If you are a /int/ermediate or /beg/inner in art, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice.
DO NOT REPLY to crabs, nodraws, talent debates or howies and instead focus on posted works!

>STICKY:
Completed: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Vm4IJpq0Mbvb-Krl5_mJ_m6TsC_qjsaN/view
New collaborative: https://hackmd.io/UMnZVhNITW-T2wZpHw6d0Q
w/ic/i: https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/
Hardcore: https://hackmd.io/7k0XRnIQR6SValR77TDfZw?view

>WHERE to get study materials
annas-archive.org
>>>/ic/artbook
>>>/ic/video

>Want to practice figures?
quickposes.com
sketchdaily.net
characterdesigns.com
lovelifedrawing.com
posemy.art
line-of-action.com

>PYW and give your feedback
What can be improved?
Are there any resources videos or books you'd recommend to them?
Maybe a redline or a technique, be specific.
Try to reply to someone as you post your own work.

>Cool teachers
Glenn Vilppu
Michael Hampton
Steve Huston
Brent Eviston
Marco Bucci
Andrew Loomis
George Bridgman
Hikaru Hayashi

>Cool books
Keys To Drawing
Drawing With the Right Side of the Brain
How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way
The Art and Science of Drawing
Framed Perspective
Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
The Complete Guide to Drawing From Life

Previous: >>7652683

first

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>1 year

Pawell??

I wish

dead general

i got horny drawing her lol

I'm here for just that one post

>>7655828
Sweat or wetness please.

A new one gets posted just as I post on the non-bumpable one yaya

>>7655835
good idea actually, thanks!

15 min.

>>7655859
Draw it again until it's correct.

>>7655805 (OP)
We're all gonna make it...

>>7655870
mogs me

>>7655870
overflowing with /beg/soul

>>7655859
1 year and hasn't even learned to copy references so that they even resemble the reference. How?

what do you guys think of these?

>>7655828
why are her shoes too small for her?

>>7655859
>1 year of drawing
>spending 15 minutes
>for this?
yeah unironically give up

>>7655886
This is my biggest and blackest doompill.
If you dont know how to copy you will never learn how to draw.
Toddlers when being taught how to write are made to replicate letters and numbers over and over and over and over tracing them, drawing inside shapes, making them with soup and shit, filling entire books with letters. They even sell dedicated notebooks for infants to learn how to write.
The same goes for drawing.
If a child never learns how to write the letter "a" correctly, can you expect them to have readable writing or even know how to write?
No.

Of course that some get it right off the bat, some can make up very beautiful and elaborate handwriting, some can forge anyone's writing and some never learn cursive but still...

ITS 26 DEGREES CELSIUS INSIDE MY FUCKING HOUSE I CANT DRAW LIKE THIS FUCK SUMMER FUCK SUMMER FUCK THE SUN FUCK THE SUN FUCK THE SUN

>>7655887
see >>7655827

>>7655901
thank you i watched it i'm trying to practice now

>>7655898
I don't expect to be able copy well right away, but 365 days of trying and shit barely even looks like the ref

>>7655906
You just need to correct and refine and measure more.
Talentfags are better at it naturally but if you lack it then nothing but constructing more and spending more time at it.

>>7655898
christ i never thought about it like that. how are copylets so mentally deficient? this russian guy has to not be drawing very often for any of this to make sense.

It's really that bad... I just feel bad that I started all this.

>>7655912

deer is fine, active on twitter, for people who were worried.

>>7655911
Pawell's disciple... I'd feel bad for him, but he is the one that's been crabbing and bullying everyone else here

All this is pointless

The day I found the hide channel

365 pointless days...

those days when I drew according to his exercises

>>7655859
Anon, I haven't posted on here since 2019 and only started lurking recently again so I'm ignorant of what other exercises you might've tried but I think it would be worth it to try using a grid, it'll help you better understand where everything is placed, I don't think freehanding is doing you any favours or helping you learn much right now, also tracing can helps loads too. Just find an artist you like and trace their stuff until you can freehand it/copy it without a grid, much easier on digital though.

those days when i drew from hampton's book

>>7655859
This is the anon that's been crabbing (you)
This is why he never posts his work

Those days when I drew on morpho...

to receive insults for drawings

Can you go get droned in Ukraine instead of shitting up this shit thread further Ivan

>>7655892
i made her feet too big, also hair. i think i'm blind or smth.

some practice and something for (Nya) >>7655828

>>7655940
anon a more serious question is why is she wearing the shoes in the pool?

I'm really upset, I thought that after... now it's really pointless

>Crab not so tough after being humiliated and crabbed himself
You reap what you sow. I wonder how many better artists you have crabbed away from this place

>>7655886
>>7655896
Draw it correctly with precision

Trying something new.

>>7655942
she's not very smart, also i find it sexy

>>7655948
I hope so much, I expected something different from you, now everything seems meaningless to me

this threads are not very good because you guys ignore people who ask for advice and instead just talk about each other like 70 year old grandmas gossiping

>>7655941
you doing great, keep it up nya.

>>7655948
You will still criticize any of my drawings.

>>7655955
Too bad your actions had consequences, unlike all your days of trying to learn to draw

>>7655959
I tried, now they throw shit at me and tell me to quit.

>try to follow tutorials on proportions and head shape
>somehow zero improvement with the same perspective mistakes as before
>publicly humiliated in the OP
where do I go from here

>>7655892
fixed it a bit

>>7655942
maybe i should move her on the beach? That would explain the shoes she's wearing right?

>>7655948
qrd?

>>7655962
Haven't you been doing the same thing to everyone else. Don't act like you're the victim here

>>7655951
>correctly
nope i cant
>with precision
i also cant.
but I could mog russian fag spending 15 min on it

>>7655974
You're literally the bottom of the barrel

For the first time I clearly tried to make a drawing, make hair, eyebrows, eyes, mouth. For the first time I got an improvement, for the first time I liked my finished drawing, and at the same time they continued to offend me. I have been drawing for a year, but in total, taking into account all the time applied to drawing, it is unlikely to be two months, after all this I do not want to draw, to receive only nastiness in response, I do not want

>>7655859
>>7655968
This is the guy responsible for bullying deer, tomboyfag and countless others all this time

>>7655976
No no thats russianfag

This is what I think about human muscles

>>7655981
whos that?

>>7655974
So you're not better than me

>>7655965
Keep drawing and never post your work here, post it in places where people give actual critique and feedback

>>7655978
KWAB

>>7655986
who are you?

>>7655965
what are you learning from the tutorials exactly

>>7655980
tomboyjeet deserved it

>bullies people off the board
>is surprised when people aren't empathetic toward him

>>7655991
You are retarded

>>7655965
My boy you've only been humiliated in a niche Mongolian beef jerky forum
Take the crits with a grain of salt and move on

>>7655998
same to you

I wan to kill myself, I should also at least try using guidelines qدq

anyhow, can the anone's here send me stuff to draw I don wanna spend 5 hours on pinterest

Where's the thread challenge bruh

Drawing a summer spot in Kyoto for my husbando to chill
My anxiety is through the roof rn and I keep catching myself rushing for no reason. I like backgrounds but they’re v overwhelming. Does anyone else have the same problem with rushing/anxious for no reason when you try to make a more complex piece?

hmm

>>7655996
This. The guy might actually be genuinely retarded or have aspergers, if he has no understanding of social cues like that. Does he expect people to just be okay that he has been bullying people for the past year here. Like wtf

fixed the foot

well not as accurate as i wouldve liked it for 13 minutes but it still mogs russianfag

>>7656010
now you will hate me? I can't do anything, I just want to draw but I can't, everyone criticizes me

Are Michael Hampton’s courses good?

