Patreon, Gumroad, and Fansly BS happened because of people like that.

>>7661452 (OP)
Don't worry I got this, give me a few more months I'll get this done and free the world.

Which sector of society would suffer if judeo-america simply vanished?

>>7661454
You better hurry up anon because I just realized that Itchio got the NSFW banhammer.
They been censoring Japanese websites too, the future is grim, what's next? violence?
GTA VI is cooked lmao.

>>7661452 (OP)
>This is a major win for women and girls.
They should ban porn games aimed at women too like that reverse harem set in space.

I think now more than ever it's time to go on a mass download spree. Save everything. Thank God I recently got unlimited, no cap gigabit internet for free each month.

>>7661467
Based hoarder.

>>7661463
Blame their puppets.

>>7661463
Collective Shout is an Australian group.

>>7661452 (OP)
Just don't tag your games as rape, or incest rape quest.
They'll never be bothered to play your game themselves.

>>7661452 (OP)
So you think their logo looking like an asshole was deliberate?

>>7661452 (OP)
No it's not. It's far more complicated and difficult and if you keep fucking thinking "OH ITS SOME ACTIVIST NOBODY HAS EVER HEARD OF THAT DOESNT EVEN WORK WITH ANY OF THESE COMPANIES" you are going to keep getting bamboozled.

Current top layer 3:
>They reached maximum market saturation in the west and they want every thirdworlder on credit
>thirdworld countries are backwards authoritarian shitholes and like to ban things as a political move or for stealing the money out of private businesses, especially the local branches of multinationals
>comply to gain market access

Layer 2, this is where we were during most of the 2010s:
>Unlike the phone companies, governments looove bullying financial institutions when illegal transactions go through them
>Numerous high profile raids in the past related to things like drug running and human trafficking
>Operation Chokepoint, FOSTA-SESTA, KYC laws, anti-terrorist-funding bills, etc etc
>So they have more risk from governments cracking down on them and imposing heavy legal costs (you can't really settle with a government like you can in civil court) if they turn a blind eye
>Easier to just be hostile to things wholesale

Layer 1 (the base, where things were before around 2012ish):
>Porn sites have a high rate of chargebacks
>NSFW art is small enough that it's lumped in with porn

In all cases you SOMETIMES can negotiate to just pay higher fees but this often requires additional documentation and so on. Most websites do not want to do this because it cuts into their margins too much, and the actual people running them are beholden to investors, hosting companies (who sometimes ALSO get threatened with higher fees as a result), etc. The investors often will veto it as they have no personal investment in the enterprise and would rather just burn the company down to get their bag and leave.

But if it's your own website you can go through the hassle of using PaymentCloud or some shit, it's just a pain in the ass.

>>7661481
That's a two-edged sword strategy and those feminist groups are insane, months ago they got "No Mercy" removed from Steam because of the same reasons listed in the OP's picrel.

>>7661463
coomers

I don't think loli rape incest videogames were ever allowed on Steam.

>>7661490
>thirdworld countries are backwards authoritarian shitholes and like to ban things as a political move or for stealing the money out of private businesses
most of the global south is less likely to ban random books over parents being offended than the us THOUGH

>>7661452 (OP)
Now I wanna use my /BEG/ art in a Visual Novel.
>R*pe
>Inc*st
>S*xual torture
>Loli
I see, so those are the most lucrative genres right now, how can I get paid for my VN? BTC?

>>7661520
Correct but they're more likely to wholesale block websites, levy taxes and/or freeze their (local) accounts if it's politically expident. Claiming something or other is damaging to public morals is a classic thirdie strongman tactic to rile people up when its around election time. It's also prudent to not do anything that some up and comer could leverage for an anticolonial narrative.

So what do visa and mastercard do? They ban as much as their data shows is practical to strike the balance so they come across as less of a "degenerate white imperial" thing while still making gains in terms of % of people who are on credit. It doesn't matter that their budgets are tiny, what matters is more people being on credit.

If my memory isn't faulty, I remember fucking mastercard had a thing several years ago trying to get migrant caravans of illegals onto credit as they came up towards the US. It's fucked.

People predicted all of this was going to happen last year by the way.

>>7661464
>Itchio got the NSFW banhammer.
It's Paypal's fault, just like Steam.

>>7661490
>ban things as a political move or for stealing the money out of private businesses, especially the local branches of multinationals
They're trying to do this in Brazil right now, they're showing anti piracy ads on TV all the time, but piracy's not illegal in HUEland lmao.

>>7661537
>People predicted all of this was going to happen last year by the way.
>last year
There's a Light Novel from 2012 and it predicted all this:
>In the dystopian future of 2030, the Japanese government is cracking down on any perceived immoral activity from using risqué language to distributing lewd materials in the country, to the point where all citizens are forced to wear high-tech devices called Peace Makers (PM) at all times that analyze every spoken word and hand motions for any action that could break the law.

>>7661452 (OP)
On one hand, I am completely and utterly apathetic to nsfw art/games made for the purpose of sexual stimuli instead of artistic conveyance, but on the other hands, that's dystopian suppression of expression there.

I don't think that anything besides sexualized depiction of minors should be banned. And yes I do think that should be.

Any bans levied by the platform are fair game if not done under pressure, but pressuring the platform by intervention of payment processors is vile.

>>7661551
That states clearly that the notice is for using the likeness of a real person in the game.

>>7661572
I am pretty sure thought policing is not a 2012 Japanese fictional invention.

Not even 1984 was "fresh" in that regard.

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>>7661452 (OP)
what the fuck

>>7661555
Yea and brazil is relatively NICE compared to a lot of other places. Mexico fucked paypal several years ago by making it so mexicans cannot hold a balance inside a paypal account, and I believe BR did something similar. You have to link it directly to your bank, if I remember right (I'm not a thirdie, I just have friends who are.)

This sounds kind of weird on the surface but it's like putting paypal's nuts through an old school clothes wringer. They have a LOT of money-mobility through people just keeping a balance in there or from finding an "issue" with someone's account and denying them access to their money.

Payment processors are all completely fucked business model-wise.

>>7661495
It was quite literally, the same group as well. I wouldn't be surprised if they got high off their own farts from that incident and that's why they're pushing towards games so much - they're desperate for some wins.
As it has been pointed out before, prior to this, their biggest contribution to the world was harassing a local bakery to remove the cheeky line from their bag "The world's best buns!".
So these ladies are small obnoxious fish who have suddenly found themselves in a much bigger pond.

They had probably just heard about the payment processors previous exploits and thought they could leverage them to do the same to steam.
I also see many people put the onus on steam, when it's got obvious from the way the rule is written, they're just as unhappy about it as anyone else, even outright stating it's not really their rules being broken, but arbitrary standards set by these payment processors.
I just hope this leads to major ruination for these companies. I want Visa, and Master Card, and Paypal, being taken behind the shed for trying to control people like this.

>>7661596
>I also see many people put the onus on steam, when it's got obvious from the way the rule is written, they're just as unhappy about it as anyone else, even outright stating it's not really their rules being broken, but arbitrary standards set by these payment processors.
There was some kind of internal strife at steam because of some games taking excessively long to get a rejection and it almost always being for certain kinds of content already. The biggest recent issue was Blue Archive being severely delayed. I doubt these shitters had anything to do with any of this, as policy changes are not usually something that companies like steam implement without weeks or months of deliberation. At least not without some kind of large crisis occuring.

I believe that extreme censorship is just the natural response to overly liberal policies and shit that was happening. I'm not saying it's justified, but that the pendulum is just swinging back. imo, some of the best art and innovation happens during times of overly authoritarian puritanical values. The reason being you have to be subversive and that requires more subtlety than brainlets are capable of.

>>7661452 (OP)
I've been looking at this logo and their choice for asterisks. Holy shit lol. There's no fucking way this organization isn't run by a group of trolls. I think it all started as a joke to bait people, then retards thought they were in good company and they decided to see how far they could take this and HERE we are. LMFAOOO.

>>7661452 (OP)
Remember; if payment processors didn't already want to fuck over the adult industry for decades because it's the only industry that gives them problems, they wouldn't have used this as yet another excuse to act.

