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Anonymous No.7663721 [Report] >>7663735 >>7663791 >>7663921 >>7663960 >>7664132 >>7664224 >>7664283 >>7664787 >>7665459 >>7665503 >>7667287 >>7667846 >>7668140 >>7668256
How do I get better at drawing if my drawings look this shitty? I tried using a reference and everything and it still ended up turning out this shitty. I don't know what else to do.
Anonymous No.7663735 [Report] >>7663748
>>7663721 (OP)
Keep drawing and following the tutorials
Take this from a permabeg
Anonymous No.7663736 [Report] >>7663740 >>7667846
Here's the reference I used.
Anonymous No.7663740 [Report] >>7663813
>>7663736
Improve your observation
Anonymous No.7663748 [Report] >>7663756 >>7663915
>>7663735
My problem is that a lot of the tutorials are too complicated for me and unintuitive. I can't figure them out. I've never seen any artist actually use the divided ball and plane method before.
Anonymous No.7663756 [Report] >>7663761 >>7663765
>>7663748
My boy
I used Loomis
Trust the process
How about you try to fix your line confidence and shapes first before heading into the head tutorials
Anonymous No.7663761 [Report] >>7663767
>>7663756
>How about you try to fix your line confidence and shapes
What tutorial did you follow for that?
Anonymous No.7663765 [Report] >>7663975
>>7663756
I've tried the divided ball and plane method before, but it looked too complicated for me. I can't figure out how to use it for anything other than a front or side view. Using a circle and lines feels better for me.
Anonymous No.7663767 [Report] >>7663775 >>7663871
>>7663761
None I just drew circles and squares and organic shapes in the back of my botebooks
Anonymous No.7663775 [Report] >>7663777
>>7663767
I have an entire notebook of squares that are wrong. I don't even know how to draw a cube properly.
Anonymous No.7663777 [Report] >>7663785
>>7663775
Then you are just simply retarded and no amount of help can save you. Good luck
Anonymous No.7663785 [Report] >>7663787 >>7663797
>>7663777
I have autism, ADHD and a learning disability. There are plenty of artists with my condition. Give me advice to help fix this.
Anonymous No.7663787 [Report] >>7663788
>>7663785
No
Anonymous No.7663788 [Report]
>>7663787
Why not? You seemed perfectly ready to give advice before.
Anonymous No.7663791 [Report] >>7663793
>>7663721 (OP)
You need to expand your visual library before you can hope to draw more complex/ accurate abstractions of life.

Set time for studies. Like you notice that your characters lack basic structural integrity - study anatomy and gestural drawing and apply what you've learned in your drawings from imagination.
Next you'll probably notice that some other aspect or your skillset needs to improve. Be it perspective or color the process is the same.

Don't make studying your main goal but don't neglect it either. In the beginner stages the most important thing is to get some mileage. If you're not having fun then you won't be motivated to keep going. So try and identify ways to go about improving that feels fun and exciting to you.

Best of luck :))
Anonymous No.7663793 [Report] >>7664311
>>7663791
What tutorials should I follow? Most of them seem overly complex and I'm not able to follow them.
Anonymous No.7663797 [Report] >>7663799 >>7663845
>>7663785
They're no clear way or advice on fixing your mental issues
We all have to find our own pace
There's no glitch no shortcut to git gud
All the tutorials are there to just give you a flicker on the road
You still have to figure out the road yourself
Anonymous No.7663799 [Report]
>>7663797
I've been trying for years and haven't been able to figure it out. I can't even make myself draw for more than thirty seconds before looking at something else most of the time. Thirty second increments is the most I can do.
Anonymous No.7663802 [Report]
thinly veiled howie thread please do not engage
Anonymous No.7663813 [Report] >>7663915 >>7664837 >>7666802
>>7663740
What tutorials should I follow? That's the main problem I'm having. Most of the tutorials I can't understand or apply them to what I want to draw.
Anonymous No.7663845 [Report]
>>7663797
I've already waited for like 6 years. Do I have to wait any more?
Anonymous No.7663871 [Report] >>7663903
>>7663767
Anonymous No.7663903 [Report] >>7663912
>>7663871
Try harder
They're not circles
Try drawing with your whole arm instead of just the shoulder
Anonymous No.7663912 [Report]
>>7663903
My shakiness stops that from working. That never works for me.
Anonymous No.7663915 [Report] >>7663920 >>7664353
>>7663748
>I've never seen any artist actually use the divided ball and plane method before.
That's because the way Art works is that as you git gudder you can do many of the steps "in your mind" without having to put them down on the page. It comes to you with practice or with gorging yourself on observing instruction until its firmly lodged in your mind. Then you gain the ability to simply "remember" how to do things and pre-do them in your head without needing to put it down on the page.

Much of layout tasks are like this. Drawing a circle to position and roughly size the head before you shape it is something that you might learn to do in your mind after enough time. But also this is why some artists are just shit teachers, because they don't really understand how to STOP automatically doing these things. They forgot what being a beginner is like.

>>7663813
Using a tablet pen is more like using a ballpoint than it is a pencil. Here is a basic tutorial on that: https://www.wikihow.com/Hold-a-Pen

Then you need to practice line control. Place 3 dots. Label them
>30
>15
>0
And set a timer for 30 seconds. Press start, and draw a line from the 30 to the 15 to the 0. Your aim is to reach the 15 and 0 at the same time as your timer reaches the 15 and the 0, without stopping the line or forcing it to "wiggle", it should be as smooth as you can manage. Do like 5 of these, then doodle something you like for fun. Then do 5 more if you still have the energy. Switch between vertical and horizontal and diagonal ones.

As it becomes too boring you can change it up by putting the dots in a V-shape instead of a straight line, adding more segments of 15 seconds each (so the first one being 45 instead), or doing both to create longer more complex paths.

PS: Calibrate your tablet by using a ruler to draw a line in your program of choice with the stabilizer off. If it wobbles, increase the stabilizer slightly and draw a new line using a ruler. Repeat until the wobble goes away.
Anonymous No.7663920 [Report] >>7663930
>>7663915
I've been using 100% stabilization on my tablet and I still wiggle too much, even drawing something like a curved line is super difficult for me. Its even worse with pencil and paper. My shakiness fucks me up.
Anonymous No.7663921 [Report] >>7663949
>>7663721 (OP)
You need to draw more still lifes. Especially of fruit.
Anonymous No.7663930 [Report] >>7663941 >>7664069
>>7663920
Having the stabilizer too high can be an actual problem since it disconnects your mind/eye from your hand. You have to do the process I outlined.

Beyond that, do the line control practice I stated.

You WILL fuck it up. But as long as you pay attention it will get better.