>>7656013
Oblivionmogs the russianfag to the deepest niggerhell

>>7656013
Congratulations, don't insult me

>>7656013
are you trying to become a xerox or something

>>7656016
you're a vile person, i was happy when i thought you stopped posting here, but sadly you have no friends and need our attention

>>7656016
>>7656021
What made you insult everyone else then? You can dish out insults but can't take them at all

>>7656022
>xerox
a what now?

>>7656022
nodraw moment

>>7656026
do you not have a google gen-a

>>7655859
Guessing this the tread challenge. Took about 30 mins

>>7656035
Russianfag on copium BTFO'ed into oblivion

>>7656028
cool larp mate

cant you niggers fight in a discord or something

>>7656005
You drew that? Damn bro good job
I don’t get anxious but I do hate spending too long on one piece, makes it feel like I’m wasting my life away

>>7656035
>take portrait photo
>displays as portrait photo in gallery
>posts as landscape
technology has become so fucking bad

>>7656023
I want to draw like everyone else, but I can't, I draw very little, perhaps less than everyone here, I want to draw, but I can't do anything, I envy, envy is bad, but here everyone insults each other, I know that it's bad, but people themselves are bad

>>7656037
>didn’t deny it
keeeeek

>>7656041
Insulting is not the same as chasing people off the board MOTHERFUCKER

as my last repost, remember, that at least, I was not a total copycel. only somewhat of one.
sayonara, my brothers.

>>7656045
You won deerbro

>>7656041
Take it from the guy who did the verso Pic in the last thread. The advice here is mostly right but if you're too sensitive to get critiqued and not autistic enough to keep grinding and listen then this might not be the place for you. It has helped me more than any gay reddit thread so I reccomend you grow a pair and stick around

>>7656041
You are not a really good person. You know that right? There is no justification for all the shit you have done and said to people here

>>7656024
I didn't kick anyone out, I don't communicate with dirfag and tombafag and haven't mentioned them for a long time

>>7656045
literally who?

>>7656054
How new are you

The absolute state of this thread

bro begs for pity but ain’t got no empathy for others. that’s crazy

>>7656041
You threatened to rape someone and mocked other's depression

>>7656058
lmfao

>>7656052
I think there are other bad people here, I was just trying to protect myself

>>7656056
that's the state of the whole site man

>>7656055
newer than you

>>7656013
i gave it a try as well
i think 15 min?

>>7656062
lol, lmao even

>>7656066
russianfag on life support rn

>>7655987
>>7655999
thanks anons, I am not going to give up

>>7655992
I was trying to learn how to draw faces that don't look like pic related

I'm going to give the thread challenge a quick try then spend the rest of the day following the 3 hour head tutorial from a couple threads back.

>>7656062
So that's a concession. Protect yourself from what? You just bullied people for no reason. Don't try to justify it

>>7656060
I never threatened to rape anyone, I complained about dirfag as a "talented scum", "cunt", that's all, I complained about tomboyfag as a "talented scum" it's bad, but, it's really bad, but I really shouldn't have

>>7656013
>>7656035
>>7656066
based

>>7656075
dont forget you called me a brown fat fuck :3

>>7656075
Insanely bad look...

Why can't I do anything... Only filth from the side

>>7656004
okay, here. Thread challenge, something cute
>https://line-of-action.com/

>>7656084
I'm tired of it all

>>7656004
ignore last poster, its this:
>>7655859

>>7656091
I think this thread would benefit more out of practicing the whole body rather than drawing the same head facing forward, but I actually don't care because you're dogpiling that one annoying guy

>>7656094
we are all here to shit on that crab nigger so lets all mog him

>>7656094
Truke

>>7655859
Lole
I did better than you while handicapping myself with a dried out pen

>>7656095
Here is also a bad person, don't blame me... I have been drawing for less than a month in total.

>>7656101
no, it still doesn't look like it

>>7656101
absolutely based
>>7656102
>dont blame me
after bullying people for months on end ? we shouldnt blame you?
>I have been drawing for less than a month in total.
dont change your statements now, stupid ass russian nigger. do me a favour and go serve your country and die on the frontlines

>>7656105
Mogs the shit out of you Lil bro

>>7656106
Dude started backpedaling when he got rightfully blasted by everyone

>>7656106
You are the offspring of cattle, you are the first to call each other names, kill yourself, scum, rotten creature, you constantly humiliate others regardless of their actions, stupid creature, I have not kicked anyone out of here

>>7656101
Who the fuck takes a picture like that?

>>7656107
Kys, creature, it's no better.

>>7656112
Sorry you seem to be talking to yourself.
I've never bullied anyone but you, you deserve it, you are rotten to the core.

>>7656105
Only her left eye is way too high brother, and I did it with way less guidelines than you kekw

>>7656107
Hehe >w<

>>7656112
HOLY
ESL

>>7656117
I don have another phone or camera dummy >:[

>>7656118
>>7656112
Cope more. You shat your bed now sleep in it

>>7656101
cute hands post more

>>7656124
Then just take a picture with your back camera and state your time haha. What the hell man. Dont make it harder on yourself then it needs to be. Your drawings decent though, very disney-esque

I forgot how to draw

>>7656119
So you're a hypocrite, I haven't done anything that the scumbags do here? Why did you turn on morality for me? Do you know what kind of place this is, you're a son of a bitch, create drawings that won't be humiliated and oppressed, you scumbag
>>7656126
stab yourself, it's no better

Fucking bastards forgot who they are and where they are, and suddenly decided to turn on morality and start bullying, bastards, over these months I rarely posted 1 gray picture and you bastards didn't say anything until I started touching you creatures

>>7656070
>>7656013
like 15-20 minutes

if you look really close you can see the OP image on the reverse side of the paper bleeding through

Уёбищa eбaныe

Spent an hour on this

>>7656001
would sex

>>7656136
>>7656141
You sound indian but act like russian. Grim stuff...

>>7656144
Bы никoгдa нe cмoжeтe pиcoвaть :)

>>7656151
You prove that you are worse than me, nit

>>7656148
i would spend an hour kissing your cute lil lips

>>7656143
For some reason, nits and cattle don't mix you with shit, hypocritical creatures as always

>>7656144
it's eбaнныe, шкoльник

>>7656143
Another fine addition to mog collection. Good job

>>7656165
He drew worse than me, nit, you can't refute it.

>>7655983
brvtal

>>7656143
KEEP GOING PREBEGS
KEEP DRAWING UNTIL HE FEELS LIKE HE MADE COUNTLESS OTHER ARTISTS FEEL
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>7656168
Atleast his face has all it's features in the right place. Unlike you

>>7656174
No, the head is stretched with the face and eyes

niggas think they doing something like be fr

The nits in the previous threads never said how to draw the pelvis in a simplified way and attach the legs to it, you won't get anything from them

Just sketchin today.

>>7656156
love this

>>7656141
Confess your crimes, i know what you've done

>>7656187
Иди yмpи гдe-нибyдь в кaнaвe yжe ты никчeмный хлaм

>>7656174
in honesty, my practice schedule has been extremely erratic until recently, sometimes taking weeks/months off in between practice. Of all the drawings and studies I've done this year, 1/3 of them have been in the past two weeks. That's not a good thing for practicing any skill in life, but it was the choices I made with my time.