Who do you think is going to take the fall if people and shills push back?
Not the payment processors.
>"No, guys you don't get it we love porn because it makes us a lot of money it's just those feminists fault for forcing our hand!"
In the end it's all about money and not ideology and i can guarantee you if payment processors put new rules into effect that forces the adult industry to play by the rules and not have insane amount of chargebacks and fraud going on, you will:
>see this "censorship" go away instantly
>lots of scammers beings unable to exploit the adult industry like they have been doing since the beginning
>adult and online service providers making sure you can't fuck them over by refunding after you get your shit
None of the normies get this but screech about censorship and puritans to rally other normies to their cause and farm views on youtube.

If you aren't willing to turn on your brain, i guess the banning of pornography, which you were warned about countless times, is exactly what you deserve.
I mean, i ain't affected by this shit; i have my fap material already downloaded and i can draw my own smut.

>>7661651
That's a real base layer but unfortunately it's gotten more complicated over time. They want every thirdie to be on credit, and banks and payment processors are not treated like phone companies as simple intermediaries, governments force them to proactively screen for suspicious shit due to anti money laundering and anti terrorism laws.
The full outline I put here >>7661490

>>7661665
>They want every thirdie to be on credit, and banks and payment processors are not treated like phone companies as simple intermediaries, governments force them to proactively screen for suspicious shit due to anti money laundering and anti terrorism laws.
No, shit. How is that a bad thing?
As i said; if the adult industry wasn't high risk, this shit wouldn't happen.
People are asking for a financial collapse if they keep letting things as they are.

But what exactly do you mean by, thirdies on credit? That they pay their taxes instead of doing everything under the table? This isn't something like
>"oh the evil jewish government wants my money"
It's more or less from keeping a country from going bankrupt and currency losing value in the long term.

>>7661452 (OP)
its visa and mastercard that are pulling off of platforms that sell "weird" porn. they've been trying to stop processing payments in the porn industries for years now, but they can't fully get out because of the obvious huge profits. so they are strong-arming all platforms to at least remove what they think its "unsavory"

>payment processors are people that's why they act on ideology and personal taste but also act on profits
absolute midwit take

>>7661452 (OP)
visual art (male) is problematic, novels (females) are fine, there is so much depraved, rapey, disguting stuff in your average library but for some reason thats fine.

what I find fascinating is why do we treat sexual violence so differently to physical and fantasy violence, I don't understand it.

>>7661682
>what I find fascinating is why do we treat sexual violence so differently to physical and fantasy violence, I don't understand it.
It's the same standard as to why are we unable to criticize pornography that happens to have a majority male consumer base and why it's a death sentence to point out that females are the major enablers of late stage capitalism

>not my coom! nooooo!!! I can't mindlessly fap without my coom!!! ahhhh!!!!

>>7661675
>>7661681
>"unsavory"
>"Ideology"
They don't give a FUCK about, morality, or ideology, or whatever BUT MONEY. So, why are they pushing this try hard virtue signalling bullshit? Are you people aware of even the slightest hint of the daily news out there?
The Epstein Chernobyl is already sending pieces of his melting core flying out to outer space. THAT SHIT will provoke a posing tsunami of hypocrites and cynical faggots as never seen before in the west, and when that shit goes away, you will have your porn freedom back. Maybe sooner than you think. But at least you know why.

>payment processors are virtue signaling when they care all about money
2 Anons 1 oxymoron
make this into a porn

If the big global acting corporation, which its only purpose is to make money, does a thing that aligns with some ideology, is it for personal gain or for social justice?

Does the cartel, mafia or the triads kill their enemies because they don't like them?

>>7661572
>>In the dystopian future of 2030, the Japanese government is cracking down on any perceived immoral activity from using risqué language to distributing lewd materials in the country, to the point where all citizens are forced to wear high-tech devices called Peace Makers (PM) at all times that analyze every spoken word and hand motions for any action that could break the law.
that's not even close to what's happening

Good. Porn should be banned everywhere

>>7661528
>Correct but they're more likely to wholesale block websites, levy taxes and/or freeze their (local) accounts if it's politically expident
Nigger, the US is the one banning websites they don't like, taxing (sorry, tariffing) you and freezing your account if you speak against the chosen people. You live in the third world.

>>7661464
why don't japs make their own payment processor/
china did, and it's bigger than mastercard and visa, japan has the kind of reputation that would let them take over the western market

>>7661452 (OP)
THEN: LOLI/SHOTA BAN.

NOW: RAPE/INCEST BAN.

COMING SOON: TRADITIONAL HETEROSEXUAL SEX BAN.

They won't stop. They want you consuming their blacked porn on their websites or onlyfans, empowering women who prostitute themselves.

>>7661720
it'd be for the better

>>7661739
>yes goy they will come for you so be outrage but pls save ME first
not my problem, huemonkey

No one but the pornographers themselves will come to the adult industry's rescue because people genuinely do not like them, more as persons than the content they produce, because everyone has been exposed to how disingenuous, childish, sociopathic, narcissistic and overall insufferable they are.
It's rare to meet an actual nsfw artist/pornographere who isn't more or less someone you would genuinely avoid irl.

>>7661739
>They want you consuming their blacked porn on their websites or onlyfans, empowering women who prostitute themselves
no one in the industry who has any "sense" about them - whether that's the CEO of Pornhub, or some production company like Vixen Media Group - wants a more narrow market, they want a wider one. to go back to VMG, they produce BLACKED. but they also produce multiple, different genres under different labels. they know that their "best" customers are the most depraved, the most brain-rotted, coom-obsessed retards who are looking for the next thing to help them get their limp dicks hard - as eventually their current obsession will start to get more and more stale, even with the addition of new pornstars, new scenarios, new toys. they want you consooming everything, not only some niche genre.

>>7661739
They already were selectively banning bdsm accounts.

>>7661745
>>7661745
Are you okay?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNyzjQtgJjA

>>7661734
They have their own payment systems already. You mean credit/debit card? They do, JCB. JCB did try to branch into overseas markets years ago, but didn't take off.

https://thetransfemininereview.com/2025/07/24/itch-io-nsfw-ban/

Also banned on itch. Trannies impacted. Oh no no, but why would this be the case....?

>>7661812
>Payment Processors Crack Down on Independent Art
muh heckin Independent Art(tm)! can these people not be hyperbolic for five seconds? he says
>Nothing in itch.io’s current policy suggests any justification whatsoever for such a dramatic purge of NSFW content
but you'd have to think they have some clause where they can say "fuck you, we don't like it, we're taking it off our site." -- why would they not?
>MAJOR UPDATE: Itch.io Goes Full Morality Police
woah! a company deciding what is and isn't allowed on their site?! they're burning the books!!
>Multiple novels by transfeminine authors have been outright removed from the platform, and display the following message when viewed on the store page [such iconic titles as "Sisterfuck" and "Dad Stuff 1" (really riveting stuff)]
okay, now they're really burning the books!

sarcasm aside, it is quite odd how this could be spun as some attack on trans people ("transfeminine" individuals in particular). at the end he says
>This is a dark moment for free speech
these sorts of things make you wonder whether these people are genuinely retarded and actually believe being able to host content of their fetishes wherever they want is "free speech", or they're just trying to make the best argument they can to garner the biggest amount of mainstream support. I don't suppose Thom Jeff'd be for it - just a hunch.

>adult sites don't allow non-pornographic content
>completely ok
>non-adult sites don't allow pornographic content
>CALL THE CYBER POLICE THIS IS AN INJUSTICE
this is why everyone hates coomers and will not take your side in this battle

I can guarantee you that if you look for any opinions calling this whole ordeal a "censorship" and doombaiting, you will find trannies

>>7661829
>>7661821
>Businesses and consumers getting fucked by the impositions of payment processors is ok, actually

When did people become such corpo and gov cucks?

/v/ tourists thread.

>>7661872
that's just a strawman. I'm not in favor of it regarding most things, but I'm also not gonna shed a single tear that coomers have less coom to coom to.

>>7661872
>business (Me being a nsfw artist) and consumers (my paypigs) getting fucked is akshually ok now?
yes go cry about the heckin jelly crabs already, crossdresser

>>7661880
Just don't draw loli, rape and incest.