Oh, one other tip: Try to keep your eyes just barely ahead of your cursor/pen tip. This may feel weird and can be a struggle but you will get used to it with time, and it immensely helps your control.
Anonymous No.7663941 [Report]
>>7663930
My problem is that there's a wobble no matter what method I try or how high I set the stabilizer. I'll try working on pencil and paper and do your outline, but it probably won't be any good. I'm unable to do it right now.
Anonymous No.7663945 [Report]
Why does Howie get his own general when I don't?
Anonymous No.7663949 [Report] >>7663953 >>7663962
>>7663921
I don't just want to draw simple objects. I want to draw characters. I don't want to spend a ton of time making drawings of just objects. What's actually going to be demoralizing is drawing simple objects because I'm not good enough at the stuff I actually want to draw.
Anonymous No.7663953 [Report] >>7663955
>>7663949
>I don't want to spend a ton of time
And yet you spent years making threads and not drawing. Less threads, more drawing.
Anonymous No.7663955 [Report] >>7663957
>>7663953
Yeah because I couldn't make myself focus for long enough to actually do any drawing. Now I can, and I'm quickly going nowhere.
Anonymous No.7663957 [Report]
>>7663955
Less posts, more drawing.
Anonymous No.7663960 [Report] >>7664254
>>7663721 (OP)
>year after year people are still replying to the howie schizo
all I can do is laugh at this madness
Anonymous No.7663962 [Report]
>>7663949
>I don't want to spend a ton of time making drawings of just objects.
You can use anime figurines or similar "entertaining objects" as practice, but your line control is the first thing to work on and it will translate into your character doodles.
Anonymous No.7663975 [Report] >>7664022
>>7663765
That's one thing where you're better than at least a few begs: you refuse to use the wrong tool.
Divided ball and plane is for when you want to draw realistic faces or 1950s-style cartoons (like the old Superman comics). "Moe" anime faces do start with just a circle.
Doing otherwise is like trying to cook a stew while reading a recipe for a beef pie.
Anonymous No.7664022 [Report] >>7664029 >>7664064
>>7663975
How about more traditional adult character cartoon faces or adult anime character faces? Do I use divided ball and plane then?
Anonymous No.7664029 [Report] >>7664033 >>7664050
>>7664022
Draw what you see, you little pre/beg/ shit. At this point you're still using references and you're not making any original work. So learn copying correctly first. There's no divided ball and plane in your reference. So don't draw it.
Anonymous No.7664033 [Report] >>7664037
>>7664029
He can't even copy so that it even resembles the ref after drawing for years. He is beyond saving bro
Anonymous No.7664037 [Report] >>7664040
>>7664033
>after drawing for years
*after NOT drawing for years
Anonymous No.7664040 [Report]
>>7664037
That doesn't change my point in the slighest.
Anonymous No.7664050 [Report] >>7664054
>>7664029
That didn't answer my question. How about more traditional adult character cartoon faces or adult anime character faces? Do I use divided ball and plane then?
Anonymous No.7664054 [Report] >>7664057
>>7664050
Draw what you see, you little pre/beg/ shit. At this point you're still using references and you're not making any original work. So learn copying correctly first. There's no divided ball and plane in your reference. So don't draw it.
Anonymous No.7664057 [Report] >>7664060 >>7664065
>>7664054
That didn't answer my question. How about more traditional adult character cartoon faces or adult anime character faces? Do I use divided ball and plane then?
Anonymous No.7664060 [Report] >>7664169
>>7664057
Did I fucking stutter? Learn copying first.
Anonymous No.7664064 [Report]
>>7664022
Adult anime probably uses something similar to the divided ball and plane, but you'll have to look that up. "Use the Google, Luke"
I have no idea about contemporary TV cartoons, they're all tough to break down, and many of them have unique styles that don't belong to the same tree as Family Guy.
Anonymous No.7664065 [Report]
>>7664057
How are you this dense
Anonymous No.7664069 [Report] >>7664075
>>7663930
Isn't the whole point that to make good lines I have to draw fast?
Anonymous No.7664075 [Report] >>7664092
>>7664069
You can learn to draw fast once you learned how to draw correctly.
Anonymous No.7664092 [Report] >>7664095 >>7664311
>>7664075
Am I doing your exercise with normal pen and paper or on the tablet?
Anonymous No.7664095 [Report]
>>7664092
Since you want to draw digital you practice with digital.
Anonymous No.7664132 [Report] >>7664164
>>7663721 (OP)
Idk how you are using the ref but if you look at it, you can see where every line is supposed to go.
Anonymous No.7664164 [Report] >>7664170 >>7664311
>>7664132
Yeah, but I keep fucking it up.
Anonymous No.7664169 [Report] >>7664173
>>7664060
I want to draw the shit that I want to draw.
Anonymous No.7664170 [Report] >>7664189 >>7664207
>>7664164
Do it until you do not fuck up. It's not like you don't have ctrl+Z.
Anonymous No.7664173 [Report] >>7664183 >>7664183 >>7664189 >>7664199
>>7664169
That's all nice and shit but how are you going to draw it when you can't even copy from reference? Copying from your own brain is even harder than copying what is in front of you.
Anonymous No.7664183 [Report]
>>7664173
I'm trying to do both and failing it seems like.
>>7664173
Another problem is that I don't know how to get into that flow state when I'm drawing. I can only focus in like 30 second increments.
Anonymous No.7664189 [Report] >>7664213 >>7664218
>>7664170
Okay. How do I get into the flow state like everyone else is able to do when I'm drawing?
>>7664173
How do I make it so that my brain doesn't go all over the place while I'm drawing and I can't even comprehend something simple as drawing hair. I keep fucking up everything I make because I can't think straight. And yes, I'm on medicine.
Anonymous No.7664199 [Report] >>7664216
>>7664173
I'm trying to use both the Loomis method and copying at the same time so I can learn how to do either.
Anonymous No.7664207 [Report] >>7664216
>>7664170
Should I use the Loomis methods while I'm drawing or no?
Anonymous No.7664213 [Report]
>>7664189
By doing it every day until it becomes less of a chore.
Anonymous No.7664216 [Report] >>7664220
>>7664207
>>7664199
That's not how it works. Use the "copy the reference exactly as you see it" method.
Anonymous No.7664218 [Report] >>7664220
>>7664189
All you need to do is look at the ref, pick a line and try to draw it. The ref gives you immediate feedback if your line is wrong. If you mess that up, you did it on purpose. You have as long as you need to observe, measure, and ctrl z.
Anonymous No.7664220 [Report] >>7664225
>>7664216
No, I want to learn construction so I can make shit on my own.
>>7664218
I've been trying that, and that's what resulted in the image you saw above. I'm gonna try drawing it again today.
Anonymous No.7664224 [Report] >>7664241
>>7663721 (OP)
Your lines look wobbly and timid. Practice drawing lines and shapes to build confidence here.
You lack cartoon anatomy understanding. Just draw and study from different cartoons until you learn the language.

