Thread 7665076

>on the metro today
>bored as fuck but don't wanna waste time doomscrolling on TikTok
>grabs sketchbook and started sketching the people sitting on the opposite seats
>girl next to me saw my sketches
>'eww, what a creep'
>started shouting some shit about privacy and me being a creep for drawing strangers
>it got so awkward and I was stared at the whole trip by basically everyone in the train
How the fuck am I supposed to hone my artistic skills without disturbing others? I only wanna draw good man

Don't invade other people's privacy?

>>7665076 (OP)
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>>7665076 (OP)
post the sketches

>>7665076 (OP)
how do you draw in public anyway? I can barely look at my phone in public

assume that you can't anon.
would you prefer to hone your artistic skills or try to control the people around you.

>>7665076 (OP)
You could have politely shown the people opposite your scribbles, asked if they were okay with them (and assuming you didn't do anything creepy, they should have been), and then asked the lady sitting next to you why she was being so rude and why YOUR privacy didn't matter - make her the centre of attention here.

Of course, we can all imagine how we can handle a social situation that goes wrong, but you can never really predict how people will react; your subjects may object even if the drawings are flattering, or the girl next to you may start screeching even more, but I find it's good to imagine how to handle scenarios like this so that you have something of a game plan in your head should it happen again.

On another note, I hope you're not staring too hard at your subjects, like they're live models or something.

Skill issue. If your art was even remotely decent people would gush and ask if you could draw them, especially women.

Also nice story bro.

>>7665081
It's like kinda ugly so

Don't draw people around you.

Draw your own IP stuff,and ignore the world around you.

Simplest solution.

>>7665076 (OP)
if it makes you feel better i'm a cute girl(real) and i got weird looks when i tried this as well. people just know when you're staring at them, i think it's some kind of caveman instinct

>>7665076 (OP)
My greatest fear. This is why I hardly draw in public.
I suppose hitting the gym and looking like you could murder a man with bare hands would help make people less confrontational, though.

>>7665142
Drawing people in real tie helps with drawing characters, tho.

>>7665110
This. A girl who thought I was a creep loser at work actually came up to me in the lunchroom and had a whole 180 personality change and was up in my face about the art homework for college I was doing. It was quite odd because she treated me like a subhuman.

>>7665205
bullshit, tits or gt-
>filtered cat pic
nvm seems legit

>>7665205
I don't publicly draw myself, but I think taking just a few quick glances and taking inspiration is the way to go, rather than going full 'draw what you see, not what you think you see' mode and staring a hole into the subject.
Most street drawings I see, tend to be fairly stylised, and look as if they didn't look at the person too much.

>>7665076 (OP)
this didn't happen

>>7665076 (OP)
Are we greentexting reddit posts now? The fuck is this shit.

>>7665223
Most probably it didn't, indeed. Most of people won't talk to a stranger without some prompt lest alone start shit.

>>7665229
>Most People
Yeah, most people, but there are plenty of nosy karen types who will.

>>7665223
Tryhard green texts are the epitome of a newfag. I think it’s the same guy ok /ic/ posting too.

>>7665285
What?

I think there's an unsolved question here.
Do you need someone's consent to draw them?
I get it with photos. You obviously should ask them first since it's a direct copy from reality. And they don't know what you're going to to with the photo.
But a drawing? Most times you don't even recognize the person. There are way fewer shady things you can do with a drawing of someone compared to a photograph, so I'd say most people are more relaxed about being drawn.
It might be weird to stare at people as you draw them but if they don't notice, does it really matter?

>>7665315
>Do you need someone's consent to draw them?
Nope, they're in a public place. I used to do it all the time, but I didn't stare at people either, you gotta be sneaky. When they see they usually think its cool and want to have it or take a pic of it, even if it kinda sucks.

You might have an issue if you wanted to take their drawing and use it commercially, put it on your company logo, print it on shirts and mugs, etc. Normally you need a model release form for that kind of stuff and they need payment.

But yeah just a drawing, no problem, if they dont like it they can just go away and not let you draw them.

I mean. I see how drawing people in front of you in the metro could be considered weird. Too personal, too close. I don't condone the chick's behavior, but I get it.
Drawing people from a bit further away in places like restaurants or beaches wouldn't be as "intimate", imo.

>>7665321
Depends on the country probably. I'm sure that it counts as rape in the UK. I have seen a warning poster in the UK that said that staring can unironically can get you charged for sexual molestation.