>>7661878
>>7661880
>>7661883
>It's okay for govs and corpos to fuck over things I don't like, surely this won't come back to bite things I like eventually

Why is this board filled with astroturfing christcucks and feminazi shills

>>7661888
im an albino jew

>>7661883
>>7661892
>Just don't draw lolis
>Just don't draw lolis, incest and rape
>Just don't draw lolis, incest, rape, hypnosis, furries, catgirls...
>Just don't draw porn
>Just don't draw stuff that isn't approved by the comics code authority
>Just don-ACK

>>7661896
>PLS FIGHT MY WAR OR YOU HATE FREEDOM OR ELSE!!!
hmmmm
not my problem
don't care
get fucked
you were warned

>WOW PORN IS SO EPIC I LOVE DRAWING PORN PORN IS GREAT HNG I LOVE SEX SO MUCH
>yeah uuhm selling porn is illegal now
>AAAAAAAAAAAAH FUCKING PURITANS
come on, go draw porn, no is stopping you

>>7661897
>>7661898
y so mad tho

>>7661888
>come back to bite things I like
at any given point people with more power than you can do whatever they want. warnings of escalation misunderstand how force works: even with no precedent people powerful enough can take away things you like. and you might make the angle of precedence as legitimacy/public adherence or tolerance, but as regards more general forms of media, the idea that wanting to ban incest, loli/shota, rape, and the like will likely lead to such things is pure speculation, and not reasonable imo. most people find these things improper. obviously the specifics matter, but it's much different than some vanilla sex scene in a non-pornographic film, say.

>>7661899
pls refer to the shitty comic>>7661892
yeah i know i suck beg schizo meltdown and i am mad seething cope projection theater
suck to be you tho

>>7661901
but how come people with more power can do what they want if i'm personally offended by it?
I AM UPSET AND THEY HAVE TO STOP NOW!

The whole complaints about the current situation really reminds me when you tell kids they can't eat too much candy or else they'll get sick and then they start crying and throwing tantrums.
Really is telling what type of people consume the slop.

>>7661901
Bull fucking shit, you'd need to be a zoomer to think like this, dumb niggers like you are the reason porn even got to this point.

>>7661904
;)
>>7661907
good argument, not

>>7661901
You're trying to reason with sub 80IQ "people" that would fuck their family members and pets if they could get away with it.

>>7661906
You don't get sick from eating candy, so you're accidentally right on the money.

>he really thinks nobody can tell he's samefagging

>>7661901
It's a matter of acceptance, people at large wouldn't accept a complete and immediate porn ban but if you start banning things little by little it's gonna be much more acceptable

If we have our current freedoms it's because people wanted and fought for them, governments will always try to become dictatorships if they can and get as much power and control as they can but masses have power too

When america did prohibitionism it resulted in the creation of large criminal organizations to the point they were forced to legalize alcohol again

Power of corpos and govs isn't absolute and there's a limit to how much they can exert it

>>7661910
wow anon i am so mad and metlingsdowns
i sure am emotionally distressed
look i even replied!

>>7661901
>t. zoomzoom
History is full of examples of powerful people trying to impose their will on the plebs only to get raped in return. Any time you take a large step, you create opportunity for someone to grab power.

>>7661913
>le candy makes you sick
>inane shitposting
You need to be 18 to post here.

>NOOO U CANT BAN PORN BECAUSE THEYLL BAN EVERYTHING
>BAN RELIGION? YAAAAS PLEAAAASE!

>[samefagging intensifies]

>>7661916
So, why are you posting here?
Shoo shoo ipadkiddo

>>7661915
>HE THEY THINK THEY CAN BAN PORN?!?! WELL REVOLUTIONAISE RIGHT GUYS
whatchu gonna do? Do a pride parade only to get truck of peace'ed by a muslim?

If pornographers ever stage some sort of protest and they get run over by a car or truck or shot at, EVERYONE except trannies and pornfags will secretly rejoice.

>>7661920
Get rich selling now low supply porn for more money without paying taxes until kikes get mad and regulate the industry for taxes, same as prostitution, alcohol, weed and everything else you cucks cucked out on lol

>>7661580
You live in a dystopian society already and defending misery porn is not the hill I'd chose to die on personally. If their logic is to ban what is illegal, it be stupid of them to stop at pedophilia and ignore rape, torture and incest.
>>7661682
>why is sexual violence treated differently from fantasy violence
You better be a retard or a bot.

>oh no what a terrible thing!!!!
>go inside the thread
>it its CP and incest
The government should hunt down every last one of you and do a public execution, not only do you enjoy degenerate things, but you're also cringe.

>>7661926
not him. but would you rather be raped or maimed and disfigured?

>>7661901
It sets a precedent and a framework to make it considerably easier the next time you feel like doing it.
Banning rape and child porn would take a decade, between the legal battles and building the technical stuff required to figure out certain transactions are for child porn and not office supplies or whatever the invoice says but once you've done that, banning vanilla takes five minutes if you feel like it.

And it's not just vanilla porn, once it's there you can use it for whatever. Your political podcast they don't like, your videogame where China is a hostile faction, your online store selling anime figurines, they'll ban it and nobody will defend you because they don't want to side with a guy who got flagged by the communist pedotranny detector.

You can really tell pornfags are desperate to make it everyone elses problem because they know they have got no allies due to being insufferable spergs and weirdos.

I'm trans btw.

Every nsfw shitter is a tranny, retard.

I'm so sick of pornsick weirdos fetishizing transwomen

Pornfags promote an unrealistic depiction of women and it makes me insecure even though I pass.

>>7661821
>wherever they want is "free speech"
Too many people who do dark content don't even understand they write about taboos and will cry about people being mean to them if someone chose to flame them instead of blocking right away. Coomers and the mentally ills are too coddled nowaday and wouldn't survive in the internet 1.0.

if porn gets banned all trannies die and no new ones get made you galaxy brains

when cumbrains can't coom to their animus they will realize trans women are valid and date me

>>7661932
I'd rather watch you crash and burn, edgelord.

>>7661944
this
the parallels between coomers wanting everyone to validate their shit taste and trannies wanting to get validated for their mental illness are uncanny

Pornfags think all women should look like their fetishized anime waifus so they tell me I look like a man even though I pass irl

I support blocking porn because it reminds of how I became better after blocking testosterone, payment processors are transcoded

>>7661909
either way, it's interesting to think about the topic
>>7661915
>Any time you take a large step, you create opportunity for someone to grab power.
for those with enough force, that power grab is always there; that it "needed" a prior, less significant grab is a myth
>>7661912
>if you start banning things little by little it's gonna be much more acceptable
that doesn't necessarily follow: slippery slope theory is a heuristic, not a universal law. like I said earlier, the specifics matter, but we're talking about some of the more universally ill-regarded content here. to get to the really extreme side of things I think you'd need more than just a series of small, selective bans, rather a deep change in the religion/philosophy of the society.
>When america did prohibitionism it resulted in the creation of large criminal organizations to the point they were forced to legalize alcohol again
I don't know enough about the history of the prohibition, but I suspect public support (or lack thereof), the Great Depression and the lack of jobs, and a couple other things had a hand in it; it's not obvious to me that crime was the main factor in its repeal. I actually think a country-wide porn ban would likely have the potential for more success given that so much of the likely illegal distribution would be online: those cracking down on it wouldn't have to go looking for people physically (as much).
>>7661934
>framework
again, framework's already there. to stick with the current example, people keep acting like this is this is the "first pillar," but it was already as easy as it was for the initiative to get these PP companies to comply.
>considerably easier
this is very vague and not grounded in any specifics - which, when you get into, can very quickly weaken this "considerably easier" idea
>rape and cp would take a decade, but afterwards vanilla take five minutes
this is pure speculation and heavily depends on the mechanism; still too vague.

>>7661901
absolutely divorced from reality

>>7661956
if you actually have an argument, by all means, be specific

>>7661612
The group doing the censorship is feminist, they're the liberals...

>>7661954
I disagree with the ban of any of that stuff, CP and revenge porn violate real people's rights but fiction does not and should not be restricted

We're witnessing the slippery slope in action right now, what makes you think it's gonna stop unless people protest?

The US supreme court rolled back it's strict scrutiny principle and some republicans are working on a law to ban porn altogether: if public opinion on porn shifts they'll do it no problem

I do believe in the long run free speech prevails, after all now almost all literature is fairly free except for school bans, but it wasn't always like this and we shouldn't assume things can't go back to being worse if we don't push back

Again, slippery slopes often don't happen exactly BECAUSE there is pushback

I don't want government and large corpos to take away the livelyhood of people and dictate what content is acceptable: the bible has incest, for the love of god

>>7661691
You must be a woman, there's no way that a man would think that this is about porn instead of censorship.