It doesn't look terrible and if you showed this to people you work with they probably would give you the old "wow I can't even draw stick figures!"
Anonymous No.7664225 [Report] >>7664233 >>7664241
>>7664220
>No, I want to learn construction so I can make shit on my own.
You will not be able to learn anything if you can't draw lines where they're supposed to go. Learn copying first.
Anonymous No.7664233 [Report] >>7664239
>>7664225
If I try this method, I might end up losing my motivation immediately because of my ADHD. I want to just draw what I want.
Anonymous No.7664239 [Report] >>7664249
>>7664233
You're already spending days on copying a reference and you haven't even finished it.
There's no magic shortcuts. Either you do it or you don't. Especially with your brain damage you will have a harder time than anyone else.
Anonymous No.7664241 [Report]
>>7664225
My problem is that if I try this method; I'm afraid I'll lose all my motivation immediately because of my ADHD. I want to get good at drawing fast to make up for all the wasted years I've spent not drawing. That's my issue.
>>7664224
Where do I go to find out more? I need guides that aren't overly complex.
Anonymous No.7664249 [Report] >>7664250 >>7664311
>>7664239
My problem is that I can barely make myself, I'm always distracted and can't get into the flow state like everybody else can. That never happens to me.
Anonymous No.7664250 [Report] >>7664253
>>7664249
Not my problem. Go draw more, you lazy shit. Less talking, more drawing. There's no shortcuts.
Anonymous No.7664253 [Report] >>7664255 >>7664311
>>7664250
How do I make myself get into that flow state? I draw for thirty seconds before I get distracted and stop.
Anonymous No.7664254 [Report]
>>7663960
You may view it as a positive. At least there's rotation of anons in /ic/ - skilled artists get out of this hellholle and get replaced with new clueless begs. If people recognised howie every time, it would be a sign of stagnation.
Anonymous No.7664255 [Report] >>7664257
>>7664253
Not my problem. Go draw more, you lazy shit. Less talking, more drawing. There's no shortcuts.
Anonymous No.7664257 [Report] >>7664259
>>7664255
How do I make myself get into that flow state? I draw for thirty seconds before I get distracted and stop. I'm directly asking how to make myself draw more.
Anonymous No.7664259 [Report] >>7664262
>>7664257
Not my problem. Go draw more, you lazy shit. Less talking, more drawing. There's no shortcuts.
Anonymous No.7664262 [Report]
>>7664259
How do I make myself get into that flow state? I draw for thirty seconds before I get distracted and stop.
Anonymous No.7664283 [Report] >>7664285 >>7664292
>>7663721 (OP)
I don't understand your kind. You're able to write legible text and use the English language. You're using a phone/computer and able to navigate websites and how to post things. Yet, your artwork literally looks like you are 8 years old. Do you struggle in other areas of life? Was school extremely hard for you? Do you rely on caretakers to survive? If you have this much visual difficulty copying simple cartoons - what about driving? Do you dress yourself? What's going on here
Anonymous No.7664285 [Report]
>>7664283
I have autism, ADHD and a learning disability along with tremors and thyroid problems.
Anonymous No.7664291 [Report] >>7664296
>"I'm missing a leg and also I'm living in the Mexican jungle. Give me actual advice how I become an Olympic runner!"
Anonymous No.7664292 [Report]
>>7664283
And I can't drive either.
Anonymous No.7664293 [Report]
https://warosu.org/ic/thread/7491598#p7497899
DO
NOT
INTERACT
Anonymous No.7664296 [Report] >>7664300
>>7664291
There are plenty of people who have my condition and can draw.
Anonymous No.7664300 [Report] >>7664303
>>7664296
Wrong. There are none.
Anonymous No.7664303 [Report] >>7664308
>>7664300
There's plenty. What the fuck are you talking about? Have you seen a single Twitter artist bio?
Anonymous No.7664306 [Report] >>7664310 >>7664332
How the fuck are you still working on this same thing, and how the fuck are you only this far along?
Anonymous No.7664308 [Report] >>7664314
>>7664303
If you're so sure they have the same condition, ask them for advice.
Anonymous No.7664310 [Report] >>7664318
>>7664306
I get distracted constantly, I can only make myself work in 30 second increments even on meds, I can't figure out how the fuck to actually draw what I'm looking at. There's a ton of different reasons.
Anonymous No.7664311 [Report]
>>7664253
>>7664249
>>7664164
>>7663793
>>7664092

howie at his finest <3
Anonymous No.7664314 [Report] >>7664318 >>7664324 >>7665538
>>7664308
How about give me advice because that's what the fuck I made this thread for.
Anonymous No.7664318 [Report] >>7664319 >>7664357
>>7664310
>>7664314
I thought there was some hope for you but it seems there isn't.
Yes, you should give up. And they should revoke your internet license. People like you shouldn't be allowed outside or on the internet.
Anonymous No.7664319 [Report] >>7664325 >>7664330
>>7664318
Stop trying to demoralize me. Give me actual advice.
Anonymous No.7664324 [Report]
>>7664314
Everyday you get 10x more advice than any aspiring beg yet you always need more. Sad.
Anonymous No.7664325 [Report] >>7664329
>>7664319
Figure it out on your own. Goodbye.
Anonymous No.7664329 [Report]
>>7664325
I can't figure it out on my own, which is why I'm asking here.
Anonymous No.7664330 [Report] >>7664335
>>7664319
I would enjoy my neetbucks and watch long-form youtube essays about various topics while slowly working my way through gba/psp/ps1 best titles. Accept you're too retarded to do art. Maybe get obsessed with sonics feet. Art isn't for you. You are too retarded.
Anonymous No.7664332 [Report]
>>7664306
>How the fuck are you still working on this same thing, and how the fuck are you only this far along?
SO THEN WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO? HOW DO I MAKE MYSELF DO THIS ANY FASTER?
Anonymous No.7664335 [Report] >>7664340
>>7664330
There are plenty of people with my condition that make great artwork. Give me actual advice.
Anonymous No.7664340 [Report] >>7664345
>>7664335
Name 1 and ill give you the secret guide to drawing nobody has told you yet.
Anonymous No.7664345 [Report]
>>7664340
Stop trolling and give actual advice or leave the fucking thread.
Anonymous No.7664353 [Report] >>7664355 >>7664361 >>7664384 >>7664542
>>7663915
I just tried your test. Here's how that went. My shakiness and my bad hand writing shows here.
Anonymous No.7664355 [Report]
>>7664353
This was without any stabilizer.
Anonymous No.7664356 [Report] >>7664357 >>7664361
Anonymous No.7664357 [Report] >>7664367
>>7664356
>>7664318
What's the lore behind the fisheye look to these?
Anonymous No.7664361 [Report]
>>7664356
I'm literally doing that right now with the OP picture and this >>7664353
Anonymous No.7664362 [Report] >>7664363
>/rbg/ - Retard Babysitting General
Anonymous No.7664363 [Report] >>7664369 >>7664390
>>7664362
Fuck off and get out of my thread if you're not going to offer any advice.
Anonymous No.7664367 [Report] >>7664564
>>7664357
Probably miku monitoring
Anonymous No.7664369 [Report] >>7664373
>>7664363
Single people don't deserve threads. Go to /beg/.
Anonymous No.7664373 [Report]
>>7664369
How about give advice since the thread is already here?
Anonymous No.7664384 [Report] >>7664388 >>7664392
>>7664353
Successfully tricked howie into drawing pubic hair. Nice
Anonymous No.7664388 [Report] >>7664392
>>7664384
To me it looks like Trump's signature
wait a sec, there's knocking at my cell door, gonna check it real qui
Anonymous No.7664390 [Report] >>7664392
>>7664363
KILL YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous No.7664392 [Report] >>7664399
>>7664388
>>7664384
>>7664390

You know, if you engaged with me sincerely and gave actual advice, this could be over much quicker.
Anonymous No.7664399 [Report] >>7664402
>>7664392
Yeah and we'd hit record times if your sorry ass got banned for this self-obsessed bullshit. Alas!
Anonymous No.7664402 [Report] >>7664408
>>7664399
You know, if you engaged with me sincerely and gave actual advice, this could be over much quicker.
Anonymous No.7664407 [Report]
Man... I can't spend my last day on this IP playing around with this faggot. Have a good life, Howie.
Anonymous No.7664408 [Report] >>7664412
>>7664402
Why are you larping as someone trying to learn how to draw? Frankly its pretty inconsiderate to actual disabled people who would love to get as much advice as you do.
Anonymous No.7664412 [Report]
>>7664408
Translation: I don't understand your problem and I don't want to put in the effort to listen and understand, so I will just create a strawman where I replace your problem with a more common and easily solved one and paint you as morally deficient to feel better about my lack of ability to give advice and be empathetic. Not only that, but I will gaslight you about your condition and gladly push you over the edge into suicide because your very existence causes me butthurt, as it reminds me of my limited understanding of the world and the human psyche. Please, I need you to either shut up or die, so that I can preserve my simple minded conceptualization of a just world where mental illnesses can be solved with a stabilizer and just trying harder.
Anonymous No.7664446 [Report] >>7664505 >>7664556
Okay, so, trying this again. Here's my progress.
Anonymous No.7664461 [Report] >>7664466
HOWIE
SLIDE
THREAD
Anonymous No.7664466 [Report]
>>7664461
I'm literally drawing like everyone here wanted me to. Now, nobody is saying anything? Why?
Anonymous No.7664492 [Report]
Anonymous No.7664505 [Report] >>7664512
>>7664446
Honestly you're pretty clearly too pre-/beg/ for even construction. You're going to be better off just trying to raw dog a copy to get started
Anonymous No.7664512 [Report] >>7664526
>>7664505
I don't want to have to just copy everything. I want to make things on my own and learn construction.
Anonymous No.7664526 [Report] >>7664537
>>7664512
Yeah but right now you can't construct OR copy
Anonymous No.7664537 [Report]
>>7664526
Okay, so what do you call this?
Anonymous No.7664542 [Report] >>7664559
>>7664353
Good. Now do the ruler thing to adjust your stabilizer such that ANY wobble is in your movements, not the tool.