>>7656191
Kys, you scum, if you can't give any other advice.

The creatures will now blame me, what damned nits they are, vile scum, no help from these creatures

can we have 1 schizo at a time and not like 3

I was always right about these scumbags
>>7656202
Scum

BLOODY BLOODY BASTARD MOTHER BLOODY YOU BLOODY YOU BLAME ME BLOODY BLOODY

>>7656200
you killed deerfag

>>7656173
based
>>7656089
poor girl got her spot taken
>>7656143
cute

>>7656101
ahwww
>>7656094
we would i agree
>>7656090
booo

>>7656208
I don't care about her

>>7656089
its very cute

I was right about these nits, these creatures were deliberately torturing me like that, the bastards

>>7656173
C-can I participate?

>>7656217
mog

>>7656211
Scum

one schizo dies and turns into 5 mourning its loss

russianfag on copium clinging on to life, debating his last reason not to sign up to vladimir putins fuckboy army and get assfucked, but he cant think of a reason now he's been complety outmogged by all of /beg/

>>7656208
What made people obsessed with deer

>>7656216
>>7656206
Good morning sir! Do not redeem the draws!

>>7656214
that's super cute

>>7656224
The star of the crab shines brighter than the heavens

wtf is a nit

>>7656089
I did
Here
>>7656148

>>7656127
My fingers are covered in eczema kekw

>>7656132
But then how will it be obviously real that I didnt lie . _.

But one time I did try to draw in a Disney-esque style once for some disabled girl i knew but it just ended up looking like anime

>>7656150
Wah!!?

>>7656217
da da da da da nit, go to hell, scum. You are nits. You are scum, you have not helped me at all. You nits call others names and do not let them bully you. You are hypocritical scum. Scoundrels, ihihihihihihi, cattle

>>7656228
woman

>>7656235
damn youre 17? dont you need to be 18 to post here?

>>7656227
Cut yourself, nit

>>7656238
where does it say shes 17

fucking creatures, the more that leave here the better, as that anon complained

>>7656228
his 30 shit drawings every thread

>>7656241
On her twidder Xema page

>>7656244
pawel...

>>7656238
W-who's 17? 0m0

>>7656240
Nit this nit that, how about you nit yourself a Noose and do everyone else a favour

>>7656214
I love the pepe

>>7656248
Good drawing advice, how should I treat you after this?

>>7656241
That's a man.

>>7656237
There's no proof

>>7656241

>>7656248
fuck off underage retard

>>7656241
Anone take ur meds no one is saying anything about the number 17

>>7656254
Like I'm a spec of gold but when you look closer it's actually dirt

>>7656255
Yes, wanna see my pp

The cattle again advised nothing but rotten wishes, vile nits, I'm right about them

>>7656262

>>7656266
I bet she's into real kinky stuff

:^9

>>7656266
Unnecessary arrows, I lov it

>>7656263
Wheres the underage anone??

drawing board btw

>>7656273
you have your age in your bio. please fuck off. it is not safe for you here. you are a child and this thread is full of pedophiles

>>7656266
would kiss

>>7656266
all girls discovered here are kinda weird but i'm incel so i'd date every single one of them

Also how do you finish a drawing that you dont have the reference for anymore?
This has been sitting in my sketchbook for years unfinished because the car I was drawing off drove off before I could finish

>>7656278
Retarded ass anon thinks this is a drawing baord

>>7656273
wanna play ZZZ with me?

>>7656268
>>7656283
>>7656285
Keep your hands on your pencil and out of your pants lads. Women are a hivemind that will make your life worse and make you hate art (if you dont already)

thank god that cunt and her simps got banned

>>7656290
Sorry anone, I deleted ZZZ because it was taking too much space on my phone...

>>7656292
Holy shittu, ur the smartest one here

Deerfag leaves and another pops up. Will it ever end?

>>7656301
at least deer is a grown adult, this is a literal child and you people are pedophiles

no one ever actually posted what deerfag looks like either, so it wasn't this bad

>>7656089

>>7656303
When you're a pedophile you can become president of the United States.

KEK I forget to block out my online handle on some old photo and it derails the thread this much

>>7656312
YOU ARE A CHILD. STOP FUCKING POSTING HERE. fuck off. you are a fucking child. get the fuck out of nonce central.

did some more fiddling with character designs, trying to get a feel for the main five characters
first two looked decent and then it deteriorated due to exhausted mental energy

I dont think I can make it out of permabeg guise...

u can really see where I stopped focusing

>>7656313
shes less than a year from the legal age

and the last one, he looks a little ridiculous but I feel like there's some promise here for an attractive older man

>>7656316
just have fun

>>7656317
i can't...

How is it possible to put so much soul into a single sketch?

>>7656303
17 isn't child

>>7656322
it's at the very start

What do you guys think about my first attempt at using FireAlpaca?

>>7656320
Paigey... marry me..

>>7656325
Milk

>>7656325
2 buckets of sovl for me

>Find drawing by amazingly talented anon drawfagging
>"Got a blog?"
>"Maybe someday!"
Holy fuck HOW. How are you this fucking good and not rake in thousands of followers. FUCK. I want more of their art but they are random anons with no name.

>>7656331
you don't know me and if you did you wouldn't want to

>>7656353
it's okay i'll get to know you and want you even more

>>7656089
Anyway did the challenge in under 20 mins

>>7656362
just noticed she's standing too straight wahh

>>7653124
Page 10 done!
>>7655828
YYYEESSS!!!!
>>7655941
Excellent shapes as usual!
>>7656066
Stylish as fuck!
>>7656101
I like the upper face, it remainds me to Loish style
>>7656156
Good old mecha cutie! We need more of that!
>>7656188
Best in thread maybe?
>>7656217
This is great, very very good

>>7656385
nice drawings, but where are the boobs

>>7656352
anon... that's them not wanting to dox themselves on 4chan

>>7656089
Just something quick to warm-up.

>>7656404
She's setting the stage, let her cook

i did this in the morning

Some figures

>>7656424
cute but this style of chicken scratch is kinda shit

Now i gotta do the other girl yayya

The reference also

>>7656442
you gotta do me next...

>>7656101
>smartphone

>>7655147
Tried adjusting the armpit and torso. I feel like I'm making her too muscular now lol

>>7656457
It bled...

>>7656465
Do I look rich to u anone?

>>7655887
PLEASE GIVE YOUR HONEST OPINION ABOUT THE ORGANIC SHAPES
PLEASE GIVE ADVICE

All four of the sticky links the OP go in different directions what do I doooo

>>7656483
Way better than the last ones^^
Only criticism I can give is that they're a lil bit wobbly

Is it better to use the normal ball and plane method where the nose goes on the cross, or the divided ball and plane method?

>>7656485
thank you very much anon, i will work more on them tomorrow but they finally look decent after hours of work.
i just couldn't wrap my head around them until i watched this guy's video
https://youtu.be/Kojda48YXTQ
all the other people (peter han and random youtubers) would just say to do the countours without going into detail.

now i can finally sleep, good night everyone.

>>7656489
i'm not sure what the difference between the two is but i don't think either method is good, i never see pro artists (mangakas, character designers...etc) draw like that so i just asusme it's not a good habit to pick

Night guys, let's try not to bite each other's heads off tomorrow

Didn’t even finish flat colours and already playing with filters like a retard love that for me but I like the light so far

I feel like I'm mindlessly copying it rather than drawing a replicatable process

>>7656483
Draw fruits to understand orangic form

Where do you guys usually find nice ref pictures for poses? I tried Pinterest, but everything looked so boring and samey.