>>7661972
don't validate the tranny

>>7661967
>rights
those don't exist
>but fiction does not and should not be restricted
says what?
We're witnessing the slippery slope in action right now, what makes you think it's gonna stop unless people protest?
this is you just being incredulous, which isn't an argument. unless you have clairvoyance or something, we don't know what all is going to come from this, if anything.
>The US supreme court rolled back it's strict scrutiny principle and some republicans are working on a law to ban porn altogether: if public opinion on porn shifts they'll do it no problem
I'm not sure calling it a rollback is the most appropriate term, but regardless that makes my point: that as long as you have enough force, you can enact change in a society
I do believe in the long run free speech prevails, after all now almost all literature is fairly free except for school bans, but it wasn't always like this and we shouldn't assume things can't go back to being worse if we don't push back
this is a misnomer. "free speech" isn't letting people host their pornographic content anywhere and everywhere.
>slippery slopes often don't happen exactly BECAUSE there is pushback
sometimes, sure, often/most of the time, I'm not sure where we'd even begin to calculate that
>I don't want government and large corpos to take away the livelyhood of people and dictate what content is acceptable
they already do that/have that ability

>>7661452 (OP)
Bro valve cucked out... they should just tell them to fuck off and make their own valve cards or something. Better then censoring and let this pieces of shit to do whatever they want.

>>7661972
Wow anon you pointing at the facebook meme really has convinced me i should drop everything and fight for your right to groom kids on discord

Also yes, everyone should die.
>but they'll come for you!!!!!!!
Not my problem.
I just want the low iqs to die.

>>7661972
>censorship
virtually no one believes in "freedom" or like virtues in an absolute way; almost everyone draws the line, and acting as if they hold some absolute view of such things is, indeed, mostly virtue-signaling.

>>7661976
>Rights don't exist
They should

>We can't see the future therefore we don't know if the slippery slope is gonna lead to porn ban
There's already way too much restriction for my tastes, and we have had Draconian restrictions in the past so if the trend continues I don't see why it won't happen 10-20 years from now, unless things change or there's pushback

>Porn isn't free speech
"free speech is just things that I think are good and not things I think are bad"
The only reason governments are allowed to censor pornographic content is because of public moral and obscenity restriction to free speech, which I find abhorrent and think should be removed altogether since they amount to "we can make obscene content illegal, but we can't define what obscene content is"
Also porn is free speech as it is legal

I'm fine with private companies restricting content on their own terms, I'm not fine with payment processors and governments forcing them to do so

>Corpos and govs can fuck over people just because
They shouldn't be able to

>>7661982
Nigger. What the fuck ?
Let's do this one by one. Because it's bullshit after bullshit with you.

Nobody is asking for right to groom kids on discord.
Nobody is asking for kids to play this games hell they are rated +18 all of them.
It's work of fiction. Simple as that it doesn't translate to reality nigger what is reality that Trump and pedos like him who actually fuck kids in real life i know this doesn't bother you and rest of roasties... and torture them while doing this but this isn't problem for you for you the problem is a fictional game that is marked +18. Which makes it even worse that they will ban this and then they will start banning games like GTA because some retard thinks that shoting people in games is bad. It's fiction get it in your head.

>freedom is where my feelings begin
you ban and try to outright damage control any criticism of the things you like, you do not get to talk about freedom of expression.
You do not even begin to understand what that means.

>>7661964
This only makes me believe even more that this entire group is a troll movement that has started to gain some real world pull.

>it's le work of fiction i am very smart!
midwit shut up

>>7661988
>>We can't see the future therefore we don't know if the slippery slope is gonna lead to porn ban
true
>I don't see why it won't happen 10-20 years from now
that's still just incredulity, though. I'm not claiming to know that there won't be such a ban in 10-20 years, I'm just point out (right here) that being incredulous about one possibility doesn't mean the opposite follows
>>Porn isn't free speech
not what I said. I specifically said "host[ing] pornographic content anywhere and everywhere"
>Also porn is free speech as it is legal
this would imply that the Supreme Court is infallible, which I'm sure you don't actually believe. so the "it's legal" argument doesn't work either.

>>7661996
N I G G E R doesn't even know how to use link and he pretends to be SMART holy fuck. Im done bye.

>>7661672
>No, shit. How is that a bad thing?
Payment processors should be neutral third parties who serve only as "switchboard operators" for people transferring money. That's part of the point of crypto. Governments made banks a non-trustless form of transfer, which left a market demand for a trustless form.

>But what exactly do you mean by, thirdies on credit?
Literally just getting them to do transactions with credit instead of cash. Visa and Mastercard have tapped out their growth (expansion of people opening new cards) in the USA, Europe, etc. This is bad for shareholder value for multiple reasons. Every transaction? They get a cut. This also "creates" money (temporarily, until such a debt is called in and it's cleared) so the more people on it, the more money they get. The transactions can be tracked much easier, not just for government purposes but also for big data purposes, to understand consumer spending. This is valuable information. And lastly, simply being able to go "We have a new adoption rate of X0000 people in the first quarter of launching in Bumfuckia, and we expect this to double with in the next quarter," also boosts the stock prices.

This has nothing to do with propping up a country's currency, and everything to do with them being financially incentivized to stick their thumbs in as many pies as possible. This is also why they support mass immigration btw - boosting the population of people not-on-credit in areas with more-free laws and card payments already established is way easier. None of this has anything to do with morality or supporting currencies.

>>7661899
mad? why would the anon be mad? You fags are the one having a melty cause your porn is getting banned.

>>7661725
You don't know how turdworld countries operate if you think this is true.
>>7661734
JCB isn't cucked like this because they ONLY operate inside japan, and thus only give a shit about japanese law. The lowest common denominator for japan is just following japanese law to the letter. The USA has no such equivalent cards.

>>7661999
>the "it's legal" argument doesn't work either.
NTA. You simultaneously claimed that rights don't exist and then turned around and said this, which would imply you don't believe in legal positivism. So either you made an unintentional contradiction or you're a nihilist.

>>7662026
>JCB isn't cucked like this because they ONLY operate inside japan
>JCB cards are issued in 24 countries

>>7662026
>NTA. You simultaneously claimed that rights don't exist and then turned around and said this, which would imply you don't believe in legal positivism. So either you made an unintentional contradiction or you're a nihilist.
it's called an internal critique. you don't have to say anything of your own worldview in order to critique another's. if the anon believes that the Supreme Court is fallible, which they likely do, then saying "well (right now) x is legal, so it is in fact free speech" would contradict their own worldview.

>>7662019
You are arguing that a business should remain neutral even when it's getting screwed with.
>let them do transactions with cards
lmao what? because they tapped out their growth? They literally earn money by moving money, what the fuck are you talking about? Any projected profits would be negligible.
>"we need more people to get into credit card debt because reasons like uuuuh money and big data"
You fucking midwit, you absolute fucking moron, you irredeemable shill. You cucked buzzword spamming retard.
Trying to argue you would be a waste of time.
Get fucked.

>UUUHM YEAH WE; THE BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION NEED SHITSKINS TO GO INTO CREDIT CARD DEBT THEY WILL NEVER PAY SO OUR MONEY AND DATA GO UP BECAUSE LE INVESTORS TO BOOST STOCK PRICES WHICH THEY WONT WHEN THE TURD WORLDERS GO INTO DEBT THEY WONT REPAY
Are you this retarded on purpose?

>>7662064
btw nevermind that south america and africa are flagged as high risk as well for obvious reasons. So why in the ever living fuck would any company take a huge gamble like that?
And that somehow is linked with the """"censoring of pornography""""

You are so fucking retarded if you're not an actual spam bot
holy shit

>>7662050
>>7662064
>>7662074
Three posts sperging out
Are you female by any chance?

>>7662050
>>7662064
>>7662074
>You are arguing that a business should remain neutral even when it's getting screwed with.
No I'm arguing that their business is just transferring money. They should just do that, and governments should not impose requirements that they proactively monitor transactions or hit the PROCESSOR (because they simply PROCESS ie allow payments to work between other people) with fines for it happening.
>They literally earn money by moving money
Yea but that's less important than simply continuing to expand.