Then do it again.
And again.
And again.
And again. And keep doing it. Try different postural positions and angling of the tablet, try paying attention to how you move your muscles.

When you get tired, draw a doodle. Don't worry about construction or anything, just draw directly. No undos, no erasing- imagine you were drawing in ballpoint pen. It doesn't matter if you think it looks like shit, it's just for fun in the act and to make something exist.

Then do more of the line control practices.

That is all you have to do for the next month. Line control, and doodles. Don't even need to reply here anymore unless you have a S.M.A.R.T. question:
>Specific
>Measurable
>Action-oriented
>Relevant
>Time-bound

IE "How do I get good?" is a bad question. "What are some good tutorials?" is a bad question. "Does anyone have a video tutorial for constructing adult anime heads that is under 5min long or more pictures than words?" is a good question.
Anonymous No.7664556 [Report] >>7664559 >>7664577 >>7664580
>>7664446
Observe here.
First make a circle, then copy the green line as in this picture.
Then copy the red lines.
Try to get the angles as accurate as possible. Observe carefully before and after copying. If you're failing to observe, make a transparent selection of your circle and drag it over the reference image to see if anything is wrong.
Anonymous No.7664559 [Report] >>7664571 >>7664585 >>7664627
>>7664556
I don't want to have to just copy everything. I want to make things on my own and learn construction.
>>7664542
That's too much text. I can't motivate myself enough to read all that.
Anonymous No.7664564 [Report]
>>7664367
Excuse me?
Anonymous No.7664571 [Report]
>>7664559
Copying in the way I described is a kind of construction. If you learn it, you'll then be able to construct things without a reference.
Anonymous No.7664577 [Report]
>>7664556
Bro wtf is that God awful "construction"? You should not be giving advice if you need to use shape and line tools
Anonymous No.7664580 [Report] >>7664591
>>7664556
How should I do this if the picture is from a side or front view for instance?
Anonymous No.7664585 [Report] >>7664608
>>7664559
OP are you medicated? If your ADHD is so bad you can't read for 20 seconds then you are severely fucked in the head. Get some motherfucking medication so you can be somewhat normal. Otherwise you should honestly just end your life. Being you currently sounds worse than torture. I'll stop here before this post gets too long.
Anonymous No.7664591 [Report] >>7664597 >>7664603 >>7664614
>>7664580
Side view or front view, it's always the same process: a circle or oval shape for the outline of the head/face, a line for the eyes, a line for the middle of the face.
Anonymous No.7664597 [Report]
>>7664591
OP if you actually want to get good, stop listening to begs like this.
Anonymous No.7664603 [Report] >>7664610
>>7664591
Is the green line the one for the middle of the face?
Anonymous No.7664607 [Report]
>I have autism, ADHD, syphilis, no legs, no RAM, a learning disability, and also I'm legally blind.
Anonymous No.7664608 [Report]
>>7664585
Yes, I'm on medication. Currently on antidepressants and stimulants along with some thyroid medication. My reading span has gotten longer since I've been adjusting.
Anonymous No.7664610 [Report] >>7664628
>>7664603
Gee, what do you think? Does the green line have a nose on it? Is it between the eyes?
Anonymous No.7664614 [Report] >>7664644
>>7664591
I mean, where would the green line go if it was from a side or front view?
Anonymous No.7664627 [Report]
>>7664559
>That's too much text. I can't motivate myself enough to read all that.

do the ruler thing to calibrate your stabilizer

Do the line control exercises, repeat them.
While doing them, pay attention to your posture and how you move your arm and your body.

When you get tired of that, doodle anything you like, for fun. Just no undo or erasing.

Then do more line control practices.

Do that for a month. Only those two. Anything else, treat as a distraction.

-----

Do not ask anything else here in that time frame. Do only those practices and doodles.
Anonymous No.7664628 [Report]
>>7664610
I mean, where would the green line go if it was from a side or front view?
Anonymous No.7664644 [Report] >>7664700
>>7664614
It's only meant to define the outline of the face.
In a front view, it would go on both sides of the face, like in pic related. In a side profile view, there would be no green line.
Anonymous No.7664685 [Report] >>7665963 >>7665965
is this the "7 months" spammer? is he STILL fucking going since what, 2018? I know the scribble spammer is still spamming so I imagine it's the same guy
holy shit this site. bots and low functioning autists
I miss old /tg/ so much. It's all ai cancer and chatgpt now
the raiding troons won
Anonymous No.7664700 [Report]
>>7664644
What should I do for the ears?
Anonymous No.7664701 [Report] >>7664708 >>7664743 >>7664746
Is he really going to ask about every single step?
Anonymous No.7664708 [Report]
>>7664701
just assume it's all bots talking to each other
Anonymous No.7664743 [Report] >>7664745
>>7664701
Yes, because I don't know what I'm doing.
Anonymous No.7664745 [Report]
>>7664743
Livestream so we can help in real time.
Anonymous No.7664746 [Report] >>7664846 >>7667629
>>7664701
it's a troll retard
Anonymous No.7664767 [Report]
Here's what I've got so far.
Anonymous No.7664771 [Report]
>unironically have all of the same problems as Howie with no irony + cerebral damage that causes me difficulties with spatial awareness and mobility
>draw anyway despite sucking and almost never ask for help
of howie was real howie wouldn't still be asking, he'd have accepted his fate
Anonymous No.7664787 [Report] >>7664819
>>7663721 (OP)
what is the problem? You're on the right path.

here is no way to get better without drawing shitty things, just pick something to improve on for your next drawings. But here are some things that helped me

When you reference art, only reference real life bodies. The purpose of referencing as a beginner is to hammer in good habits. You will naturally cartoonify it with your inaccuracies so copying other drawings doesn't really help improve your proportions.

UNLESS you are referencing naked models in anime style. Then you'd be learning better than if you were copying finished pieces that are very specific. For example, drawing this isn't really making you better, but it was for fun and that's improtant too. To draw with the intent of improving, you need to reference useful things.

There is one way referencing finished drawings can help, and its if you try to xerox copy it 1:1. This will train your observation skills. You can see how your drawing has different sizes and angles for things than the reference, if you want to copy it EXACTLY, then you will be training your accuracy. This is good too, but I am assuming you wanted to copy the mood and subject more and that you would have been happy if you drew a slightly different expression or angle. This is very hard to do and is what referencing is for people who already know how to construct bodies.