>>7656537
Use the sticky. I forget but there's one in there for patreon/onlyfans leak of cos play whores. Men...there should be something there too

I was tired of just grinding fundies and went for a story I wanted to make, turns out I need to level up my everything game but especially my bg game, even simple 'expressionist' manga bgs are a chore to make but trying to figure out how to make them is pretty educating, there are just so many hidden processes in making an apparently simple image that you only find about when trying to actually make something

>>7656515
no, the biting will continue as planned. Otherwise someone might draw something

>>7656571
2 down, one left to go

>>7656520
I like that you redrew the sketch as a french woman

>>7656554
Holy fuck. Blog?

>>7656089

>>7656385
thanskies xD

cant wait till the next one :3

>>7656404
i ate them

I'm sucking really bad at both divided ball and plane and just normal. I don't know what to do.

>>7656520
learn observation before construction

>>7656442
You're pretty good, sincerely. I woud like to draw legs as well as you do.

Can anyone explain to me how i'm supposed to censor stuff for pixiv?

I posted the pic attached onto my pixiv and It got privated by their system or whatever because I broke one of their guidelines. I thought nipples were fine, but not genitals.

lads this is my best try on a digital drawing, I hope that being so focused helps me improove, i'm starting to lose my mind tho

What i did today?
Render the chest and boobies, some changes on the face, added bettter strong shadows and tweaked the stockings making them shynier

>>7656682
close up un face

>>7656089
An attempt was made.

>>7656686
You had the right idea with the envelope method, why did you stop doing it once you laid out a general placement? You should have kept doing it until you get down to placing details, not rushing it.

>>7656608
Blog?

>meds have dulled all feeling
>can’t even use coomerbrain to encourage drawing
bros… idk if im gonna make it

>>7656682
Good shit dawg

>>7656686
Good boxing the figure, I’d suggest studying construction

>>7656678
if what you posted is this, the problem is the picture of the model. Take it out and post just the drawing.

>Prohibited Post Content
>Illustrations, Manga, Ugoira, and Other Images
>Images that are primarily real-life photographs, regardless of the use of filters or photo editing

>>7656695
I see, thanks anon!

>>7656682
Lmao your shading is all over the place with the chest and right arm looking really fucking good and then everything below the abdomen being lackluster and the hair being barely there.
Did you get bored?
Other than that I would say to fix the face because the eyes are misaligned, the lips are parted in a very bad way, the cartoony eyebrows really dont fit her and the tongue colour seems too saturated.
You just need to apply yourself bruh. There are parts in your drawing that show you know how to do stuff.

>>7656682
How so you paint a chest like that?

Can someone tell me if I'm doing this correctly? I don't know how to draw hair that well from this perspective either. I'm having trouble with basically every part of the process.

>>7656713
>>7656713
post reference

>>7656715
I don't have one.

>>7656716
why not?

>>7656716
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5AV42mgAe0

>>7656718
I'm trying to make something on my own. I don't really have any references to use.

>>7656597
Thank you! There you have a WIP on the next page =)
>>7656404
Don't worry in the next panel, we're back on the anatomy class, with the doctor to assist.
>>7656516
I truly love this, 2000's Visual Novel vibes. Perfect.
>>7656554
h-h-hot...
>>7656678
This is nice!

>>7656484
depends on your goals
broadly i'd just suggest prokos drawing basics
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtG4P3lq8RHHMNwxuVk0IcGRtPGHi4vN9

>>7656718
I'm drawing a character of my own that doesn't have a reference yet.

Still WIP
>Has never shaded a person before award

>>7656484
do >>7656719

>>7656720
>I'm trying to make something on my own
you've accomplished that, where's your issue?
>>7656724
you've also accomplished this, to answer the original concern, yes, you are doing this correctly

>>7656729
I'm following the correct method of drawing the head with the circle and the cross in the middle?

me

>>7656721
YEEAHHHHHHHHHHH
here have a kitty in return
i really wonder what your inspiration for your style is
>>7656590
nice

>>7656689
I guess my brain just short-circuited.
>>7656693
Thank you, I'm trying to get the Dynamic Bible.

just one of them nights

angsty shit bc I'm a fucking retard

>>7656713
no, you're not supposed to put the face on a ball by itself to make a head

>>7656730
yes, as long as your goal was "drawing a character of my own that doesn't have a reference yet" and also, "I'm trying to make something on my own"

>>7656741
That's the only method I've found that works for me. Other artists friends of mine use this too.
>>7656742
I've heard other people telling me that I should use the divided ball and plane method and not the one I'm using. I like the first option better.

>>7656744
ah well if it works for you i guess i just can't critique you at all even though you fucking asked us for critique

>>7656746
I asked for if it was a usable method. I can't do the divided ball and plane method for shit, I never know what I'm doing whenever I use it. This other one is simpler and easier.

Working on this pose rn, gonna do some hatching as well, need to practice that

>>7656747
well your filename was divided ball and plane method, not "only ball method i made up", and it doesn't matter if it's easier for you if it still looks bad.
either way you aren't going to be able to make a good looking face if you don't know what the features of the face look like, so you need reference

>>7656750
The divided ball and plane is too complicated for me.

>>7656734
Mr. Kitty, you are difficult to draw. What do I do with all that fur?

>>7656752

>>7656709
yeps, It is still not finished, thanks for the advice lad, I'll do some tweaks based on it, the reason why the chest is so better than the rest is beacause I used a reference of it, from now, I will apply on the other parts of the body based on what I got

I moved the eye/eyebrow trying to align with the other one, I should be better now,

>>7656712
references from pinterest and try to mimic them basically

tomorrow I will continue her just to make a final product

>>7656744
>I've heard other people telling me that I should use the divided ball and plane method and not the one I'm using. I like the first option better.

if your goal is to make something that doesnt exist and also doesnt exist through reference, then why would you need a method or be concerned about proper use of a method?

>>7656757
How about stop being a smartass, twisting everything I'm saying with this pseudointellectual nonsense. Am I using the correct methods to construct a face, or not?

>>7656760
im literally helping you, you are doing it right

>>7656761
How about stop being a smartass, twisting everything I'm saying with this pseudointellectual nonsense. Am I using the correct methods to construct a face, or not?

>>7656760
>>7656762
tf is going on

bruh how did you make him meltdown by telling him what he wants to hear

>>7656764
I'm tired of retards trolling around. Am I using the correct method or not?

Bros I tried to cleanup the sketch and fucked up the face beyond repair.

>>7656763
Howie motivated himself to actually draw. He's your problem now. Enjoy!

>>7656768
post it

>>7656772
No. I dont even know how I fucked it up. Like sweet Jesus above.

don't create a social media for your own good

>>7656772
its so fucking bad holy fuck and I was hyped for this.
She looks like a fucking frog.

>>7656089
oh god

>>7656774
>>7656783
just post it pls i really wanna see, i can’t give u crit if u dont post it

Reply if you need help, will grade and redline.

What do I fix besides it being stiff

>>7656799
Do u take stuff from the last thread?

>>7656749

Thinking if I should color it

ACK

Done, I spent way too long on this

>>7656713
That looks like a good start, though keep in mind: if the face is facing to the right (our right), there should be less room left over on its left side (our right).
If you don't know what to do for hair, try google images for a reference.

>>7656814
Thank you so much

>>7656798
People will laugh at me...

>>7656814
Retard giving retard advice

>>7656824
He's giving retard advice to another retard. It's fine.