What you're missing is that we live in a fake economy now. Most business decisions are not for the health of the business, it's for boosting the stock prices. The LARGEST investors in the US right now are BlackRock, State Street and Vanguard. These are, themselves, soulless data-driven blobs that are beholden to THEIR shareholders. While they own shares in each other, which is just financial incest at this point, that's not their main concern.

Their shareholders are primarily the public. Retirement accounts, mainly. But also anyone with just basic index fund investing. There are so many layers of separation between the millions of John Does and Mastercard that the only signal that comes through is "make ur number go up so my money appreciates faster than inflation." The easiest hack, as I'm sure you noticed from the gigantic startup (specific business model) boom of the past 2 decades, is to just spam growth.

Are you beginning to understand why everything is fucked?

Unironically based
Womenhate needs to end

>>7662078
sperging out? You zoomers really don't know what words mean anymore.
>>7662079
>and he keeps doubling down
Yes anon, next time i commission you and refund it, draw me some shit again.
Oh, you lost money? Well just be neutral and draw me the slop.
This is why i call you retarded.
It's a business that needs money to keep existing, this is not a matter of staying neutral when they are losing money through an unstable high risk market and you're making the argument that they want to enter other high risk markets because the youtuber told you they needed more people to scam them?
Like, what in the fuck is that type of schizophrenia? And of course they're also puritans who hate sex because they need to virtue signal.
it's the most retarded shit i've heard in a while.
It makes not even financial sense.
Even an investors would be outright fucking retarded to try to boost such stocks because payment processors are not a dynamic markets

Yeah yeah the economy is fake, lizardmen tongue my anus but i should probably like and subscribe to the youtube channel telling me all these things.

Fuck of man

>GAISE GAISE YOUTUBER HERE
>THE PURITANS HATE YOU AND WANT TO KILL YOU AND HATE VIDEOGAMES BUT ME; THE EPIC BASED YOUTUBER IS ON YOUR SIDE DID YOU ALSO KNOW THEY HATE SEX AND VIDEOGAMES NOT ME THOUGH I AM AN ALLY OOOOH THESE HECKIN PURITANS THAT WANT TO TELL YOU WHAT TO CONSUME!!! LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE TO MY PATREON THOUGH!
being chronically online has its merits because i can see and figure out all the bullshit

>>7662094
>this is not a matter of staying neutral when they are losing money through an unstable high risk market
I never said these were related concepts. The stance of neutrality is for when they get a call from a G-man who says
>Hey buddy, you let terrorists use your services. Pay a fine now.
Part of the reason these are high risk is due to chargebacks, yes. That's the foundation and it's not really fixable, besides accepting a bit higher fees. However, the risk ratchets up way higher due to interventions like Operation Chokepoint, FOSTA-SESTA, and AML laws.

>And of course they're also puritans who hate sex
They're not. I am arguing specifically AGAINST that narrative, because it's false.

>Even an investors would be outright fucking retarded to try to boost such stocks
That's what they do though. Investing isn't about keeping your money in one area anymore and seeing it grow, it's about getting in, getting a big hike, and then getting out to reinvest it. Companies are focused on boosting their quarterlies because investors operate on high time preference scales.

>you're making the argument that they want to enter other high risk markets
https://www.cgaa.org/article/master-card-ceo
>Master Card CEO Ajaypal Singh Banga has a clear vision for the company's future. He aims to expand Mastercard's presence in emerging markets, particularly in Asia and Africa.

This one is mainly about Europe (working on gobbling up domestic EU networks) but there's also info about the rest of the world:
https://www.popularfintech.com/p/card-payments-in-europe-are-booming
Particularly:
>“And I'm not seeing a short runway from where I sit. What I'm seeing is when we drive into these fast-growing economies, massive amounts of cash. You heard us talk about Africa, Asia and Latin America, 90% cash in Africa. You go into developed economies, still significant amounts of cash. Germany, Italy, Japan, 30%, 40% of cash out there.”

>Michael Miebach, Mastercard CEO, Investor Day 2024

>>7661926
I understand that ideology and the only defense I have is despite me considering all the mentioned acts inhumanely vile and would advocate for the most severe of punishment for most of them, I simply put pedophilia on a lesser pedestal that should not be touched unless to make poingant commentary, and only by the virtue of mentioning rather than depicting it.

It is a purely personal vendetta, which is all on me, merely the bare minimum of moral standard I accept on expression, and other than that, I do not believe is stifling of free expression by overreach the way payment processors are doing it.

>>7662106
Yes anon, investors need to be told their money will multiply or they'll pull out. Even investors know it's all lip service.
Taking those statements literally is simply naive; it's always 20% truth 80% dicksucking.
Most investors go to summits to network, not to get told their money will be more money.
Also why would you invest in visamc? Not to make millions, but to keep them.

>Operation Chokepoint, FOSTA-SESTA, and AML laws
Nice buzzwords, what am i going to do with them?
Should i magically be convinced by your arguments?
>"OH HE SAID WORDS THAT SEEM IMPORTANT HE MUST BE RIGHT"
Is that what you want me to think?
Yeah, god forbid institutions try to hinder illegal activity.

Anon, it isn't that deep.
Adult industry is cringe and scams a lot, Payment processors used the excuse of the femicunts to fuck them over so that they can put more guard rails against that industry.

All i see is shitskins believing they can't sell their shitty anime porn, youtubers fearmongers for views, kids being retarded faggots as usual and shitskin criminals trying to exploit the aforementioned groups to make noise.

All the shit you said is generally irrelevant to the current situation anyway. Makes me wonder why you have been posting this shit for months now, if not years

>>7661452 (OP)
Itch.io just removed any and all NSFW from searches and search suggestions. You need a direct link to access their pages now, and even then they're taking down lewd games one by one.

This is at the request of Visa, their reasoning is "having NSFW games on your site makes us look bad"

It's barely been a week and they've already moved from lolicons, rape and incest, to anything NSFW at all. Amazing.

>>7662122
>Nice buzzwords, what am i going to do with them?
If you're unfamiliar with what's been going on then why comment?
These are government interventions that are ostensibly to catch things but do nothing but cause regulatory burdens.
>god forbid institutions try to hinder illegal activity
I disagree with the ideologies that believe abridging liberty for that is a fine cost.

>Most investors go to summits to network, not to get told their money will be more money.
This isn't the 80s anymore. It's not singular high profile rich fuck investors, it's a bunch of passive investing via firms - more than the big 3 but they are BIG - that manage peoples' money now. There is nobody you can convince to not pull out, it's all data driven. A huge part of the economy is effectively under collective ownership by average people.
>it's always 20% truth 80% dicksucking
That's all you need to make the numbers go up.

Yes the adult industry has a lot of scams, it's not the relevant factor though. As said, they operated fine for years and just accepted higher fees as a compromise. If it were the ONLY thing, then the higher fees would offset the risks incurred from the chargeback rate alone. But it's not alone anymore, and the fees are going up astronomically due to all these other layers.

Your entire stance is either naiive or clinging to outdated econ.

>>7661452 (OP)
I wonder if anyone looked up the titles to see if it was just the straight stuff that was removed, and anything with the same level of LGBT content is still allowed and accepted.

>>7662143
The karens that are doing this are psycho libshitters teaming up with catholic karens. I think it's more of an anti-porn movement in general, no matter if it is straight or gay.

>>7662134
>If you're unfamiliar with what's been going on then why comment?
No, it's you who keep using those words as they are, hence buzzwords.
If you kept reading you would know i know what those are, which is strange since you disagreed with the statement.
>i disagree
Nigga how is not letting criminals and scammers do shit an infraction of liberties?
Don't answer, it's a rhetorical question and you will just say some dumb ass shit again.

>he still takes finance jargon and investor lip service literally
yeah, that's all i need to know about you

My entire stance is based on money, which is all i need to figure this shit out, not buzzwords and youtuber schizophrenia.

>>7662157
>Nigga how is not letting criminals and scammers do shit an infraction of liberties?
Requiring payment processors and banks to monitor transactions, block and report suspicious ones, and penalizing them if a no-no slips through the cracks is indeed an abridgement of liberties. The state should not be requiring private actors act as the unofficial eyes of law enforcement.