If you draw for fun, then draw for fun. Stop worrying about the details until after you're done and really want to do better at a particular things.
Anonymous No.7664792 [Report] >>7664831
I'm having trouble with her left eye, am I doing this correctly?
Anonymous No.7664814 [Report] >>7664831
I think I managed to get it down.
Anonymous No.7664819 [Report] >>7664832
>>7664787
you wrote an essay and he just ignores you. fucking lmao
Anonymous No.7664831 [Report] >>7664835
>>7664792
>>7664814
the line down the middle is not a rule, its just one technique to make it easier. If it doesn't make it easier, use different guides. Put lines on the reference image and then try to put the same lines on your circle, do whatever it takes to put the eye on without any trouble, that's the point of these guides.

If you're having trouble, then the fucking lines aren't helping, so you need to put them on the reference and find what makes it easy for you.
Anonymous No.7664832 [Report]
>>7664819
Because none of that was useful to me. I don't want to draw real bodies, I want to draw fictional characters. I can't use real life studies for that.
Anonymous No.7664835 [Report] >>7664840
>>7664831
>use different guides
What different guides and what techniques?
>Put lines on the reference image and then try to put the same lines on your circle, do whatever it takes to put the eye on without any trouble, that's the point of these guides.
How do I do this on FireAlpaca?
Anonymous No.7664837 [Report] >>7664839 >>7664841
>>7663813
this isn't something you need a tutorial for, what the actual fuck?
nigger did you need a youtuber to teach you how to think or how to see? I swear you cunts need tutorials for literally the simplest things with the most obvious answers possible because you're too brain rotted to problem solve.
take a look at your drawing, then look at your reference. What looks off?
change what looks off, then go back to step 1.
Anonymous No.7664839 [Report] >>7664848
>>7664837
The problem is that I have to take liberties sometimes because the reference and the drawing aren't going to look exactly the same. And I don't know what to do with those liberties or implement them in a way that still looks good.
Anonymous No.7664840 [Report] >>7664842
>>7664835
try putting another horizontal line under the eyes. The first one is touching the top of the eyes and thats good, so maybe one on the bottom will help you with keeping the size consistent.
Anonymous No.7664841 [Report]
>>7664837
I have autism, ADHD, syphilis, no legs, no RAM, a learning disability, five smartphones, and also I'm legally blind
Anonymous No.7664842 [Report] >>7664843
>>7664840
Okay. How do I put the lines on the reference and trace over the reference on FireAlpaca?
Anonymous No.7664843 [Report] >>7664845
>>7664842
forget putting the lines on the reference if you dont have them on the same canvas in the first place
Anonymous No.7664845 [Report] >>7664864
>>7664843
How do I put the lines on the reference and trace over the reference on FireAlpaca? Seriously. Just fucking tell me the technique so I can use it later.
Anonymous No.7664846 [Report]
>>7664746
Yeah, I know people want to believe Howie is real, but this guy is clearly trolling.
Anonymous No.7664848 [Report] >>7664851 >>7664853
>>7664839
you have to learn to walk before you can run, grasshopper.
you don't start to take liberties and make up your own shit without understanding fundamentals.
There's a reason basically every famous cartoonist knows how to draw hyper realistic shit as well.
Anonymous No.7664851 [Report]
>>7664848
How do I put the lines on the reference and trace over the reference on FireAlpaca? Seriously. Just fucking tell me the technique so I can use it later.
Anonymous No.7664852 [Report] >>7664854
>"Fuck you! Help me or leave my thread!!"
>"Hey... guis.... I am drawing...... why is no one replying...???"
Anonymous No.7664853 [Report]
>>7664848
I want to get good fast to make up for all my wasted years that I spent not drawing.
Anonymous No.7664854 [Report] >>7664862
>>7664852
So are you admitting that people come on here just to troll me and not offer any actual advice?
Anonymous No.7664862 [Report] >>7664863
>>7664854
Serious question, do you think it is possible that you are to blame for your inability? Not the trolls, your mental conditions or your living situation. You. Yes or no
Anonymous No.7664863 [Report] >>7664867 >>7664874
>>7664862
I'm asking for advice on how to work the most basic shit in FireAlpaca and people can't even give me answers to that. So, yes. I'm thinking that the trolls are to blame.
Anonymous No.7664864 [Report] >>7664866
>>7664845
I dont know what firealpaca is, if the ref is not on a drawing program then you cant draw over it, so if your ref is on another screen then idk. Its not a big deal anyways, it was just a possible idea
Anonymous No.7664866 [Report] >>7664906
>>7664864
Okay, so then what do I do? I'm trying literally everything you guys are asking me and so far it's done jack shit. I've even put the lines over the eyes like you said and it looks like it's too short.
Anonymous No.7664867 [Report] >>7664869 >>7664878
>>7664863
It's clearly us who are failing here. Because we can't spoonfeed a literal brain damaged retard who could never motivate himself in his life. It's not your fault. It's us.
Anonymous No.7664869 [Report] >>7664872
>>7664867
>Asks for the most basic advice on how to draw
>Anons don't give it and instead troll
>People come into the thread to try and demoralize, not offering up any actual advice
Yeah, I'd say you guys are a pretty big problem.
Anonymous No.7664872 [Report] >>7664875
>>7664869
And yet you still come here.
Anonymous No.7664874 [Report] >>7664875
>>7664863
I asked you a direct question and you can't give me a direct answer?
Anonymous No.7664875 [Report] >>7664877 >>7664883
>>7664872
Yeah. An art board is typically a pretty good place to go for help with art.
>>7664874
I literally answered, yes. You guys are the problem.
Anonymous No.7664877 [Report] >>7664879
>>7664875
And yet we haven't given you ANY useful advice in three years.
Anonymous No.7664878 [Report] >>7664880 >>7664881
>>7664867
I thought we were teaching him wrong as a joke
Anonymous No.7664879 [Report] >>7664882
>>7664877
Every time I get close to getting useful advice, people immediately come in shitting up the threads, trolling and demoralizing me. Which is exactly what happened here, again.
Anonymous No.7664880 [Report] >>7664881
>>7664878
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO TELL HIM
FUCK YOU
YOU RUINED THE JOKE
Anonymous No.7664881 [Report] >>7664885
>>7664878
>>7664880
>proving my point immediately.
Anonymous No.7664882 [Report] >>7664887
>>7664879
>close to getting useful advice
What does that look like?
Anonymous No.7664883 [Report] >>7664887
>>7664875
>I literally answered, yes. You guys are the problem
I didn't ask you if "we" are the problem, I asked you if you think it is possible that you are to blame for your inability, yes or no. I specifically stated to leave trolls out of the equation.
Anonymous No.7664885 [Report] >>7664888 >>7664894
>>7664881
Fuck off to /beg/. Single people don't deserve their own threads. Especially not a brain damaged retard like you are.