>>7656826
True

>>7656823
it can't be worse than what they did to me

>>7656829
pyw

>>7656831
>>7655805 (OP)

>>7656836
Your art has brought people enjoyment (amusement), that's more than can be said about my stuff. You won.

>>7656734
I don't have an inspiration really, I'm constrained by the low resolution (1000px in height), so I do what I can with that I have.
The size of your canvas affects your "style", that's for sure, you have to adapt. I'm sure that if I work in a +10000px canvas, or on a big piece of paper with inking tools, I would draw much more different. Much of the stuff that I posted here I can barely recognize as mine many times. The style adapts to the medium? The medium conditions the style? I just wing it most of the time lol
Have another panel! and thank you!

>>7656725
Nice work anon! I really liked the process stage >>7656470 the subtle detail lines on her torso, pretty nice actually. Art it's not just a "finished thing" but a frame in time that for some reason looks particularly good, like that WIP of the torso.

>>7656385
Wow thank you

Tried to fix the pose some. Balance was wonky

>>7656854
Thanks
I actually liked it at earlier stages too but I was kinda set on making it a more "finished" piece just as a short-term goal

A few more figures of people, fucking flat shit, sometimes it's pointless to rotate a simple torso shape because it will sometimes give the wrong angle, in place of the pelvis you have to draw some unrelated scribbles, in any case it doesn't give perspective. The arms and legs are also flat, no matter how you move them, there's no sense of depth, the composition doesn't match either, fuck, there's no common depth and perspective, all the normal figures I've seen have it, fuck, how do you make it? In other figures you can feel this commonality, that they are located correctly in space, I'm tired of it

I understand how to draw a cube on the ground (ie lines parallel to the ground) with 3 point perspective, but how do I go about drawing a cube that's rotated to where its lines aren't parallel with it? Like say it's balanced on one corner, where I go about placing the vanishing points? Image related.

As a second question, do I just guess a cube in perspective is a cube is even using vibes or is there a more precise way to do it?

How is this painting i did
Took 2 hrs

>>7656922
'ery nois
>>7656903
https://handprint.com/HP/WCL/perspect4.html#cube

>>7656922
i...........

>>7656903
you can open blender and reverse engineer the answer to all those perspective questions, and you can get cubes with the use of measuring lines
but just like there are plenty of beg traps, formal perspective tends to be an autist trap
it's more important to develop an intuitive sense of space instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NijDzUGNVfQ

Freaky old weirdo stares at his bottle of ichor

>>7656934
Thanks, if I had to guess I'm probably going to be an autist about it, I'm taking linear algebra in the fall just to better understand matrix multiplication for 3d rendering.

>>765692
I wanted to say "it's the GOAT" but it's clearly a ram and I couldn't think of a funny ram pun

>>7656941
gyaaaaatt

>>7656922
hello fellow aminal painter

>>7656802
Draw fresh.

>>7656980
:[

draw along to the first hour of the steve huston head construction lecture
I had so many real life distractions that it took me many hours of real time to get through 1 hour of lecture
will continue tomorrow, and all week at this rate

>>7657009
keep on keeping on!

everything seems to indicate that you really need knowledge of anatomy even to know how to shade /s, well somehow I sensed it some time ago but I didn't want to see it, I watched a Stephen Bauman course to understand why I needed to study facial anatomy, it was very good, I improved my control of spatiality on the canvas quite a bit since the last time I published here, the final shading was to prove that I don't need to use references to do a simple shading, although I value the contribution they give in lighting or difficult poses. My brush work is still pretty bad so I depend on the airbrush in one way or another, I also have some control in the development of edges to communicate the transition of the shape so it doesn't look so bad

ok this is maybe a really stupid question but for physical sketchbooks are you supposed to use both sides of the pages

>>7656963
Hello there
That's a beautiful painting of a bird

>>7657036
Yes, but that depends on the medium though. If you're using wet colors, oils, acrylics or lots of inking the reverse of that one page will become unusable.

>>7657038
thank you aminalGOD
i should probably add a background though

>>7656554
this is exactly my type of shit please continue also blog?

>>7657036
Usually it is fine to draw on both sides. If you wanna get your money's worth, you might as well draw on both sides.
Some mediums can bleed through to the other side, so it might look weird. Dry mediums can rub off onto the other side and make it messy too. Sometimes the paper has a smooth front and rougher back too, you might notice it feels a bit different to draw on. Some people want a cleaner or presentable sketchbook, so they only draw on one side.

>>7657036
I draw on both sides so my sketchbooks last longer, i just use pencil so it wont cause problems

>>7657036
you should want to but, like the other anon said depending on the paper and if you're using ink or wet materials the reverse side of the page will be hard to use
another thing i think matters is drawing position. i'm right-handed so i find it harder to use the backside of the pages with the sketchbooks i've used so far, but with a coil-bound book you can flip it over and i find it easier to draw that way.
my recent sketchbook i got though has the coil-binding kinda uneven at the bottom and makes this hard to do though

>>7657048
>flipping the sketch book so you are always drawing on the right side of the page
that's something I honestly hadn't thought about

you guys got any good refs for female hands/arms?

>>7656776
>dont post your art anywhere
Why?

dead cope general.

>>7657133
the smart people went to Discord and Twitter to post and share their work, its only the schizos, shitposters (me) and circlejerk foids who are left, what did you expect?

>>7656854

oh interesting :o
hmmm yeah true, when i used to have krita my style looked way different
based and thanksies :3

>>7656754
ahahahahaah
make little stripes like dis: see pic of really fast kitty

or as this anon makes cats.


>>7656853

>>7656807
looks very decent, but i would make the head smaller or the body bigger

>>7657106
cute

>cant draw heads
>do loomis
>cant draw heads
>watch mark brunet
>cant draw heads
>copy heads autistically
>cant draw heads
how do i recover from this

>>7656554
KINO, keep going
inspired me to draw some too, but I ran out of time to finish the woman, so here's an ambiguously aged man for now

Is putting moon runes in the filename the cheat code for guaranteed (You)?

Good morning, anons.

My wife said she can't imagine an apple, she can't imagine anything visual. Yet she can just draw my portrait out of boredom sitting next to me, can draw silly pictures with animals purely from imagination, everything with perfect proportions, likeness and confident lines. All with a pencil or a pen too. She doesn't even draw regularly, she draws like once in a year when she is bored.
It took me months just to be able to sketch something vaguely resembling a humanoid.
And you will tell me talent isn't real.

I'll start studying legs, arms, head and face, and drapery, I'm already tired of shitty figures. Maybe I'll practice with forms in the future, I hope it will work for a pose for figure drawing

Got btfo by this study

>>7657233
it looks close enough, youre never going to get 100% accuracy

>>7657233
What do you think “study” is?

>>7657242
Copy the image I want to learn to draw then overlay it and compare so I can train my observation skills as they are quite poor

>>7657219
Someone said, books like Betty Edwards or Dodson’s Key basically try to bring you up to the starting point of those “talented” kids. They just have better eyes and hand-eye coordination naturally. You and I need to train it (drawing from observation).

>>7657185
Very nice

>>7656089

Here's my problem.
>Try to draw
>Medication like my paroextine makes me too shaky and unmotivated
>Stimulants also make me shaky
>Even on a drawing tablet that's digital it's really hard to get around this
>All I want to do is get back in bed and look at my phone
>I can only draw when I get less shaky, AKA when my medicine wears off
>But by then I'm too unfocused and can't do anything.
What do I do about this?