>finance jargon and investor lip service
I think it's fucking stupid, but the stock prices going up and the mass explosion of startups - whose value is fully based on growth and data collection, not a profitable business model - is obviously a different story.
>My entire stance is based on money
As is mine, and as I pointed out there's already compensatory mechanisms in place for the payment processors to maintain the same level of profit across all sectors regardless of risk. Altering fee amounts is what was done for years, but suddenly it's no longer sufficient. You may wish to ask yourself why and critique your own conclusion. For the longest time I thought it was JUST the high risk nature of things, but it's creeped far past that over the last decade+

RIP porn game artists.

This shit is too vague, it's broader than what they told Steam. And even if something is deplorable, it isn't the payment processor's place to decide how to moderate a platform. They take my money and they give it to someone else. If they think something is illegal they can report it and let the authorities handle it.

total porn death finally happened, took long enough.

>>7662174
Porn addicted virgins on suicide watch, anti-porn karen mommies rise up. Let's ban their romance novels now too, because they have rape, incest, and underage in them as well.

>>7662171
RIP and the P is for Piss

>>7662176
that just makes sense, really

>>7662171
Absolute cinematic experience

pornfags fucked around and found out

>>7662176
that as well then and same as OF. Glad you agree that this needs to happen, anon.

>>7662181
I don't agree with it, but I think, let's apply these rules equally!

>jews ban loli porn to push people to harm real children
interesting

>>7662171
>sexualized images of real people
>ai slop of real people
>gore
>lolisho
don't seem vague to me, it's just clean language that they're using

Coomers on suicide watch

>>7662183
>lolicons are pedos confirmed

>>7662183
>implying lolifags are pedos
I thought you all were attracted to the 2d anime characters and would never touch a real child even without loli stuff?

>>7662184
>Coomers on suicide watch
praise be

>>7662183
>NOOO LOLICONS AREN'T PEDO BUT NOT THAT LOLI IS BANNED THEY WILL DIDDLE KIDS. FUCKING JEWS!

>>7662183
lil bit of a freudian slip there mate

>>7661452 (OP)
Meh, just convenient scapegoat.

>seeks to ban all pedoshit, ai depiction of people, sexual violence, incest, etc.
It's a good day to not have terminal porn addiction. I don't give two shits about your "rights" and I don't care that you are being "censored". Die mad kek

ok ok but now they have to ban all novels AMIRITE? pls ban all novels but banning things i like is bad because le freedom of expression!

>>7662179
>>7662184
>>7662207
these are all me btw (I work for Visa)

>>7662185
>>7662186
>>7662191
>>7662193
>Either samefag or retards not realizing they're replying to someone who already agrees with them

>>7662207
>I don't give two shits about your "rights"
Found the socialist.

>NOOOO you have defend pedos right to exist because Muh Free Speach
Not even in the USA is pedophilia covered by first amendment and if was still wouldn't care about being a hypocrite because all pedophiles should die. Get fuck retards. Good on feminists for doing something right for a change.

>>7662234
Why do you refuse to specifically target the people who show an intent and desire to actually harm children?

>>7662234
Lolicon isn't pedophilia. Learn to distinguish fiction from reality.

It also isn't the only thing being targeted. It's just the most agreeable one to take down for most people. What about the rest?

>>7662244
>Lolicon isn't pedophilia. Learn to distinguish fiction from reality.
Trying to convince people like the anon you replied to via this line of reasoning won't work as it devolves into them playing semantic wordgames. The simple thing is that this kind of person refuses to specifically target only the people who have, are in the process of, or demonstrate intent to violate real children.

>NO ACKSH--
Don't care, doc

>>7662261
>Individual with pent up anger but no power looking for people who it's okay to let out that abusive impulse on
How about you go make vent art instead?

>you're LE angry and no power
i can simply say the truth and you will come yapping every time to try to damage control

i literally mind control you

>loli is not pedo because it's fiction
>argument falls apart when you point out that the subject of loli porn has extreme similarities to a real child
>"fiction" is used as a buzzword
>and when you don't accept their trickery they'll just tell you can't tell fiction from reality i.e. insults and attempts at humiliation + gaslighting
>and if you still don't agree with them, you're angry
it's exactly why no one will ever take their side and why lolishitters will never dare to go outside and convince people of what they say, because they know no one will buy their bullshit

lmao

>>7661834
I just saw a tranny flying over my house!... You fucking retards sure are obsessed with them

>>7662278
Still waiting for you to explain why you refuse to specifically focus your anti-pedo efforts on those who abuse or intend to abuse real children.

>>7662278
Ah i forgot this
>and if they still can't admit what their thing is, they will just tell you to go after real problems
it's the same script every time

>>7662287
If I use your definition of pedophilia then I'll just say only certain forms of pedophilia, the ones that abuse real children, should be criminalized.
It's like I can say I'm fine with forms of harassment if you define harassment to include gossiping to third parties, but can still be against specifically stalking behavior.

So if I accept your definition for the sake of argument and I still disagree that some forms of it are bad, now what? I don't care about the wordplay, I care about the substance of what the words are meant to signify. Address the substance rather than obfuscating it.

Why do you want to harm people who do not violate others?

Crazy how the "artist" board is more pro-censorship than /v/ which is mostly normalfaggot consoomers.
Western art is dead. Everyone cheers for the other to be censored so they get more likes on twitter. Absolute corporate vermins.

>i care about substance not semantics
>uuuuuhm loli porn isn't pedophilic because its not real and no harm comes to children because the definition say it must be harm to kids to be that
a nigga doesn't need to imagine why everyone is taking the feminists side on this even ironically

>>7662300
It's literally just one anti-porn childish retard

>>7662303
I explicitly said I'll agree - for the purpose of conversation to your definition.
As in, let's say lolicon IS a form pedophilia. That doesn't actually change anything about what my argument is, which is that only actions which violate another persons' rights are unethical. Child abuse (inlcuding CSAM) does violate someone's rights, while drawing or consuming lolicon does not. Someone who has a desire to do, or performs the former, regardless of whether or not he does the latter, is the kind of person who is a danger to others. But someone who ONLY does the latter is not.

>>7662309
I'm anti porn but I hate censorship way more. I side with the gooners on this one

>more word trickery
>more semantics
jeez Luise this is the guy who doesn't care about semantics

>>7662300
It's a good thing certain porn is taken out of circulation because then clinically retarded pedophile won't try to damage control when anyone calls their kiddy porn for what it is

>>7662321
Literally no semantic or word trickery involved.
If a person violates someone else's rights or demonstrates intent to do so, it's bad. Else it doesn't fucking matter.

Your retardation infringes my right to be free of expressing objective truth.
Stop violating my intelligence. You ain't smart.

>>7662317
>>7662317
Based. Freedom of association over censorious garbage.

Honestly if it weren't for all the red tape of government regulations we'd have more options besides crypto as alternatives to the big four (+ AmEx and Discover) that all do the same censoring and bullshit. Then we could have a payment processor who just handles the "less savory" things without being a nightmare of trying to appease everyone or using an entirely new and confusing tech system.

>>7662332
>my right to be free of expressing objective truth
>free of
So you're just sitting here intentionally lying then? Is that it?

Also the only consistent right is property rights, of which self-ownership is the core and from which all other ownership is derived.

>akshually ur lying

>>7662347
Are you ESL? "Free of" means the same as "free from" meaning you said, effectively, that I was infringing on your right to not-express objective truth, meaning to lie.

>you made a typo so ur esl and ur lying btw
you know that me replying doesn't mean anything, right?

>>7662351
Bro's an ESL for sure, mate

>>7662300
Brother we have a retard spamming this thread up constantly. I don't think it reflects /ic/'s opinions on it genuinely.

Better way to gauge it would be a poll

Angloids have reached such a level of retardation theyre calling their own kind the enemy out of spite and need to be constantly in the right.
This is what having english as your first language does to a motherfucker.

Yes brother everyone who doesn't agree is the heckin enemy esl who hates sex and freedom of speech not unlike us very literate individuals who have mastery over the significance of words whenever it suits our own interests

>>7662366
Sharty does like to troll this board a lot so it wouldn't surprise me. But we do have a bunch of ESL europeans and it's currently central/east euro prime time so it could be someone who is mad that he's being put in the same category as brown people despite the fact he's likely from a country that was conquered by mongols and turks for most of its insignificant history.