Anonymous No.7664887 [Report] >>7664892 >>7664893
>>7664882
Give me advice that works around the problems that I've stated multiple times affect my ability to draw.
>>7664883
No. I'm not. I've already done all I can to manage my own mental problems.
Anonymous No.7664888 [Report]
>>7664885
>Single people don't deserve their own threads
Not against the rules and you don't make them. Tough shit fag.
Anonymous No.7664892 [Report] >>7664895
>>7664887
No.
Anonymous No.7664893 [Report] >>7664895
>>7664887
>I've already done all I can to manage my own mental problems
Again you aren't answering me. Are you sure you aren't the troll here? I said leave the TROLLS and your MENTAL CONDITION out of it. I'm specifically talking about you, your choices and your decision making. Is there a possibility in your mind that you as a person are to blame? Stop bringing up other things. I'm trying to actually get somewhere with you here but I can't if you just get mad or deflect or jerk me around.
Anonymous No.7664894 [Report]
>>7664885
I'm posting in /beg/ currently and nobody is giving any advice and trolling.
Anonymous No.7664895 [Report] >>7664898
>>7664892
Then get out of my thread if you aren't willing to give advice.
>>7664893
This is a very loaded question that only seems to be used in the purpose of bringing up more trolling and demoralizing me even further. So, I'm not going to answer it and would instead ask you to give me advice on how to draw.
Anonymous No.7664897 [Report]
We're regressing again. Howie will only draw when he gets dopamine starved by no one engaging in endless bickering with him.
Anonymous No.7664898 [Report] >>7664899
>>7664895
>So, I'm not going to answer it
You cannot convince me you aren't trolling. You've all but confirmed that you are trolling. I'm out.
Anonymous No.7664899 [Report]
>>7664898
How is me refusing to engage with your lack of ability to give advice trolling?
Anonymous No.7664906 [Report] >>7664912 >>7664915 >>7665572
>>7664866
Looks good to me home whats the problem?
Anonymous No.7664912 [Report]
>>7664906
I feel like her eyes aren't the same size and aren't good enough looking.
Anonymous No.7664915 [Report] >>7664919 >>7664921 >>7664929 >>7665527 >>7665567
>>7664906
How about this?
Anonymous No.7664919 [Report] >>7665433 >>7665572
>>7664915
Yeah man those eyes look great, I think you gotta move the chin forward and soften it a bit too, will help everything look more correct
Anonymous No.7664921 [Report] >>7665572
>>7664915
try looking at the reference. it will give you every answer, clear as day if you just look at it
Anonymous No.7664929 [Report] >>7665572
>>7664915
you got it, now try to draw the head again beside it in the same way, and see which guide lines you can skip. That's what drawing is, you have to keep drawing over and over and get better each time.
Anonymous No.7665156 [Report]
I get the feeling this painstaking process is going to repeat for every single drawing this guy makes. Closest thing I've seen to moderation here is autistic deletions on the lolifag general.
Anonymous No.7665433 [Report]
>>7664919
How do I move the chin? I'm really struggling with that too.
Anonymous No.7665459 [Report]
>>7663721 (OP)
Why are lolicon either pre/beg/ or Alke tier when it comes to art?
Anonymous No.7665503 [Report]
>>7663721 (OP)
use either Clip Studio Paint or Adobe Photoshop. Those two software are what competent artists use. Don't insist on Fire Alpaca bullcrap.
Anonymous No.7665525 [Report] >>7665531 >>7665536 >>7665567
Okay, so here's what I've got.
Anonymous No.7665527 [Report] >>7665530 >>7665572
>>7664915
Are you using stabilization in your software ?
Anonymous No.7665530 [Report] >>7665536
>>7665527
Yeah, I'm at about 70
Anonymous No.7665531 [Report] >>7665533 >>7665539
>>7665525
How do you even function in day to day life if you're this mentally challenged. You gotta have like room temperature IQ
Anonymous No.7665533 [Report] >>7665554
>>7665531
are you the red tracing crab from yesterday ? ... pyw lel.
Anonymous No.7665536 [Report] >>7665539
>>7665525
>>7665530
This will never not be fucking hilarious. Best thread in the 'log for sure.
Anonymous No.7665538 [Report]
>>7664314
just keep spamming this thread and those pictures will draw themselves. FAGGOT!!!!!
Anonymous No.7665539 [Report] >>7665540 >>7665541 >>7665563 >>7665572
>>7665531
>>7665536
How about give actual advice? I'm legitimately trying the hardest I can here and you're all shitting on me. I'm drawing just like you guys wanted.
Anonymous No.7665540 [Report]
>>7665539
It's just some mental crab he was shitting on begs yesterday and when asked for correction he traced few lines and he posted his shitty sonic drawing. Literally pay no mind to him and keep working lol.
Anonymous No.7665541 [Report] >>7665542
>>7665539
I'm just here to laugh. I'm eagerly awaiting the two misplaced lines you'll add to HatKidWIP7.png after 4 hours of effort. Carry on.
Anonymous No.7665542 [Report] >>7665544
>>7665541
How about give actual advice?
Anonymous No.7665544 [Report] >>7665546
>>7665542
Put those 2 lines in the right place.
Anonymous No.7665546 [Report]
>>7665544
What two lines and where?
Anonymous No.7665554 [Report]
>>7665533
I ain't posting shit in your handicapped thread
Anonymous No.7665561 [Report] >>7665585
With every reply Howie gets he postpones drawing the next line because you activated his dopamine receptors
Anonymous No.7665563 [Report]
>>7665539
ahahaha. Wait you're serious? Let me laugh even harder AAAAHAHAHAHAHAA oh no no no
Anonymous No.7665567 [Report] >>7665572
>>7665525
Hey man, I liked the eyes better before, in this post >>7664915. The chin looks better now, but you should soften it, from a > shape to more of a ) shape. If you look at your ref image her chin is a gentle curve rather than a typical sharp anime "v" So just make a 2nd layer and try smoothing it out and when you're done, erase the old sharp chin and combine the layers. its okay if it looks like a hack job because this is just a sketch layer
Anonymous No.7665572 [Report] >>7665585 >>7665602
>>7665539
You have people helping you:
>>7665567
>>7665527
>>7664929
>>7664921
>>7664919
>>7664906
Quit responding to trolls and focus on the free help people are giving you. Everything you say to a troll is food to them, they're never going to stop coming back to you if you feed them.
Anonymous No.7665585 [Report] >>7665589
>>7665572
See >>7665561
Anonymous No.7665589 [Report]
>>7665585
He won't understand until he finally realizes how much time he's wasted on helping Howie. Let him figure it out on his own. It's the natural /ic/ cycle for newfags, after all.
Anonymous No.7665602 [Report] >>7665724 >>7665861 >>7665955 >>7667244
>>7665572
anon its a sharteen trollop. you should draw instead of bumping this dogshit thread made by an insufferable faggot!
Anonymous No.7665718 [Report]
Anonymous No.7665724 [Report]
>>7665602
Exposed
Anonymous No.7665751 [Report] >>7665758
I'm having trouble with her hands and fingers.
Anonymous No.7665758 [Report]
>>7665751
Dude ignoring getting exposed. Kwab
No more advice for you
Anonymous No.7665798 [Report]
howie oo howie
Will always be a beg
Blames his ADHD
But won’t pick up a pen