>>7657323
sounds familiar

>>7657323
kill yourself

>>7656814
giving me EmbodiedJosh vibes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qgctNW4AtE

More studies with poses. Got it close enough on the 4th attempt

>>7657323
draw trad, we had a person with shaky hands here say trad was significantly easier for them because of the grip.

>>7657345
I'm the opposite. The only time I've drawn consistently is with digital.

>>7657345
This also doesn't address my lack of motivation to do anything because of my medicine.

>>7657347
Stop taking your meds. If you want to draw being mentally ill is a prerequisite.

>>7657349
If I stop taking my meds I feel horrible withdrawals and suicidal. I have even tried tapering them down slowly and thats never worked either.

First attempts at drawing feet

>>7657345
deer....

>>7657330
>last upload 2 years ago
Did this permabeg finally give up?

>>7657367
brain damage sisters.....

>>7657371
hasnt posted in 2 years on his youtube and he closed his discord to the public, but he got a job at roblox and draws, aka traces, 3d facerig roblox characters for their podcasts. Now he piggybacks off the roblox podcast official youtube to post for clout and likes

https://x.com/ducksryellow

he said in his discord that he would return one day, i assume he will be claiming greatness since one of his fanart posts got thousands of likes
https://x.com/ducksryellow/status/1767904903396303327

tthere was a thread for posting what u drew today but i didnt find it in the catalog. hi /beg/ /int/ general

>>7657390
>7k likes
>only 386 followers
Brutal blackpill.

>>7657361
Schizo?

>>7657397
Did the legs turn out okay? I'm drawing them in pairs now to improve the perspective.

>>7657394
super cute sis.. blog?

>>7656853
you wasted good paper on this? I'm not tring to be mean but do that stuff on photocopy paper

>>7656713
You're not using it correctly. They eyes and moth shift to whatever quadrant your face is looking in

>>7657361

>>7657417
if you think that's good paper you're retarded and don't do trad, look at the texture. it's just thin paper in a sketchbook that he's using

>>7657429
This is my first time drawing them, what do you expect

>>7657417
why does it matter if it was good paper
nooo you can't use paper for what it was made for

>>7657417
I almost exclusively do traditional art. I don't like to waste good paper on warmups, so I use old printouts for thread challenges and the like. You faggots sure do love to launch into random assumptions when someone disagrees with you.
>>7657440
Using better paper wont magically make you a better artist anon. Also picrel

>>7657417 (You)
I almost exclusively do traditional art. I don't like to waste good paper on warmups, so I use old printouts for thread challenges and the like. You faggots sure do love to launch into random assumptions when someone disagrees with you.
>>7657440
Using better paper wont magically make you a better artist anon. Also picrel

>>7657361
Good first attempt, the other fags are trying to crab you

>>7657417
>he wasted good bytes on this retarded crab post

redid the lineart for a drawing from last week, feel like having virtually no rendering skills is holding me back

>>7657451
what do you use good art paper for if not art

>>7657361
A lot of these look pretty good. You have a good handle on the landmarks.
>>7657454
>he wasted good bytes on a bitchy, womanly post
I never criticized the artwork, just the medium. I know you're excited to sound cool, but learn your phrases before you use them.

>>7657458
>if not art
Why is /ic/ so chock-fucking-full or retarded kids that fail to understand basic concepts? Is it a consequence of spoonfeeding them for years on end until they resemble vietcong women screeching "YOU TELL ME INFORMATION NOW"?

A little more legs

>>7657452
>>7657459
Thank you

i hate pedo redlinefag so much

>>7657466
lmao i wonder why you can't actually say what's wrong with him using paper for art

>>7657474
whos that?

>>7657466
if he has the money to pay for nice paper, why not use it?

>>7657417
Copy paper would be cheaper, but that sketchbook is pretty cheap too. I prefer the extra width and I like to keep all of my sketches bound together neatly and in chronological order.

>>7657459
Don't try to weasel your way out of this you coward. You told him his work is a waste of paper. I am not buying you are so autistic you don't understand that it's an insult. You are a passive aggressive little bitch who tries to hide when called out.

I am going to use top quality paper to do pre-/beg/ studies and /ic/ can't stop me

wow you guys really do suck, you can't help but crab anyone who literally draws or give completely retarded criticisms for no reason instead of being helpful. good job retards, this why you're all stagnated as fuck
>>7657497
epic, you're a king

Hope every crab itt gets an extra dose of microplastic more in them than the rest of the world

16 days in:

This one's a rough sketch from imagination.

Linework of the portrait from yesterday.

A quick gestural study

doyo usually croquis your drawings before strarting?

>>7657552
tf does that mean

>>7656874
ur so good
>>7656922
nice!!

>>7657564
Nice heads and faces, you've almost reached the ideal

finished

>>7657497
based
fuck the material hoarders

doodle

>>7656684
I was gonna critique this but I dunno... the eyes look really damn AI.
Are you duping us?

>>7657581
what should be better? besides the perspective on the one

my eyesight has seriously deteriorated over the last couple of years due to astigmatism and advancing myopia. it’s gotten to the point that even with correction large words 30 or so feet from me start blurring at the edges. is it possible to abstract to a certain point the details of an object or room? i can’t even reference anything in darkness because my eyes can no longer adjust to the dark, even if it’s on a screen or in an image.

>>7656520
>>7656645
Is this one better or worse?

Hey, this croquis stuff is actually very fun.


>>7657600
Unf very nice. I will keep an eye on your handle.

>>7657607
>the eyes look really damn AI
NTA but nothing seems AI here, the circles are a little wobbly either because he had a tough time putting them in place or he did it on purpose to make the eyes look more interesting, my money is on the latter

>>7657651
Worse, both have completely different proportions from the reference but the first attempt has better flowing lines.

>>7656682
face: just move the features around a bit and try to avoid that many black lines in a render on the mouth/nose

the shoulder on the right: upper arm is too fat lower arm is too skinny, in this position the brachioradialis is especially thick and usually covers up alot more area especially when foreshortened.

lower torso/legs: a bit too small the proportions didn't make sense

sick renderskills though on the chest unironically mogs me into oblivion

>>7656089
warming up

>>7657651
it does not seem like you took my advice so no, outside of the face i guess. if that blue line is a plumb line you should be seeing the size of what's to the left of it
also don't obsess over resizing parts of a sketch, you should redraw so you can reinforce how you're drawing in your mind

Test

send tips if u got em

>>7657606
c-cute, wish I was able to simplify hands like that

>>7657651
the anon who told you to work on your observation skills is completely right, construction doesn't really help when you don't know what the thing you are constructing is supposed to look like. try to look for shapes in the body and negative space, don't look at the thing you are drawing as a human look for the shapes. Also I'm not telling you "construction is le bad" if you insist on using construction draw the boxes and orbs into the reference basically reverse construct the reference and go off on that until you are comfortable doing the construction freehand but I feel like that's still a step too early for you.

line....

Solids....

Another day, another drawing
>>7657731
Fantastic job on the tits, you conveyed so much volume without any shading.

>>7657457
Talented nit, post this on shitty social media and get your likes, don't mock, you're a bastard, you know everything perfectly well

Getting an early night, I recomend you all do too gn

>>7657853
Dude, I'm done with this, there's no point in spreading negativity, don't repeat me

dead schizo general

>>7657862
we're proud of you PBS

>>7657853
but anon isn't calling me a nit and claiming I know everything perfectly well a direct contradiction? btw that's the quickly sketched version I worked off of >>7643774 I heavily referenced J.K. for the eyes

also post your shit PBS, I wanna see what you are working on rn
>inb4 humiliation ritual
I genuinely think some of your body lines are fucking good, but if you don't want to it's cool

>>7657783
thanks, that one tit anon is a great inspiration, I'm so happy he started posting here and there again

If I'm starting with digital, is it actually better to use a screenless tablet? I've heard that it's better for avoiding back and neck pain, but is that the only real advantage aside from cost which isn't a concern for me?