>>7662367
EFLs can't even comprehend their own language.
They just mimic speech and parrot words without truly knowing what they are conveying.

>>7662384
>mimic speech and parrot words without truly knowing what they are conveying
No wonder skinwalker stories are so popular over there.
:^)

>>7662326
>a video of someone raping a child is the EXACT SAME THING as this picture and as such it should be called the same thing

how do subhumans reach this conclusion?

>literal and visual strawman
>"i care about semantics but here is something that's not the subject"
too bland, needs more effort

>>7662389
I mean, read their posts. It's always the same phrases and fallacies done by thousands and repeated ad nauseum.
You can't convince me these are actual people.

>>7662393
Not one of them but their entire MO is that they don't care about it harming someone. Their morality is based one or more of a few ideas:
>Group Consensus
IE "this thing is bad because it's my group value, and so if you like such things you're part of the outgroup and I have every right to abuse you because it's only immoral to do forbidden acts against ingroup members or our group's allies." Letting anyone who is of the outgroup go unopposed is thus a threat to the ingroup's cohesion and ultimately power over society. This is common among people who are brainrotted by politics and see everything as a possible political camp.
>Deteminism
This is the belief that some people are just evil inherently and that it's a duty to root them out. The actual act of harming a child is then moreso viewed as strong evidence of a person's pedophilia, while things that don't involve it (such as lolicon) are considered to be "sus". The existence of a pedo going unfound is considered to be more damaging to society than the amount of people caught in the crossfire, and a single act of harm is seen as less important than the POTENTIAL for harm that they can cause by existing. This mindset effectively treats real life as a giant endless game of Amongus. These sorts of people tend to be extremely paranoid in general.
>Disgust-based Morality
In this one, they have no deeper reasoning. It's entirely "things that provoke disgust in me are bad, things that don't are tolerated, things I like are morally good (or morally neutral if accompanied by some level of shame)." The logic all goes down to reasoning from heuristics rather than deduction. This is common among people who are (or are ex-) religious, as well as those who haven't explored ideas that deeply. Some due to being younger and inexperienced, some from being in cultures where critique, including self-critique is seen as threatening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzBDXX048uk
>omg guys remember when WE talked about steam bending the knee and letting OUTSIDE COMPANIES DECIDE WHAT (YOU) can consume?
thank god im autistic and automatically immune to propaganda

My whole point is that if the fictional character looks a very specific way that it really doesn't let anything left to the imagination or interpretation, then it is what it is.

You just are trying to desperately argue against what everyone can see, which in turn makes your "modus operandi", since it's always the same story with you retards, quite suspicious, or you are genuinely fucking retarded illiterates.

>>7662422
>check payment processor tag on youtube
>it's all the same type of video repeating the same exact talking points and fearmongering and emotional appeals which all boils down to "payment processor bad porn game good" while asking to get donations on their patreons
Always do the opposite of what youtube commentators tell you to do

>>7662429
Your whole point is that people who fap to Misty from Pokémon should be treated the same as people who groom children. There's only one possible reason for someone to obsess over this, and it's not pretty.

One more thing to add to >>7662417 is that these ideas focus entirely on whether or not the PERSON is considered good or bad, not the actions. The actions are just seen as evidence of identity, and it's why they get so mad even at people who are not even lolicons but just defend it on principle. By doing so, they see it as you revealing to them that you are an enemy.

You can even see it here: >>7662429
Notice how he focuses on it being "suspicious" and invoking the idea of "everyone can see it" ie trying to imply he has group consensus. The intent of this is to shame those who are somehow still interested in fitting in with the ingroup he presumes is the majority, so they conform, and to provoke people who are from the outgroup in order to gain targets to attack.

Pointing this out will likely piss him off if his mind doesn't reject the rules of the social game his playing being laid bare, and result in another insult of non-substance to grandstand against those he believes to be subhuman, based purely on the idea anyone who opposes him or his group is automatically classed as subhuman.

>the intent is [insert emotional appeal here]
>we talking about loli so you're actually saying 17 years old yeah we fucking gottem sister now he angry
And you still don't realize why you get no sympathy?

At this point i'm siding with the enemy of the insufferable retards because it's just funny how they desperately try every single trick to weasel their way out of anything unsuccessfully

If lolishitters tried any of their semantics in court they'd get instantly sent to prison.

SHART*ID ZOOMER SPEAK:
>ESL
>GOON
>GOONING
>(...)BTW
>TRANNY
>PEDO
>PEDOPHILES
>LOLIPEDO
>NIGGA
>DISCORD


SHART*ID BEHAVIOR:

-OBSESSED WITH PEDOPHILIA AND PEDOPHILES

-OBSESSED WITH LOLICONS (THEY TRY TO BRING TO THE SAME LEVEL DRAWINGS and CSAM)

-OBSESSED WITH ALL NSFW CONTENT THAT IS FICTIONAL AND CREATED FOR THE MALE AUDIENCE

-EXTREME SAMEFAGGING TO SUPPORT THEIR OWN POSTS/RETARD TAKES

-WILL SUPPORT ANYTHING AND ANYONE CENSORING PEOPLE THAT THEY DON'T LIKE(le internet wars)

-WILL ATTACK ONLY VIRTUAL THINGS, THEY DON'T TOUCH THE REAL WORLD, IT'S TOO HARD FOR THEM

-TERMINALLY ONLINE. THEIR HOBBY IS TO WATCH AND TALK ABOUT WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING.

-WILL PRIMARILY TARGET EXTREME FETISHES, BUT IN THE ABSENCE OF THOSE, MAINSTREAM PORNOGRAPHY WILL DO JUST AS WELL.

-THINK THEIR SPAM DOESN'T GLOW IN THE DARK [LOW IQ]

-THEY DON'T ATTACK WOMEN PRODUCING REAL PORN. (BETA MALES).


They are spamming this thread. Their image board is absolute thrash(it looks like India), there is nothing going there, this is why they come here.

>And when all the insults and fallacies don't work, they'll start blaming boogeymen
Why are you so obsessed with nitpicking single words?
I thought you guys were the masters of language?

>>7662417
>>7662440
When you see any of the people (who am I kidding, it's one retard) complaining about this shit you can just refer back to these posts, and it will allow you to identify which form of midwittery is causing the person to get pants-shittingly mad about lolicons.

>and when all the trickery doesn't work, just say it's one specific person you made up in your mind and call them mad
>karen tactics 101

i should really make a documentary about this

>>7662539
There's no trickery. I simply think actions can be evil, not people inherently, I don't care about social clout for dunking on lolicons, and I have a robust system of ethics that I follow which precludes my personal taste.

idc about loli either
i just say it how it is
you're the one having an unironical meltdown

>>7662554
You have a very limited understanding of reality if you think anything you've posted so far is at all "how it is."

you have a very limited intellectual capacity if you think repeating the same things over and over makes them true

So anyway now that we've established for the nth time that loli is virtually cp while the trannies can't stop seething and repeating the same tired mantra of insults, we can say that the current bans aren't enough.
Don't reply to me with more canned replies, you're all so fucking boring and low iq you deserve all this shit and more.

>>7662590
>He thinks he's arguing with leftist trannies

>implying idk who i'm arguing with
get new material already

>>7662614
>posts cropped /ss/ art
Evidence of trolling at this point is overwhelming

>UR A TROLL
Nigga take the L and move on

lol fuck pedophiles imagine giving them any play at all. mentally stunted molestoniggers BTFOd

I FINALLY FUCKING MAKE IT AND EVERYTHINGS COLLAPSING
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
I CANT EVEN GET A FUCKING FAST FOOD JOB ANYMORE

>>7662451
Yes, you understand it then.
I'd rather a court handle them than a payment processor.

>>7662317
I dream of porn being removed from the internet but this is obviously happening because the jews want to force all the starved incels to use their own sites and pay for it too
I'm looking forward to getting stabbed for the $20 in my pocket by a rabid cumbrain who needs his fix of niggered

>>7661527
I asked /h/ a while ago and they told me SubscribeStar

>>7662999
>a while ago
this is happening days ago things could be changing real fast

>>7661479
judeo-anglo*

>>7663028
>things could be changing real fast
then the only acceptable answer is to wait and see, I guess. But it's not like this hasn't been slowly happening over the past decade. I recall it being big news when steam even started allowing porn on the platform, considering how few platforms actually will due to credit card gatekeeping. Maybe this will finally be enough to make substar shit bricks and redo their business model, IDK, but if you know a better platform, please share.