Here’s advice for everyone other than howie. Warm up with 5 mins of drawing circles, straight lines and s lines. Doesn’t have to be good you’re just waking your brain up.
Then move on and draw gestures, 5 1 minutes, 3 2minutes , 3 3minutes, 2 5minutes. These can be stick figures, doesn’t have to be good. Do this everyday and you’ll be better than howie.

Please never stop being a howie, very entertaining.
Anonymous No.7665861 [Report]
>>7665602
I wonder if this pasta was based on a real person's posts.
Anonymous No.7665955 [Report] >>7665959 >>7665960
>>7665602
If it's true they are doing good job entertaining all /ic/ and them pretending to be retarded is the most hilarious shit ever
Anonymous No.7665959 [Report] >>7665960
>>7665955
And for three years even!
Anonymous No.7665960 [Report] >>7665966 >>7665970
>>7665959
>>7665955
Why do you guys think I'm not someone that genuinely has problems? I've been doing this for 3 years.
Anonymous No.7665963 [Report] >>7665965
>>7664685
x months schizo was the one with BPD who'd rage about having no talent
Anonymous No.7665965 [Report]
>>7664685
>>7665963
i talked to that guy once. he's as crazy as you'd imagine in a personal interaction, i miss him
Anonymous No.7665966 [Report]
>>7665960
You are not worth the advice you've been given. No more advice for you
Anonymous No.7665970 [Report]
>>7665960
You have genuine problems. You are hopeless. Go stare at a wall. You're not allowed to have hobbies.
Anonymous No.7665976 [Report] >>7666090 >>7666092
Here's another update.
Anonymous No.7666090 [Report] >>7666097 >>7666122
>>7665976
3rd time telling you to fix the chin and you ignoring me
Anonymous No.7666092 [Report] >>7666097
>>7665976
This looks like absolute suit anon, its taken you 3 days to do what a child would have done in 3 minutes
Anonymous No.7666097 [Report]
>>7666090
I did fix the chin and moved it foward.
>>7666092
What do you want me to do about it? I can only make myself focus for so long before getting distracted by other things and I keep having to redo lines because of fucking them up so many times.
Anonymous No.7666101 [Report]
Surely the collective effort of the sharty will get it right in HatKidWIP9.png
Anonymous No.7666122 [Report] >>7666181
>>7666090
How's this?
Anonymous No.7666181 [Report] >>7666184 >>7666394
>>7666122
Good, now try giving her outer cheek some form, look at the ref to see what I mean. Right now her head is basically just a circle
Anonymous No.7666184 [Report]
>>7666181
Should I remove the part of the circle that's still part of the cheek?
Anonymous No.7666394 [Report] >>7666458
>>7666181
Like this you mean?
Anonymous No.7666458 [Report] >>7666470
>>7666394
Yes but more subtle, and it should come back out for the forehead just slightly
Anonymous No.7666470 [Report]
>>7666458
How about this?
Anonymous No.7666531 [Report] >>7666603 >>7666651 >>7666774
I honestly think I'm just gonna brute force it and try drawing as much as I can of what I want to. I don't really think any other strategy is gonna work for me.
Anonymous No.7666603 [Report]
>>7666531
Godspeed, Howie. Let spite motivate you
Anonymous No.7666651 [Report]
>>7666531
see you in a week bub
Anonymous No.7666665 [Report]
How many more days until he actually manages to finish this drawing?
Anonymous No.7666774 [Report]
>>7666531
It really took you years to come to that conclusion. Good riddance.
Anonymous No.7666802 [Report]
>>7663813
Drawing on the other side of the brain teaches how to see like an artist. In a nutshell: the brain simplify details for you not get lost in them. Try to copy this same drawing you did but observe the drawing for at least 10 minutes or so. Look at it for a long time and you will start to see the details you didn't the first time. Read the book and do the exercises. It will help you. Good luck Anon :)
Anonymous No.7666858 [Report] >>7666920 >>7666933 >>7666983
Alright last update. Since no one wanted to help me I went to a different website for art advice.
Thanks for nothing you jerks. In a matter of ONE day I improved massively because people were willing to actually HELP just thought I'd come back to show all of you my new powerlevel.
Anonymous No.7666862 [Report]
Looks like absolute shit. You can stay there from now on
Anonymous No.7666920 [Report] >>7667011 >>7667515
>>7666858
This isn't me by the way. Every time I'm close to getting good advice, someone in the thread comes in and pretends to be me to shit up the thread.
Anonymous No.7666933 [Report] >>7666935 >>7666978
>>7666858
What help ?
I mean you should start at least draw a box a and try to hold for a week or two. Then start drawing your own shit or find other tutorials.
Anonymous No.7666935 [Report] >>7666978
>>7666933
by drawabox i mean this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9708PBUvCQ0&list=PLA7yj0dxiUGv7k8ohEt15EtMz9PTckNXw
Anonymous No.7666978 [Report] >>7667386
>>7666933
>>7666935
>drawabox
That's just mean lol
Anonymous No.7666983 [Report]
>>7666858
if only, anon
Anonymous No.7667011 [Report] >>7667016
>>7666920
We know you'd never do things on your own, Howie. Or produce finished work. This isn't like you.
Anonymous No.7667016 [Report]
>>7667011
I don't know what "finishing" it looks like when I'm doing a sketch, I don't know what counts as enough detail or not. I don't know what I'm doing.
Anonymous No.7667017 [Report]
You should draw more.
Anyways, I'm out again. Giving you dopamine from replies is not what you need.
Anonymous No.7667224 [Report]
Now I'm cleaning up the sketch and going to do the line art now.
Anonymous No.7667244 [Report] >>7667247 >>7667267 >>7667284 >>7667516
>already debunked as a sharty troll
>STILL GETTING BUMPED
>>7665602
READ NIGGA READ
Anonymous No.7667247 [Report] >>7667250 >>7667256 >>7667268
>>7667244
No, it's actually someone with real problems that people misconstrue as a troll because they don't want to actually try to understand his problems and help him.
Anonymous No.7667250 [Report]
>>7667247
No point trying to help this tard
Anonymous No.7667256 [Report]
>>7667247
You try and help him.
Oh wait you can't because it is you, Howie, who wrote this, haha.
Anonymous No.7667267 [Report]
>>7667244
Howie is real, he's just severely mentally ill to the point of mania, but hey at least he's drawing
Anonymous No.7667268 [Report]
>>7667247
Samefagging this bad. Kwab
Anonymous No.7667284 [Report]
>>7667244
Sharteens got inspired by howie, they didn't create him. Howie's been at it for 3 years already and every time he types like the same person.
Anonymous No.7667287 [Report]
>>7663721 (OP)
Just draw man
Anonymous No.7667293 [Report] >>7667299
I'm on the lineart process and using the curve tool
Anonymous No.7667296 [Report] >>7667332
Kwab
Anonymous No.7667299 [Report] >>7667332
>>7667293
Howie on his way to become shapes schizo
Anonymous No.7667332 [Report] >>7667335
>>7667299
>>7667296
Any actual advice?
Anonymous No.7667335 [Report] >>7667337
>>7667332
I honestly think you just gonna brute force it and try drawing as much as you can of what you want to. I don't really think any other strategy is gonna work for you.
Anonymous No.7667337 [Report] >>7667345
>>7667335
How do I make myself focus for more than 20 seconds before stopping and doing something else? Even on medicine, I'm like this.
Anonymous No.7667345 [Report] >>7667346
>>7667337
Just don't be like that. Simple as
Anonymous No.7667346 [Report] >>7667347
>>7667345
That's not how any mental problem is solved.
Anonymous No.7667347 [Report]
>>7667346
Too bad. Go to a doctor or therapist to get actual advice then
Anonymous No.7667353 [Report] >>7667357
Yeah... there's no solving this issue without in-person therapy or other meds. Stop coming here and asking this same question to randoms on an art board. It's obviously not working lmao
Anonymous No.7667357 [Report] >>7667361 >>7667364
>>7667353
I've changed my meds multiple times to nothing happening.
Anonymous No.7667361 [Report]
>>7667357
Then you are even more beyond our help. Go to a doctor if you want this potentionally resolved
Anonymous No.7667364 [Report] >>7667366
>>7667357
Well, there's still therapy. Anyway, I sense no one is going to be able to answer your question at any point in the future... try elsewhere.
You know, I get the feeling you've probably been kicked from a handful of other sites cause why the fuck would you expect the ppl here of all places to solve your retarded problem?
Anonymous No.7667366 [Report] >>7667369 >>7667374
>>7667364
I ask you people for the most basic advice and you refuse to give it to me and instead just troll around.
Anonymous No.7667369 [Report]
>>7667366
Yeah... It must be real easy for people to solve your problem when you've been making the same thread for years. Good one. Go elsewhere if the trolls bother you so much. That's my advice.
Anonymous No.7667374 [Report]
>>7667366
You don't need advice. You need to go to therapy or don't. You can remain like that for the rest of your life. It's your call
Anonymous No.7667386 [Report] >>7667467
>>7666978
Nah it have some good beginners advice mark making, learning how to do basic shit. He took so long because he is copying line by line and try to make it as precise as possible and at the end it looks like whatever. Drawabox is cock and balls torture but if you survive at least that week on it can help if you implement what you learned during it into your drawings.
Anonymous No.7667467 [Report] >>7667479 >>7667504
>>7667386
So should I try drawabox instead?
Anonymous No.7667479 [Report]
>>7667467
Yeah
Anonymous No.7667504 [Report] >>7667684
>>7667467
No, it'll just make you never want to draw again
Anonymous No.7667515 [Report] >>7667519 >>7667601
>>7666920
Dude why ate you such an asshole, I have been helping you so have others, I haven't said one negative thing only positive and straight forward. And you never say thank you all you do is complain. I don't think I'm gonna help you anymore. You aren't remotely grateful all you do is focus on trolls.
Anonymous No.7667516 [Report]
>>7667244
Not a troll, these freaks exist, Chris chan, yanderedev, and more originate from 4chan. Sharty is relatively new and mostly obsessed with basedjaks
Anonymous No.7667519 [Report] >>7667571 >>7667601
>>7667515
This. The dude is some spoiled tard who thinks people owe him help while he himself gets to be ungrateful toxic asshole all the time. I don't care about helping him anymore either
Anonymous No.7667571 [Report]
>>7667519
Makes sense since the only people in his life are servant-likes like nurses and parents who help him not starve.
Anonymous No.7667601 [Report] >>7667613 >>7667614
>>7667519
>>7667515
How do I know that this isn't just another troll?
Anonymous No.7667613 [Report] >>7667620
>>7667601
They are right, I was helping you fix the chin and you never said thank you, never said "oh i'm glad people are helping me now". Nope, just demanding help, complaining about how everyone hates you. Here I am taking time out of my day to help you and it goes completely unnoticed, all you do is complain. I also won't be helping you anymore. You are just an unpleasant person
Anonymous No.7667614 [Report]
>>7667601
By not being mentally challenged. Can't you seriously think for yourself at all. And also I'm done giving you advice as I said. Figure it out by yourself or don't
Anonymous No.7667620 [Report] >>7667804
>>7667613
Damn. We reached the same conclusion at pretty much the same time. I agree with you 100%, this guy's behaviour is all around nasty in so many ways.
Anonymous No.7667621 [Report]
The Downfall of Howie...
Anonymous No.7667625 [Report] >>7669139
People got tired of his shit
Anonymous No.7667627 [Report]
The Rise of Howie (in two weeks when enough newfags are here again who don't know him yet)
Anonymous No.7667629 [Report]
>>7664746
*Nu-troll