>>7657946
avoiding pain played a big role for me as i sometimes draw 10+ hrs
ymmv tho

>>7655805 (OP)
today's draw

>>7657946
Depends. In my case, I ended up just switching back pain to wrist pain due to my screenless tablet being too small. So don't commit the same mistake as me and buy a big one at least.

>>7657946
I have read stands for ipads and display tablets can also promote better posture, and an appropriately sized tablet helps too.

Anons in the progress thread accurately pointed out my heads are ass so finally trying to get on that grind, how are these so far? Gonna probably try Huston's course as soon as I can find it.

>>7657473
nice feet

did some drawings, from worst to least worst
this was inspired by us talking about Christianity's seven sins so I tried to think of a very sinful person and what they might look like

>>7657669
>>7657687
>>7657731
3rd is me using your advice
2nd is me doing it like i was
1st is me doing it like I was but more copy-y

Is this how you study Burijjiman-sensei?

>>7658011
yo' boxes are fuckt
time to https://drawabox.com/

this was just thinking about when I was a dumb college student going to a bdsm club lol what a dummy

elf ear guy with a cup

and last pic for now there was one more but it was really shit so I'm not posting it
this was good though I liked drawing it

permabeg

>>7658011
I kinda like this one, don't really want to ruin it with the pen.
>>7658013
I rush them too much lol. Also, drawabox is gay. Sorry.

>>7658018
sometimes I feel like that too anon but dw, keep practicing and eventually you'll see some progress

Recent life stuff

>>7658013
>spend weeks drawing only boxes instead of drawing boxes AND other things
No.

>>7658030
Worked for "fun"schizo

why is this thread so dead

>>7658013
Is my box /pro/ enough for you, sempai? (,,>﹏<,,)

>>7658037
fucked still, sorry
time to eat a gazillion boxes

>>7658039
Seeeeeeennnnnnnpaaaaaaaiiiiiii, please compliment my boxes

>>7658048
Forgot the uWu emoticon.
> ≽ > ⩊ < ≼

Sempai-sama? Where have you gone?
(ó﹏ò｡)

Finished.
My faces still come out derpy as fuck, I need to study more animuh.

Finished.
My faces still come out derpy as fuck, I need to study more animuh.

>>7658084
studying female anatomy would help too

>>7658091
Female?

>>7658084
>>7658091
Studying human anatomy would help as well

I'm trying to draw Hat Kid from A Hat In Time, following a reference of something from the actual game. I have no idea what I'm doing, all of this shit looks too complicated.

>>7658097
She is an Umamusume, not a human so I don't think your advise makes any sense.

>>7658103
a horse daughter? why are her breasts so massive when the rest of her body seems to be relatively thin

>>7658107
P-personal preferences.

>>7658101
Why are you drawing the circle if you're not even going to use it?

>>7658103
I hate to break it to you, but that looks nothing like a horse.

>>7658113
That's good as she is not a horse but an umamusume.

>>7658110
To use it as a judge of where the eyes and the shape of the head go. Every other artist I've met does it this way. No artist I've ever met uses the divided ball and plane. That methods looks too complicated for me.

>>7656156
I love this

How would you guys describe this girl's artstyle?
I really like how the faces arent too realistic or too cartooney/anime.
https://x.com/VANKRAUT/status/1943872444420313485/photo/1

>>7658117
Okay cool, except your eyes don't even follow the horizontal guideline so why waste your time putting it there

>>7658139
looks like manhwaslop

>>7658142
They do, that's why they're on the same level.

>>7658145
obvious baiting retard, why am I wasting my time

maybe I was the retard all along

bruh

Sorry bros... I let the intrusive thoughts win.

i got hit with a temporary discord ban so I guess im back for a minute
dying

warmups (8x30s, 5x1m, 5x2m, 2x5m)

>>7658174
refs

>>7658115
I'm sure asking more questions will only lead to learning about something deeply retarded, so I'll just say good luck

Here's what it looks like now.

>>7658189
Reference image

>>7658189
Instead of making 20 lines make 1 line and make it where it's supposed to go.

>>7658191
I usually do that for sketches

Local evil wizard finds a cool orb. He's also shredded as fuck

>>7658192
Are you making a sketch of a thing that is in your head and you're carving out possible lines or are you making a study of a thing that is in front of you?

>>7658199
I'm making a sketch using a reference image here
>>7658190

Finally fucking done with this. I'm going to kill myself.

>>7657564
Thank you anon nice heads also

tried drawing cigarette burns but it looks like shit just like everything else
I will keep practicing regardless

>>7658214
he's hot honestly

>>7658227
He he Thanks anon. I like your dude. He looks cool.

all of you bastards that reject good critique i'm going to publically humiliate in future ops until everyone here knows how to improve

trying to learn rendering with hard round

Doodle from memory as warmup.
Position of paper really skews proportions if you dont have it perfectly perpendicular.
I should just give up ngl.

>>7655887
Waste of time

I am permabeg and should just not try anymore.

>>7658214
did you draw fanart of the swedish summer camp shooter?

>>7658101
ball schizo just dropped

>>7658299
Lol. No idea who that is

>>7658171
Deer??? Is that you?! YAYYYYYY!!!!

>>7658171
KILL YOURSELF

I cant draw faces. I am legit brain injured.
There is something wrong with my brain I cant keep fucking face proportions in check.

>>7658306
deersis... damaged brain...

I honestly like it but is there anything wrong with it the stands out?
https://files.catbox.moe/wgi2kz.png
(uploaded to catbox because jannies keep blocking my ip from posting files even after moving houses because they are obsessed faggots kill yourself)

I'm too retarded for drawing. I forgot how I prefer to hold my pencil for half an hour even though I use it daily
>>7657142
She's supposed to be pretty short, but I'm still not so sure about the proportions I gave her for the drawing on the left. Might start doing digital so I can experiment more tbqh

>>7658311
mogs me

>>7658304
just for a moment. to cope. with my momentary ban. then sayonara fuckss.drunk
>>7658308
faces r the only thing I like to draw faces and big fat

>>7658308
That's permabegschizo

>>7658266
struggling to achieve smooth gradients but its getting there

I am faceblind. Why is drawing faces so easy for everyone else.

I feel bad.

>>7658330
mogs me.

>>7658312
>>7658331
PermabegschizoGOD...

>>7658321
sure lil bro

>>7658320
How do you get banned on Discord?

Haven’t posted for a bit. I keep starting figures and abandoning them. I think I’ll go all the way through and ink/color/shade the big one. Also the gator was fun

>>7658176
Patrician taste

>>7658338
i made a joke and got hit with a ban for the joke bc spam reported sadge

>>7658347
she was not old enough

>>7658339
Some additional sketches. Crabs/redlines/suggestions always welcome.

>>7658351
The contours on that one ass will give me nightmares.

CAN ONE OF THE GOOD ARTISTS HERE TELL ME HOW TO LEARN TO DRAW CUTE FACES WITH PROPER PERSPECTIVE AND WITH PROPER PROPORTIONS BEFORE I BLOW MY FUCKING BRAINS OUT.