>>7663066
Fanbox or have your own website and accept payments via something like payment cloud or crypto. Or use zaps (another crypto thing) and some method to track who done it.

Every time I look for something its basically for normies or tech people.

I have been squawking about this for a while though - passive art income via crowdfunding methods is an unsustainable minefield for artists, because you're relying on some other platform to get paid. And you have far worse contracts with them compared to employment.
The only assured way is being paid DIRECTLY either as commissions or via direct donation, because there are already systems set up for that - both high risk processors and crypto.

>>7661926
>why is sexual violence treated differently from fantasy violence
women and men who listen exclusively to women. I'm not even saying they're wrong or they shouldn't think that, but it's simply the feminine perspective.

>>7662417
>>7662440
Absurdly reductive and disingenous. You outline strawmen of what you believe is an overzealous moral crusader arguing and then make an outrageous claim such as
>Not one of them but their entire MO is that they don't care about it harming someone.

No, you can care about both, for fuck's sake.

Art is commentary too. If you make art arguing for the equality of opportunity for races for example, doesn't mean you're arguing for the equality of races in some fictional realm.

Sexual art is distinct as in it is meant to be a direct substitute for the the real emotion.

Violent video games for example, apply to a vast variety of stimuli, not simply violence. If you have ever designed a video game, you would know.

Sexual videogames focus mostly on sexual stimulus.
I oppose lolicon art because it is meant to evoke a certain emotion, with no ambiguity and the act that it promotes is decisively immoral.

I do not attack the art by association to the offenders, I attack it by it's association to the idea. And yes, I can generalize this to all other porn too, but I betray my own morals to support freedom of expression there, of that I am guilty. Not lolicon and shotacon though. They rightly deserve bans.

But given that Steam and Itch never hosted those to begin with, I fully stand against this drive for ban. But please, consider looking in a mirror and not reducing other ideas into strawmen to attack.

>>7662091
>I need to stop people from hating me so I will do things they hate
this will only make womenhate increase as it's basically just a bunch of crusty old women making everyone else miserable with the most low-result goals possible. They could go after anything that's a real problem (domestic violence, rape, trafficking, etc) but they go after video games and drawings.

>>7662287
>2+2 is 5 you guys
>no it's 4
>you always say that, it's the same script every time

>>7662975
Don't forget that since they require government ID or facial scans to access their websites now, they get all of your personal information as well.

>>7663354
>You outline strawmen of what you believe is an overzealous moral crusader arguing and then make an outrageous claim
If they don't do that, they have no ground to stand on, no target to attempt to shame and are forced to argue on logic and objectivity which would let them them agree with their enemy, instead of demonizing their opposition by virtue of being against the thing they are defending by portraying the opposing speaker as irrational and hating them for no reason, thus making themselves the victim in the scenario, which makes them believe they are magically correct by virtue of being attacked, in the end behaving exactly like they claim their opposition to be but insisting that they "won" by virtue of pointing the finger at their opposition first.

You see this behavior in political propaganda and activism and amongst high school children and college students.
Ultimately this only radicalized rational people against them.

But the big epic twist is that he was "just pretending to be retarded" to "make people mad" and anyone who replied or doesn't take them seriously is mad and seething, "because they just are ok"?
I find this type of less than shitposting loop rather mind numbing, it makes you question if they actually are dead serious, especially since this isn't even original and you can go anywhere on the internet and spark these discussions and you will have the same canned replies every time that you might as well just be talking to the same person every single time.
The big question is; why do they bother? Because blue checkmarks on twitter farm replies and bait their responses for revenue?
If i made money by getting baited by these bots, i would also pretend to be mad and easily emotionally affected so they would keep engaging me.
But on here? There is no point in calling someone mad, because it genuinely makes you seem you are the one who is mad the more you keep insisting on trying to appoint an emotional state to someone.

>>7663373
I am that anon and man, even if I agree with you that that particular poster at that particular moment was engaging in that tactic, you're making the same reductive argument as him.

>>7663393
The difference is that i do not need to make up a strawman or invent life stories on anons since anyone can point out and see what i'm saying by reading those particular posts.
>you're making reductive argument
I made statement then the guy calling everyone a puritan who hates sex had to damage control and do all the mental gymnastics trying to fish for gotchas.
I wouldn't call this arguing. It was mostly me being curious about what he was going to post next so i could either confirm he was a shitter and just get to know their scripts.
All i had to do is give them attention.

>>7661452 (OP)
>Our only allies are sex traffickers, malware spam pornsites, and satanists, but we are the good guys!
pornfags be like

This is all planned. It's a good distraction, though. They want biometrics plain and simple.

This thread is an eye opener. I think porn belongs banned.

>I think
you're not certain? or do you not stand firm with your belief? quick to change sides when convenient?

>>7663423
nta, but it could simply be intellectual humility

>porntard instantly hostile
dont need to wonder why everyone is cheering your downfall

trannies are not everyone

>>7663422
That's fine, then speak to your representative and let the law handle it.

This is not Visa or Mastercard's place to do. In the past, they've always targeted the low hanging fruit first - but then it'll be things you care about later. Given how quickly they move on these things, you'll see soon enough.

>This is not Visa or Mastercard's place to do. In the past, they've always targeted the low hanging fruit first - but then it'll be things you care about later
insane how they keep parroting the same shallow talking points and expect people to believe them

>>7663518
Yeah don't believe it, I don't care. You're being proven wrong by credit card companies in real time. If you want to stick your head in the sand, just go do that instead of posting.

New visa/mc list just dropped, it's not just pedos rape and incest anymore.

>>7663528
Steam hosting a bunch of loli incest rape videogames doesn't mean payment processors were okay with it. Other than the hypnosis/non-con thing, nothing on your list should be news to anyone.

>the private company cannot decide who they let use their services because i'm personally and emotionally affected and the youtuber told me to be
>because the private company says things are not allowed that means i cant do them anymore
literally a fucking bot
don't talk to me man

>>7663528
Pissfags and sissy hypno trannies on suicide watch

>visa/mc ban list
>half mental illness shit
>half tranny shit
Ah, this explains EVERYTHING

fellow wholesome vanilla sex enjoyers we win once again

>>7663541
Horsecock futa consensual cockvore enjoyers also won.

>you capitalist pigs, don't take away my sissy hypno incest rape VNs!!! this goes against free speech!

>>7663541
Not so fast, did you clean your penis today? IS THAT SMEGMA I SEE? You're banned from sex.

>YOU CAPITALIST HECKINS STOP NOT ALLOWING ME TO MAKE MONEY WITH FUTA HYPNO LOLI INCEST PORN AAAAAH

>>7663552
Bully me more Visa chan!!

Everyone's a communist until you take their money away and tell them to get a real job.

Why don't hypno rape loli enjoyers just go to visamc's manager, shake their hand (if they are not disgusted by your sight), and ask them to allow to make money?

>>7663528
No depictions AT ALL even non-sexual of:
>Incest
>Self harm
>Anorexia
>Bulimia
>Content that promotes hate, harm, extremist ideologies
>Urine
>Meunstration
>Smegma
>Diapers

No SEXUAL depictions of:
>Firearms pointed at or towards individuals
>Vomit
>Illegal substances
>Drunk
>Drugged
>Hypnotized
>Mind controlled

visa/mc is the same girl, just the illusion of choice. Just like how there’s always a CVS and a walgreens next to each other.

>>7663566
Notice that poop is NOT on the list.
Scatchads confirmed Visa Mastercard approved

Support loli by drawing loli. Draw coom. Draw loom. Support freedom they are coming for all of us.

>>7663566
I don't like any of this either, but some of these are definitely overreach. I don't think being Anorexic, menstruating, urinating and not bathing are illegal, especially in non sexual contexts.

>>7663566
So, wait. You can't show a baby in diapers, characters have have any sort of self-inflicted wounds, or have a female character mention that periods exist?

This seems silly.

>>7663607
>The FDA regulates birth control products that are medical devices or drugs
you literally can't depict safe sex lmao

uh okay ill just draw lolis with massive breasts then

>>7663641
the future is now

>>7663528
>all those tags
RIP japanese economy