patreon
Really shows your age and ethnicity if those are your go to money making sites
>inb4 tell me where i can make money then
Nah, suffer and die
>inb4 that mean u dont know u lie poopyhead bigot puritan
As i said, i already know your age
>>7651245
>le epic movie reference
Yeah anon, you should totally walk into a lion's cage. Ever seen Dr Dolittle?
>>7651263
>noooo [insert more strawmen here] they dont exist
Porn is a different beast from genuine art
Learn the difference first

Hows Shadman nowadays ? Hes literally the gaddafi of porn artist

No wonder all these gooners cry about not being able to make money when they can't even make an argument without doing every type of fallacy and seething beyond human comprehension

lmao

>>7650825
JCB and other domestic payment processors in Japan aren't trying to manage global risk, they only have to care about Japanese law.

US cards are all global (even AmEx and Discover) and so they're trying to least-common-denominator everything.

You can actually have such shit on your website, you just will start to eat massive fees from either the main CC companies or using alternative processors like PaymentCloud. Or monero/crypto as already stated, it's probably easier because there's no hoops to jump through with paperwork and other crap.

>>7650851
Half the people on this board are tribal-brained retards (thirdworlders) and snooty authoritarian dickheads (europeans). There's also a contingent of american artists who have an attitude that mirrors the fundie "anything I find repulsive should be illegal" brainworms regardless of their actual political affiliation.

>>7650965
>This is an easy public win for politicians too, who wouldn't be happy with dicking a financial institution over, and stopping them from dictating what we can and can not buy?
>>7650978
>Politicians hate porn
They like to use it to assert more control over the internet. To destroy anonymity, control messaging, suppress information, terrorize dissidents, etc.

>>7651043
DLsite has always been the shittiest one though. They have the most stringent mosaic requirements. Hentai forums used to be pissed off when people would share the DLSite version of a doujin because it was almost always the worst quality in terms of the pOnOs and vagOOO being pixellated with giant minecraft-sized squares.

>>7651191
>If you were serious about your "creative freedom", you'd call up your credit card company, tell them what you offer, show them what you do, convince them you ain't going to post illegal shit or sell porn to kids and you'd have nothing to fear.
No because they still have to account for lowest common denominator international rules, as I explained earlier in this post.

Go back to /v/.

>>7651279
Theres no point anon. Arguing with them is pointless. The only way for you to be heard is to be the next Luigi.

Until then i dont give a shit, i will draw anything i wanted, Even if they gonna force me to starve to death. I will keep drawing. Even if my drawing looks like children to """"""them""""""" i will never stop.

What exactly is going on this time? Is /ic/ being raided again?

>>7651279
>Petite woman exists you kno-
>NOOOOOOOOO THEY ARE CHILDREN THEY ARE CHILDREN REEEEEEEEEEEE
>Provides evidenc-
>NOOOOOOOOO THEY ARE CHILDREN THEY ARE CHILDREN REEEEEEEEEEEE

The only way is bullet on their head.

>>7651290
>No because they still have to account for lowest common denominator international rules, as I explained earlier in this post.
And you just don't have to create any sort of replicas of children.
It really isn't that difficult.

All these epic argumentators believing they can outwit any arguments by lying and otherwise being faggots, can't figure out how to navigate the law?
Ah no wait, they just know how to strawmen for their ultimate goal of receiving replies and deluding themselves people are angry twitterites because that's exactly where they come from because the opinions of trannies and cunts on that hellhole lives """rent free""" in their mindbroken rotten brains.

>>7651295
No, just the usual lolishitters who also spam /v/ religiously trying to avoid reality and calling it trolling when they can't win arguments through fallacies and insults.
Add chinese gacha shills, underage retards and brazilian pornfags to the mix+ pornfags who feel threatened

>>7651295
Just the usual "it makes us look bad if you use a card with our branding on it to buy pervy shit online" excuse to ban anything they dislike and bully people.

>>7651191
>drawings of what, nigga?
This question is immaterial. The actual content does not matter as no humans are abused in the creation of it. You do not need model release forms or anything of the sort when drawing imaginary characters, because characters are objects.

>>7651225
>If you want to sell a 1:1 fictional replication of a real child
>>7651308
>replicas of children
This kind of artwork is extremely rare, and even then in most cases it's not a form of "washing" actual CSEM through the process of drawing/painting from CSEM as reference, but some cringey "cartoonified version of a real child based on public photos", like when Shadman drew Keemstar's daughter. It's gross and a grey area of law but you can count the amount of people who have done shit like this on one hand. And I don't know of any who have been prosecuted for it. I'd wager some dumbfuck noname hick drew porn based on some children in his neighborhood to keep in his house and got the gavel thrown at him or something when his neighbors found out he was doing so, I don't know. That's usually how those edge cases happen though. Not interesting in digging for it.

>>7651273
>Porn is a different beast from genuine art
Only when real models are involved. Actually, depending on where you are working/selling you need model release forms for certain kinds of non-pornographic art too.

>>7651274
He went insane from drug usage and was arrested for assault because he was wandering around waving objects at people threateningly.

>>7651314
>emotional argument
Companies don't give a flying shit about how it makes them look as long as they aren't losing money.

>>7651316
>>Porn is a different beast from genuine art
>Only when real models are involved. Actually, depending on where you are working/selling you need model release forms for certain kinds of non-pornographic art too.
that's not the point i was making
Pornography is of direct use to the consumer which appeals and pander to their specific tastes.
It isn't a thing that is vague or up to interpretation, it's just pure and raw consumer product that serve a purpose.