>>7665076 (OP)
made up or you're just very bad at drawing and seem autistic

>>7665117
Post them regardless

>>7665076 (OP)
you're probably just ugly

>>7665627

he can't because it's entirely made up

>>7665206
It IS an invasion of privacy, like photographing them. They are Right to complain.

>>7665975
>look at somebody
>I've invaded their privacy
I'm a monster!

If you draw people around you, make sure you don't draw the details of their face. Their poses are fair game. If you're drawing anime girl asses based on the people around you, then you have a problem.

I genuinely have no idea if I'm being stared at because most of the fucks around me keep asking me to draw them.
>Oh you're an artist, anon? Can you draw me???
So I *have* to wonder what the fuck you're doing.

>>7666071
Look at the news,and imagine being the unfortunate woman being constantly stared at by someone trying to capture her image. However innocent your motives,a modern woman has to imagine dire consequences from so many headline making situations, justifiable paranoia.

But...here's a crazy thought:

Try Asking Permission first. An excuse to interact with your sexual target markets,show them your work as an opener,ask if they would consent to your humble attempt to make them immortal,and chat them up as you sketch them. Be businesslike,and realize that what you are putting on paper is a thousand times more important than any orifice they might possess,and focus on getting it right.

>>7665321
>>7665340
as the other anon said, the country and its culture is a big factor.
For instance, I'm always culture-shocked when I see American Youtubers create Videos out in public. Everyone's just fine with being filmed.
Here in my home country in Central Europe, you can get into real trouble if you record people without their explicit consent. Personal rights and such.
I think that's transferable to drawing because as with recording a video, someone's likeness is being used in a medium. Whether people are cool with it depends on their cultural views on privacy.

>>7666769
>being constantly stared at by someone trying to capture her image.
While I agree with you, but that's only if you're doing the above. What if you take a couple of quick glances, and that's all?
I think scribbling the memory or vague image of someone in the same room as you is hardly a big deal.

Sure I can ask for permission, but why do that for just some idle scribbling?
Also, all of this is predicated on the idea that they're a woman, do men not care about their privacy?
Now if you want to draw the figure more intently (and therefore stare a lot at the subject), or upload it to social media, then I think you absolutely should ask for permission, but otherwise it's no different than writing about someone in your journal.

I look like an angry autistic caveman amd most people ignore me. Must be a you thing, OP.

>>7665076 (OP)
>Women

>>7666769
>*shifts on his seat* exc-sorry, sorry, not you ma'am, I was talking to the other- EXCUSE ME! uhh I'm sorry *leaves seat*
>*huff* please let through, EXCUSE ME
>HELLO
>...
>Hello I am an artist. Sketchbook here. I wanted to a- I NEED to ask if you would CONSENT to me drawing your body- I mean, your person! Yes, on my sketchbook. You are an interesting girl so I need your consent to do things with you. I will make a personal use of the drawings don't worry!
>OH. MY GOD *sprays your face with XXL sized can of bear mace*
>Cops arrive
>OFFICER THIS MAN RAPED ME
>they taser you with an XXL sized bear taser
>you serve 9999 years for SEXUAL ASSAULT and get assigned the gayest black man as your cellmate and he rapes you with his XXL sized BBC every day while the jail psychiatrist injects both your eyeballs with an XXL dose of troon serum until they explode

>>7667378
Odd fetishes, but okay man.

>still no sketch posted
OP full of imaginary stories in his head again. Many such cases.

"Just use real life reference bro!"

>>7667813
this is just what imageboards are. one big larp

>>7667378
This made me laugh so hard

>>7667378
I hate when that happens.

post work or didnt happen schizo fag

>>7666769
>Try Asking Permission first.
Why did you capitalize this? You spaghetti brain retard.

>>7665076 (OP)
>draw at home
>solve

>>7665076 (OP)
>girl next to you was able to recognize what you were drawing
success

draw a comic representing this situation. make her seem like the villain though, but not too much!

>>7665315
how woudl you need that, theyre in a train or metro, theres cameras everywhere already. he shouldve just said, look up bitch, youre already being filmed all the time, yet you complain now? dumb ass whore, get a brain. then watch her wet the floor with due to your sigma spirit

anon. i will be honest with you. im shy and introvert. if someone isnt taking photos of my face and doing creepy shots idgaf about taking photos of my form or drawing me. if the drawing is only for education purpose then go on. but ALSO i think its better if you watch videos other people shoot and draw based on it. This or go to a botanical park or open park and draw the animals/plants in there. its easier imo.

>>7665205
Do you mastur ate to our post? I am a verg lonely man.

>>7665076 (OP)
It's just a drawing man the fuck up people
good for you phones are shit