A troll is someone who successfully baits with the minimum effort possible. A nu-troll is someone who spends just as long and gets just as angry in the the thread as the people they're supposedly baiting.
Anonymous No.7667684 [Report] >>7667845
>>7667504
Always felt like people who hate dab are brainrotted dopamine zombies who can't into discipline and habit
Anonymous No.7667709 [Report]
Noooo anons don’t give up! You are all supposed to spoon-feed him every step! In fact, draw for him instead!!
Anonymous No.7667722 [Report]
No. It's done
Anonymous No.7667804 [Report]
>>7667620
Yep let's get outta here anon
*revs motorcycle
Anonymous No.7667845 [Report] >>7667885 >>7667915
>>7667684
I'm an autist who grinded the 2x bridgman gauntlet and 1,000 Loomis heads, and I don't like DAB, which I did up until the vehicle portion. Not because it's a grindlord program but because it's inefficient and its creator doesn't really draw very well. It's just mishmashed peter han + scoro and neglects things like accuracy and master copies.
Anonymous No.7667846 [Report] >>7667947
>>7663736
>>7663721 (OP)
quick 5 min 23 sec sketch
Anonymous No.7667885 [Report] >>7667906
>>7667845
because it's not supposed to teach accuracy and master copies it's for the /beg/ to gain a sense of intuition for form and markmaking
Anonymous No.7667906 [Report]
>>7667885
the /beg/ is better served by the former, and only needs to understand the latter inasmuch as it serves the former.
Anonymous No.7667915 [Report] >>7669239
>>7667845
>talks about inefficiency
>does 1000 loomis heads and bridgman gauntlet twice probably without doing foundational anatomy
okay crab
Anonymous No.7667947 [Report] >>7668133
>>7667846
How did you do that so fast?
Anonymous No.7668133 [Report] >>7668153
>>7667947
practice

I tackle daily artwork i like, I copy them on different intervals (30 secs- 15 min).
It just becomes a habit and your brain breaks down shapes easier. I could even do it again and record it if you want to see the break down
Anonymous No.7668140 [Report]
>>7663721 (OP)
whoever this is, is probably the most drawing he did in his entire life.
Anonymous No.7668153 [Report] >>7668256
>>7668133
Yeah do it and record it. I wanna see the process so I can learn it.
Anonymous No.7668256 [Report] >>7668418 >>7669348
>>7668153
>>7663721 (OP)

https://files.catbox.moe/7l4ay4.mp4
Anonymous No.7668418 [Report] >>7668650
>>7668256
I can kinda see now how you did it. This has helped thanks.
Anonymous No.7668650 [Report] >>7669443
>>7668418
yeah, start from the angle of the face using a 2 lines like in a crosshair. then move on to the bigger shapes, I choose the hat first then the hair, but sometimes it's easier to start with the body, start big, and fill in the details later on
Anonymous No.7669139 [Report]
>>7667625
and it still hit bump limit. fuck you retards
Anonymous No.7669239 [Report] >>7669242
>>7667915
I did Michael Hampton, took Will Weston's course, and have Stonehouse, Morpho, and Anatomy for Sculptors on my shelf
Anonymous No.7669242 [Report]
>>7669239
trvth nvke
Anonymous No.7669348 [Report] >>7670216
>>7668256
https://youtu.be/TKfS5zVfGBc?feature=shared
Anonymous No.7669443 [Report] >>7670218 >>7670241
>>7668650
Should I start with the circle and then add the shapes from the face?
Anonymous No.7669976 [Report]
Bump
Anonymous No.7670216 [Report]
>>7669348
already did another tutorial with trinity / 009 sound system
Anonymous No.7670218 [Report] >>7670241 >>7670588
>>7669443
I dont really like starting with a circle I find it easier just using 2 lines. Let me show you what I mean. "
"but whatever is easier for you i suppose"
gg/R3NtN4Sbch my drawing No.7670234 [Report]
My drawing
Anonymous No.7670241 [Report] >>7670588
>>7669443
>>7670218

https://files.catbox.moe/4r5ik2.mp4

(i did 2 other heads to show different angles of how i do heads, its similar to freehand sketching)
Anonymous No.7670588 [Report] >>7670937
>>7670241
>>7670218
Thank you. I will try using this technique or just use the circle along with the technique.
Anonymous No.7670937 [Report]
>>7670588
whichever lets you feel out the shape better.
Anonymous No.7672023 [Report] >>7672559 >>7673325
I'm unsure if I should remake this thread soon since it's about to die.
Anonymous No.7672559 [Report]
>>7672023
I don't think you should remake this thread soon
Anonymous No.7673325 [Report]
>>7672023
Don't. Go draw for 6 months before making another thread, if you need advice ask in /sqt/ or /beg/, this doesn't need its own thread.