I AM TIRED AND SICK OF SEEING EVERYONE DO IT SO EASILY.

>>7658354
lmao which one? Bottom right?

>>7658359
deersis...

>>7658359
I would gladly answer you, but you asked for good artists only though.
[spoiler]Post your attempts first[/spoiler]

>>7658370
that's not me faces are easy

I think I will draw more thinner tentacles crawling from the bottom

>>7658380
this is so nice to look at
great linework!

>>7658359
kill yourself

>>7658380
threadGOD...

>>7658350
im 22 I just have a bad sense of humor

>>7658380
Your eyelids are my new target now.

>>7658359
How about you face the truth already...

>>7658359
>12 years of this
The final boss of unwavering perseverance

>>7658309
https://files.catbox.moe/p2rgon.png
I added a thing
cant tell if making it more ambiguous was better especially with the thing being a bit goofy looking

>>7658359
mfw

>>7658414
appealGOD...

I want to be good like the beginners here who get better than me in a month.

>discord
I get that /ic/ sucks sometimes, but terminally online artists on discord make we want to give up on art forever

>>7658347
Deerbro, You're really blessed to have the wiling strength to leave this cursed place. Thanks for your service fren! Have one quick last fanart. The fat-elk-deer will live forever in this general lol

Last slop of the night I guess

>>7658414
I'm gonna see this image in some random thread in 3 years and burst out laughing.

>>7658376
I have nothing worth posting that wont have people laughing at me again.

>>7658347
aw shieeee....i fucked this body up so bad idek wtf...got lost...
>>7658390
>>7658422
tigers!

and rando face doodles.

>>7658441
mogs me

>>7658434
You will never improve if you fear being laughed at.
Look. I have plenty of laughable ones with me too.

>>7658439
>>7658420
thank you peril, beautiful fan art <3 ill prob be gone in two days or so when I get my discord ban released hopefully, thank you for the lovely piece, you've always been a wonderful influence on my motivation friend! always had a blessed time engaging with you
your comics always bring a smile to my face !
>>7658439
deeply love this tenna friend, excellent work

Tried to fix the face and ink it

>>7658446
mogs me.

He's losing it tonight

>>7658452
whos He

>>7658409
Hey thats my post
I am on the art critique board and would like to get... art critique
maybe the shading is off composition is not that great it looks muddy or whatever other shit you could find but instead we get another namefag drama that legitimately no one actually fucking cares about and that you and your friends keep pushing for some reason each fucking thread
and you know exactly who you are basil

>>7658452
A lack of results will make anyone feral.

kill yourself and tell all the people in the vc to do the same

>>7658472
who

>>7658359
I was gonna reply thoughtfully but if no one can fix you in 12 years I don't see a point in trying.

>>7658482
Yeah. Unless I am tracing I cant keep the features in place.
I am just fucked in the head. God has punished me this way.

>>7658484
How often do you just copy other drawings from observation (no tracing)? Do you copy different artists with different styles, or just draw Urabe all day? If you really did draw for 12 years your observation and reference drawing skills should be top notch by now.

are they talking about me again?

>>7658486
fail

>>7658486
>>7658486
>How often do you just copy other drawings from observation
I try to do it whenever I get a chance at work but being constantly interrupted. I also sit down when I come home after gym and redraw stuff I bookmarked through the day if I dont get sudden chores or work to occupy me.
>just draw Urabe all day
I used to drawfag so I would try several styles and characters but got shit on so much that I didnt bother trying anymore after people would come to my dms to privately ask me to never drawfag for them again.
>If you really did draw for 12 years your observation and reference drawing skills should be top notch by now.
I am blind. I have to measure a lot and still end up with horrible dogshit results over and over while anons get way better than me in a month. I have negative talent.

This is just a quickie 5min piece of shit that looks like trash even though it is right besides the ref.

I want to draw but I have negative talent. I am tired of being ridiculed and mocked.

hopefully this pose makes sense (so far)

>>7658309
>>7658409
this is so dope. i love the snow closer to the lens
the blood streak is somewhat confusing though, it should be more drippy behind the character if they weren't dragged to this tree on an open wound or something. then again the visual of the streak is much nicer than i'd imagine some drops of blood in the snow to be

>>7658311
what do you plan to do with all these yoshinari studies

>>7658189
nightmare fuel

>>7658174
nice
what's your finished stuff look like?

>>7658500
>what's your finished stuff look like?
not finished, but this is today's drawing

>>7658500
>yoshinari studies
I'm kind of treating them as anime Bargue plates I guess and trying to absorb the essence of how Yoshinari draws. I've found these copies I've been doing have really helped me in ways I can't even articulate. I'm starting to do my own drawings now and plan to mix them in more with my studies and rapid ink drawings.

csp mechanical pencil brush is wild

>>7658521
t-teach me how to draw.

>>7658524
do you have talent?

>>7658524
study the practice sheets of
@cyjalway
@TryTrylsc

>>7658525
n-no

>>7658521
Did you change up your face artstyle? What are you aiming for?

>>7658530
I just made the eyelids a straight line instead of curvy
the rest of the face is the way I always do it
making the eyes simpler is easier to maintain consistency

I am so tired I can't focus at all
but I need to practice
fuck

>>7658498
Do you mean you're legally blind?
Anyway I have no idea how to help someone with 12 years of bad habits solidified into him and with an actual handicap. I guess you can try starting from the basics again. Simple forms, intersecting forms, and life studies of topics simpler than humans (preferably no photo ref). Observation is king.

I feel like you learned how to construct a basic anime head from a book or guide one day and treated it as the Bible ever since. The truth is, your favorite artists may have learned that method of construction but they almost certainly don't use it anymore, or if they do it's only bits and pieces. They deviated from the basic construction and allowed themselves to fail. All of your favorite pros have a bespoke method of construction (if they even do construction) that's purpose-fit for their own use. Try to experiment more and draw different shapes and expressions. Draw different characters, draw men. Break whatever rules you learned because they don't actually matter, only the end result does. Self-critique and learn what worked and what didn't. Iterate on what worked. Doing the same thing for 12 years obviously isn't working, so change it.

>>7658546
The 13 years is a shitpost. Its actually 26 years.
>Trying to help permabegschizo
Not even Pawell-sama could. You are either a newfag or a troll.
>That retarded advice
Definitely some kind of advanced permacrabbing
pyw

daily humiliation ritual
there was a sketch too but it was really bad
I should have gone to bed an hour ago

Pls

>>7657185
finished
>>7657600
you asked me about line confidence last thread, yet your linework is great already

>>7658635
OK give it up anon, how did you learn to draw

>>7658447
oh shiii see you in two days there again XD
have some spamtenna art
>>7658420

based deer art

>>7658311
oh fair,
i would give digital a go
apart from proportions you do faces pretty well tho
so dont beat yourself up too much

>>7658380
WOOF

>>7658635
HOT HOT HOT HOT

>>7658635
They have soul, appeal, whatever the fuck you want to call it

I think shinji looks kinda scuffed but kaworu came out ok I think

Been very warm now so had to draw something summery :)

Feet kinda suck and something else but that happens.

>>7658651
very cute spamtenna they look very sweet xD yeah I'm just eating the ban for now there's no use fighting it it was totally my fault because my joke was in very bad taste

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>>7658757
>>7658757
>>7658757
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how do you respond without sounding mad?

>>7658745
lovely work aizanon

>>7658812
that many views and so few likes/rtw for this blatant bait? sad.

>>7656791
lmao